Instead of going #1 simply because he’s the most promising QB. I want a new franchise QB as much as anyone but if he’s not the right prospect don’t take him.
Have not been overly impressed with him the last few weeks but I am certainly not a scout.
How bad the Giants truly are. If we lose to the 49ers, we are very much in contention for that #1 pick, but me thinks we get 2-3 more wins this season once its all said and done and end up with the 3rd-4th pick.
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Despite the record, this team hasn't packed it in yet and is relatively healthy. 6 teams with 2 wins or fewer and another 8 with 3 wins -that's nearly half the league within 2 games of us with a much softer 2nd half schedule. That and the fact that Oakland has maxed out in the W column.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
They say last years draft class was better and it is but I think it had more depth than the talent at the top. If Herbert were in that draft class he may have been taken #1 overall.
Im sorry, I dont see Grier as a 1st rounder and I think Lock is a late 1st, early 2nd. So that is where the 2018 is better than 2019 IMO.
Until Herbert declares his intentions all this is Â
That being said, in all honesty, Herbert hasn’t impressed me one iota this entire season. He’s nowhere near where Mayfield, Rosen, and Darnold were as prospects this time last fall. And, yes, I know Darnold struggled last year early but he turned his year around soon thereafter. And he had a good year prior and a stellar Rose Bowl vs PSU. Teams entered last year looking to “suck for Sam”. Hell, in his opening game I saw a guy in the stands in the Coliseum with a Jet 14 Darnold jersey he got custom made at the time. Nobody was looking to tank for this guy starting this year. And next year, you can bet your ass teams will be tanking for Tua and the year after for Lawrence. I want no part of Herbert.
Diluted talent is still better than what we have. If we have the number 1 pick and someone in the top 5-7 wants a QB, you absolutely, positively do it.
Diluted talent is still better than what we have. If we have the number 1 pick and someone in the top 5-7 wants a QB, you absolutely, positively do it.
That's a lazy, desperate use of precious draft resources.
The draft is not about the season at hand, fans need to grasp and accept the concept.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Adams had back surgery and missed this season so that may be why he is not ranked
Obviously, if we're staring at prospects that don't fit Â
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Adams had back surgery and missed this season so that may be why he is not ranked
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
RE: Obviously, if we're staring at prospects that don't fit Â
That's a lazy, desperate use of precious draft resources.
The draft is not about the season at hand, fans need to grasp and accept the concept.
You make it seem like I want to trade into the teens. If a team say like Oakland and denver who both can be top 5-7 picks.... offer a huge package at a chance for their QB... .you go and do it. Sure you have to nail the picks.... but investing in the OL or Edge (which I agree with too) is something you can do by trading down as well.
I know a lot of BBI is not of fan of the site.
Herbert's supporting cast is weak this year but has a big arm and good accuracy.
Plus he is pretty mobile for a big QB.
If he is not available draft lineman and let Eli play another year behind an all rookie line.
I don't think anyone else is worth a high 1st round pick Walters ranking - ( New Window )
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Diluted talent is still better than what we have. If we have the number 1 pick and someone in the top 5-7 wants a QB, you absolutely, positively do it.
That's a lazy, desperate use of precious draft resources.
The draft is not about the season at hand, fans need to grasp and accept the concept.
However, the argument here is with an assumption that HEBERT is that guy. Truthfully, if the Giants stay at #1 BOSA is the absolute terror this defense needs.
Diluted talent is still better than what we have. If we have the number 1 pick and someone in the top 5-7 wants a QB, you absolutely, positively do it.
That's a lazy, desperate use of precious draft resources.
The draft is not about the season at hand, fans need to grasp and accept the concept.
However, the argument here is with an assumption that HEBERT is that guy. Truthfully, if the Giants stay at #1 BOSA is the absolute terror this defense needs.
That's a lazy, desperate use of precious draft resources.
The draft is not about the season at hand, fans need to grasp and accept the concept.
You make it seem like I want to trade into the teens. If a team say like Oakland and denver who both can be top 5-7 picks.... offer a huge package at a chance for their QB... .you go and do it. Sure you have to nail the picks.... but investing in the OL or Edge (which I agree with too) is something you can do by trading down as well.
Until we know who's available and how they stack up in terms of value, it's an exercise in futility. Re-visit in April ...
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
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I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
Alright. I mean he only played in 7 games last year and he hasn't played at all this year, so...
But yeah, he's returning for his final year of eligibility
very talented though. I like his linemate McGary in the midrounds as well. I agree with above poster I think we win 3 more games which puts out arounf 5 pick. Should be interesting.
