Brown to start tonight at RG

At least they're willing to keep changing it up and see if they can find something.

Greco should have been moved back to OC and Pulley should be removed. He's awful.

...going to focus on. Let's see if Eli can step up in the pocket when the rush comes from the outside.....

back to center? It seemed like he was making the calls from guard.

If Brown plays from here on out, it would be huge. We could re-sign and then only have two starting spots to fill on the O-Line (C and RT).

now release Pulley and move Greco back to center.

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If Brown plays from here on out, it would be huge. We could re-sign and then only have two starting spots to fill on the O-Line (C and RT).

This would be a huge development and exactly what this team desperately needs. That would at least lock down both guard spots long term. The Giants could then focus on center and RT in the draft/free agency plus draft a developmental LT to groom behind Solder.

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If Brown plays from here on out, it would be huge. We could re-sign and then only have two starting spots to fill on the O-Line (C and RT).

Man, I'm fucking exhausted

*plays well
*we could re-sign him

I'm hopeful.

and thought he would replace Pulley now but it seems they like Pulley at center. Did Pulley look OK at center the last few games?

Whose call is it?

which probably isn't much since they both suck, but Pulley is 25 and a restricted FA after this season whereas Greco is 33 and an UFA.

So if Pulley can handle the assignments, it might be (marginally) better long term if they keep him in at OC for the slight chance he develops into a capable center, even if it's just as depth.

Brown should help the team run the ball better. That is better than what we have gotten out of the rest. That opens up play-action and makes the offense functional (I hope).

Pasztor on waivers? NFL office closed on Veterans day?

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and thought he would replace Pulley now but it seems they like Pulley at center. Did Pulley look OK at center the last few games?

Pulley was terrible against WSH. Center is the one spot Greco can play passably.

I guess I understand thinking Greco has less of a future here and wanting to see if Pulley is worth a shit - but he's been really bad. I don't see anything there right now. Several missed assignments and pre-snap problems.

Get ready.

7 sacks last week and we are starting a brand new OL. Okey dokey...

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Greco should have been moved back to OC and Pulley should be removed. He's awful.

Pulley’s at C. Dont like it either.

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which probably isn't much since they both suck, but Pulley is 25 and a restricted FA after this season whereas Greco is 33 and an UFA. So if Pulley can handle the assignments, it might be (marginally) better long term if they keep him in at OC for the slight chance he develops into a capable center, even if it's just as depth.

Good post

if you are replacing Omameh with him!

As for locking down the position, the guy has not played a single down yet for us...

He will look great, even if only average, like Beason did....

Here is the kicker.....let's say he is an upgrade over Jerry/Omameh, and we want him.....he is an UFA next year, looking for that post rookie contract.....in a league starving for some semblance of talent in the OL, the Giants would probably have to overpay him also, just to keep him.....that's if, he even wants to be here....

But let's see him play first before we cross that bridge....

And I agree.....put Greco back at center....

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and thought he would replace Pulley now but it seems they like Pulley at center. Did Pulley look OK at center the last few games?

Did Greco play center last year? I must have missed that!

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if you are replacing Omameh with him! As for locking down the position, the guy has not played a single down yet for us... He will look great, even if only average, like Beason did.... Here is the kicker.....let's say he is an upgrade over Jerry/Omameh, and we want him.....he is an UFA next year, looking for that post rookie contract.....in a league starving for some semblance of talent in the OL, the Giants would probably have to overpay him also, just to keep him.....that's if, he even wants to be here.... But let's see him play first before we cross that bridge.... And I agree.....put Greco back at center....

If he plays well and they have to overpay to keep him, it’s still better than signing the next Jerry or Omameh. I’d rather them take a chance before giving him money, if he sucks then he’s just another name that will quickly be forgotten.

Go with the younger player. Fuck Greco.

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Go with the younger player. Fuck Greco.

Who cares how old he is? He sucks.

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In comment 14172809 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Go with the younger player. Fuck Greco. Who cares how old he is? He sucks.

They both suck. But since Pulley is only 25, there's at least a small chance there's some untapped potential. Greco just blows.

1st Post. Long time reader. Sure are a lot of Coaches on this site. JETS Job will be open soon. Heres your chance!!

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1st Post. Long time reader. Sure are a lot of Coaches on this site. JETS Job will be open soon. Heres your chance!!

What?

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In comment 14172809 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Go with the younger player. Fuck Greco. Who cares how old he is? He sucks.

And Greco doesn’t? Pulley had a decent rookie season and started 16 games last year while playing injured. You’ve made the decision Pulley is worthless off what? A game? He may indeed suck but go with the younger player with starting experience over the old crusty vet with hardly any 10 times out of 10 imo.

Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic

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Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic

I disagree. This ships already sunk. Now the salvage crews are circling.

