Even with Odell's drop. Another running play where Barkley is hit behind the line of scrimmage. Then, another 3rd down pass that is nothing more than a surrender.
Again. Beckham is a pile of shit. If I watch more than a quarter of this I deserve the agita and aggravation.
Thanks John Mara. You and the rest of your family couldnt run a lemonade stand.
He's a pile of shit?
You need to settle down.
Fair enough. My disgust over this season has run over. But Ivme never had a harsh word for the guy before this Ever. All the crap he gets is over blown. But st this point IMO this team would have been a lot better off w Zack Martin over him in every way. Dont think hes worth the money. I dont care about the off field stuff. The next great WR who brings his team to the championship will be the first IMO.
few nice runs by Barkley won't get it done. We have no downfield passing game, which means we need 10 plays just to get into FG range. The 49ers aren't even blitzing.
might be a lost year for EE. But to get a tight end like Kittle in the same draft, 4 rounds later - yikes.
He has been really solid this year and a big TE is always a QBs friend, but that's such a basic play right there, but I honestly dont even know if the Giants have it in their playbook...or could even execute it if they do.
He gets some praise here but I believe he's a JAG. No penetration, no pass rush, no tackles for losses, fairly stout against the run. Nothing special about this guy considering he was a high 2nd round pick. Hill looks like he has more more potential IMO.
Each day that goes by I wish for the Giants to can Gettleman. Not sure he did shit in the off season, except put different players in there. It is a shame the Giants organization cannot draft and develop with confidence and spin the wheel on the efforts of some other teams competence through free agency.
loaded with homeless and just as much human feces all over the sidewalks. They even have an app now that pedestrians use. It is an app that lets you know where the human feces is so you dont step in it. It is interactive like Waze.
I was thinking about some ten-tear old Bushmills myself. But I do like that new guy at RG. I see af er taking this break for comments that we're starting as usual at about our own 12.
pass o third down to Shepard was well short of the sticks. The 49ers are just rushing four most of the time. Eli is throwing against six and seven defenders, which means a lot of check downs. A more mobile QB might be able to extend some of those plays.
That play wasn't enough for the first down. All that protection, why take the man thats short of the first down. Same shit, just a different week. Jessh
Can any explain how the Giants didnt know to wear the longer spikes? Papa said on the radio there was a sign to wear the proper shoes, but now Cross is reporting that everyone is scrambling to change their cleats. This team is unprepared in all ways.
Does anyone know? My wife is asking
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Eli has a patch or something on the front of his jersey...(not the captain patch) does anyone know what that is?
It's a Man of the year award he won a few years ago
It is absurd how many damn times they have played that commercial tonight. You would think market research would show you're going to alienate at some point
Thats what the great ones do. Watch Bell and Gurley. They just sit and wait for the blocking to open it up. Most backs can't accelerate enough, so they have to just hit the hole at full speed
I havnt seen 2-3 yards availible short of him breaking 6 tackles
He had a play like that on this very drive. THe run was supposed to go inside, he cut to avoid a defender, then took it more outside but didn't get a gain.
Not bashing him, but it's exemplary of his college tendencies.
It is absurd how many damn times they have played that commercial tonight. You would think market research would show you're going to alienate at some point
Get the points. Make it a 0-0 game at halftime. You don't want to go for it, fail, and let the 49ers score to start he second half. Suddenly you're down 10.
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Again, what is the advantage of having a 15-year veteran at QB if he cannot see that the most talented WR in the league is uncovered at the line of scrimmage and get the ball to him?
He was the lead blocker on that play and instead of continuing through the hole he started blocking someone who was already contained. Left 48 on SF with a free run. Terrible!
This guy is just awful. I know they aren't going to fire him after one season so we have nothing to look forward to next year also. The shitshow shall continue.
The Giants are in the Red Zone, but only get a damned field goal.
If they had a QB who could become mobile, perhaps they'd score a TD once and a while.
I love what Eli gave us when he was in his prime.....which was several years ago.
But who thinks Shurmur has a clue in play calling. Third and goal he runs it up the middle after telegraphing all night that SB is his main weapon. We need a new OC to call the plays and as soon as possible. MO
I don't care if it only one year, make a strong message and fire him after this season. I get the Oline is horrible but his play calling is terrible. So much talent on this offense for it not to score in the Redzone?! gtfoh..
RE: Rosas must lead the league in FGs under 30 yards
But this is the type of game after the season you wished you lost. This is pathetic!
Anyone here who thinks that Gettleman and Shurmur deserve more time should have their head examined.
No pass rush, and poor gap control on several plays that produced big runs by the 49ers.
OL is controlled by four or five DL, so Eli is regularly throwing against six or seven defenders. That means a lot of check downs., no explosive plays, and why Eli only has 63 yards passing. Eli also can't move to extend plays.
Collins is being owned by Kittle, and we still can't cover TEs.
Horrible STs, except for Rosas.
On the plus side, J. Brown has looked good, and the pass protection overall has been better. Barkley also had a few holes, at least at the beginning of the game.
Or maybe the lack of pass rush, any quality at LB, awful play at S, no depth or talent at CB. And now the offense with the worst starting OL in the NFL in years.
we're going to regret not trading Collins and Vernon and getting anything in return. Probably Jenkins too since he'll be 31 next year.
Collins was an obvious trade. I would have taken anything for him. He hasnt been a plus player in two seasons and even a middling O-co like Shanahan can expose him as a liability in pass coverage. And yet, there are those here who say hes a guy to build around.
we're going to regret not trading Collins and Vernon and getting anything in return. Probably Jenkins too since he'll be 31 next year.
Very possible. Might get a comp pick for Collins, but even that isn't a given, and wouldn't be until 2020. I don't want to give him the contract he'll be seeking in FA.
Its sad how ELI is always tossed under the bus. EVERYONE explains how our OL is subpar and he never was an out of the pocket passer. Yeah he has had WTH moments nothing has changed.
Place him on the Steelers with the OL they have had he has four SB rings.
Please jump ship and root for the jets or another bandwagon team.
not trading Collins and Vernon and getting anything in return. Probably Jenkins too since he'll be 31 next year.
If they had deals on the table, they should have dumped all of them and more.
I like what Gruden is doing. Id rather be OAK right now. They suck but hes much closer to a rebound with the moves hes making.
Picks are only as good as what you do with them. I don't really think Gruden has the track record where you can say they're in good hands. Overt tanking is a hard sell, and you'd better get forward progress in a hurry if you're gonna go that route.
and they can go at will to him. Odell is the Giants main weapon, but they don't go to him in the Redzone?! Something is really wrong with the play calling?!
Engram will star in the remake of the Invisible Man.
Is it really Engram??? I mean , have there been any passes at all thrown to him downfield? Watching this shit show and the lack of imagination, do the Giants really want Shurmur back?? Its all dink and dunk!
Beckham was in the slot uncovered. How does Eli not see that and junk the run?
Cause everything is elis fault. Bang that drum buddy.
