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Eli needs a good showing tonight

EJJ : 11/12/2018 4:40 pm
IMO if Eli comes out and shits the bed they have to bench him if not next week they need to at least move Lauletta to number 2 and get him ready.
I don't think they have to win for him to continue to start but he has to elevate his play and not be the reason they loose. We all know the line is what it is BUT he can't look like dog shit again after a bye week without some kind of change?

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arcarsenal : 11/12/2018 4:41 pm : link
It shouldn't matter whether he plays well or doesn't. He's not the future. Lauletta should play ASAP.
Eli needs to be on the bench.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 11/12/2018 4:42 pm : link
It's over. Let's see what Lauletta has got.
It's been said that Eli needs to be on the bench pretty much....  
Britt in VA : 11/12/2018 4:44 pm : link
every week for the past year. He may or may not be. It's coming to an end, but enough of the declarations.

It will happen when it happens.
The proclamation from fans  
dep026 : 11/12/2018 4:45 pm : link
Is pretty entertaining.
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longlive#10 : 11/12/2018 4:45 pm : link
In comment 14173091 arcarsenal said:
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It shouldn't matter whether he plays well or doesn't. He's not the future. Lauletta should play ASAP.


If Lauletta is the future then we are all fucked.

And even if he was why would you wanna subject him to this? No QB is succeeding with this team.
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EricJ : 11/12/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14173099 longlive#10 said:
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If Lauletta is the future then we are all fucked.

And even if he was why would you wanna subject him to this? No QB is succeeding with this team.


The ONLY rational answer that I would have for you is this...
If Lauletta ends up being our starter next season, he will still be doing it behind a line that is sub par. We may as well get him used to what life is going to be like during a lost season.

if you recall, Eli came in after (5 games??) his rookie year and the rest of the way that was nothing more than just practice.

If the new line can give him .75 seconds longer in the pocket  
giant24 : 11/12/2018 4:57 pm : link
and maybe open a hole or two Eli will be good.

Watching games this weekend Seattle - Rams, Cowboys - Eagles, Steelers - Panthers - actual holes for the running back to go through and the qb's getting sometimes 5 seconds to throw the ball!!
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arcarsenal : 11/12/2018 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14173099 longlive#10 said:
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In comment 14173091 arcarsenal said:


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It shouldn't matter whether he plays well or doesn't. He's not the future. Lauletta should play ASAP.



If Lauletta is the future then we are all fucked.

And even if he was why would you wanna subject him to this? No QB is succeeding with this team.


If you can give me one actual way that playing Eli Manning benefits this franchise at this point, I'd love to hear it.
I have no idea how the Giants should handle  
arniefez : 11/12/2018 5:00 pm : link
their QB transition. Watching the games yesterday I think Eli is still better than half the QB's in the NFL. But I think his time with the Giants will end after this year. The owners and the people the owners are weak and worried about fan reaction and media reaction. Especially the Mara brothers. They cave quickly.

As far as seeing Lauletta this year behind this line. Yes I think that is a good idea. All rookie QB's take their lumps, take a pounding, even the HOFers like Aikman or Peyton or Eli. May as well find out how Lauletta will handle it and if he has a chance to at least be a good back up if not more.
the people the owners hired  
arniefez : 11/12/2018 5:01 pm : link
that should have said
He’s done  
Les in TO : 11/12/2018 5:09 pm : link
He will play until the giants are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and then they will start Lauletta. You can bet your ass how it is handled has already been vetted all the way up to the owners and Pat Hanlon and his team have already carefully crafted speaking notes for Shurmur to explain the change so the fanboys don’t riot again
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I am Ninja : 11/12/2018 5:09 pm : link
needs it for what? hes done. we're done. watch other games. we are a joke. and a large part of it is because our qb is so limited.
Hope Eli  
Thinblueline : 11/12/2018 5:10 pm : link
Throws four interceptions tonight, I want to see What Lauletta has...
RE: Hope Eli  
Anakim : 11/12/2018 5:11 pm : link
In comment 14173132 Thinblueline said:
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Throws four interceptions tonight, I want to see What Lauletta has...


What the hell are you talking about? You're going to see Lauletta this season regardless. The season's over.
Eli is in the past, not the future.  
Reese's Pieces : 11/12/2018 5:13 pm : link
The only good that can be obtained from the rest of this season is to find a starting quarter back for the future, or at least to look like we were finding for one.
jets  
jurban : 11/12/2018 5:16 pm : link
will be having fire sale....kick the tires on davis webb????
I'd like to see Eli finish his career  
Metnut : 11/12/2018 5:18 pm : link
above .500 as a starter. It could really make a difference with his HOF chances.

jags  
jurban : 11/12/2018 5:18 pm : link
lets try bortles...he can scramble
eli  
jurban : 11/12/2018 5:20 pm : link
love what hes done for this franchise..i think he comes up a little short for hall of fame
Who are they benching him for?  
Simms11 : 11/12/2018 5:22 pm : link
Tanney? I’m sure Lauletta will not be active again tonight. Anyway, Lauletta will get his chance sometime this year. It’s not happening yet. If and when the agiants are mathematically eliminated from playoff contention, you can be rest assured that they’ll be getting the back ups ready to play in games.
Only reason to play Lauletta is to tank for draft position  
widmerseyebrow : 11/12/2018 5:30 pm : link
"Seeing what he's got" is for the people in the stands, not for the coaches who have seen him play in practice and have not seen enough to even elevate him to backup.

