Great coach. Great football man. Time for him to retire. His approach does not work in today's game.
Let's hope the same is not true of DG.
Disaster???? Maybe I dreamed it, but wasnt Jax in the AFC Championship game last year???? Ill admit they have been on a bad roll, and with BB at QB, well.... but the season still has a ways to go. Just think disaster is a bit strong.
Great coach. Great football man. Time for him to retire. His approach does not work in today's game.
Let's hope the same is not true of DG.
Definitely time for TC. The NFL is not going back to the 80's offensive philosophy of great OL play and running games despite what we read here in the offseason. Time to move on.
Great coach. Great football man. Time for him to retire. His approach does not work in today's game.
Let's hope the same is not true of DG.
This is a disappointing year for Jax. Dallas too. Similar teams really.
Goes to show you how you can win or lose with a good OL. You win and lose with a bad one too as weve seen but people shouldnt ignore that a good OL can only take you so far.
Team building isnt an exact science.
RE: How long is CBS obligated to air this garbage game?
A lot of people were picking Bengals to upset them. I took the saints. Since Ingram came back they seem more complete...but I also took the Falcons and that game is unofficially over. oof
What has CHANGED from last year? Yes, Fournette out for some games, but this team looks totally in the dumpster. What happened? Couldn't be that it was one game NYG played them tough, although that is now looking suspect.
What has CHANGED from last year? Yes, Fournette out for some games, but this team looks totally in the dumpster. What happened? Couldn't be that it was one game NYG played them tough, although that is now looking suspect.
I think Fournette was their offense due to the terrible QB. When he was injured, the team ended up starting the season on a bad note and things spiraled out of control.
Yep, looks great. Running backs are jus so valuable in the NFL in 2018 so it was a no brainer to pick one while having exactly 1 premium player at a premium position on the entire team.
I said falcons d is terrible which it is. Mayfield still has to capitalize, and he sure is doing that. I mainly used the "falcons d is terrible" line because of what fans were saying as a reason why the giants put up a ton of passing stats when the two played a couple weeks back.
What has CHANGED from last year? Yes, Fournette out for some games, but this team looks totally in the dumpster. What happened? Couldn't be that it was one game NYG played them tough, although that is now looking suspect.
Bortles is terrible and their offense is easy to defend against and grind down physically. You get up on them early and they are dead. Their secondary has also been exposed more this year.
Fournette is great but they have no diversity to their offense in terms of deep threats and consistency in the slot. Yeldon provides some receptions out of backfield but he and Fournette on field together takes away either a receiver and or a blocker and allows defenders to keep loading the box.
In comment 14171998 ColHowPepper said:
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What has CHANGED from last year?//////
I think Fournette was their offense due to the terrible QB. When he was injured, the team ended up starting the season on a bad note and things spiraled out of control.
Teams might have solved their defense too.
Jags' d seemed pretty balanced, formidable. Seems like something rotten going on in the locker room. And if, as you say, things spiraling in the wrong direction, Marrone has questions to answer.
Part of it is perhaps the players learning that each year you have to earn your spot as a player and as a team in the league. Nothing that was done last season matters in the current season.
I have to say Bortles, admittedly with all the time in the world, was really precise in his accuracy and touch to his TEs, RBs on swings and screens, even a couple of medium deep throws along the sideline. Seems like he lost his confidence leading to his benching. Moral of the story: openers against 1-7 teams to be can be deceiving. ):
Made it so easy on Cleveland's defense. Atlanta's decision to not involve the running game inside the five yard line was welcomed by Cleveland's defense
What has CHANGED from last year? Yes, Fournette out for some games, but this team looks totally in the dumpster. What happened? Couldn't be that it was one game NYG played them tough, although that is now looking suspect.
Bortles is terrible and their offense is easy to defend against and grind down physically. You get up on them early and they are dead. Their secondary has also been exposed more this year.
Fournette is great but they have no diversity to their offense in terms of deep threats and consistency in the slot. Yeldon provides some receptions out of backfield but he and Fournette on field together takes away either a receiver and or a blocker and allows defenders to keep loading the box.
Their defense has not been good today. Stop blaming Bottles for all their troubles.
I have to say Bortles, admittedly with all the time in the world, was really precise in his accuracy and touch to his TEs, RBs on swings and screens, even a couple of medium deep throws along the sideline. Seems like he lost his confidence leading to his benching. Moral of the story: openers against 1-7 teams to be can be deceiving. ):
That was one of the games this year where I was angrier at the defense than the offense. Bettcher had a questionable game plan that day and should have done a better job once Fournette went out.
What has CHANGED from last year? Yes, Fournette out for some games, but this team looks totally in the dumpster. What happened? Couldn't be that it was one game NYG played them tough, although that is now looking suspect.