Well, the play call was a run. So it was a run play. Of course, the QB can check off if he reads an opportunity in the defensive scheme.
If Eli reads the run can work, he doesn't check..
Our guy did, right? Wasnt that the selling point on Gettleman?
Gruden has made all of the right moves.
He stumbled into a big t8me gift from Dallas. But trading Mack and the rest. Hes in great shape with draft picks and cap space to make massive changes fast.
The Giants have now trailed at halftime in 8 games this season (most in the NFL)
Giants are 0-7 when trailing at the half this season and have not won a game after trailing at the half since Week 14, 2016 vs Cowboys (trailed 7-0 at halftime, won 10-7)
Or maybe the lack of pass rush, any quality at LB, awful play at S, no depth or talent at CB. And now the offense with the worst starting OL in the NFL in years.
Oh but fucking Engram isnt producing.
Great point.
He cant block, doesnt run great routes, and drops his fair share of balls. Hes also playing with Beckham, Shep, and Barkley and cant beat single coverage. Invisible in the red zone.
Never saud Eli was horrible tonight. No reason to put Eli out there every week when he isn't going to be here next year. As for Engram, wake me up when he makes a play for the Giants. Kittle looks much better than him.
Beckham was in the slot uncovered. How does Eli not see that and junk the run?
Cause everything is elis fault. Bang that drum buddy.
Well, the play call was a run. So it was a run play. Of course, the QB can check off if he reads an opportunity in the defensive scheme.
If Eli reads the run can work, he doesn't check..
No one here knows what was called and what was happening. To say based on rewatching a play that Eli should have checked out is rediculous. Maybe if Eli called a new play the defense would have changed their scheme also?
RE: Also, why are we having a ticker tape parade for Eli
but we don't need to create shit that's not happening. Eli isn't playing poorly.
The QB is the least of our problems tonight. People are simply morons.
I think most fans realize it takes a failure at multiple levels to be as bad as the Giants are -- and that playing componently at the quarterback against arguably a bottom 3 team on the surface doesn't inspire confidence.
Our guy did, right? Wasnt that the selling point on Gettleman?
Gruden has made all of the right moves.
He stumbled into a big t8me gift from Dallas. But trading Mack and the rest. Hes in great shape with draft picks and cap space to make massive changes fast.
I don't see what Gettleman has to do with this. I couldn't care less about Gettleman. Gruden had been sold as this cure all franchise fixer when his resume has never supported that.
Beckham was in the slot uncovered. How does Eli not see that and junk the run?
Cause everything is elis fault. Bang that drum buddy.
Well, the play call was a run. So it was a run play. Of course, the QB can check off if he reads an opportunity in the defensive scheme.
If Eli reads the run can work, he doesn't check..
No one here knows what was called and what was happening. To say based on rewatching a play that Eli should have checked out is rediculous. Maybe if Eli called a new play the defense would have changed their scheme also?
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63 yds.., thats pathetic !
Unthinkably bad production. Collins sure doesn't look like the hero he was two years ago, does he? Taking a third would have been a good idea. This is hard to watch. harder than usual because this is a bad SF team. The Giants, though, are a perfectly awful team.
(I notice the ice in my Irish glass has gotten pretty low. Maybe I ought to go back to the regular Bushmills since there's nothing new or worth getting emotional about in the game,. Nothing unexpected, I mean.)
You like Ogletree? Why? the guy sucks. There is good reason why the Rams dumped him. Another mistake by Gettleman. The talent on this team is embarrassing.
It's gonna be 20-10 after the Niners score again....
Certainly looks like very poor coaching...playcalling questionable, culture seems about the same. Just a loser mentality to me right now. They do not overcome adversity well nor are they capable.
should be cut after the game. Horrendous football player.
Dave Gettleman is an absolute disaster of a GM. Spare me how good his draft was. He picked a running back #2 and somehow i'm supposed to be happy about that. His 2nd round pick 99% of BBI would have made as well. His 3rd rounders look decent but every single move besides the draft has been a total train wreck.
He needs to be fired, like yesterday. He didn't deserve the job in the first place and if he was never employed by the Giants previously he never would have been hired.
There is zero chance this ship turns around with this clown as GM. He thinks it's the 80's still and has no fucking clue what he's doing.
Just shows you the difference in play design and creativity. Could you imagine of we ran a play like that with Barkley? Would be like stealing candy from a baby, but our coaches do not have that level of scheme creativity that shanahan does. Blow this entire organization up.
I am not impressed by Bettcher's defensive scheme or his play calling. No pressure.
Two players beating the Giants Breida and Kittle.
If your expectation is that a coordinator can chalkboard up a pass rush with no players, that's on you. They're bottom of the barrel in pass rush because of how the team was built.
and possibly have the worst year in Giants history. This is a nightmare! The Biant were Super Bowl champs 7 years ago and it seems like 50. What has happened to this team?!
Seemingly 85% of everything he did this past offseason was wrong. And this coaching staff leaves a lot to be desired. Were wasting time if we bring them back.
One,just one good move that Gettleman made? I could give you at least a dozen bad ones. It is so difficult to root for this group. They are awful from top to bottom. I almost forgot what it feels like to win. This will make it 22 out of the last 26 games.
Glad they got the TD though. We're going to need allot of good draft picks in 2019 and 2020 to be able to maybe have a winning season by then.
I know, I'm asking for allot. LOL! :)
Definitely better value taking Saquon Barkley than Bradley Chubb.
Forget about the QB debate for a second. Even if you dont think any QB was worth it, anyone who believes Saquon Barkley was a better value than Bradley Chubb needs their head examined.
Premium players at premium positions. That's the proper way to build a roster. Not with #2 picks at non premium positions when you have one premium position premium player on the entire roster.
Please fire this fucking clown. He can take his "analytics are a crock" comments and be on the unemployment line where he belongs.
Oh we have a guy who can cover Engram? Name the guy.
Its not the coach either.
This team is overmatched in just every key aspect of the game.
They put together a roster that gave this coach no chance. He may have been part of the construction of the team. But no coach can do anything with this crew.
One,just one good move that Gettleman made? I could give you at least a dozen bad ones. It is so difficult to root for this group. They are awful from top to bottom. I almost forgot what it feels like to win. This will make it 22 out of the last 26 games.
BJ Hill is legit. There's that and Barkley and Hernandez.
Why arent we blitzing non stop on this rookie in his 2nd start in a prime time game. Mix it up and attack from all angles, blitz CBs as he seems to look at TE & RB the most. Fooking sell it out, I dont care. I would rather get burned that way than watching them just bleed us with mismatches. WTF
Throwing the ball real well tonight. Probably should be running more play action and let Eli throw it tonight. SF.s secondary sure looks like it can be had.
problem is that we have nobody who can really run the arc, and bend the edge as a pass rusher. We need to get one in the draft next year. They don't have to stuff the run, or drop into coverage. Just get to the QB from around the edge. Pressure only happens now if we bull rush the OL back into the QB. That takes too much time, and can often be avoided by most QBs.