Trading down tends to bring diluted talent
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more is not always better.
and someone makes a ridiculous offer to move up, you take it....
My only question is, do we have the right people in place making the right decisions? Barkley was a no brainer.....after that, remains to be seen...
Wow. For a "no brainer", the pick certainly caused a lot of contention and commotion and incivility here. And then, his "remains to be seen" resulted in someone ranked as one of the top rookie OG's so far, a very good starter on the DL, a solid pass rusher and contributor, and "remains to be seen" in the form of a project at QB and a DL coming off injury.
And if we pick in those spots and landed that player I would be thrilled.
I am not saying either one is LT or Aaron Donald but they are the two best players in the draft and effect the game tremendously. Even when we lose , when we can rush the passer and our defense is feared I can enjoy the game.
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I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
Alright. I mean he only played in 7 games last year and he hasn't played at all this year, so...
But yeah, he's returning for his final year of eligibility
The Huddle Report has him as the #2 tackle
https://www.thehuddlereport.com/valueboard.shtml
I just started at the top of the list, typed their name in youtube and watched a couple games and moved on to the next name.
And if we pick in those spots and landed that player I would be thrilled.
I am not saying either one is LT or Aaron Donald but they are the two best players in the draft and effect the game tremendously. Even when we lose , when we can rush the passer and our defense is feared I can enjoy the game.
I like Quinnen Williams more than Ed Oliver
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I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
Alright. I mean he only played in 7 games last year and he hasn't played at all this year, so...
But yeah, he's returning for his final year of eligibility
The Huddle Report has him as the #2 tackle
https://www.thehuddlereport.com/valueboard.shtml
I just started at the top of the list, typed their name in youtube and watched a couple games and moved on to the next name.
Hasn't been updated in a month. Adams hasn't even played this year and he already said he wants to return to UW next year.
... I wouldn't even click on a draft preview at this point, and also I wouldn't know the "typical" range of positional balance in a first round ... but No. 4 and No. 25 are the only OL in his projected 1st round?. Guess they already figure that must be addressed in free agency then.
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I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Adams had back surgery and missed this season so that may be why he is not ranked
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I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
Alright. I mean he only played in 7 games last year and he hasn't played at all this year, so...
But yeah, he's returning for his final year of eligibility
The Huddle Report has him as the #2 tackle
https://www.thehuddlereport.com/valueboard.shtml
I just started at the top of the list, typed their name in youtube and watched a couple games and moved on to the next name.
This is Larry from Great Blue North Draft Report. We originally had Trey Adams as one of the top OT's in our 2019 rankings, but once it is confirmed that a player is returning to school, we removed them, as they are no longer in the 2019 Draft equation. This is the case with Trey Adams. Obviously, he could still change his mind at some point, and if he does, we will reinsert him back into the rankings. I just wanted to clarify that, so you would know for sure why Adams is not in our rankings.
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I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
Alright. I mean he only played in 7 games last year and he hasn't played at all this year, so...
But yeah, he's returning for his final year of eligibility
The Huddle Report has him as the #2 tackle
https://www.thehuddlereport.com/valueboard.shtml
I just started at the top of the list, typed their name in youtube and watched a couple games and moved on to the next name.
This is Larry from Great Blue North Draft Report. We originally had Trey Adams as one of the top OT's in our 2019 rankings, but once it is confirmed that a player is returning to school, we remove them, as they are no longer in the 2019 Draft equation. This is the case with Trey Adams. Obviously, he could still change his mind at some point, and if he does, we will reinsert him back into the rankings. I just wanted to clarify that, so you would know for sure why Adams is not in our rankings.
Before we removed Adams, he was our #3 OT, behind only Jonah Williams - JR - Alabama and Greg Little - JR - Mississippi.
Only (5) of the projected first rounders are Seniors.
It seems like there are a disproportionate number of first round underclassmen this year.
I imagine that this will be a continuing trend.
This is Larry from Great Blue North Draft Report. Yes, I agree with you that the trend of underclassmen dominating the 1st round of the draft will definitely continue. It's a cycle in which so many underclassmen declare early entry for the draft each year, that it badly depletes the senior class for the next season, to where each year, there's just not tons of seniors that are viewed in the 1st round equation. If they were graded that high, they would have most likely left the prior season as a junior. Of course, there are exceptions, such as players that would have been 1st rounders as juniors, but go back for their senior season for whatever their reason such as Christian Wilkins - DT - Clemson or Deandre Baker - CB - Georgia, or players that would not have been 1st rounders as juniors, so they go back to school for their senior season and really elevate their game to another level and catapult themselves into the 1st round as seniors, such as Montez Sweat - OLB - Mississippi State or Josh Allen - OLB - Kentucky. But yes, I agree that the 1st round will continue to be dominated by underclassmen because the majority of would be seniors that carried 1st round grades, declared early entry for the draft the prior year.
