At least DG is cutting his losses. What a terrible signing. Omameh and Stewart basically gave the team nothing. Solder has been terrible as well, but okay giving him more time until we have more competent players around him.
on BBI about this guy. A supposed starting G getting only $5 million a year in the open market is a red flag of sorts. Pugh got $9 million per and most folks around here were glad to see him go.
on BBI about this guy. A supposed starting G getting only $5 million a year in the open market is a red flag of sorts. Pugh got $9 million per and most folks around here were glad to see him go.
Fluker only signed a one year deal for like 1.5M
The signing was a bad move. Cutting him was the right thing to do.
on BBI about this guy. A supposed starting G getting only $5 million a year in the open market is a red flag of sorts. Pugh got $9 million per and most folks around here were glad to see him go.
The optimism was fine, he was sort of a prospect in his own right. People writing him in as an OL building block were foolish though.
on BBI about this guy. A supposed starting G getting only $5 million a year in the open market is a red flag of sorts. Pugh got $9 million per and most folks around here were glad to see him go.
Fluker only signed a one year deal for like 1.5M
Yes, a one year prove-it deal for a guy trying to establish himself after busting in San Diego. I don't think people around here were viewing Omameh as a reclamation project.
Is Gettleman is running this team like it's a Yahoo fantasy football team.
Maybe we should limit his allowed waiver moves?
Are you suggesting he should have held on to him? Or that he shouldnt be trying to add players at all?
Wtf? Are you Omamehs mother? Its the only explanation...And fwiw, Mrs. Omameh, your son fucking sucks so stop whining about him getting dumped for a waiver wire claim. Instead of asking the league to change the rules to protect your son, how about telling him to play better?
Another on IR. And the worst contract in nfl history.
Good job DG.
How is this, or Solder's contract for that matter the worst contract in NFL history? Or worse than any contract Sam Bradford has signed for that matter? Or Joe Flacco's? Or Jerrick McKinnon's?
Ive seen you say this several times presumably because you really believe it and it's just a silly thing to say.
Another on IR. And the worst contract in nfl history.
Good job DG.
How is this, or Solder's contract for that matter the worst contract in NFL history? Or worse than any contract Sam Bradford has signed for that matter? Or Joe Flacco's? Or Jerrick McKinnon's?
Ive seen you say this several times presumably because you really believe it and it's just a silly thing to say.
Well McKinnon got hurt. Solder is playing as one of the worst tackles in the league and being paid as the highest. Being one of the worst and being paid as the best is the clearest way of being one of the worst contracts ever.
It was a poor signing and it hurt the team. Thats the real issue and problem.
I think evidence is mounting - in the aggregate, DG has made more poor moves than quality moves to help this team. It really would be a sin to keep him on as GM.
But hey - lets keep playing Eli because it gives us the best chance to win. So says that other horrific hire by DG, Pat Shurmur.
I believe that to be considered or vested for purposes of calculating compensatory picks a player must be on the team for 10 weeks
I think you may be right. There are obviously other factors like Pugh and Richberg's PT, whether Geno Smith factors, etc. But this move may free up the Kennard side of the ledger and get us an extra 5th round comp. At the very least I think it guarantees that one of Pugh/Richburg count. I'm sure that was a factor in this decision.
Another on IR. And the worst contract in nfl history.
Good job DG.
How is this, or Solder's contract for that matter the worst contract in NFL history? Or worse than any contract Sam Bradford has signed for that matter? Or Joe Flacco's? Or Jerrick McKinnon's?
Ive seen you say this several times presumably because you really believe it and it's just a silly thing to say.
Well McKinnon got hurt. Solder is playing as one of the worst tackles in the league and being paid as the highest. Being one of the worst and being paid as the best is the clearest way of being one of the worst contracts ever.