With the worst OL years, Barkley is a consistent impact player.
Chubb is great but so is Barkley. Its the one move you cant knock the team. Barkley great.
Both are great. One players a position with a hell of a lot more value.
Taking a running back #2 in this past draft (or any draft for that matter) should get a GM fired. Barkley could be Ladanian Tomlinson and there's still almost zero chance he'll be the most valuable player from the 2018 draft.
One,just one good move that Gettleman made? I could give you at least a dozen bad ones. It is so difficult to root for this group. They are awful from top to bottom. I almost forgot what it feels like to win. This will make it 22 out of the last 26 games.
Stop being a giant fucking whining vagina. For fuck sake.
We get as big turnover at midfield and we throw a short pass to the tight end followed up by a run up the middle. Good teams would have run a play action pass and went for a big play.
He actually caught the tipped ball and finished the drive. How many times have we seen dropped "gift" INTs. He's at the very least, finished the opportunity. Why the hate with that?
Lol is he? Hes basically a shitty version of Jordan Reed.
Im shocked at how little he's been used this year. At first I thought he was injured but he's 100% healthy and barely on the field anymore. So much for that first round pick!
I'm all ELi, all the way. But you have to be able to make that throw. And not in a rainbow short. Time the the next man up, I'm afraid. The rest of the team can't be expected to go on like this. Not right for them. They play, too.
with Eli as their QB. I doubt that they'll win any of the final games in this season with Manning.
He's done, they're done.
Odell is probably getting pissed off for being in his prime without a good QB.
with Eli as their QB. I doubt that they'll win any of the final games in this season with Manning.
He's done, they're done.
Odell is probably getting pissed off for being in his prime without a good QB.
Dont stop there. Please, continue.
Will Barkley turn to Satanism? Collins turn to Satanism? Shurmur buster for molesting collies?
to change the whole way he has called the defense this whole season. Against an inexperienced QB? Not aggressive at all. He's let them dictate all game, and expose his LBs. I don't get it
Worse MNF team - these jokers or Golic, Greenberg, and Ditka?
Those guys. I've heard Tessitore for years and liked him. I don't have a problem with him here. I think he's unfairly being killed because of the crew he's surrounded with. Witten isn't good, but I don't find him as grating as others. Booger however is an abomination. The 3 Mikes were next level bad though
Worse MNF team - these jokers or Golic, Greenberg, and Ditka?
Those guys. I've heard Tessitore for years and liked him. I don't have a problem with him here. I think he's unfairly being killed because of the crew he's surrounded with. Witten isn't good, but I don't find him as grating as others. Booger however is an abomination. The 3 Mikes were next level bad though
I like Witten, its like little comedy episodes whenever they flash to him.
this is going to be an incredibly costly win long term.
This organization is such a train wreck.
That PI was trash
Again, the Raiders are going to pick Herbert the future bust, so you're getting bent outta shape over nothing. This is likely their last win of the year
I understand where your coming from but do you have any confidence that Getleman is going to pick the right guy no matter we we pick? Also, none of these qb's coming out excite me at all.
in 2003 got the Giants Eli (within striking distance to get Eli)
It's like fans of this team ignore history and everything about the NFL now. The Giants won 2 Super Bowls in large part because they tanked and got Eli.
Yet here you guys are in a year that the Giants blow chunks and want the Giants to win.
They need to lose. You'll regret it in February-April when this win actually hurts them. This win did absolutely nothing to actually help the Giants future.
There is no guarantee herbert goes 1st..and if he does id take bosa or ferrell in a heartbeat because we desperately need a pass rusher. Wnjoy the win for once were still okay
win. Could be franchise changing if they lose out on the quarterback they need.
Enjoy it guys. Celebrate. Team fucking sucks the exact same as they did prior to the game but now they can pick lower in the draft.
If you think last years draft class had warts at QB, wait til you see this one. Woof.
Another horrible season and we'll wind up with garbage at QB for another year, YAY.
Such a shitty hypocritical post.
First you say they could lose out on the QB because of this win and then you say the next QB class is worse than last year. Which one is it because you can't have it both ways?
The way I see it is I want my team to win. We got OBJ at number 12 so who's to say there won't be another generational talent at wherever we pick?
I'll take the win, enjoy it, and let the chips fall where they may as far as everything else goes.
Mook, what QB will they be a missing out on though?
in Gettleman? Absolutely not, I dont think he has any clue what he's doing.
But i'd still much rather have a higher pick than a lower pick.
This team is horrible. The roster is an unmitigated disaster. I dont want to win any fricking games the rest of the year. I want to build a team that can win a championship and it helps to lose a game like this.
Odell and Barkley are exciting players, but outside of those two there is absolutely nothing exciting about the Giants or anything anyone should want to watch.
A meaningless win doesn't make me feel good whatsoever. The seasons already over. Only thing I care about is draft position.
Herbert? Really? Who cares, the guy isn't that good.
You're way too confident in Herbert sucking. And even if the Giants agree with you, it's still better to pick #1 or #2 than it is #3 or #4. Trade down options too.
I like Herbert less than I do 3 of the qb's last year, but they will still likely need to take him.
You can't take Saquon #2 and then basically punt 3 seasons of his career. If they don't take a QB this draft #1 then thats what they essentially would be doing, punting 3 years of his career. This year is already punted, next year would then be punted with no QB, and even if you got someone else the following year you're again punting that season with a rookie QB.
I'm sick of bad football. We had to watch that sack of shit team last year and came out of it with a fucking running back and people are somehow overjoyed with that.
in Gettleman? Absolutely not, I dont think he has any clue what he's doing.
But i'd still much rather have a higher pick than a lower pick.
This team is horrible. The roster is an unmitigated disaster. I dont want to win any fricking games the rest of the year. I want to build a team that can win a championship and it helps to lose a game like this.
Fans complain about the losing climate and you advocate tanking games. Cant have it both ways. You should always try to win.
Odell and Barkley are exciting players, but outside of those two there is absolutely nothing exciting about the Giants or anything anyone should want to watch.
A meaningless win doesn't make me feel good whatsoever. The seasons already over. Only thing I care about is draft position.
the obsession with the #1 overall pick. Giants will make it work if they really want Herbert. He might also be there when they pick...who the hell knows. Eagles traded up like 13 spots to get Wentz.
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in Gettleman? Absolutely not, I dont think he has any clue what he's doin
But i'd still much rather have a higher pick than a lower pick.
This team is horrible. The roster is an unmitigated disaster. I dont want to win any fricking games the rest of the year. I want to build a team that can win a championship and it helps to lose a game like this.
Fans complain about the losing climate and you advocate tanking games. Cant have it both ways. You should always try to win.
Odell and Barkley are exciting players, but outside of those two there is absolutely nothing exciting about the Giants or anything anyone should want to watch.