Only (5) of the projected first rounders are Seniors.
It seems like there are a disproportionate number of first round underclassmen this year.
I imagine that this will be a continuing trend.
This is Larry from Great Blue North Draft Report. Yes, I agree with you that the trend of underclassmen dominating the 1st round of the draft will definitely continue. It's a cycle in which so many underclassmen declare early entry for the draft each year, that it badly depletes the senior class for the next season, to where each year, there's just not tons of seniors that are viewed in the 1st round equation. If they were graded that high, they would have most likely left the prior season as a junior. Of course, there are exceptions, such as players that would have been 1st rounders as juniors, but go back for their senior season for whatever their reason such as Christian Wilkins - DT - Clemson or Deandre Baker - CB - Georgia, or players that would not have been 1st rounders as juniors, so they go back to school for their senior season and really elevate their game to another level and catapult themselves into the 1st round as seniors, such as Montez Sweat - OLB - Mississippi State or Josh Allen - OLB - Kentucky. But yes, I agree that the 1st round will continue to be dominated by underclassmen because the majority of would be seniors that carried 1st round grades, declared early entry for the draft the prior year.
Also,just an FYI. I actually have 7 seniors in my 1st round mock, instead of 5, which are Will Grier, Josh Allen, Drew Lock, Deandre Baker, Christian Wilkins, Montez Sweat, and Zach Allen.
RE: RE: The Giants won't win another game this year. Â
Have not been overly impressed with him the last few weeks but I am certainly not a scout.
Can’t even predict picks right now. We need to get through FA first and if we even will be in that spot.
Agreed, Oakland will end up at the top spot and Gruden will swindle the Giants into trading for it
A top 5 draw is much more realistic.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
It seems like there are a disproportionate number of first round underclassmen this year.
I imagine that this will be a continuing trend.
At least Parker has Grier at #8 - where he belongs, the top ten.
Sweat and Love are way too low at 26 and 32, respectively. Sweat is the real deal...
They say last years draft class was better and it is but I think it had more depth than the talent at the top. If Herbert were in that draft class he may have been taken #1 overall.
Im sorry, I dont see Grier as a 1st rounder and I think Lock is a late 1st, early 2nd. So that is where the 2018 is better than 2019 IMO.
That being said, in all honesty, Herbert hasn’t impressed me one iota this entire season. He’s nowhere near where Mayfield, Rosen, and Darnold were as prospects this time last fall. And, yes, I know Darnold struggled last year early but he turned his year around soon thereafter. And he had a good year prior and a stellar Rose Bowl vs PSU. Teams entered last year looking to “suck for Sam”. Hell, in his opening game I saw a guy in the stands in the Coliseum with a Jet 14 Darnold jersey he got custom made at the time. Nobody was looking to tank for this guy starting this year. And next year, you can bet your ass teams will be tanking for Tua and the year after for Lawrence. I want no part of Herbert.
JonC : 9:13 am : link : reply
more is not always better.
and someone makes a ridiculous offer to move up, you take it....
My only question is, do we have the right people in place making the right decisions? Barkley was a no brainer.....after that, remains to be seen...
Diluted talent is still better than what we have. If we have the number 1 pick and someone in the top 5-7 wants a QB, you absolutely, positively do it.
Grier and Lock are now in GBN's top 11... but they have also not even been listed in other 1st RD mocks.
And Dave Brown... err I mean, Daniel Jones is not even in the 1st RD.
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more is not always better.
Diluted talent is still better than what we have. If we have the number 1 pick and someone in the top 5-7 wants a QB, you absolutely, positively do it.
That's a lazy, desperate use of precious draft resources.
The draft is not about the season at hand, fans need to grasp and accept the concept.
JonC : 9:13 am : link : reply
more is not always better.
and someone makes a ridiculous offer to move up, you take it....
My only question is, do we have the right people in place making the right decisions? Barkley was a no brainer.....after that, remains to be seen...
That's a lot of "ifs" that typically aren't an issue when picking in the Top 5.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
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Even if you look at their rankings list.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Adams had back surgery and missed this season so that may be why he is not ranked
He's also going back to Washington
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
That's a lazy, desperate use of precious draft resources.
The draft is not about the season at hand, fans need to grasp and accept the concept.
You make it seem like I want to trade into the teens. If a team say like Oakland and denver who both can be top 5-7 picks.... offer a huge package at a chance for their QB... .you go and do it. Sure you have to nail the picks.... but investing in the OL or Edge (which I agree with too) is something you can do by trading down as well.
