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NFT: Craig Carton Found Guilty On All Counts

Danny Kanell : 11/7/2018 3:03 pm
Just coming across the wire now, no link.

Craigy is going away for a very long time.
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arcarsenal : 11/7/2018 3:04 pm : link
That's too bad...
He should have taken the plea deal  
bigbb : 11/7/2018 3:05 pm : link
You aren't beating the government
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Danny Kanell : 11/7/2018 3:07 pm : link
Sounds like he's facing a maximum of 45 years.
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Danny Kanell : 11/7/2018 3:09 pm : link
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I guess this means he’ll finally have to follow through on his promise  
mfsd : 11/7/2018 3:09 pm : link
to resign if the Giants won Super Bowl 46
That's a  
RottenApple : 11/7/2018 3:10 pm : link
shame.
I guess  
bluepepper : 11/7/2018 3:13 pm : link
the "he never meant to hurt anyone" closing argument from his lawyer didn't sway the jury. I mean if that's all you got you need to do like bigbb said and take the plea.
if you believe you are innocent  
jestersdead : 11/7/2018 3:16 pm : link
wouldn't you take the stand and defend yourself? A guy who talks for a living couldn't go on the stand and defend/lie about his actions
I'm not a lawyer  
Chris684 : 11/7/2018 3:16 pm : link
so I'm not sure what the likelihood he actually gets 45 years is but it sure sounds like he's going away for a pretty long time even if he gets a little bit of a break.

Bummer.
While I feel bad for his wife and kids  
Jay on the Island : 11/7/2018 3:19 pm : link
I am glad that this piece of garbage got what he deserved.
So the jury started at 10,  
MOOPS : 11/7/2018 3:21 pm : link
hung around for lunch and dropped the hammer by 3.
Adios Craig.
Francesa should broadcast live from his app  
Bobby Humphrey's Earpad : 11/7/2018 3:23 pm : link
as Carton goes to prison. I'd pay the 9.99 for that.
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Danny Kanell : 11/7/2018 3:26 pm : link
A sad bit of collateral damage here is not just his wife a kids. I hope this doesn't derail Michelle Serpico's career...

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RE: I'm not a lawyer  
Mad Mike : 11/7/2018 3:27 pm : link
In comment 14168172 Chris684 said:
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so I'm not sure what the likelihood he actually gets 45 years is but it sure sounds like he's going away for a pretty long time even if he gets a little bit of a break.

Bummer.

The likelihood of the max is zero point zero.
I'm surprised that Carton didn't take the stand  
Jay on the Island : 11/7/2018 3:28 pm : link
Not to defend himself but to take one last shot at Francesa before he goes to jail.
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Danny Kanell : 11/7/2018 3:29 pm : link
What was the time offered in the plea deal? I could see him getting double that.
The feds don’t mess around..  
Sean : 11/7/2018 3:30 pm : link
Amazing Carton didn’t take the plea.
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Banks : 11/7/2018 3:34 pm : link
In comment 14168186 Danny Kanell said:
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What was the time offered in the plea deal? I could see him getting double that.

thought it was 5 years
My lawyer buddy thinks he'll wind up getting sentenced to 10 years  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/7/2018 3:35 pm : link
and will serve 3 to 4 if he behaves.
RE: My lawyer buddy thinks he'll wind up getting sentenced to 10 years  
Jay on the Island : 11/7/2018 3:35 pm : link
In comment 14168194 Mike in Long Beach said:
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and will serve 3 to 4 if he behaves.

That sounds about right.
RE: My lawyer buddy thinks he'll wind up getting sentenced to 10 years  
Danny Kanell : 11/7/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14168194 Mike in Long Beach said:
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and will serve 3 to 4 if he behaves.


Interesting. That would definitely be less than I initially thought.
Sad story for his family  
arniefez : 11/7/2018 3:44 pm : link
guy who has won the no talent lotto and blew it. I don't wish incarceration on anyone but I'm thrilled he's off the radio. It gives me another option to listen to in am. I enjoy Gio even if it means having to listen to his bitter jealous partner too.
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26.2 : 11/7/2018 3:47 pm : link
What was the plea deal offer? Or was that not reported?
RE: RE: My lawyer buddy thinks he'll wind up getting sentenced to 10 years  
Mike in Long Beach : 11/7/2018 3:48 pm : link
In comment 14168197 Danny Kanell said:
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and will serve 3 to 4 if he behaves.



Interesting. That would definitely be less than I initially thought.


