NFT: Goodfellas question

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I always thought Jimmy was setting her up to be killed.

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be ambiguous. It looks like the guys in the building are just doing work of some type, and their reaction to seeing her in the doorway is one of,"who is this woman and why is she standing there?". They just kind of stop and stare at her.

So you could take it both ways, either Jimmy's desire to clean up loose ends/intimidate Henry, or, Karen's growing paranoia.

Henry talks about how the people who are going to kill you come with smiles. That, to me, implied that Jimmy was going to have her wacked.

Karen said she was just a little spooked by the whole thing but didn't think much of it.

In comment 14168605 holmancomedown said:

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Karen said she was just a little spooked by the whole thing but didn't think much of it.

Great point. I read the book over 20 years ago and couldn't recall that part.

...he couldn't have believed she would walk right in there. I felt like he was judging her response.

Of course, I may have over thought it.

Here's an error nobody could notice - truck hijack scene is an actual old Beacon Fast Freight truck. Error is that the logo on the box wasn't used by Beacon until about 1980.

My Dad drove for them.

Jimmy looks backwards to see if anybody else is around....

Made sense to kill her, weakest link in the chain

more to show her fear and paranoia than his ill intentions...

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she was rumored to be having an affair with Paul while Henry was in prison

easy. my feeling was that to Jimmy if she was spooked she had a reason to be and thats the confirmation he needed to make a move on his friend.

In comment 14168626 Beer Man said:

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she was rumored to be having an affair with Paul while Henry was in prison

Pretty sure that’s been accepted as fact. Any one of several sites telling the true story talks about that.

I’ve always found it interesting that rumor has it John Gotti and his crew were the ones who whacked Tommy in the infamous scene where he thought he was going to be made.

Now, I’m pretty sure that rumor comes from Henry Hill, so who really knows, but apparently Gotti and Billy Batts were friends, thus Gotti and his crew being the ones to take revenge

the scene was shot in a way to be ambiguous. She’s obviously scared but it didn’t seem like the workers in the warehouse were waiting to kill her.

but Jimmy says he has the dresses in a store, and when you see the "store," it's not a store at all, but a ramshackle abandoned looking place.

The two guys are not expecting her at all. They see her in her leather skirt and jacket and perk up.

My thought was always that Jimmy didn't have anything planned there. He was being watched closely by the feds so he needed separation from anything that might happen to Karen or Henry. Perhaps he knew the guys down there were scumbags and would do Karen some level of harm, in a sense sending his message without him having worked to send it.

Yeah yeah, just ... go in there Karen. Then he'd walk away and the guys in there would ... whatever.

was still out on the street. Just Karen's paranoia.

In comment 14168740 MOOPS said:

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was still out on the street. Just Karen's paranoia.

I agree

In comment 14168594 MBavaro said:

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be ambiguous. It looks like the guys in the building are just doing work of some type, and their reaction to seeing her in the doorway is one of,"who is this woman and why is she standing there?". They just kind of stop and stare at her. So you could take it both ways, either Jimmy's desire to clean up loose ends/intimidate Henry, or, Karen's growing paranoia.

Completely agree! The viewer is not meant to know for sure.

But Jimmy's reaction, the way he keeps standing there staring down the street, clearly is meant to give you the impression that she had good reason to be afraid, IMO

Now go home and get your fuking shinebox!!!!

Only because it was such a piss poor attempt and they never tried again?

If they wanted Karen dead I’d think jimmy would have come up with something a little less transparent and he would not have quit after one attempt. But who knows...

Now I have to turn my back on ya...

He would have whacked Karen.

and Plankton's wife, Karens get yelled-at a lot on tv.

Nat without ya keys ya nat!"

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In comment 14169239 EricJ said:

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Yeah .... me to. But, I think it is one of those questions that only Scorsese knows the answer to. Kind of like the ending of the Sopranos ... was Tony hit or not?

It is one of those water cooler topics ... that will be (could be) argued forever.

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And this guy's saying "Whaddya want from me? "

Ya got a little outta order yourself...