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Jamon Brown = starter?

Mike in St. Louis : 11/8/2018 11:45 am
according to Dan Duggan on Twitter -

"Coach Pat Shurmur said the Giants are preparing new RG Jamon Brown as a starter."

Brown started all 16 games for the Rams last season but lost his job this year to Austin Blythe and was cut last week only to be claimed by the Giants. (Multiple teams put in a claim.) Brown is a mauler at 6'4/340 who prefers to run block. If he starts, Brown will replace veteran RG John Greco.

Source: Dan Duggan on Twitter

Nov 8 - 11:28 AM
Put him in there  
JonC : 11/8/2018 11:48 am : link
If this team needs anything right now, it's to find a way to get a run game going.
How cool would it be, if this young guy  
Big Blue '56 : 11/8/2018 11:49 am : link
actually got it and he was our future moving forward? It’s a rhetorical question
He can’t possibly  
mattyblue : 11/8/2018 11:50 am : link
be any worse can he?
The final piece  
bradshaw44 : 11/8/2018 11:53 am : link
to start the most improbable super bowl run in the history of the NFL. Get ready.
RE: How cool would it be, if this young guy  
ZogZerg : 11/8/2018 12:01 pm : link
In comment 14168933 Big Blue '56 said:
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actually got it and he was our future moving forward? It’s a rhetorical question


Yeah, if he works out then we only need to find a LT, RT, and Center in the draft/FA....
RE: The final piece  
kelsto811 : 11/8/2018 12:02 pm : link
In comment 14168942 bradshaw44 said:
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to start the most improbable super bowl run in the history of the NFL. Get ready.


Make your bets!
I can't focus on anything  
HoodieGelo : 11/8/2018 12:03 pm : link
other than the fact his name is Ham in Spanish
I would love for something to go the Giants way  
gmen9892 : 11/8/2018 12:04 pm : link
This season. Please let this be it. Give me something!
I have a good feeling about Jamon Brown  
Jay on the Island : 11/8/2018 12:05 pm : link
I think the Giants got lucky here and he will be our RG moving forward. Now the Giants just need to address C and RT. I would like to see Evan Brown get a shot to start at some point. The Giants clearly saw something they like with him as they have cut several other players but have hung onto him. If he flashes then they could sign a cheaper veteran to compete with him, Nick Easton, and focus on a top RT in free agency like Donovan Smith. Then they can draft a LT in round 2 to groom behind Solder for a year.
Sad state of affairs  
Mike from Ohio : 11/8/2018 12:23 pm : link
that this guy gets cut by one team, and not only jumps in as a backup immediately with the Giants, but immediately becomes a starter.

I hope the guy can lock down a position on the right side and be a contributor for a long time, but it really shows has poor our existing talent is.
The guy was a starter on the Rams  
UberAlias : 11/8/2018 12:28 pm : link
Not like he’s off the scrap heap.
At this point I'm all for the silly idea  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/8/2018 12:29 pm : link
Put in five super heavy weight sumo wrestlers and let them do their thing. I've just about had it with Saquon Barkley getting stopped on almost every run behind the line and anything positive all on Barkley.

I remember when Tiki was the starting back and the arguments this place had whether his yardage was all on him or not. I think we can all safely say Barkley is doing it alone. I'm sick of the lack of a running game
I like accuracy in tweets and Duggan's tweet does not tell  
That’s Gold, Jerry : 11/8/2018 12:30 pm : link
the real story. Brown got hurt and that is how he lost his starting job. When he came back, Blythe (the guy who replaced him) was playing well and the Rams did not want to make a change. Because they had several other good backups, the Rams cut Brown because he was a pending free agent and because of the trade to get Fowler, they needed cap room.
It really cant get worse...  
Jim Bur(n)t : 11/8/2018 12:35 pm : link
Right? ;) . Put him in!!!!
RE: How cool would it be, if this young guy  
Dinger : 11/8/2018 12:39 pm : link
In comment 14168933 Big Blue '56 said:
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actually got it and he was our future moving forward? It’s a rhetorical question


it would be fantastic. I dont mean to be a debbie downer, but i dont think he will and i feel like its the players as much or equal to the scheme and the coaching...
RE: Sad state of affairs  
Deejboy : 11/8/2018 12:44 pm : link
In comment 14169005 Mike from Ohio said:
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that this guy gets cut by one team, and not only jumps in as a backup immediately with the Giants, but immediately becomes a starter.

