If Eli were to play out the remaining year on his contract, he will be the highest paid player in the history of the NFL in terms of career player contract earnings. Unless you also feel that he's the best player in NFL history, I don't know how you can claim that he deserves every dollar he has gotten.
Lets rephrase this another way......
Would you give Eli the money he has received if it meant 2 SB titles in his career? Even if it meant being the highest paid player ever?
Let's rephrase it yet another way instead...
If Eli got paid over the course of his career more in line with his actual performance (and relative to his QB peers and their respective contracts), could the Giants have won more than they actually did because they could have used the resulting cap space to supplement the overall roster?
No, because the guy making those decisions was a clown.
Alex Smith mentored two up and coming QBs and def made them better.
Smith was never quite a baller, but still he was a playoff QB in both scenarios.
Smith was only a good QB when he had two brilliant offensive minds in Harbaugh and Reid. If the Giants draft a QB and keep Eli he will mentor the QB. Davis Webb praised Eli numerous times for helping him while he was here. Eli is not Favre where he will do little to help the QB. Eli is a professional but he is human so of course he would rather not mentor a young QB and instead use the resources to win now while he is there.
but some people's loyalty to Eli Manning, as an individual person, is beyond me.
Eli Manning has been well compensated for what he has accomplished. If he wants to play for the Giants, then it has to fit in with the interests of the team. He is not owed one cent.
In the NFL, more so than any other major sports league, teams can flip from good to bad, and vice versa, in the matter of one offseason. Manning believes this Giants roster is much closer to competing for another championship than most people realize right now.
“It may be hard to realize or say it, but I don’t the Giants are far off,’’ he said.
That was the crap we were fed this past off season by the Giants.....they were not far off.....AGAIN!!!!!!!
He has given his all to the franchise but 23 mil is too high for the performance he is given us and I DO NO THINK this 1 and 7 is all his fault. However, if he wants to stay so bad he should offer to take a cut so he can help the team sign some OL help. Brady makes less than he should (yes his wife is loaded) but you have to be reasonable.
as the team has to decisively put the past behind but the only way he ought to stay is to accept a cut in payout IF the other options are brutal. i would rather even have bridgewater as a ‘bridge’ qb only because he stands a chance of giving NYG a couple of seasons or more before they have to spend a pick.
Archie is trying to extend Eli career by sending the signals. But Giants can’t let sentiments cloud judgement yet again.
But Giants can’t let sentiments cloud judgement yet again.
This is the kind of crap that continually gets in the way of god honest improvement. And we have seen it continue in many different ways with this franchise with flawed or aging players and some incompetent coaches.
If it happens again here, it will just be par for the course...
i don’t think many here understand the impact keeping him in any capacity will have as a morale crusher in the locker room. Not to mention the stadium being empty like in Miami and Arizona should this go forward.
that Eli makes a good mentor? the stellar success of his backups? His ability to make the team around him better? His outstanding leadership qualities?
Oh wait, he was spotted in the cafeteria with Webb. That's worth a huge cap hit.
This is the dumbest shit I've read in a while.
It's the luxury of having your young guy have someone to shadow to learn the perfect way of doing EVERYTHING it takes to be a QB, and there's not a better person to follow than Eli, if you wanna learn preparation, how to conduct yourself, and all the little things that go into being the face of a franchise.
You say words but they don't mean a god damn thing.
What a young QB can learn from following Eli around on the job is infinite, if you don't get that.. I'm sorry but you have a staggeringly low IQ. Because this shit is just common sense.
Could point to every elite QB in the league and say "durr what have their back ups done?"
If that's a demonstration of your critical thinking skills I'm sorry your mother slugged whiskey next to a microwave in a crackhouse while she was pregnant.
i don’t think many here understand the impact keeping him in any capacity will have as a morale crusher in the locker room. Not to mention the stadium being empty like in Miami and Arizona should this go forward.
I would be mostly concerned of the coaches to willing to give him reps and chances when we need to put new blood under center. This isnt about the best player starts crap...we have to remove him from the situation and put all efforts into figuring out who can be the next guy(s)...
It's already ugly. He's getting butchered out there and it's only going to get worse on the field. The team deflects a lot of the media scrutiny, but eventually they'll have to either sit him or eventually cut him
Yes, 1-7 is ugly. I was referencing Eli's exit. The Mannings will take the gloves off when Eli is cut.