He's more than likely not the future and he was drafted to sit for at least a year. Us sucking this year doesn't all of a sudden make him a first rounder who's turn has come.
Eli needs a good showing for what?  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/12/2018 5:34 pm : link
That ship has sailed. I just want him to not get clobbered and look like a fool because he's behind a sieve for an offensive line. I want to just move on to the next era of Giants' football and put this nightmare to bed. I thank Eli for the wonderful memories and times he has given me. He doesn't deserve this shit from the team, the fans or the media. I'd just like to see him drive off into the sunset with respect
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DavidinBMNY : 11/12/2018 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14173091 arcarsenal said:
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It shouldn't matter whether he plays well or doesn't. He's not the future. Lauletta should play ASAP.


How about little things like
- We should all want to see Eli go out on a high note
- Win 1 game just win 1
- And I've said this before - how about 1 in a row?


RE: Only reason to play Lauletta is to tank for draft position  
christian : 11/12/2018 5:42 pm : link
In comment 14173151 widmerseyebrow said:
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"Seeing what he's got" is for the people in the stands, not for the coaches who have seen him play in practice and have not seen enough to even elevate him to backup.

He's more than likely not the future and he was drafted to sit for at least a year. Us sucking this year doesn't all of a sudden make him a first rounder who's turn has come.


Uhm, it's not like the Manning led Giants are threatening to rake up the Ws.
I think Eli is officially on notice  
BlackLight : 11/12/2018 5:43 pm : link
that tonight, it's now or never.
hopefully  
PaulBlakeTSU : 11/12/2018 5:44 pm : link
the 49ers blitz a lot. Eli has put up great numbers against the blitz as it takes defenders out of coverage and he'll have the same amount of nonexistent time to throw as he would if the defense rushes 4 and drops the rest in coverage as what happens now.

Would love to see Eli  
BBelle21 : 11/12/2018 5:48 pm : link
And the Giants go on a win streak. I’m with Odell. Win every game. Bring Eli back for his final year. I see no reason why he can’t continue to fight for his job and the fans root for him.
Thanks Eli  
XBRONX : 11/12/2018 5:54 pm : link
you are the past.
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arcarsenal : 11/12/2018 6:00 pm : link
In comment 14173161 DavidinBMNY said:
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In comment 14173091 arcarsenal said:


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It shouldn't matter whether he plays well or doesn't. He's not the future. Lauletta should play ASAP.



How about little things like
- We should all want to see Eli go out on a high note
- Win 1 game just win 1
- And I've said this before - how about 1 in a row?



The odds of Eli going out on a high note are going to continue to diminish the longer we keep trotting him out there.

We've won just 4 times in his last 20+ starts.

There's no reason why that is going to change. We can keep putting him out there week after week, the results are going to continue to be poor.

There's just no benefit now or long-term. I can't think of a single one.
Theses Eli bashers are the  
Cariboo : 11/12/2018 6:06 pm : link
Same pathetic male that has mother issues. Or they have yet to reach puberty.
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arcarsenal : 11/12/2018 6:09 pm : link
In comment 14173182 Cariboo said:
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Same pathetic male that has mother issues. Or they have yet to reach puberty.


Maybe learn the English language before wasting bandwidth on Jr. High-level insults.

Thanks!
RE: Hope Eli  
Chris in Philly : 11/12/2018 6:13 pm : link
In comment 14173132 Thinblueline said:
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Throws four interceptions tonight, I want to see What Lauletta has...


You’re a great fan!
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dep026 : 11/12/2018 6:16 pm : link
In comment 14173187 Chris in Philly said:
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In comment 14173132 Thinblueline said:


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Throws four interceptions tonight, I want to see What Lauletta has...



You’re a great fan!


I am not sure he classifies as a fan. The fact people rooting for him to fail is just something.
Again, Eli is not geting benched  
UESBLUE : 11/12/2018 6:19 pm : link
this season. It got the coach fired and turned the fans on the team last season. Total PR shitshow. No chance of Mara going back there.
I will root for Eli to win  
BBelle21 : 11/12/2018 6:19 pm : link
Until he’s no longer a Giant. I’m stubborn. So bite me
Who cares  
Giants : 11/12/2018 6:22 pm : link
who the QB is.Yes the Eli era is over but with the OL shitting the bed every game it does not matter who is at QB.Barkley is great running back has this OL done him any favors. Yes its time for new QB but do not expect anything to change until they get a OL that can play. I'm so tired of putting up with this crap. This makes seven straight years of horrific play from the Giants OL
The Eli era  
Cariboo : 11/12/2018 6:24 pm : link
Is not over!! Baby steps my friends!
RE: The Eli era  
RottenApple : 11/12/2018 6:32 pm : link
In comment 14173202 Cariboo said:
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Is not over!! Baby steps my friends!