I hope the guy can lock down a position on the right side and be a contributor for a long time, but it really shows has poor our existing talent is.

He was hurt and lost his job. He didn't lose his job cause of his play. A number of teams would have loved to have him. One sad advantage of being 1-7 and first in the waiver wire.
RE: RE: Sad state of affairs  
USAF NYG Fan : 11/8/2018 12:49 pm : link
In comment 14169028 Deejboy said:
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that this guy gets cut by one team, and not only jumps in as a backup immediately with the Giants, but immediately becomes a starter.

I hope the guy can lock down a position on the right side and be a contributor for a long time, but it really shows has poor our existing talent is.


He was hurt and lost his job. He didn't lose his job cause of his play. A number of teams would have loved to have him. One sad advantage of being 1-7 and first in the waiver wire.

A couple of you have said he lost his starting job due to injury. I thought it was the 2 game suspension? I haven't read anything about an injury. Did I miss it?

Per wikipedia (albeit not the most reliable), "On July 3, 2018, Brown was suspended the first two games of the 2018 season for violating the NFL Policy and Program for Substances of Abuse.[5] In his absence, Austin Blythe took over Brown's previous starting role at right guard, and kept the job upon Brown's return from suspension.[6] On October 30, 2018, Brown was waived by the Rams.[7]"
Not hurt. I should have said he was suspended...  
Deejboy : 11/8/2018 12:49 pm : link
For two games and somehow his backup Austin Blythe, a 7th round pick, magically turned into Zack Martin and is PFF's 2nd ranked OG. No one saw that coming. Especially the Rams.
RE: I can't focus on anything  
cokeduplt : 11/8/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 14168966 HoodieGelo said:
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other than the fact his name is Ham in Spanish


Sounds like a hogmollie to me .....
RE: Not hurt. I should have said he was suspended...  
USAF NYG Fan : 11/8/2018 1:02 pm : link
In comment 14169032 Deejboy said:
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For two games and somehow his backup Austin Blythe, a 7th round pick, magically turned into Zack Martin and is PFF's 2nd ranked OG. No one saw that coming. Especially the Rams.


Strangely enough, I'm more encouraged that it was a 2 game suspension than an injury. Problems with injury has been an issue with our OL.

I think this is a great pickup. I'm hoping they try to at least focus on good to great run blocking OL over pass blockers. Of course, getting someone that does both well would be nice but if they have to choose, run blockers please.
If Jamon starts, then I would like to see  
Diver_Down : 11/8/2018 1:17 pm : link
Greco moved back to center. Spencer sucks. Greco sucks - just less than Spencer. At some point in the season, Evan should see some snaps.
I'm far more invested in this guy  
Section331 : 11/8/2018 1:26 pm : link
than anyone should be for a waiver wire pick up, but I think he could be exactly what we need. Big, strong, with surprisingly quick feet for a guy his size. I'm excited to see what Jamon can do.
RE: If Jamon starts, then I would like to see  
Jay on the Island : 11/8/2018 1:30 pm : link
In comment 14169070 Diver_Down said:
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Greco moved back to center. Spencer sucks. Greco sucks - just less than Spencer. At some point in the season, Evan should see some snaps.

Greco should be moved back to center for a few games. Then Evan Brown should get a shot over the final few games. If it were up to me I would just cut Pulley now and bring in someone else because Pulley is a below average backup.
RE: I can't focus on anything  
jintsjunkie : 11/8/2018 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14168966 HoodieGelo said:
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other than the fact his name is Ham in Spanish


Ham in Spanish is Jambon, not Jamon.
RE: RE: If Jamon starts, then I would like to see  
kelsto811 : 11/8/2018 1:37 pm : link
In comment 14169084 Jay on the Island said:
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Greco moved back to center. Spencer sucks. Greco sucks - just less than Spencer. At some point in the season, Evan should see some snaps.