A meaningless win doesn't make me feel good whatsoever. The seasons already over. Only thing I care about is draft position
Fans complain about a losing culture and then you advocate tanking games. Cant have it both ways
I understand where your coming from but do you have any confidence that Getleman is going to pick the right guy no matter we we pick? Also, none of these qb's coming out excite me at all.
Go Giants!
Youve been drinking thats why.... haha
NFL cares so much about their players safety...
I am concerned about Breida
Go Giants?
Yeah, a league that is crazy profitable for its owners will not exist.
Another great post from you.
Your dupe handle will not exist in 10 days.
Sarcasm? I hope
Chrckdown
Poor specials
Good start
Poor Odell
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Sarcasm? I hope
I don't know it looked a half inch or so off Beckham's hands
It was. Damn him for hitting OBJ in the hands.
Odell, way to set the tone.
Thanks John Mara. You and the rest of your family couldnt run a lemonade stand.
Thanks John Mara. You and the rest of your family couldnt run a lemonade stand.
He's a pile of shit?
You need to settle down.
PATHETIC!
Thanks John Mara. You and the rest of your family couldnt run a lemonade stand.
pile of shit because he dropped a pass?
next week gould will ring two off the uprights
Thanks John Mara. You and the rest of your family couldnt run a lemonade stand.
He is johnny on the spot playing grab ass on the sidelines, but can't catch a fucking routine pass to advance the chains.
PATHETIC!
Play calling sucks ass!
I'm here drinking like a fish with you.
Shame the kicker from Chicago is not in this game.
Seems that way.
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Thanks John Mara. You and the rest of your family couldnt run a lemonade stand.
He's a pile of shit?
You need to settle down.
Fair enough. My disgust over this season has run over. But Ivme never had a harsh word for the guy before this Ever. All the crap he gets is over blown. But st this point IMO this team would have been a lot better off w Zack Martin over him in every way. Dont think hes worth the money. I dont care about the off field stuff. The next great WR who brings his team to the championship will be the first IMO.
Brutal team. Who is the coach?
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PATHETIC!
Play calling sucks ass!
Play calling? How about the QB doesn't throw it to the 1st person he sees when it is only 1 yard away. There were 4 other options on that play.
I feel a tipped ball INT coming. Possible pick-6.
Kickers have been missing left and right this year. More than I can ever remember, they just make everything against us lol
Saquan - Love him!
And that last play, Hernandez was mauling his guy.
Also, get off the hash pipe.
+1
Shepard with a poor route. Gotta get to the sticks.
And Hernandez.
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Kickers have been missing left and right this year. More than I can ever remember, they just make everything against us lol
Seriously. When was the last time a kicker missed a 50+ yard FG against us? Feels like its been 5 years
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And Hernandez.
Will and Jamon look good so far. Spencer, not so much.
I notice that too. Ball was in the backfield forever. Don't think it's a delay
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what I've seen from Brown. Of course, he has a very low bar to hurdle and overcome.
And Hernandez.
Will and Jamon look good so far. Spencer, not so much.
Of course, as I type that, Spencer wrestles the ball away.
The pocket was collapsing and there was a free running blitzer. What was he supposed to do, what and get sacked.
Hopeful.
It isn't. Odell is a sunk cost. We can dick around for 5 more years or just accept it. Again. Cant win with the guy.
haha. This was a goodie.
Lol
Probably Spencer, hence it would explain why he was available to dive on the LB to wrestle the ball away.
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The pocket was collapsing and there was a free running blitzer. What was he supposed to do, what and get sacked.
Clear as day. Last two offensive plays destroyed by the niner front.
Guys in backfield wreaking havoc..
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The pocket was collapsing and there was a free running blitzer. What was he supposed to do, what and get sacked.
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Lol
Waiver wire pickup next week :-)
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take forever?
I notice that too. Ball was in the backfield forever. Don't think it's a delay
It seems like they get penetration before Barkley gets the ball?!
He could have taken sack and been lit up. What was he going to do. Ended up better to not take sack..
Fucking genius.
some potent offense we have ...
Ok.
Yeah, he should have held it and taken the sack. That would have made everyone happy.
some potent offense we have ...
Shurmur ball
If Eli holds it longer and ends up taking a sack BBI gets mad
No way he can win. When he gets time he hits players.
But we needed him to score.
yeah he is almost like Forest Gump..
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Yeah, he should have held it and taken the sack. That would have made everyone happy.
It's like they fabricate their own reality to fit their agenda...Hilarious to see
run with gallman on 2nd and long from the 12.
Just fucking terrible play calling.
You'd think they were playoff-bound...ROFLMAO!
Yes, they should never ever dare try to have fun. Get a life.
Odell caught that one!!!
Pocket mastery
Well done
Yup, Brown didn't give up.
run with gallman on 2nd and long from the 12.
Just fucking terrible play calling.
He's changing shoes. Relax.
He checked down to OBJ in the back of the EZ
TD when you have a bit of time there. who knew
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Yeah, he should have held it and taken the sack. That would have made everyone happy.
It's like they fabricate their own reality to fit their agenda...Hilarious to see
Huh? Throw it away. It was a dumb decision. And yes a sack would have been better there.
You're a fucking idiot. Brown was great on the TD play.
I cant tell if some of you are the most dryly sarcastic fucks, or the biggest idiots of all time. lol
Yess! Brown made big pickup on that TD
Saw the reply. +1. He made that play happen.
I cant believe it! Our guy picks up a stunt, and Eli sidesteps the rush and throws a dart over the coverage to an open guy. See, they can do it!
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sucks in pass pro.
You're a fucking idiot. Brown was great on the TD play.
Typical XBRONX stuff. Dude is a moron.
Yes lets cry a river that our QB may actually play well.
Maybe he does still have it, he just needs a line that blocks
might be a lost year for EE. But to get a tight end like Kittle in the same draft, 4 rounds later - yikes.
Yes. More of her. Less booger.
Seeing his woman made it for me.
No... Oklahoma paid for it. Or whatever the fuck state they said he was from
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Eli & Engram work the quick seam like that?
might be a lost year for EE. But to get a tight end like Kittle in the same draft, 4 rounds later - yikes.
You don't think Engram would be doing the a lot better on another team? Combo of no time for our QB to make the throw and play calls.
our linebackers are trash
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Eli & Engram work the quick seam like that?
might be a lost year for EE. But to get a tight end like Kittle in the same draft, 4 rounds later - yikes.
He has been really solid this year and a big TE is always a QBs friend, but that's such a basic play right there, but I honestly dont even know if the Giants have it in their playbook...or could even execute it if they do.
Never mind...
Great defense here.
Tootsie Pop defense (soft in the middle)
I cant tell if some of you are the most dryly sarcastic fucks, or the biggest idiots of all time. lol
It truly is a thing to behold. Wonderous really.
Imagine if Saquan had these holes? SMH
And that Stupar is Sub-par
They are pathetic.
And Collins was your boy's pick, so?
Each day that goes by I wish for the Giants to can Gettleman. Not sure he did shit in the off season, except put different players in there. It is a shame the Giants organization cannot draft and develop with confidence and spin the wheel on the efforts of some other teams competence through free agency.