Bortles is terrible and their offense is easy to defend against and grind down physically. You get up on them early and they are dead. Their secondary has also been exposed more this year.
Fournette is great but they have no diversity to their offense in terms of deep threats and consistency in the slot. Yeldon provides some receptions out of backfield but he and Fournette on field together takes away either a receiver and or a blocker and allows defenders to keep loading the box.
Their defense has not been good today. Stop blaming Bottles for all their troubles.
Hes 80 percent of their problems. Ill keep blaming him as long as he limits them. Thank you for your insight as always.
That was one of the games this year where I was angrier at the defense than the offense. Bettcher had a questionable game plan that day and should have done a better job once Fournette went out.
Giants' D held the Jags to seven punts on seven possessions in the second half with Fournette out.
Giants' O gave the Jags their only points of the second half with the pick six that was the winning margin.
That was one of the games this year where I was angrier at the defense than the offense. Bettcher had a questionable game plan that day and should have done a better job once Fournette went out.
Giants' D held the Jags to seven punts on seven possessions in the second half with Fournette out.
Giants' O gave the Jags their only points of the second half with the pick six that was the winning margin.
The defense needed to get turnovers. Bettcher ran a softer defense than he usually does against an offense that couldnt find its way out of a paper bag. He should have pressured Bortles more and didnt. The defense needed to score that day and win some field position battles more.
The defense needed to get turnovers. Bettcher ran a softer defense than he usually does against an offense that couldnt find its way out of a paper bag. He should have pressured Bortles more and didnt. The defense needed to score that day and win some field position battles more.
Getting angrier at the defense than at the offense for not scoring crosses a line of absurdity. We can all hope that a new Giants' offense, in the not too distant future, will be a remedy.
The defense needed to get turnovers. Bettcher ran a softer defense than he usually does against an offense that couldnt find its way out of a paper bag. He should have pressured Bortles more and didnt. The defense needed to score that day and win some field position battles more.
Getting angrier at the defense than at the offense for not scoring crosses a line of absurdity. We can all hope that a new Giants' offense, in the not too distant future, will be a remedy.
Welcome to the 2017-2018 Giants seasons. Absurd doesnt begin to describe it.
JCN, agreed. I'll be at bar & probably only watch those two.
Can't ask for much more than that.
They were sooooooooooooo afraid of the cold weather, LOL
But it s NFL Football, if you re a football fan, there are good games here today.
Maybe it s because the Giants aren't revelant and the games have no meaning for them that some feel the apathy expressed here
I don t know, just glad the games still appeal to me, I look forward to Sunday football
But I ve recently retired and have plenty of time to get things done and can justify spending Sundays watching football
What did we do to deserve this?
Saints 15 play opening drive 7-0.
Bengals vs Saints tied at 7
Shocker.
*next week
Shocker.
Actually, no,they are better with McCown. He hasnt thrown an INT yet. So there is progress.
Let's hope the same is not true of DG.
Let's hope the same is not true of DG.
If anything this is on Marrone. Hes lost control of his team and how they play.
Let's hope the same is not true of DG.
Disaster???? Maybe I dreamed it, but wasnt Jax in the AFC Championship game last year???? Ill admit they have been on a bad roll, and with BB at QB, well.... but the season still has a ways to go. Just think disaster is a bit strong.
Seriously think this could be it for him. Definitely a "youre fired" performance from his team so far.
Play davis Webb next week
Triple play of death for a head coach never mind a defensive minded head coach.
Down by 24 to a putrid Bills offense with an off the street Matt Barkley at QB?
Let's hope the same is not true of DG.
Definitely time for TC. The NFL is not going back to the 80's offensive philosophy of great OL play and running games despite what we read here in the offseason. Time to move on.
Meanwhile, this new coach for the Bears might be the right guy for the job.
Let's hope the same is not true of DG.
This is a disappointing year for Jax. Dallas too. Similar teams really.
Goes to show you how you can win or lose with a good OL. You win and lose with a bad one too as weve seen but people shouldnt ignore that a good OL can only take you so far.
Team building isnt an exact science.
If it's either team's TV viewing area, I believe the entire game..........
Something to shoot for.
2018 Giants: CHALLENGE ACCEPTED
Drew Brees is 17-of-19 for 197 yards and three touchdowns
Mitch Trubisky: 13-of-15, 208 yards, 2 TD (+ rushing TD)
Baker Mayfield: 12-of-12, 165 yards, 2 TD
Andrew Luck: 14-of-18, 212 yards, 2 TD
B-O-R-I-N-G.
DOn't come to me for any betting suggestions
I think Fournette was their offense due to the terrible QB. When he was injured, the team ended up starting the season on a bad note and things spiraled out of control.
Teams might have solved their defense too.
Yep, looks great. Running backs are jus so valuable in the NFL in 2018 so it was a no brainer to pick one while having exactly 1 premium player at a premium position on the entire team.