Its not clear at all dep, youre just wrong. Solder plays a premium position and was all but unanimously considered to be the top LT on the market in the offseason. McKinnon is a running back who got 18 million guaranteed who never got more than 600 on the ground. What abput Sammy Watkins? Jordan Reed? Hell Cam Chancellor got 25 million guaranteed and played only 9 games.
Your assertion is just flat out wrong and silly.
Pretty surprised that they didnt wait until the offseason. With the
trades and the cuts, the Giants have thrown a lot of money away.
I thought that at least Omameh would stay as a backup until the offseason. The history with Giants linemen almost guarantees that Hernandez will go down.
Youre using guys who got hurt as comparisons, which isnt fair. Sammy Watkins has been very productive this year so I am not sure what that means.
Many people blasted the Solder signing because many felt he was an average tackle being paid premium money. And so far... he hasnt even been close to average.
I believe that to be considered or vested for purposes of calculating compensatory picks a player must be on the team for 10 weeks
I think you may be right. There are obviously other factors like Pugh and Richberg's PT, whether Geno Smith factors, etc. But this move may free up the Kennard side of the ledger and get us an extra 5th round comp. At the very least I think it guarantees that one of Pugh/Richburg count. I'm sure that was a factor in this decision.
I believe you are all correct. Now I am happy. I will check OTC to see when they update the projections.
He was the best RG that we could afford last offseason and was glad we got him, its sad he didnt turn out to good but I think the real problem is the OL coaching
I believe that to be considered or vested for purposes of calculating compensatory picks a player must be on the team for 10 weeks
I think you may be right. There are obviously other factors like Pugh and Richberg's PT, whether Geno Smith factors, etc. But this move may free up the Kennard side of the ledger and get us an extra 5th round comp. At the very least I think it guarantees that one of Pugh/Richburg count. I'm sure that was a factor in this decision.
I believe you are all correct. Now I am happy. I will check OTC to see when they update the projections.
Other regimes not so much. Omameh was human garbage, but he was strong and didn't get pushed back into the pocket.
Yeah if it was Reese I bet Omameh would be starting for another 3 years and Flowers would still be starting at LT...that guy never switched up the roster like Gentlemen is doing.
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I don't think we find that out until Monday
I guess no harm, no foul
Good job DG.
About 7M in dead money this year. 3M dead money next year with a net cap savings of 1.5M for '19.
Good move. You can't get back sunk cost, if you have a losing hand you fold.
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Fluker only signed a one year deal for like 1.5M
Jamon
I'm thinking Jamon Brown?
The optimism was fine, he was sort of a prospect in his own right. People writing him in as an OL building block were foolish though.
Maybe we should limit his allowed waiver moves?
evaluation and selection. Dreadful x5
Problem is there's zero evidence that he has any clue what he's doing.
Horrible hire. John Mara would be very smart to walk away from him in the off-season. He won't, but he should
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on BBI about this guy. A supposed starting G getting only $5 million a year in the open market is a red flag of sorts. Pugh got $9 million per and most folks around here were glad to see him go.
Fluker only signed a one year deal for like 1.5M
Yes, a one year prove-it deal for a guy trying to establish himself after busting in San Diego. I don't think people around here were viewing Omameh as a reclamation project.
Maybe we should limit his allowed waiver moves?
Are you suggesting he should have held on to him? Or that he shouldnt be trying to add players at all?
Wtf? Are you Omamehs mother? Its the only explanation...And fwiw, Mrs. Omameh, your son fucking sucks so stop whining about him getting dumped for a waiver wire claim. Instead of asking the league to change the rules to protect your son, how about telling him to play better?
Good job DG.
How is this, or Solder's contract for that matter the worst contract in NFL history? Or worse than any contract Sam Bradford has signed for that matter? Or Joe Flacco's? Or Jerrick McKinnon's?
Ive seen you say this several times presumably because you really believe it and it's just a silly thing to say.
Based upon over the cap the Giants may be able to get an additional 5 th round pick
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Another on IR. And the worst contract in nfl history.