He thinks there are a lot of reasons he won't be locked up with the key thrown away. For starters, the defense is going to ask for leniency due to Carton's addiction to gambling and that given the proper treatment, he can be a productive part of society. If it went this way, a condition of his early release will be he never step foot in a casino again. Since this is his first time doing anything like that, it's a defense that might play well.

For context, Madoff got 150 years for defrauding investors out of 36 billion dollars. Carton defrauded investors out of 5.6 million. That's 0.015% of Madoff's scheme. So while the sentence won't be 0.015% of Madoff's of course, it's fair to assume he won't get the book thrown at him, too.
Craggy better not get assigned to the laundry  
gtt350 : 11/7/2018 3:50 pm : link
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Ya' just hate to see that happen.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/7/2018 3:51 pm : link
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I really dont want my tax dollars paying to  
EricJ : 11/7/2018 3:52 pm : link
incarcerate this guy for decades because he was a horrible sports better and forged his name on a check.
RE: While I feel bad for his wife and kids  
Tesla : 11/7/2018 3:53 pm : link
In comment 14168174 Jay on the Island said:
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I am glad that this piece of garbage got what he deserved.


I feel terrible for his kids but his wife surely knew what a piece of shit human being he was when she decided to marry him. I have very little sympathy for her.
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jcn56 : 11/7/2018 3:58 pm : link
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incarcerate this guy for decades because he was a horrible sports better and forged his name on a check.


Well, he stole a bunch of money, if that makes you feel any better. This wasn't exactly a victimless crime.
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Jay on the Island : 11/7/2018 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14168215 Tesla said:
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I am glad that this piece of garbage got what he deserved.



I feel terrible for his kids but his wife surely knew what a piece of shit human being he was when she decided to marry him. I have very little sympathy for her.

Some people are very good at hiding things from their spouse. If she did know then I have no sympathy for her.
RE: RE: My lawyer buddy thinks he'll wind up getting sentenced to 10 years  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/7/2018 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14168195 Jay on the Island said:
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and will serve 3 to 4 if he behaves.


That sounds about right.


The maximum time off for good behavior for a federal sentence is 54 days per year. So on a ten year sentence he’d serve over 8 years.

Your friend might be thinking of a state sentence.


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10 - 12 year sentence; serving 3 - 5 years with a lengthy probation  
NBGblue : 11/7/2018 4:20 pm : link
sounds about right. The charges were wire fraud and securities fraud and conspiracy for same. The amount at issue was substantial (millions), but it was a non-violent crime and he'll likely claim his acts were caused by a gambling addiction. He'll have a sentencing hearing, and whether he shows contrition and admits his wrongdoing may figure into what his sentence is. His behaviour in jail will be a big factor in how long before he's paroled. Financially he's ruined and if this doesn't end his radio career I don't know what will.

I'd guess that the next time he speaks into a mike it will be to ask "you want fries with that?"

"We're not going to white collar resort prison...  
NyquistX3 : 11/7/2018 4:21 pm : link
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i wonder if his cellmates  
UESBLUE : 11/7/2018 4:27 pm : link
will find the old man shtick funny
RE: I really dont want my tax dollars paying to  
UConn4523 : 11/7/2018 4:38 pm : link
In comment 14168214 EricJ said:
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incarcerate this guy for decades because he was a horrible sports better and forged his name on a check.


IF it won’t be wasted on him it will be someone else. I care more about this type of crime than weed peddlers. He scammed people out of heir money, fuck him.
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Mr. Bungle : 11/7/2018 4:41 pm : link
In comment 14168214 EricJ said:
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incarcerate this guy for decades because he was a horrible sports better and forged his name on a check.

First of all, you left out the "steal money from people" thing.

Second of all, what's your proposed alternative?

Odd post.
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Tesla : 11/7/2018 4:52 pm : link
In comment 14168222 Jay on the Island said:
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I am glad that this piece of garbage got what he deserved.



I feel terrible for his kids but his wife surely knew what a piece of shit human being he was when she decided to marry him. I have very little sympathy for her.


Some people are very good at hiding things from their spouse. If she did know then I have no sympathy for her.


I doubt she knew of the fraud, but she certainly knew he was an enormous asshole. So it shouldn't come as too mhm of a shock that a horrible human being would resort to stealing money from people.
He deserves punishment  
joeinpa : 11/7/2018 4:54 pm : link
For what he did. But we re talking about Man s life here.

I hope 3 to 4 years and he finds a way to pick up the pieces
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Dave in Hoboken : 11/7/2018 4:57 pm : link
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For what he did. But we re talking about Man s life here.

