CFB Saturday 11-10

In comment 14171166 RobCarpenter said:

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In comment 14171164 MookGiants said: Quote: of Michigan should simply point out the only even decent team they've beat is Penn State and calling Penn State decent might be a stretch. And McSorley was basically a cripple. Michigan State and Wisconsin stink. Mook, we all get it, ND beat Michigan.

Most michigan fans ignore it actually. Most media members ignore it. They also ignore that notre dame's two best offensive players by far didnt play a single snap in that game. Herbstreit on the playoff show the other day acted like because it was labor day weekend it doesn't matter, like Michigan is the only team that gets better as the season goes on. News flash most teams do, and the team that got significantly better roster wise after that game was ND, not Michigan.

There were guys on ESPN saying with a straight face that Michigan would be in over 1 loss Alabama. I dont doubt that it would happen, but on no planet SHOULD it happen. Bama with 1 loss to Georgia is still 1 of the 4 best teams in the country and anyone arguing otherwise needs to stop doing heavy drugs. It's not like they'd be going against 4 undefeated teams.

In comment 14171167 MookGiants said:

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but if ND and Clemson run the table (ND no sure thing to do so) and Georgia beats Bama in the SEC title game, I would love for one person to come up with a legitimate reason that Michigan would belong in over Alabama. Bama's loss would be just as good as any loss for Michigan. Bama's best win would be at LSU which would be just as good as a win in Columbus. I'm sure the B10 money would push them in, but I don't think even one person in American could say with a straight face that Michigan would belong in over Bama.

Come on now. This is just being silly. You dont win your conference, you dont belong in.

ND is leaps and bounds better since Book and Williams are playing and Michigan isnt.

In comment 14171172 dep026 said:

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In comment 14171168 RobCarpenter said: Quote: In comment 14171158 dep026 said: Quote: Playing 3rd and 4th stringers on both sides of the ball. No they aren’t. Dru Wilson... Ronnie Bell. Some of the interior DL.

They are rotating the DL, like they always do. Tru Wilson is running better than Evans. Ronnie Bell is part of the WR rotation.

I’m expecting the backups in the 3rd quarter.

In comment 14171176 dep026 said:

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ND is leaps and bounds better since Book and Williams are playing and Michigan isnt.

You guys continue to not have the ability to read.

No one said Michigan isnt much better. But michigan fans act like they are the only team that got significantly better. And they act like the game labor day weekend never happened.

Michigan fans with a straight face actually believe that they would belong in at 1 loss over a 1 loss ND.

Not sure how on any planet the head to head doesnt break that tie, but whatever.

I dont know how any 1 loss team (outside of Georgia if they were to beat them) actually with a straight face thinks they'd belong in over a 1 loss Bama, ND included. If you believe that its time to start watching a new sport.

if Michigan wins out they are getting in. And I believe that too.

I think even has a prayer of beating Bama is Georgia if they can find a way to mix Fields into a game plan. Even that would take a minor miracle imo. Tua getting hurt would change things but obviously this is assuming everyone is healthy

In comment 14171193 dep026 said:

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if Michigan wins out they are getting in. And I believe that too.

I think that should come with a "assuming Bama goes undefeated" attached to it, and listening to these clowns it doesnt come with that attached to it.

Bama loses by a field goal in the SEC title game to Georgia and finishes 12-1.

Michigan wins big 10 beating some sack of shit team from the other division and finishes 12-1.

Now come up with the argument that Michigan belongs in over Alabama based on eye test, resume, whatever. The argument doesnt exist. Besides Big 10 money

its simple. You need to differentiate between who is better and who is more deserving. Bama is the best team in the nation. But if they lose the conference, they dont deserve it.

So by your standards, even with a SEC loss - they only drop as low as 2 and Georgia goes to 1 since its clear as day that Bama is better than both Clemson and ND, right?

if that's what you believe about "more deserving" then how do you with a straight face say Michigan at 12-1 would be "more deserving" of going to the playoff than ND at 11-1 when ND beat them and lead by 2 touchdowns for almost 90% of the game.

Can't have it both ways.

In comment 14171194 MookGiants said:

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I think even has a prayer of beating Bama is Georgia if they can find a way to mix Fields into a game plan. Even that would take a minor miracle imo. Tua getting hurt would change things but obviously this is assuming everyone is healthy

I actually think Clemson has a better chance than Georgia but that isn’t saying much because they’ll get smoked too. Clemson is better than Georgia, imo

of undefeated teams if they have 1 loss.

But you sure as fuck can put them ahead of every other 1 loss team besides the 1 they lost to.

I think its going to take care of itself anyways. Bama won't lose or Ohio State will beat Michigan. I still have a hard time seeing Urban Meyer losing that game in 2 weeks. I do think Michigan is the better team but I think Meyer is the far better coach.

In comment 14171204 MookGiants said:

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if that's what you believe about "more deserving" then how do you with a straight face say Michigan at 12-1 would be "more deserving" of going to the playoff than ND at 11-1 when ND beat them and lead by 2 touchdowns for almost 90% of the game. Can't have it both ways.

When did I say that?

Mook you actually commented on this same situation when I brought it up a few weeks ago...

When Bama, Clemson, ND, OSU, and Georgia were undefeated... and I said the loser of the SEC by 3 points.... would it keep ND out of the playoff and you said.... the loser would be out no matter what since they didnt win their conference.

You cant have it both ways, either...

doesn't look right the last few drives.

Is Hurts available today?