Huh?
Bortles is terrible and their offense is easy to defend against and grind down physically. You get up on them early and they are dead. Their secondary has also been exposed more this year.
Fournette is great but they have no diversity to their offense in terms of deep threats and consistency in the slot. Yeldon provides some receptions out of backfield but he and Fournette on field together takes away either a receiver and or a blocker and allows defenders to keep loading the box.
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What has CHANGED from last year?//////
I think Fournette was their offense due to the terrible QB. When he was injured, the team ended up starting the season on a bad note and things spiraled out of control.
Teams might have solved their defense too.
But what is making it obvious it was the best pick for them, curious
The fourth down play call was odd in my opinion. They put Ryan in shotgun which takes away the element of the sneak
But what is making it obvious it was the best pick for them, curious
Perhaps this thread isn't the place for a debate regarding Saquon vs qb.
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Losing Bilal Powell was a killer.
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What has CHANGED from last year? Yes, Fournette out for some games, but this team looks totally in the dumpster. What happened? Couldn't be that it was one game NYG played them tough, although that is now looking suspect.
Bortles is terrible and their offense is easy to defend against and grind down physically. You get up on them early and they are dead. Their secondary has also been exposed more this year.
Fournette is great but they have no diversity to their offense in terms of deep threats and consistency in the slot. Yeldon provides some receptions out of backfield but he and Fournette on field together takes away either a receiver and or a blocker and allows defenders to keep loading the box.
Their defense has not been good today. Stop blaming Bottles for all their troubles.
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They're awful.
Losing Bilal Powell was a killer.
McGuire is actually pretty good - there's not a huge fall off there.
The Jets need to fire Bowles immediately. He's a terrible coach.
Atlanta had a chance to maybe get on a second half streak, but dropped this one.
That was one of the games this year where I was angrier at the defense than the offense. Bettcher had a questionable game plan that day and should have done a better job once Fournette went out.
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They're awful.
Losing Bilal Powell was a killer.
McGuire is actually pretty good - there's not a huge fall off there.
The Jets need to fire Bowles immediately. He's a terrible coach.
They probably will now. Can't wait to hear Francesser tee off on the Jets tomorrow :-)
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What has CHANGED from last year? Yes, Fournette out for some games, but this team looks totally in the dumpster. What happened? Couldn't be that it was one game NYG played them tough, although that is now looking suspect.
Bortles is terrible and their offense is easy to defend against and grind down physically. You get up on them early and they are dead. Their secondary has also been exposed more this year.
Fournette is great but they have no diversity to their offense in terms of deep threats and consistency in the slot. Yeldon provides some receptions out of backfield but he and Fournette on field together takes away either a receiver and or a blocker and allows defenders to keep loading the box.
Their defense has not been good today. Stop blaming Bottles for all their troubles.
Hes 80 percent of their problems. Ill keep blaming him as long as he limits them. Thank you for your insight as always.
The cure for that is playing the Giants.
Crazy how good they are at home. Looked like a totally different team on the road.
Davis Webb is horrible. Can't even get into a game like this.
That was one of the games this year where I was angrier at the defense than the offense. Bettcher had a questionable game plan that day and should have done a better job once Fournette went out.
Giants' D held the Jags to seven punts on seven possessions in the second half with Fournette out.
Giants' O gave the Jags their only points of the second half with the pick six that was the winning margin.
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That was one of the games this year where I was angrier at the defense than the offense. Bettcher had a questionable game plan that day and should have done a better job once Fournette went out.
Giants' D held the Jags to seven punts on seven possessions in the second half with Fournette out.
Giants' O gave the Jags their only points of the second half with the pick six that was the winning margin.
The defense needed to get turnovers. Bettcher ran a softer defense than he usually does against an offense that couldnt find its way out of a paper bag. He should have pressured Bortles more and didnt. The defense needed to score that day and win some field position battles more.
The defense needed to get turnovers. Bettcher ran a softer defense than he usually does against an offense that couldnt find its way out of a paper bag. He should have pressured Bortles more and didnt. The defense needed to score that day and win some field position battles more.
Getting angrier at the defense than at the offense for not scoring crosses a line of absurdity. We can all hope that a new Giants' offense, in the not too distant future, will be a remedy.
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The defense needed to get turnovers. Bettcher ran a softer defense than he usually does against an offense that couldnt find its way out of a paper bag. He should have pressured Bortles more and didnt. The defense needed to score that day and win some field position battles more.
Getting angrier at the defense than at the offense for not scoring crosses a line of absurdity. We can all hope that a new Giants' offense, in the not too distant future, will be a remedy.
Welcome to the 2017-2018 Giants seasons. Absurd doesnt begin to describe it.
The Jags D has not this year. Embarrassing.