Jesus, it's not even an exaggeration
You keep doing you John Mara.
Along of the rest
Great defense here.
I was thinking about some ten-tear old Bushmills myself. But I do like that new guy at RG. I see af er taking this break for comments that we're starting as usual at about our own 12.
The best way to stop throwing short - STOP CALLING THE SAME PATTERNS.
incomplete pass ......typical Giants drive
Yeah, just did a shot of Jack. Drink up.
good luck
Yep.
Back to throwing on every down again.
and then two guys who were so far away that Eli could not read their numbers.
There was a post today, asking what we hoped to see.....I said third down completions resulting in first downs....we are still pathetic....
I mean at some point some reporter has to ask why this happens multiple times a week every week.
they couldn't wear him out as much as they tried
this can't be real
Looked like Goodson to me.
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This front seven is horrific.
Looked like Goodson to me.
Goodson was the one who took out the blocker. Ogletree was supposed to fill and he overplayed it towards the sideline
walter p man of year award
NFL Man of the Year
Papa and Banks on the radio and you don't
have to listen to the idiot commercials
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Eli has a patch or something on the front of his jersey...(not the captain patch) does anyone know what that is?
It's a Man of the year award he won a few years ago
Yes he did. Nice showing how great a blocker someone is and both plays were holding non called penalties. Pretty piss poor editing there.
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This front seven is horrific.
Looked like Goodson to me.
Goodson was the one who took out the blocker. Ogletree was supposed to fill and he overplayed it towards the sideline
Ogletree, another great DG acquisition!
LC should play over Vernon
Former NFL Man of the Year.
He looks great so far. He had two blocks on the Beckham td.
It's for the Walter Payton Man of the Year Award.
KIttle is outplaying him
Yup. Got blocked too easily the play before, but then a good tackle and great coverage the next two.
It is absurd how many damn times they have played that commercial tonight. You would think market research would show you're going to alienate at some point
Yeah, I have $100k laying around. Doesn't everyone?
1st down woo hoo
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2 GMC denalis?
They dont show how theyll be repossessed in 6 months
Yeah, I have $100k laying around. Doesn't everyone?
I havnt seen 2-3 yards availible short of him breaking 6 tackles
He hesitates because he sees a lot of oncoming traffic.
We dont get the ball back
At the half.
Thats what the great ones do. Watch Bell and Gurley. They just sit and wait for the blocking to open it up. Most backs can't accelerate enough, so they have to just hit the hole at full speed
He should slam into one of his olinemans back instead
Its amazing how much better the line looks with Brown in there over the washed up vet Greco.
1st impressions are pretty good, especially for a guy that just got here.
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Take the 2-3 yard gain
I havnt seen 2-3 yards availible short of him breaking 6 tackles
Not bashing him, but it's exemplary of his college tendencies.
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2 GMC denalis?
It is absurd how many damn times they have played that commercial tonight. You would think market research would show you're going to alienate at some point
Holy hell. On again.
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I know hes trying to make things happen.
He should slam into one of his olinemans back instead
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1st impressions are pretty good, especially for a guy that just got here.
They may have stolen a very good player
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I know hes trying to make things happen.
He should slam into one of his olinemans back instead
Youre an idiot
Clearly
We dont get the ball back
At the half.
Get the points. Make it a 0-0 game at halftime. You don't want to go for it, fail, and let the 49ers score to start he second half. Suddenly you're down 10.
1 Pass for 12 yards and a TD.
Good job Pat. Just an awful head coach.
1 Pass for 12 yards and a TD.
Good job Pat. Just an awful head coach.
Very strange.
Glad they tried the run.
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Again, what is the advantage of having a 15-year veteran at QB if he cannot see that the most talented WR in the league is uncovered at the line of scrimmage and get the ball to him?
Yeh but none of our lbs make that play.
10-10 to lousy teams I guess ...
If were playing to win, youre a meathead.
You could throw it
What the hell do they see in Pulley?? He absolutely sucks
Pulley was supposed to come off that double team and block Warner. He looked lost. Shithead
Seriously what's your issue with him?
He's probably graded out better than any of our other Linemen tonight. I mean it's really fucking odd at this point
Odell is in the slot. But you didn't throw it to him. Dumb play call. Or Eli's stupidity to change it to a run
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What else can you do? You spread out the defense, Odell is in the slot. They just can't block.
You could throw it
I guess, but Eli's been consistently terrible throwing in the red zone all year.
If they had a QB who could become mobile, perhaps they'd score a TD once and a while.
I love what Eli gave us when he was in his prime.....which was several years ago.
Never anything different SOS
Clueless in the redzone
Do you have to use a dupe to post this? Joined 2011 first post? This tripe.
Really weak stuff
AH, what are the 49ers saying 10 pts against a 1-7 team????
Or that our ability to get to the red zone is very good.
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what a stud
Seriously what's your issue with him?
He's probably graded out better than any of our other Linemen tonight. I mean it's really fucking odd at this point
Don't pay any attention to one of the resident morons. The guy is a dope.
this is a really hard team to pull for.
He went for the INT, just missed.
He's not fast enough to make that play. He misjudged the arm.
Papa and Banks said it not watching the Game thanks for responding
Kittle yells at his QB??
Engram is another Reese intangibles bum. Great measurables, tbough.
Kittle limps off the field after every play?
For the past 2 years.
10-15, 63 YDS, 1 TD
SF
N. Mullens
12-18, 112 YDS, 1 INT
10-15, 63 YDS, 1 TD
Just over 4YPA
Thats a sad stat sheet.
Anyone here who thinks that Gettleman and Shurmur deserve more time should have their head examined.
Stop it. Holy shit.
Jesus
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Getting exposed
He went for the INT, just missed.
Except he didn't. Looked like he wanted to jump the route, hesitated and then went too late. He needed to go all out either way from the get go.
Get rid of him and start over.
D is not great, but without that INT, the Giants would likely have only 3 points. We have NO offense.
my fantasy-team addition on Wed. Knew he would light us up...
If they had deals on the table, they should have dumped all of them and more.
I like what Gruden is doing. Id rather be OAK right now. They suck but hes much closer to a rebound with the moves hes making.
This is how I see it as well. People are so zero'd in on him, they just don't see how poorly the rest of the team is playing. They just see Eli.
Why? You're clearly a football expert. Please regale us with your superior knowledge.
Hes tough to spot because he is so fast.
lol
He caught a pass early on for -1 yard
Place is the pits.
No pass rush, and poor gap control on several plays that produced big runs by the 49ers.
OL is controlled by four or five DL, so Eli is regularly throwing against six or seven defenders. That means a lot of check downs., no explosive plays, and why Eli only has 63 yards passing. Eli also can't move to extend plays.
Collins is being owned by Kittle, and we still can't cover TEs.
Horrible STs, except for Rosas.
