- Progression from Hill, Carter, and Hernandez
- A sustained run game. If we run the ball 30 times, I’ll be stoked.
- An Engram sighting. He’s back and healthy. He needs to contribute more.
- Aggressive Shurmur. Going for it on 4th downs. Down field shots. No give up plays.
- attacking Mullens. I don’t even care if they break a big play. Let’s hit the qb early and often.
That said, I'd like to see signs the team is picking it up. Improvement. Responding to the coach. I was watching TEN vs. NE and it was refreshing to see a Titans team that played hard and enjoyed the battle. They were fired up and playing as a team.
It's an odd thing - but the Giants have no intensity and this has plagued them for years - even at times under Tom with his Corporate Giants. These Giants do not play as a team. They do not get pumped for each other. They do not *appear* to enjoy the battle. There was a lot of talk about culture change, but I haven't seen it yet. To me, this is the rotten aspect of the team showing on gameday - the bad culture - there's no intensity or drive to be great. A few players have it, but it's gotta permeate the entire team.
Just some idol thoughts as we approach the game - win or lose, coming out of the bye I'd really like to see a scrappy football team that enjoys competing. You can't control talent, but you can control how much heart and passion you play the game with.
That said, I expect another embarrassing loss.
For those of us not fans of DG and the Shurminator we need a bunch of embarrassments for Mara to move on. And even so, I understand it’s highly unlikely they’re getting shit canned after one year. Even despite the evidence neither are quite good at their jobs.
I'd also like to see continued good punt returns from Henderson, Engram to stop the drops, and a few catches from J. Davis. It's all about evaluating players for next year at this point, and unfortunately has been for at least several weeks. That of course has also been true for several years.
For those of us not fans of DG and the Shurminator we need a bunch of embarrassments for Mara to move on. And even so, I understand it’s highly unlikely they’re getting shit canned after one year. Even despite the evidence neither are quite good at their jobs.
Despicable. You’d rather have embarrassing losses so the coach and GM get fired rather than them getting this turned around, play better and give us some hope for the future? Classic.
Just more proof that there is a rather large contingent on this site that would rather be “right” than have this team succeed. You don’t think Shurmur or Gettleman are any good so you hope for complete disaster to prove yourself right. FFS man
Please go root for some other team. Thank you.
That said, I'd like to see signs the team is picking it up. Improvement. Responding to the coach. I was watching TEN vs. NE and it was refreshing to see a Titans team that played hard and enjoyed the battle. They were fired up and playing as a team.
It's an odd thing - but the Giants have no intensity and this has plagued them for years - even at times under Tom with his Corporate Giants. These Giants do not play as a team. They do not get pumped for each other. They do not *appear* to enjoy the battle. There was a lot of talk about culture change, but I haven't seen it yet. To me, this is the rotten aspect of the team showing on gameday - the bad culture - there's no intensity or drive to be great. A few players have it, but it's gotta permeate the entire team.
Just some idol thoughts as we approach the game - win or lose, coming out of the bye I'd really like to see a scrappy football team that enjoys competing. You can't control talent, but you can control how much heart and passion you play the game with.
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A non competitive no show loss.
For those of us not fans of DG and the Shurminator we need a bunch of embarrassments for Mara to move on. And even so, I understand it’s highly unlikely they’re getting shit canned after one year. Even despite the evidence neither are quite good at their jobs.
Despicable. You’d rather have embarrassing losses so the coach and GM get fired rather than them getting this turned around, play better and give us some hope for the future? Classic.
Just more proof that there is a rather large contingent on this site that would rather be “right” than have this team succeed. You don’t think Shurmur or Gettleman are any good so you hope for complete disaster to prove yourself right. FFS man
So you’re content with half ass measures that have been plaguing this franchise? Half ass GM “search”? Half ass coaching hire? Half ass evaluation to go “all in on Eli”? Spending precious cap space haphazardly on shitty FA’s?
Ok.
Until Mara steps out of his circle of friends comfort zone and brings in new blood (yes McAdoo likely scarred him), especially at GM, this thing will continue to wallow among the nfl dregs.
Eli will probably be retired with a phony press conference like the one they did with Coughlin after they fired him.
The GM and HC are going nowhere. Neither of them has shown the skill set to fix what is broken going forward. They both think they are win now guys but they seem to lose now guys. If they do draft a QB it will be at least 2 or 3 years before that QB is ready to compete for the playoffs and that's if they pick the right guy. More than likely they know that and will try to sign a QB to win now which will continue to make things worse and Chris Mara will still be a major vote in picking the players.
The Giants have completely lost their way and it's going to get even worse than it is now.
You mean Jamon E. Huevos?
The absolute worst thing - I mean utter fool's gold - would be for Eli to play well, get a W, and create fuel for Mara and his band dolts to re-visit the idea of keeping Eli for 2019.
Because we are in the spot of the Eli cycle where he's due to have one of those games where he turns back the hands of time...
Same here.
Well that and for Booger's mic and trolley to both malfunction. Not seeing or hearing him would be a nice bonus to winning he game.