It’s long overdue. He’s afraid of his wimpy shadow.
Eli is a great Giant who led us to 2 Super Bowls  
PatersonPlank : 11/12/2018 6:38 pm : link
and is frankly still the best QB on the roster (by a long margin). The people wishing for him to fail are idiots.

Also there is a big difference between when Eli came in during 2004 and now. Eli was the #1 pick, clearly the next Giants QB. Lauletta is lucky if he makes the team at all next year, since the Giants will likely draft Hebert. We only need 1 developmental QB on the roster.
RE: I have no idea how the Giants should handle  
micky : 11/12/2018 6:39 pm : link
In comment 14173115 arniefez said:
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their QB transition. Watching the games yesterday I think Eli is still better than half the QB's in the NFL. But I think his time with the Giants will end after this year. The owners and the people the owners are weak and worried about fan reaction and media reaction. Especially the Mara brothers. They cave quickly.

As far as seeing Lauletta this year behind this line. Yes I think that is a good idea. All rookie QB's take their lumps, take a pounding, even the HOFers like Aikman or Peyton or Eli. May as well find out how Lauletta will handle it and if he has a chance to at least be a good back up if not more.


Yes Mara is media and fan driven on decision esp w/ Eli
Eli is Not the future?  
5BowlsSoon : 11/12/2018 6:42 pm : link
He’s only 38.......
RE: Eli is Not the future?  
micky : 11/12/2018 6:45 pm : link
In comment 14173217 5BowlsSoon said:
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He’s only 38.......


Yup..they may extend him to whatever how long eli says so

Hopefully til he's 75 or 80 years old
It’s horrible to say, but the worst thing for this  
RottenApple : 11/12/2018 6:46 pm : link
organization is having Eli looking somewhat decent tonight. The senile GM and “coach” with 10 career wins will hijack another season proclaiming Eli is fine, just look at the San Francisco game. Meanwhile, the gutless owner will be concentrating on his PSLs.
RE: He’s done  
ColHowPepper : 11/12/2018 6:49 pm : link
In comment 14173130 Les in TO said:
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He will play until the giants are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs and then they will start Lauletta. You can bet your ass how it is handled has already been vetted all the way up to the owners and Pat Hanlon and his team have already carefully crafted speaking notes for Shurmur to explain the change so the fanboys don’t riot again
Les, this is a great post, but maybe inadvertently so. To say this organization, this corporate-like ownership, has 'vetted' anything is to imbue it with a notion of process and professionalism, which is illusory. Carefully crafted, as in spin, I can buy that.

But the best part is
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to explain the change so the fanboys don't riot again
. This is beautiful, and spot on. Because those fan boys, including those notable posters here who still are, as well as those who have leapt off the wagon, are the same whom the craven and spineless Mara Tech couldn't stand up to when the cards were on the table.

This dog don't hunt no more: it's the combination of a shit-stained OL and a QB whose time has come and gone, yes, I think we can agree, gone>>>accelerated by that OL, but he does not have the skill set, athleticism at this point in his career, or quick cognitive skills playing behind a NYG OL to make the team competitive. Hence the 4 - 20 record these past season .5
He's had one good game  
Thunderstruck27 : 11/12/2018 6:50 pm : link
All year. Why would he show up now? Is he getting younger?
eli  
jurban : 11/12/2018 6:59 pm : link
bingo
We need to do  
Joey in VA : 11/12/2018 7:05 pm : link
What I've been begging this stupid coach to do, run the god damn football more than 30% of the time. We pass more than any team in the league, it's absolutely mystifying to me that our horrid OL and up and down QB are asked to carry this offense by throwing 70% of the time.
RE: He's had one good game  
rocco8112 : 11/12/2018 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14173229 Thunderstruck27 said:
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All year. Why would he show up now? Is he getting younger?


I hope Eli lights it up and they win. I do not expect that to happen, but dare to dream.

Not to defend Eli, but the Giants were one 63 yard miss away from Eli's best game in awhile, against a Texan team that is now a winning team, and 30 plus point output with two 4th quarter TD'S for a comeback win. I know this team sucks, but who knows what happens if that kick misses, that was a brutal loss.
RE: We need to do  
dep026 : 11/12/2018 7:07 pm : link
In comment 14173243 Joey in VA said:
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What I've been begging this stupid coach to do, run the god damn football more than 30% of the time. We pass more than any team in the league, it's absolutely mystifying to me that our horrid OL and up and down QB are asked to carry this offense by throwing 70% of the time.


If Eli is going to have any success, you are 100% spot on. I wouldnt mind Gallman getting a lot of burn too.
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dep026 : 11/12/2018 7:08 pm : link
In comment 14173245 rocco8112 said:
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All year. Why would he show up now? Is he getting younger?



I hope Eli lights it up and they win. I do not expect that to happen, but dare to dream.

Not to defend Eli, but the Giants were one 63 yard miss away from Eli's best game in awhile, against a Texan team that is now a winning team, and 30 plus point output with two 4th quarter TD'S for a comeback win. I know this team sucks, but who knows what happens if that kick misses, that was a brutal loss.


That was against Carolina not Houston.
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