On the plus side, J. Brown has looked good, and the pass protection overall has been better. Barkley also had a few holes, at least at the beginning of the game.
Or maybe the lack of pass rush, any quality at LB, awful play at S, no depth or talent at CB. And now the offense with the worst starting OL in the NFL in years.
Oh but fucking Engram isnt producing.
Great point.
Collins was an obvious trade. I would have taken anything for him. He hasnt been a plus player in two seasons and even a middling O-co like Shanahan can expose him as a liability in pass coverage. And yet, there are those here who say hes a guy to build around.
Very possible. Might get a comp pick for Collins, but even that isn't a given, and wouldn't be until 2020. I don't want to give him the contract he'll be seeking in FA.
lord, this offense will never change...
Bad News Rams
Cooper Kupp out for the year
Cause everything is elis fault. Bang that drum buddy.
Collins cant be doing that when the 9ers are trying to run out the clock.
I thought Collins would have been easy.
Vernon and Jenkins were probably harder, I also think theyd like SOME continuity.
Place him on the Steelers with the OL they have had he has four SB rings.
Please jump ship and root for the jets or another bandwagon team.
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not trading Collins and Vernon and getting anything in return. Probably Jenkins too since he'll be 31 next year.
If they had deals on the table, they should have dumped all of them and more.
I like what Gruden is doing. Id rather be OAK right now. They suck but hes much closer to a rebound with the moves hes making.
Picks are only as good as what you do with them. I don't really think Gruden has the track record where you can say they're in good hands. Overt tanking is a hard sell, and you'd better get forward progress in a hurry if you're gonna go that route.
No I would trade you for ? no kidding would just cut you
But NYG? were fucking hopeless.
Trade them for draft picks was the move. We blew it.
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Beckham was in the slot uncovered. How does Eli not see that and junk the run?
Cause everything is elis fault. Bang that drum buddy.
Lol yes. Thats a great one.
The QB is the least of our problems tonight. People are simply morons.
Collins cant be doing that when the 9ers are trying to run out the clock.
who cares...least he tried to make play after getting abused most of the game.
It was a run play, what are you talking about?
Is it really Engram??? I mean , have there been any passes at all thrown to him downfield? Watching this shit show and the lack of imagination, do the Giants really want Shurmur back?? Its all dink and dunk!
It is debatable. He inherited a roster that currently only has 4 players remaining that were drafted (all rounds) in the past 10 years.
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Beckham was in the slot uncovered. How does Eli not see that and junk the run?
Cause everything is elis fault. Bang that drum buddy.
Well, the play call was a run. So it was a run play. Of course, the QB can check off if he reads an opportunity in the defensive scheme.
If Eli reads the run can work, he doesn't check..
Maybe
Gruden has made all of the right moves.
He stumbled into a big t8me gift from Dallas. But trading Mack and the rest. Hes in great shape with draft picks and cap space to make massive changes fast.
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The Giants have now trailed at halftime in 8 games this season (most in the NFL)
Giants are 0-7 when trailing at the half this season and have not won a game after trailing at the half since Week 14, 2016 vs Cowboys (trailed 7-0 at halftime, won 10-7)
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Beckham was in the slot uncovered. How does Eli not see that and junk the run?
Cause everything is elis fault. Bang that drum buddy.
Do you have DVR wiseass? There is no one covering Beckham. He takes 2 steps and he is in the end zone for an easy TD.
The Twilight Zone .....
Or maybe the lack of pass rush, any quality at LB, awful play at S, no depth or talent at CB. And now the offense with the worst starting OL in the NFL in years.
Oh but fucking Engram isnt producing.
Great point.
He cant block, doesnt run great routes, and drops his fair share of balls. Hes also playing with Beckham, Shep, and Barkley and cant beat single coverage. Invisible in the red zone.
Its not unfair to say hes been a disappointment.
Such a well coached team. Rosas third time he has done that. Just fucking kick it out of the endzone.
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Beckham was in the slot uncovered. How does Eli not see that and junk the run?
Cause everything is elis fault. Bang that drum buddy.
Well, the play call was a run. So it was a run play. Of course, the QB can check off if he reads an opportunity in the defensive scheme.
If Eli reads the run can work, he doesn't check..
No one here knows what was called and what was happening. To say based on rewatching a play that Eli should have checked out is rediculous. Maybe if Eli called a new play the defense would have changed their scheme also?
Who's having a ticker tape parade?
Barkley still a questionable pick? This is beyond stupid. Please stop. Please.
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but we don't need to create shit that's not happening. Eli isn't playing poorly.
The QB is the least of our problems tonight. People are simply morons.
I think most fans realize it takes a failure at multiple levels to be as bad as the Giants are -- and that playing componently at the quarterback against arguably a bottom 3 team on the surface doesn't inspire confidence.
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Beckham was in the slot uncovered. How does Eli not see that and junk the run?
Cause everything is elis fault. Bang that drum buddy.
Do you have DVR wiseass? There is no one covering Beckham. He takes 2 steps and he is in the end zone for an easy TD.
Most plays should be called retrospectively based upon a dvr read. We need to become more technologically advanced.
Gruden has made all of the right moves.
He stumbled into a big t8me gift from Dallas. But trading Mack and the rest. Hes in great shape with draft picks and cap space to make massive changes fast.
I don't see what Gettleman has to do with this. I couldn't care less about Gettleman. Gruden had been sold as this cure all franchise fixer when his resume has never supported that.
giants need to cut bait immediately.
Stewart?
Ignoring the pass rush?
The OL moves?
His draft looks good but it isnt easy to fuck up the #2 picks in round 1 and 2.
Its a disaster. We sucked last year and the team is worse this year.
We are currently being overmatched by the SF 49er backups including their 3rd string QB making his 2nd start.
The guy is super comfortable because we have nothing that can get close to him or disrupt this guy. Its a pathetic display of NFL football.
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Beckham was in the slot uncovered. How does Eli not see that and junk the run?
Cause everything is elis fault. Bang that drum buddy.
Well, the play call was a run. So it was a run play. Of course, the QB can check off if he reads an opportunity in the defensive scheme.
If Eli reads the run can work, he doesn't check..
No one here knows what was called and what was happening. To say based on rewatching a play that Eli should have checked out is rediculous. Maybe if Eli called a new play the defense would have changed their scheme also?
Rewatch the play.
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After 63 passing yards? Their damn TE has 66 yards.
Who's having a ticker tape parade?
ESPN mostly. Also seeing seeing users here.
Ever.
We know.
Unthinkably bad production. Collins sure doesn't look like the hero he was two years ago, does he? Taking a third would have been a good idea. This is hard to watch. harder than usual because this is a bad SF team. The Giants, though, are a perfectly awful team.
(I notice the ice in my Irish glass has gotten pretty low. Maybe I ought to go back to the regular Bushmills since there's nothing new or worth getting emotional about in the game,. Nothing unexpected, I mean.)
Giants not.
He may fuck up th spices but at least he has them. We have what.....
Hows the air?
Let me tell you something...