No way they resign him after this year. I understood Pulley played well for the Chargers. Better to build off him or at least see if he's got a future here. If he does the Oline except Solder is young. Get a RT in the off season and maybe we have something.

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No way they resign him after this year. I understood Pulley played well for the Chargers. Better to build off him or at least see if he's got a future here. If he does the Oline except Solder is young. Get a RT in the off season and maybe we have something.

Did he? Did he play well for the Chargers? I mean they waived him, after all.

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In comment 14172813 arcarsenal said: Quote: In comment 14172809 ZGiants98 said: Quote: Go with the younger player. Fuck Greco. Who cares how old he is? He sucks. And Greco doesn’t? Pulley had a decent rookie season and started 16 games last year while playing injured. You’ve made the decision Pulley is worthless off what? A game? He may indeed suck but go with the younger player with starting experience over the old crusty vet with hardly any 10 times out of 10 imo.

Actually, no - Greco has played passably @ OC. It's the one spot he can play.

I've made the decision that Pulley is worthless based on the fact that he's shown nothing to suggest otherwise.

Why should anyone care that he started 16 games last year? How many games did Omameh start?

We have guys starting 16 games on this line every year who are awful. Tells me nothing.

If we want to evaluate the QB position, we should be at least trying to put the best OL we can out there.

Pulley isn't good. You'll figure it out soon enough.

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In comment 14172844 Blue21 said: Quote: No way they resign him after this year. I understood Pulley played well for the Chargers. Better to build off him or at least see if he's got a future here. If he does the Oline except Solder is young. Get a RT in the off season and maybe we have something. Did he? Did he play well for the Chargers? I mean they waived him, after all.

IF you trust PFF, I think he started off well last season (first 3-4 games). From most reports though, his play tailed off, putting it mildly, after that.

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Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic

lol....although, this is how bad teams discover players and improve. Happens all the time...........

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now release Pulley and move Greco back to center.

Last week the talking heads were reporting that Pulley would stay at Center.

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In comment 14172844 Blue21 said: Quote: No way they resign him after this year. I understood Pulley played well for the Chargers. Better to build off him or at least see if he's got a future here. If he does the Oline except Solder is young. Get a RT in the off season and maybe we have something. Did he? Did he play well for the Chargers? I mean they waived him, after all.

To be honest only what I read in an article. He started 16 games for them and was hurt the latter part of the year.

did perform at an acceptable level for the Chargers, but they saw a chance to upgrade with Pouncey and drafted a guy who could replace Pouncey down the road.
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'The ship be sinking.'-Michael Ray Richardson.

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'The ship be sinking.'-Michael Ray Richardson.

Spelled Micheal..😎

Evan Brown should be given some playing time over Pulley who isn't going to be part of the future either. It's not a great sign that Greco was handling the calls at RG when Pulley has been here since the beginning of the season.

I think the Giants do like Evan Brown since they have cut several players when they need a roster spot but he has spent the entire season on the roster. Brown could very well be the future at center or at least a serviceable backup. Pulley has proven that he isn't a starting caliber player but hopefully Brown will surprise. This team desperately needs another Seubert/O'Hara type.

A 49ers castoff is going to start in less than 2 weeks, truly a sad state of affairs....

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A 49ers castoff is going to start in less than 2 weeks, truly a sad state of affairs....

Except he's from the Rams...

Pulley (#73) is no road grader, but seemed more than serviceable. Suggest watching in slo-mo. Decent footwork & hand extension.
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Seven years and counting we have not been able to get a decent OL together. Ruined ELI's career and turned a great team into a shit hole.

Seven years and counting we have not been able to get a decent OL together. Ruined ELI"s career and turned a great team into a shit hole.

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In comment 14172851 Anakim said: Quote: In comment 14172844 Blue21 said: Quote: No way they resign him after this year. I understood Pulley played well for the Chargers. Better to build off him or at least see if he's got a future here. If he does the Oline except Solder is young. Get a RT in the off season and maybe we have something. Did he? Did he play well for the Chargers? I mean they waived him, after all. IF you trust PFF, I think he started off well last season (first 3-4 games). From most reports though, his play tailed off, putting it mildly, after that.

Yeah I think he was a top C via PFF in the beginning of the year but wound up finishing dead last amongst starters.

Bart Oates used to work out at my gym and was very approachable. Nice guy and he liked to talk football especially the OL. Without saying it, it was pretty clear he thought the OL was terrible 3-4 years ago and would never be any good. I once asked him if someone watching a game on tv can tell if a particular lineman was at fault for the lousy play and he said no way. He said a fan has no idea what the player was asked to do so you couldn’t tell who screwed up.

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1st Post. Long time reader. Sure are a lot of Coaches on this site. JETS Job will be open soon. Heres your chance!!

With a nice 1 win season going on, a lot of people here probably could have done a better job.