In comment 14171211 MookGiants said:

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of undefeated teams if they have 1 loss. But you sure as fuck can put them ahead of every other 1 loss team besides the 1 they lost to. I think its going to take care of itself anyways. Bama won't lose or Ohio State will beat Michigan. I still have a hard time seeing Urban Meyer losing that game in 2 weeks. I do think Michigan is the better team but I think Meyer is the far better coach.

Ohio State has looked like trash lately. No way they beat Michigan

if there's 5 undefeated teams and then one of them has to lose in the SEC title game, then the loser is obviously going to be 100% out.

You are arguing for a 1 loss michigan to be in over a 1 loss alabama.

No undefeated power 5 school is getting left out for a 1 loss Alabama.

Completely different scenario with michigan vs alabama

So Fucking boring. Give it a rest for a week.

Didn't ND beat Michigan? That settles it imo.

I agree they haven't looked great, but I'll believe Meyer loses at home to Michigan when I see it. Especially with what will be on the line

In comment 14171220 B in ALB said:

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Didn't ND beat Michigan? That settles it imo.

I dont think anyone is arguing that? I am certainly not.

defense did look good today.

Michigan fans like to act like Michigan State is a good team, so by their definition thats a great win for Ohio State

In comment 14171224 MookGiants said:

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defense did look good today. Michigan fans like to act like Michigan State is a good team, so by their definition thats a great win for Ohio State

Do you know like a million Michigan fans? You keep referring to us as if theres a ton of us.

to ESPNU Radio all week driving around my territory for work. The amount of delusional michigan fans is frightening.

A 6-4 team is about to win the west. That's absurd.

In comment 14171229 MookGiants said:

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to ESPNU Radio all week driving around my territory for work. The amount of delusional michigan fans is frightening.

Well all fan bases have those fans.

we had Giants fans thinking we were playoff bound. I dont think its delusional to think by winning out they would in the top 4.

In comment 14171230 B in ALB said:

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A 6-4 team is about to win the west. That's absurd.

This I agree with. The west has been a joke since they split. Wisconsin has basically had a free reign for years. Been saying about the unbalanced since they split.

ISU is winning 17-0 but there have been two huge brawls on the field

like they are today, they are going to get beat. I believe their defense is national title good, but I am still not sold on their offense.

is Miss State punting on 4th and 1 down 21-0? Are they trying to give themselves a chance to win or are they simply trying to not lose by 40?

The question is does he turn pro or stay in school?

I have serious concerns about Tua making it all the way through the season. Keeps getting hit low. Really need Hurts to get healthy. I wouldn't put him back into this game. This knee issue is not getting better.

why Alabama keeps Tua out there. Does not look right and their line is getting their asses kicked right now.

Bama could handle the ball off the rest of the game and I think they are going to still win

He really does not look right. This game would be very interesting right now if not for the refs

They have to stop pushing him. If Hurts can go next week, they have to just start him and sit Tua. I wouldn't even play Tua if Hurts can't go - it's Citadel. Jones can hand the ball off all game and Bama will win by 5 TD's.

Play Hurts against Auburn too.

I really wouldn't let Tua play again until Georgia.

didn't put the screws to Miss State in this game on those 2 huge blown calls It's 14-7 right now and at least interesting as far as who wins/loses.

up in Iowa City, but did the NW kicker just come up short on a 38 yard field goal?

is oblivious and has no clue that the crowd is cheering because the line on the game is 22. If Musberger were doing this one he would know exactly why they were cheering

Why punt down 24?

Danielson is fucking awful, man. I can't stand him.

I really like the way he throws way better then Herbert, sure Herbert looks to have the more athletic body but Will Grier has way better accuracy and throws the deep ball so lovely

In comment 14171242 dep026 said:

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like they are today, they are going to get beat. I believe their defense is national title good, but I am still not sold on their offense.

The O is fine. They just don’t air it out enough. I was hoping to see some Tarik Black catches today.

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Sounds like Jeff the Drunk.

Oh, look. Refs favoring Notre Dame.

Meyers had the ball.

How the fuck the ref calls that a catch is unreal.

Since when did Doug Flutie become such a ND fan?

In comment 14171355 B in ALB said:

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Oh, look. Refs favoring Notre Dame. Meyers had the ball. How the fuck the ref calls that a catch is unreal. Since when did Doug Flutie become such a ND fan?

What are you complaining about? They overturned the call.

I’m really sure the ACC are going out of there way to help ND. Give me a break.

In comment 14171360 Metnut said:

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In comment 14171355 B in ALB said: Quote: Oh, look. Refs favoring Notre Dame. Meyers had the ball. How the fuck the ref calls that a catch is unreal. Since when did Doug Flutie become such a ND fan? What are you complaining about? They overturned the call. I’m really sure the ACC are going out of there way to help ND. Give me a break.

They still had to overturn it. It was an obvious call live.

Here's another call that needs to be overturned.

His heel is out of bounds.

Awful.

What a joke.

So apparently your heel can be out of bound in South Bend. Clownshow.

Explained the Mack td pretty well. His heel hit in bounds forst then slid out, which makes it a catch.

The heel did slide out, but not before it was already inbounds. Once the hell hits in even if it slides out hes fine

Your ND hatred is getting old. When they wipe your boys ass next week will you shut the fuck up already?

miss that roughing the snapper

Is a fuckin horse.

BC with a punt return TD!

7-3!

In comment 14171407 slickwilly said:

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Your ND hatred is getting old. When they wipe your boys ass next week will you shut the fuck up already?

When they wipe their ass?

You're too stupid to even insult someone. Hahaha. Moron.