We have that same need.
Herbert's supporting cast is weak this year but has a big arm and good accuracy.
Plus he is pretty mobile for a big QB.
If he is not available draft lineman and let Eli play another year behind an all rookie line.
I don't think anyone else is worth a high 1st round pick
Walters ranking - ( New Window )
I have a feeling we beat SF and we do so handily.
I’d rather take a long-term offensive lineman investment or two and then draft an actually great franchise qb when one is available.
But since this organization is run by NYMETS jr. now I feel it will all go wrong.
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more is not always better.
Diluted talent is still better than what we have. If we have the number 1 pick and someone in the top 5-7 wants a QB, you absolutely, positively do it.
That's a lazy, desperate use of precious draft resources.
The draft is not about the season at hand, fans need to grasp and accept the concept.
However, the argument here is with an assumption that HEBERT is that guy. Truthfully, if the Giants stay at #1 BOSA is the absolute terror this defense needs.
If the Giants covet one of the eligible QBs they have to take him.
If there is no QB worthy of their pick, I would trade down and acquire another first and second for next year.
If Hebert stays in school there will be at least 3 premium qbs in 2020.
The Giants must come away with one of Tua, Hebert, and Fromm.
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more is not always better.
Diluted talent is still better than what we have. If we have the number 1 pick and someone in the top 5-7 wants a QB, you absolutely, positively do it.
That's a lazy, desperate use of precious draft resources.
The draft is not about the season at hand, fans need to grasp and accept the concept.
However, the argument here is with an assumption that HEBERT is that guy. Truthfully, if the Giants stay at #1 BOSA is the absolute terror this defense needs.
Nope, look up ...
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That's a lazy, desperate use of precious draft resources.
The draft is not about the season at hand, fans need to grasp and accept the concept.
You make it seem like I want to trade into the teens. If a team say like Oakland and denver who both can be top 5-7 picks.... offer a huge package at a chance for their QB... .you go and do it. Sure you have to nail the picks.... but investing in the OL or Edge (which I agree with too) is something you can do by trading down as well.
Until we know who's available and how they stack up in terms of value, it's an exercise in futility. Re-visit in April ...
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Even if you look at their rankings list.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
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Even if you look at their rankings list.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
Alright. I mean he only played in 7 games last year and he hasn't played at all this year, so...
But yeah, he's returning for his final year of eligibility
JonC : 9:13 am : link : reply
more is not always better.
and someone makes a ridiculous offer to move up, you take it....
My only question is, do we have the right people in place making the right decisions? Barkley was a no brainer.....after that, remains to be seen...
Wow. For a "no brainer", the pick certainly caused a lot of contention and commotion and incivility here. And then, his "remains to be seen" resulted in someone ranked as one of the top rookie OG's so far, a very good starter on the DL, a solid pass rusher and contributor, and "remains to be seen" in the form of a project at QB and a DL coming off injury.
I don't see why that would not be encouraging.
And if we pick in those spots and landed that player I would be thrilled.
I am not saying either one is LT or Aaron Donald but they are the two best players in the draft and effect the game tremendously. Even when we lose , when we can rush the passer and our defense is feared I can enjoy the game.
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Even if you look at their rankings list.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
Alright. I mean he only played in 7 games last year and he hasn't played at all this year, so...
But yeah, he's returning for his final year of eligibility
The Huddle Report has him as the #2 tackle
https://www.thehuddlereport.com/valueboard.shtml
I just started at the top of the list, typed their name in youtube and watched a couple games and moved on to the next name.
And if we pick in those spots and landed that player I would be thrilled.
I am not saying either one is LT or Aaron Donald but they are the two best players in the draft and effect the game tremendously. Even when we lose , when we can rush the passer and our defense is feared I can enjoy the game.
I like Quinnen Williams more than Ed Oliver
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Even if you look at their rankings list.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
Alright. I mean he only played in 7 games last year and he hasn't played at all this year, so...
But yeah, he's returning for his final year of eligibility
The Huddle Report has him as the #2 tackle
https://www.thehuddlereport.com/valueboard.shtml
I just started at the top of the list, typed their name in youtube and watched a couple games and moved on to the next name.
Hasn't been updated in a month. Adams hasn't even played this year and he already said he wants to return to UW next year.
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Basically, The Giants are bad but are trying. Oakland is worse and is not trying.
Agreed, Oakland will end up at the top spot and Gruden will swindle the Giants into trading for it
This guy apparently thinks Gruden and the Raiders will accidentally win more game not trying than Shurmer and the Giants will trying.