Greco should be moved back to center for a few games. Then Evan Brown should get a shot over the final few games. If it were up to me I would just cut Pulley now and bring in someone else because Pulley is a below average backup.


Pat just said in his press conference that if Brown is starting, then "we'll probably stay with pulley at center"
RE: RE: RE: If Jamon starts, then I would like to see  
Diver_Down : 11/8/2018 1:40 pm : link
In comment 14169091 kelsto811 said:
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Greco moved back to center. Spencer sucks. Greco sucks - just less than Spencer. At some point in the season, Evan should see some snaps.


Greco should be moved back to center for a few games. Then Evan Brown should get a shot over the final few games. If it were up to me I would just cut Pulley now and bring in someone else because Pulley is a below average backup.



Pat just said in his press conference that if Brown is starting, then "we'll probably stay with pulley at center"


Hopefully, Evan is up to the task because the bar is set low with Spencer. What a shitshow the OL has been.
RE: RE: RE: If Jamon starts, then I would like to see  
GIANTS128 : 11/8/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14169091 kelsto811 said:
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Greco moved back to center. Spencer sucks. Greco sucks - just less than Spencer. At some point in the season, Evan should see some snaps.


Greco should be moved back to center for a few games. Then Evan Brown should get a shot over the final few games. If it were up to me I would just cut Pulley now and bring in someone else because Pulley is a below average backup.



Pat just said in his press conference that if Brown is starting, then "we'll probably stay with pulley at center"


Pulley has looked real bad. Greco has look slightly less bad....but Pulley is getting pushed back into Eli on almost every snap. Greco wasnt all that great but I believe he sucked less....sad when that the criteria you have use...
no doubt he will suck on the Giants  
I Love Clams Casino : 11/8/2018 1:45 pm : link
no doubt at all.....wish I was kidding
RE: I can't focus on anything  
section125 : 11/8/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 14168966 HoodieGelo said:
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other than the fact his name is Ham in Spanish


I love jamon and queso.
RE: RE: I can't focus on anything  
Giantophile : 11/8/2018 1:53 pm : link
In comment 14169090 jintsjunkie said:
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other than the fact his name is Ham in Spanish



Ham in Spanish is Jambon, not Jamon.


Jamon is cured ham in Spanish. Don't be like that man.
2 Game Suspension  
GeorgeAdams33 : 11/8/2018 1:58 pm : link
Cops found some weed in his car.
2 Game Suspension  
GeorgeAdams33 : 11/8/2018 1:58 pm : link
Cops found some weed in his car
what is Brown's....  
BillKo : 11/8/2018 1:59 pm : link
...contract status?

With our recent luck, the guy will play great but is ready to go free agency........
RE: what is Brown's....  
Diver_Down : 11/8/2018 2:03 pm : link
In comment 14169141 BillKo said:
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...contract status?

With our recent luck, the guy will play great but is ready to go free agency........


He is only under contract for this year. He'll be a FA. Nothing stopping him from finding greener pasture, but nothing is guaranteed in this league. He has a perfect opportunity to earn a starting job and locking it down. The bar isn't set high here. All he has to do is suck less than the trash that has played before.
Jamon Brown's contract. - ( New Window )
RE: The guy was a starter on the Rams  
BillKo : 11/8/2018 2:26 pm : link
In comment 14169007 UberAlias said:
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Not like he’s off the scrap heap.


Exactly...he was part of a very dynamic offense last year, starting every game at guard.

Then...he gets in some trouble, suspended....and loses his job. Gets cut w/ due to a numbers game at the trade deadline.

We benefit by being the first to claim...other teams wanted him.

Most likely, he'll be an immediate upgrade.
RE: RE: RE: I can't focus on anything  
.McL. : 11/8/2018 3:31 pm : link
In comment 14169120 Giantophile said:
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other than the fact his name is Ham in Spanish



Ham in Spanish is Jambon, not Jamon.