I don't get why he would continue to play if he is released. There are gifs of him going down with minimal contact. Unless he is making business decisions on those plays, there is no way he can get over that with a change of scenery.
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If Eli were to play out the remaining year on his contract, he will be the highest paid player in the history of the NFL in terms of career player contract earnings. Unless you also feel that he's the best player in NFL history, I don't know how you can claim that he deserves every dollar he has gotten.
Lets rephrase this another way......
Would you give Eli the money he has received if it meant 2 SB titles in his career? Even if it meant being the highest paid player ever?
Let's rephrase it yet another way instead...
If Eli got paid over the course of his career more in line with his actual performance (and relative to his QB peers and their respective contracts), could the Giants have won more than they actually did because they could have used the resulting cap space to supplement the overall roster?
No, because the guy making those decisions was a clown.
There will be no mentoring.
This is Eli's biggest fault, especially now.
Alex Smith mentored two up and coming QBs and def made them better.
Smith was never quite a baller, but still he was a playoff QB in both scenarios.
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There will be no mentoring.
This is Eli's biggest fault, especially now.
Alex Smith mentored two up and coming QBs and def made them better.
Smith was never quite a baller, but still he was a playoff QB in both scenarios.
Smith was only a good QB when he had two brilliant offensive minds in Harbaugh and Reid. If the Giants draft a QB and keep Eli he will mentor the QB. Davis Webb praised Eli numerous times for helping him while he was here. Eli is not Favre where he will do little to help the QB. Eli is a professional but he is human so of course he would rather not mentor a young QB and instead use the resources to win now while he is there.
Eli Manning has been well compensated for what he has accomplished. If he wants to play for the Giants, then it has to fit in with the interests of the team. He is not owed one cent.
“It may be hard to realize or say it, but I don’t the Giants are far off,’’ he said.
That was the crap we were fed this past off season by the Giants.....they were not far off.....AGAIN!!!!!!!
That made my laugh...well played.
Seriously?
Archie is trying to extend Eli career by sending the signals. But Giants can’t let sentiments cloud judgement yet again.
This is the kind of crap that continually gets in the way of god honest improvement. And we have seen it continue in many different ways with this franchise with flawed or aging players and some incompetent coaches.
If it happens again here, it will just be par for the course...
Oh wait, he was spotted in the cafeteria with Webb. That's worth a huge cap hit.
This is the dumbest shit I've read in a while.
It's the luxury of having your young guy have someone to shadow to learn the perfect way of doing EVERYTHING it takes to be a QB, and there's not a better person to follow than Eli, if you wanna learn preparation, how to conduct yourself, and all the little things that go into being the face of a franchise.
You say words but they don't mean a god damn thing.
What a young QB can learn from following Eli around on the job is infinite, if you don't get that.. I'm sorry but you have a staggeringly low IQ. Because this shit is just common sense.
Could point to every elite QB in the league and say "durr what have their back ups done?"
If that's a demonstration of your critical thinking skills I'm sorry your mother slugged whiskey next to a microwave in a crackhouse while she was pregnant.
I would be mostly concerned of the coaches to willing to give him reps and chances when we need to put new blood under center. This isnt about the best player starts crap...we have to remove him from the situation and put all efforts into figuring out who can be the next guy(s)...
But if we win 8 in a row...
But if we win 8 in a row...
And what...we are good to go next year??
That would be a foolish decision...don't be the fool that supports it. Its akin to relying on a good performance versus Philly last year...
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And we can move on.
But if we win 8 in a row...
And what...we are good to go next year??
That would be a foolish decision...don't be the fool that supports it. Its akin to relying on a good performance versus Philly last year...
Ok good point.
But what if we win 12 in a row... haha
So I am all for that...
Sucky all around take. Seriously. Sucky.
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LOL, and when did you stop sucking your daddy’s cock?
I like where this is going. Did your daddy stop sucking his wife's cock or Daddy beating someone's cock no beef with either of u but I love bbi
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ugly.
It's already ugly. He's getting butchered out there and it's only going to get worse on the field. The team deflects a lot of the media scrutiny, but eventually they'll have to either sit him or eventually cut him
I don't get why he would continue to play if he is released. There are gifs of him going down with minimal contact. Unless he is making business decisions on those plays, there is no way he can get over that with a change of scenery.