Good job DG.
How is this, or Solder's contract for that matter the worst contract in NFL history? Or worse than any contract Sam Bradford has signed for that matter? Or Joe Flacco's? Or Jerrick McKinnon's?
Ive seen you say this several times presumably because you really believe it and it's just a silly thing to say.
Well McKinnon got hurt. Solder is playing as one of the worst tackles in the league and being paid as the highest. Being one of the worst and being paid as the best is the clearest way of being one of the worst contracts ever.
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Cutting Patrick Omameh just before Week 10's games should seal up for the Giants a 4th round 2019 compensatory pick for Justin Pugh.
Should Geno Smith also qualify for the formula in their favor, NYG may also get a 5th or 6th rounder for Devon Kennard.
It was a poor signing and it hurt the team. Thats the real issue and problem.
I think evidence is mounting - in the aggregate, DG has made more poor moves than quality moves to help this team. It really would be a sin to keep him on as GM.
But hey - lets keep playing Eli because it gives us the best chance to win. So says that other horrific hire by DG, Pat Shurmur.
The season keeps getting better and better...
I think you may be right. There are obviously other factors like Pugh and Richberg's PT, whether Geno Smith factors, etc. But this move may free up the Kennard side of the ledger and get us an extra 5th round comp. At the very least I think it guarantees that one of Pugh/Richburg count. I'm sure that was a factor in this decision.
Abrams would know this, makes me think maybe they are planning on claiming Pasztor.
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Another on IR. And the worst contract in nfl history.
Good job DG.
How is this, or Solder's contract for that matter the worst contract in NFL history? Or worse than any contract Sam Bradford has signed for that matter? Or Joe Flacco's? Or Jerrick McKinnon's?
Ive seen you say this several times presumably because you really believe it and it's just a silly thing to say.
Well McKinnon got hurt. Solder is playing as one of the worst tackles in the league and being paid as the highest. Being one of the worst and being paid as the best is the clearest way of being one of the worst contracts ever.
Its not clear at all dep, youre just wrong. Solder plays a premium position and was all but unanimously considered to be the top LT on the market in the offseason. McKinnon is a running back who got 18 million guaranteed who never got more than 600 on the ground. What abput Sammy Watkins? Jordan Reed? Hell Cam Chancellor got 25 million guaranteed and played only 9 games.
Your assertion is just flat out wrong and silly.
I thought that at least Omameh would stay as a backup until the offseason. The history with Giants linemen almost guarantees that Hernandez will go down.
Brown must be looking pretty good.
Good job DG.
But if only we had a more mobile QB.
Many people blasted the Solder signing because many felt he was an average tackle being paid premium money. And so far... he hasnt even been close to average.
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I believe that to be considered or vested for purposes of calculating compensatory picks a player must be on the team for 10 weeks
I think you may be right. There are obviously other factors like Pugh and Richberg's PT, whether Geno Smith factors, etc. But this move may free up the Kennard side of the ledger and get us an extra 5th round comp. At the very least I think it guarantees that one of Pugh/Richburg count. I'm sure that was a factor in this decision.
I believe you are all correct. Now I am happy. I will check OTC to see when they update the projections.
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I believe that to be considered or vested for purposes of calculating compensatory picks a player must be on the team for 10 weeks
I think you may be right. There are obviously other factors like Pugh and Richberg's PT, whether Geno Smith factors, etc. But this move may free up the Kennard side of the ledger and get us an extra 5th round comp. At the very least I think it guarantees that one of Pugh/Richburg count. I'm sure that was a factor in this decision.
I believe you are all correct. Now I am happy. I will check OTC to see when they update the projections.
Yup. Now we dont have to worry as much about Geno Smith calculations messing up Pugh 4 round compensation.
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Yeah if it was Reese I bet Omameh would be starting for another 3 years and Flowers would still be starting at LT...that guy never switched up the roster like Gentlemen is doing.