Dallas has some good young defenders while the Eagles DL still flashes dominance (but boy did they get worked by Elliott).
We really need to hit in this next draft and FA. While 2019 seems unrealistic, there is absolutely no reason starting in 2020 we cant go for the division again.
I would also be giddy if Brown can develop into a viable RG fit for us. Gives us so much more flexibility in the draft to focus on tackle and center
Huh? From what I've seen the Giants defense has kept it close in most games until the 4th quarter (except the Eagles game), at which point they get physically/mentally/emotionally drained and allow multiple touchdowns, at which point the offense wakes up in garbage time and brings the team back in the final minutes to only lose by one score.
To management - ANY season under 6 losses should = FREE PARKING for the next regular season.
On the other hand it s always fun to see your team well and win.
If it was game 15,or 16 ina lost season, easy hope fora loss.
For tonight, I don t know what I m hoping for. Just watch the game without the normal passion I feel for winning I guess and not really be upset with a loss.
WRs - Jawill Davis, Corey Coleman, Quadree Henderson - would be huge if one or more of these guys can step forward as a legit PR and/or 3rd/4th WR.
OL - Jamon Brown as a potential starting RG; Wheeler/Pulley/Evan Brown/Mihalik as depth
DL - I think 2 young guys (Tomlinson/Hill) have 2 spots locked up for the next 3-4+ years, can McIntosh factor into the other starting DE role? Or at least show enough ability to backup one or more positions along the DL going forward.
LB - More playing time and sacks/hits from Carter. Potential depth and/or nickel LB out of Tae Davis. He's been a liability in coverage, but some further development from Goodson could be big too.
DB - After WR, probably the 2nd most exciting position in terms of young guys battling: Hamilton, Haley, Lippett, etc. Hopefully someone demonstrates the ability to be a slot CB and/or solid outside CB depth at least.
And yes, when you're looking at positional battles like this, it's essentially a preseason game.
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A non competitive no show loss.
For those of us not fans of DG and the Shurminator we need a bunch of embarrassments for Mara to move on. And even so, I understand it’s highly unlikely they’re getting shit canned after one year. Even despite the evidence neither are quite good at their jobs.
Despicable. You’d rather have embarrassing losses so the coach and GM get fired rather than them getting this turned around, play better and give us some hope for the future? Classic.
Just more proof that there is a rather large contingent on this site that would rather be “right” than have this team succeed. You don’t think Shurmur or Gettleman are any good so you hope for complete disaster to prove yourself right. FFS man
Jeez overreact much! I think what he is getting at is the future and while I really don’t want to tank I have zero confidence in DG and PS to turn this around. DG has bombed as a GM and PS shows no ability t9 adapt or even to help the O-line with his scheme. When you take a 3-13 team and make it considerably worse than jobs should be on the line. If we stay with this current FO we will just be looking for a new GM and coach a year from now.
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...than the first quarter. By then it's usually over.
Huh? From what I've seen the Giants defense has kept it close in most games until the 4th quarter (except the Eagles game), at which point they get physically/mentally/emotionally drained and allow multiple touchdowns, at which point the offense wakes up in garbage time and brings the team back in the final minutes to only lose by one score.
More than a 3 point lead is insurmountable for this pathetic Offense to overcome, they only score in garbage time and usually save their WORST for prime time!
Expectations remain very low.
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A non competitive no show loss.
For those of us not fans of DG and the Shurminator we need a bunch of embarrassments for Mara to move on. And even so, I understand it’s highly unlikely they’re getting shit canned after one year. Even despite the evidence neither are quite good at their jobs.
Despicable. You’d rather have embarrassing losses so the coach and GM get fired rather than them getting this turned around, play better and give us some hope for the future? Classic.
Just more proof that there is a rather large contingent on this site that would rather be “right” than have this team succeed. You don’t think Shurmur or Gettleman are any good so you hope for complete disaster to prove yourself right. FFS man
Do you actually think that what some guy posts on a website has an impact on how well the Giants play? Fans can think and say whatever they wish, from my standpoint. I couldn't care less. I'm interested in how well the team performs and the types of decisions made by the front office. Posters can say or think whatever. Makes no difference.
I expect more of the same. Two very bad teams playing very poorly.
Too bad this game means nothing compared to past years!
Ray, isn't a simple scenario that if we lose, we pick #1 and if we win, we pick #3?
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to post the draft order.
Ray, isn't a simple scenario that if we lose, we pick #1 and if we win, we pick #3?
that's how the Giants would appear, either as prospective #1 with a win and #3 with a loss. If they win, they will still have a 2-game weaker SOS than ARI.
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to post the draft order.
Ray, isn't a simple scenario that if we lose, we pick #1 and if we win, we pick #3?
that's how the Giants would appear, either as prospective #1 with a win and #3 with a loss. If they win, they will still have a 2-game weaker SOS than ARI.
Backwards? NOTE the emphasis in your reply.
That's what I thought. And thank you for doing the dirty work.