If Kittle was on this team he would be considered the best TE since Bavaro.
Double Kittle
Fucking offense.
But holy shit, how do the refs miss McGlinchey wrap up Mauro and throw him down on that play?
Not engram.
And harder and harder not to be depressed. I realize that with each loss we get a better draft pick but each loss suggest we are that fartheraway
Another Gettleman Gem
one bright spot this year and can't even sustain that
This team is miserable to watch
but if we went 4-3 we would have DL who couldnt get to the QB. Damn if you do... damn if you dont.
Ogletree... LMAO.
rush.
Nice catch.
GIANTS!
Certainly looks like very poor coaching...playcalling questionable, culture seems about the same. Just a loser mentality to me right now. They do not overcome adversity well nor are they capable.
He was traded for, fyi.
he has been a god damn disaster of a coach.
People should be a lot more upset with this GM than they are.
While Bettcher scratches his ass.
This Fucking team is a joke.
Awful.
I am not impressed by Bettcher's defensive scheme or his play calling. No pressure.
Two players beating the Giants Breida and Kittle.
Dave Gettleman is an absolute disaster of a GM. Spare me how good his draft was. He picked a running back #2 and somehow i'm supposed to be happy about that. His 2nd round pick 99% of BBI would have made as well. His 3rd rounders look decent but every single move besides the draft has been a total train wreck.
He needs to be fired, like yesterday. He didn't deserve the job in the first place and if he was never employed by the Giants previously he never would have been hired.
There is zero chance this ship turns around with this clown as GM. He thinks it's the 80's still and has no fucking clue what he's doing.
Yes. A fourth (comp pick), and a sixth.
So did the Niners apparently...
I am not impressed by Bettcher's defensive scheme or his play calling. No pressure.
Two players beating the Giants Breida and Kittle.
If your expectation is that a coordinator can chalkboard up a pass rush with no players, that's on you. They're bottom of the barrel in pass rush because of how the team was built.
Collins a joke
No one to provide pass rush and every time they blitz it gets picked up with ease.
Seemingly 85% of everything he did this past offseason was wrong. And this coaching staff leaves a lot to be desired. Were wasting time if we bring them back.
Were in a 5 year rebuild IF we land a franchise QB.
breida and Kittle each have more than that.
I know, I'm asking for allot. LOL! :)
Rams knew what they were doing. And they found a fool to take him and extend him lol
Hey, a big play.
Nah, dline is great.
Definitely better value taking Saquon Barkley than Bradley Chubb.
Forget about the QB debate for a second. Even if you dont think any QB was worth it, anyone who believes Saquon Barkley was a better value than Bradley Chubb needs their head examined.
Premium players at premium positions. That's the proper way to build a roster. Not with #2 picks at non premium positions when you have one premium position premium player on the entire roster.
Please fire this fucking clown. He can take his "analytics are a crock" comments and be on the unemployment line where he belongs.
Its not the coach either.
This team is overmatched in just every key aspect of the game.
They put together a roster that gave this coach no chance. He may have been part of the construction of the team. But no coach can do anything with this crew.
BJ Hill is legit. There's that and Barkley and Hernandez.
But but, Gettleman is an astute talent evaluator.
Eli wanted the snap quickly cause he knew what he had.
LOL BBI.
line is .
Eli actually has time most plays.
He epitomizes everything that is wrong with this team.
Ha!
Id add 10 to that. If he has time, hes very solid.
This^
Giants have been prone to giving a score right back. Lets see if this Defense can get them off the field. Theyve only done it once tonight!
These announcers are HORRIBLE!!!
The looks seem to be too easy, Mullins is too relaxed
LOL.
And we have to get a different #52
With the worst OL years, Barkley is a consistent impact player.
Chubb is great but so is Barkley. Its the one move you cant knock the team. Barkley great.
They're not a 2-7 team on the defensive line. That's a quality unit. You can take some positives from this.
Lorenzo
Eli actually has time most plays.
It's part Brown and part playing a 2 and 7 record team.
Two trash cans assigned to cover are still trash cans.
Good field position again.
Fair catch there needed
followed by a TD by the offense
followed by a quick 3 and out by the Defense
What in the hell is happening here please??
You mean it is legal to just throw DBs to the ground on your route in order to get open?
Quite the gift.
followed by a TD by the offense
followed by a quick 3 and out by the Defense
What in the hell is happening here please??
Just a dream.
Believe it or not on the OBJ TD they chose to double EE
Whats a TE? We dont use them very well.
Yet, hes counting his benjamins on the sideline.
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followed by good pass blocking for Eli
followed by a TD by the offense
followed by a quick 3 and out by the Defense
What in the hell is happening here please??
Impatient Jimmy?
Good call...lol
27 yards.
Nice call.
followed by a TD by the offense
followed by a quick 3 and out by the Defense
What in the hell is happening here please??
Not getting too excited. Plenty of time to fuck it up.
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Dont even try that getting cute stuff. Like running a reverse or something
Nice call.
Yeah I watch too many of these games I knew he would call that. I just didnt expect it to work.
Good field position again.
And the wine and cheese crowd boos. It's San Fran.
Also, low and behold, when you show a commitment to running it, you slow down the pressure a bit even when the runs arent super-productive.
Are you watching the game. We had a TD if the guy didnt slip.
For real though this turf is ass
Lmao
LOL
Lol
I'd piss in their beers
But yea, the 3 man rush on 3rd an long. Why?
No he isn't.
Complete bullshit. Hit him in the shoulder with his shoulder, unless that is now a penalty.
Odds are 60 yd fg.
Almost any hit to the head is going to get flagged
Seemed like a legit call to me.
He is confusing them by dropping 11 into coverage! WTF!!
Can we please sack him at least ONCE?
He was laughing at Richburg getting called for holding.
Eli being typical poor sport...
With the worst OL years, Barkley is a consistent impact player.
Chubb is great but so is Barkley. Its the one move you cant knock the team. Barkley great.
Both are great. One players a position with a hell of a lot more value.
Taking a running back #2 in this past draft (or any draft for that matter) should get a GM fired. Barkley could be Ladanian Tomlinson and there's still almost zero chance he'll be the most valuable player from the 2018 draft.
I was thinking the same thing.
He doesnt have enough quality players to confuse my sons middle school team!
Stop being a giant fucking whining vagina. For fuck sake.
Anyone?
on third down pitiful...
Amirite?
on third down pitiful...
Yup
He isnt playing lights out, like this announcer is screaming about.
Replace Vernon with Nick Bosa, and pair him with Carter and the Giants would have a nice young pass rushing tandem.
Looked that way.
Thanks witten
4 players within 10 yards.
We need Goodson to get another INT.
ball was tipped.
Defense isnt holding anyone Shurm
Yes. He's playing with his dick on the sidelines.
Lol is he? Hes basically a shitty version of Jordan Reed.
ball was tipped.
He's a quick learner.
LOL
I love that.
Wait...youre serious...
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playing?