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Even if you look at their rankings list.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Adams had back surgery and missed this season so that may be why he is not ranked
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Even if you look at their rankings list.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
Alright. I mean he only played in 7 games last year and he hasn't played at all this year, so...
But yeah, he's returning for his final year of eligibility
The Huddle Report has him as the #2 tackle
https://www.thehuddlereport.com/valueboard.shtml
I just started at the top of the list, typed their name in youtube and watched a couple games and moved on to the next name.
This is Larry from Great Blue North Draft Report. We originally had Trey Adams as one of the top OT's in our 2019 rankings, but once it is confirmed that a player is returning to school, we removed them, as they are no longer in the 2019 Draft equation. This is the case with Trey Adams. Obviously, he could still change his mind at some point, and if he does, we will reinsert him back into the rankings. I just wanted to clarify that, so you would know for sure why Adams is not in our rankings.
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Even if you look at their rankings list.
I haven't seen much of him, but what i did see looked good. He looks like Nate Solder out there and has Andrew Whitworth movement skills an ability to hit his target at the 2nd level.
I've been watching to see what the scouts take will be on him, because with my untrained eye he looks like a top pick to me. Just weird that he isn't listed at all on their website.
Uhhh, when have you seen him?
I watch the draft breakdown videos on youtube. I only saw two games of his so far.
Thanks, for the injury info.
Alright. I mean he only played in 7 games last year and he hasn't played at all this year, so...
But yeah, he's returning for his final year of eligibility
The Huddle Report has him as the #2 tackle
https://www.thehuddlereport.com/valueboard.shtml
I just started at the top of the list, typed their name in youtube and watched a couple games and moved on to the next name.
This is Larry from Great Blue North Draft Report. We originally had Trey Adams as one of the top OT's in our 2019 rankings, but once it is confirmed that a player is returning to school, we remove them, as they are no longer in the 2019 Draft equation. This is the case with Trey Adams. Obviously, he could still change his mind at some point, and if he does, we will reinsert him back into the rankings. I just wanted to clarify that, so you would know for sure why Adams is not in our rankings.
It seems like there are a disproportionate number of first round underclassmen this year.
I imagine that this will be a continuing trend.
This is Larry from Great Blue North Draft Report. Yes, I agree with you that the trend of underclassmen dominating the 1st round of the draft will definitely continue. It's a cycle in which so many underclassmen declare early entry for the draft each year, that it badly depletes the senior class for the next season, to where each year, there's just not tons of seniors that are viewed in the 1st round equation. If they were graded that high, they would have most likely left the prior season as a junior. Of course, there are exceptions, such as players that would have been 1st rounders as juniors, but go back for their senior season for whatever their reason such as Christian Wilkins - DT - Clemson or Deandre Baker - CB - Georgia, or players that would not have been 1st rounders as juniors, so they go back to school for their senior season and really elevate their game to another level and catapult themselves into the 1st round as seniors, such as Montez Sweat - OLB - Mississippi State or Josh Allen - OLB - Kentucky. But yes, I agree that the 1st round will continue to be dominated by underclassmen because the majority of would be seniors that carried 1st round grades, declared early entry for the draft the prior year.
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Only (5) of the projected first rounders are Seniors.
It seems like there are a disproportionate number of first round underclassmen this year.
I imagine that this will be a continuing trend.
This is Larry from Great Blue North Draft Report. Yes, I agree with you that the trend of underclassmen dominating the 1st round of the draft will definitely continue. It's a cycle in which so many underclassmen declare early entry for the draft each year, that it badly depletes the senior class for the next season, to where each year, there's just not tons of seniors that are viewed in the 1st round equation. If they were graded that high, they would have most likely left the prior season as a junior. Of course, there are exceptions, such as players that would have been 1st rounders as juniors, but go back for their senior season for whatever their reason such as Christian Wilkins - DT - Clemson or Deandre Baker - CB - Georgia, or players that would not have been 1st rounders as juniors, so they go back to school for their senior season and really elevate their game to another level and catapult themselves into the 1st round as seniors, such as Montez Sweat - OLB - Mississippi State or Josh Allen - OLB - Kentucky. But yes, I agree that the 1st round will continue to be dominated by underclassmen because the majority of would be seniors that carried 1st round grades, declared early entry for the draft the prior year.
Also,just an FYI. I actually have 7 seniors in my 1st round mock, instead of 5, which are Will Grier, Josh Allen, Drew Lock, Deandre Baker, Christian Wilkins, Montez Sweat, and Zach Allen.
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I have a feeling we beat SF and we do so handily.