Jamon is cured ham in Spanish. Don't be like that man.


jamon is ham in spanish
jambon is not a spanish word
however, jambon is french for ham
for anybody interest ham in chinese is houtui like hoh-twee
I speak french and chinese... ;)
Tossing darts  
longlive#10 : 11/8/2018 3:40 pm : link
And hoping to hit something at this point.

Sad, but at least they're trying. Under a previous regime we'd maintain and assure ourselves "they will get it figured out, just need time".
Brown  
AcidTest : 11/8/2018 3:49 pm : link
is in an ideal situation. If he plays well, there is a good chance DG will overpay to retain him out of desperation. See Solder, Nate.

As for Monday, I expect a lot of problems due to a lack of chemistry. The final judgment on Brown waits until the end of the season. I'd also like to see E. Brown at center the last few games, but him and Kamrin Moore are permanently tied to the bench.
Unfortunately, probably wishful thinking that he'll contribute this  
Giantfan in skinland : 11/8/2018 3:56 pm : link
year.

I mean, it takes time for these guys to learn a new scheme. Especially in our offense. Most OL cannot hit the ground as quickly or naturally as the guys that have been practicing in this offense. His first instinct is likely to be to at least get in the way of the guy in front of him a bit. Takes time to break those kind of habits.
RE: Brown  
Big Blue '56 : 11/8/2018 3:57 pm : link
In comment 14169264 AcidTest said:
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is in an ideal situation. If he plays well, there is a good chance DG will overpay to retain him out of desperation. See Solder, Nate.

As for Monday, I expect a lot of problems due to a lack of chemistry. The final judgment on Brown waits until the end of the season. I'd also like to see E. Brown at center the last few games, but him and Kamrin Moore are permanently tied to the bench.


Except, JB is only 25 and not too many years older than some draftees. I would love him to perform well enough to even merit consideration for an “overpaid” contract.
5 teams  
TommyWiseau : 11/8/2018 4:07 pm : link
put in a waiver claim for him. That mean's 5 teams thought he was better then someone on their 53. Hopefully he can step it up and surprise us
This would be sweet consolation price for the Flowers pick in 2015  
Rjanyg : 11/8/2018 4:37 pm : link
If would could find a RG through this mess of a season then it might be a piece of the puzzle going forward.

If he performs well, DG should lock him up, go get a good vet Center ( Mitch Morse from KC )and Right Tackle ( Cameron Fleming from Dallas ) and draft a C/G and swing Tackle.
Given what he produced for the Rams last year  
.McL. : 11/8/2018 4:52 pm : link
I have done some research on him and he has issues at times with fast DE looping inside. But, he is powerful, does not get bull rushed, has good quickness for recovery, and good athleticism to pull and get downfield.

Despite his name, he seems light years better than the ham-and-eggers we currently trot out there. I expect he will be starting quite a few games for us this year. And there is a high probability we sign him for next year.

Which by the way makes me ask, why are useless people called ham-and-eggers. I like ham and eggs...

Sam-I-am, I do like green eggs and ham!

Heck I even like these eggs and ham



if you never had them, despite their looks, they are actually quite delicious.
Well he can't be any worse - so why not just stick him in there  
PatersonPlank : 11/8/2018 5:13 pm : link
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" Chemistry! Chemistry! "  
gtt350 : 11/8/2018 7:51 pm : link


Jim Mora
RE: Sad state of affairs  
DonQuixote : 11/9/2018 4:58 am : link
In comment 14169005 Mike from Ohio said:
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that this guy gets cut by one team, and not only jumps in as a backup immediately with the Giants, but immediately becomes a starter.

I hope the guy can lock down a position on the right side and be a contributor for a long time, but it really shows has poor our existing talent is.


true
looking at film  
Paulie Walnuts : 11/9/2018 11:48 am : link
this guy is better than any guard on the team
I wouldn’t be surprised to see him play at Tackle  
Damon : 11/9/2018 4:39 pm : link
Before the year is done...

This guy is serviceable and vercitile. We got lucky. I wouldn’t doubt a noticeable improvement in our run game Monday night.
Versatile  
Damon : 11/9/2018 4:42 pm : link
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