I hope 3 to 4 years and he finds a way to pick up the pieces


And he ruined many people's lives by stealing their money.

People are legitimately nuts.
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UConn4523 : 11/7/2018 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14168265 joeinpa said:
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For what he did. But we re talking about Man s life here.

I hope 3 to 4 years and he finds a way to pick up the pieces


And what message does that send to everyone else? Seems to me that if the precedent is 3 years its a risk that I should look into...
Federal inmates  
ciggy : 11/7/2018 5:02 pm : link
Will serve roughly 85% of any sentence imposed by the judge.

The 45 year number is not real, that is the max allowed by statutes. Zero chance of that.

The actual sentence will be determined by federal sentencing guidelines. Too complicated to compute here. Educated guess would be 3-5 years depending upon certain factors.

But proof of a serious gambling condition can be used in the discretion of the court to reduce any sentence. Depends on the proofs and that particular judge.
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B in ALB : 11/7/2018 5:09 pm : link
In comment 14168214 EricJ said:
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incarcerate this guy for decades because he was a horrible sports better and forged his name on a check.


Exactly how much of YOUR tax dollars are going to be allocated for Cartons prison stay? A penny? Less?
RE: He deserves punishment  
B in ALB : 11/7/2018 5:11 pm : link
In comment 14168265 joeinpa said:
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For what he did. But we re talking about Man s life here.

I hope 3 to 4 years and he finds a way to pick up the pieces


How about the people who he robbed? What do they get? Nothing.

Some of you guys are wacky.
RE: 10 - 12 year sentence; serving 3 - 5 years with a lengthy probation  
sb from NYT Forum : 11/7/2018 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14168232 NBGblue said:
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sounds about right.


There’s no parole in federal prison. If he gets 10-12 years he’s looking at 8-10 years best case scenario.

I wouldn’t be so quick to assume the judge gives a light sentence. He’s shown no remorse and he caused a significant amount of loss to victims. Also, practically every white collar defendant claims he’s an addict of some sort if only to get in less shitty prison.
Unless he was convicted of far lesser crimes than what Meli  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/7/2018 6:08 pm : link
was charged with, I can't imagine he is going to get less than the cooperating co-conspirator (6.5 years, I believe).
Early termination of his sentence  
WideRight : 11/7/2018 6:11 pm : link
Also depends on whether the criminal is considered "rehabilitated".

With this jerk, that is a total wild card. Pre-prison, he would never consider himself culpable for anything. It would be great if prison changes him, he loses his dickhead personality and gets out of prison early.....
RE: if you believe you are innocent  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/7/2018 6:37 pm : link
In comment 14168171 jestersdead said:
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wouldn't you take the stand and defend yourself? A guy who talks for a living couldn't go on the stand and defend/lie about his actions


Keep in mind that this isn't the court of public opinion. It is often a better strategy to not have the accused take the stand to defend himself.

When a defendant testifies, it can have a pronounced effect upon the jury where they are expecting the defendant to prove his innocence, which is unfair to the accused. A defendant doesn't have to prove his innocence. Rather, the burden is always on the state to prove that the defendant is guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

Also, by testifying, a defendant opens himself up to cross-examination which is unpredictable and can give the state a chance to score a few points and add to its case.
You know B  
joeinpa : 11/7/2018 6:46 pm : link
You and I have different philosophies about things. Me I m open to hearing other points of view. I get what you say about the people he robbed. I also think 3 or 4 years out of a life, in prison is pretty significant.

I would like to see him rehabilitate and maybe as a well known ex-con make a difference and help others.

I understand the pain he has caused, my oldest son lost $500,000, to a scam artist. I hate that guy, but I don't want him to spend the rest of his life in prison. That s me.

You, seems to me, at least here on this board, your go to move on dissenting opinion, is to name call and degrade.

To be honest not really interested in what you believe about me or my opinions.

While I actually learn things about football from some of your posts. I find your name calling extremely boorish and childish.
RE: He should have taken the plea deal  
Matt M. : 11/7/2018 8:09 pm : link
In comment 14168157 bigbb said:
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You aren't beating the government
Generally speaking, the federal prosecutors don't bring cases like this to trial unless they are fairly certain they will win. They have something like an 80%+ conviction rate.
I'm somehwat torn on the comments of feeling for his wife and kids  
Matt M. : 11/7/2018 8:16 pm : link
She may or may not have known about this. But, she had to know about at least some of his issues and she had to know what a douche he is. Plus, she and her kids benefitted from all his illegal and illicit activities.
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