Yes. He's playing with his dick on the sidelines.
you must have a better tv than me...
ref indicated it was on the field.
He isnt playing lights out, like this announcer is screaming about.
Well, he caught them, so what is your problem? Christ if he ran it in you'd bitch about that too.
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not PI?
ball was tipped.
Figures...Eli's fault again!
He's a quick learner.
I see what you did there!
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playing?
Lol is he? Hes basically a shitty version of Jordan Reed.
Im shocked at how little he's been used this year. At first I thought he was injured but he's 100% healthy and barely on the field anymore. So much for that first round pick!
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Shocker
ball was tipped.
You're drunk. The ball wasn't tipped.
Are you drunk?
Is.
Awesome.
Isnt that another guy Reese couldve picked up in FA?
Shanahan gameplanned well. He knew our weaknesses in coverage
This would be short term gain for long term pain right?
Isnt that another guy Reese couldve picked up in FA?
Edge rusher is a critical need next year. Hopefully we can get someone like Carter to develop as well.
Maybe 10 years ago.
No. they do it all the time. Used to be 5 yard delay of game penalty.
Are
A
Cunt
AND
Eat
A
Dick
This would be short term gain for long term pain right?
Im rooting for wins here on out
Actually I think Eli's arm was hit, not sure ball was tipped.
Regardless. It was a poor decision and the "tip" was absolutely minimal.
And I'm not hating on Eli. No one was Fucking open? Or is he radar focused on certain routes at this point?
I would punch you in the face if I met you.
He's just about the only guy I trust to make those kind of stops right now.
Yeah, it was so badly underthrown that you have to wonder if he slipped, which is certainly possible on this field.
Settle down with the hyperbole.
Really?
so you don't think Breida is a good football player?
It's a rarity when he has that kind of time ...
We haven't had one the entire season
I dont get it? I thought Bettcher was the blitz king?!
Fucking bum.
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Refusing to blitz this guy. STUPID.
I dont get it? I thought Bettcher was the blitz king?!
He was. But he had actual pass rushers in Arizona.
He's not blitzing because he doesn't trust his personnel.
Eli never made the playoffs other than his SB wins?
It's unreal how this clown has a job.
Gettleman has created more this year. Symmetry with O
Fucken line can't run block thesy suck
Defense gassed
He's done, they're done.
Odell is probably getting pissed off for being in his prime without a good QB.
He was 2 yards deep, forced the cut back. Nobody there.
That isnt on Vernon
More like SF offensive line out performing the giants
Breida actually has 4/5 of a good offensive line.
Booger is a fucking moron!
Because he stinks as a head coach?
Just a guess.
He is hilarious
Must be nice to have an offensive line.
And Booger...... Johnny Appleseed --- holy crap.
They are so bad. Holy crap.
He was 2 yards deep, forced the cut back. Nobody there.
That isnt on Vernon
And the next play he watched with 2 feet cemented in the ground and whiffed on a tackle.
He sucks. Another horrific signing.
Nah. This game bought him more starts. They're still at the 'give me any reason to keep playing him' phase.
He was 2 yards deep, forced the cut back. Nobody there.
That isnt on Vernon
Vernons number one fan checking in to defend his honor.
Got anymore bullshit Vernon stats to fluff his value?
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Must be nice to have an offensive line.
They also use a fullback to block. Giants could help Barkley by doing the same
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yeah cause the blocking is identical...
But we have Jamon Brown now, isn't he the second coming of Ron Stone?
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yeah cause the blocking is identical...
The Giants' run-blocking has been terrible. But Barkley has been ordinary tonight. They needed more out of him.
He was 2 yards deep, forced the cut back. Nobody there.
That isnt on Vernon
The safety and the CB were outside of Vernon. I think Vernon should have had the cutback.
Do you really think Lauletta will go from inactive to starting in one week?
+100
He's done, they're done.
Odell is probably getting pissed off for being in his prime without a good QB.
Dont stop there. Please, continue.
Will Barkley turn to Satanism? Collins turn to Satanism? Shurmur buster for molesting collies?
Christ.
We've been in 4 down territory for a month
Eli played well enough to start next week I believe.
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Go win this and shut up the doubters, or we are watching Lauletta next week.
Do you really think Lauletta will go from inactive to starting in one week?
At 1-8, yes.
While I dont doubt that will, and maybe should, happen, it still stinks that he will be the defenses scapegoat this week.
Eli never made the playoffs other than his SB wins?
It's unreal how this clown has a job.
FUCK BSPN Listen to Banks and Papa at least you don't
get irritated listening to booger blubber
There's no question these guys are momentously worse
Nailed it.
Shurmur special.
Start the win streak
Those guys. I've heard Tessitore for years and liked him. I don't have a problem with him here. I think he's unfairly being killed because of the crew he's surrounded with. Witten isn't good, but I don't find him as grating as others. Booger however is an abomination. The 3 Mikes were next level bad though
designed play. You can tell by the route Barkley ran.
Really?
lol
They are 10x more likely to lose because they fuck things up than they are because they run out of time.
No blocking in front of him. Is it play design, execution or both?
design play/route.
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are we doing with that throw to Barkley?
Shurmur special.
You can't be that dumb to think that was the play. That was safety valve dumpoff...
Its coming, because theyll play the sticks.
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Worse MNF team - these jokers or Golic, Greenberg, and Ditka?
Those guys. I've heard Tessitore for years and liked him. I don't have a problem with him here. I think he's unfairly being killed because of the crew he's surrounded with. Witten isn't good, but I don't find him as grating as others. Booger however is an abomination. The 3 Mikes were next level bad though
I like Witten, its like little comedy episodes whenever they flash to him.
Go ELI!!
That wasnt even remotely close
That wasnt even remotely close
Except it almost hit his foot.
it was 5 yards short
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Barkley. Christ.
it was 5 yards short
No it wasnt.
And Engram drops a TD.
Really. Easy.
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Barkley. Christ.
it was 5 yards short
No it wasnt.
You've gotta be kidding
Unless you want them to pick Herbert, which I don't, it won't matter
Like getting hit by a pitch.
Craig Biggio 285
Really. Easy.
first time we agree. That pass to Barkley was perfect. If he looke dfor the ball it was an easy catch.
I didnt think think was underthrown
No, that throw to Engram was actually in the right spot. The problem was he was doubled and the ball probably should have gone elsewhere.
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Was back shoulder and not bad. He adjusts and its an easy catch.
Really. Easy.
first time we agree. That pass to Barkley was perfect. If he looke dfor the ball it was an easy catch.
he had a step why would you throw a back shoulder, what a joke
But really. If Barkley saw the ball earlier. He plants his foot and makes an easy catch. And people here are raving about the throw.
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Was back shoulder and not bad. He adjusts and its an easy catch.
Really. Easy.
first time we agree. That pass to Barkley was perfect. If he looke dfor the ball it was an easy catch.
he had a step why would you throw a back shoulder, what a joke
Cause he was well covered.
This organization is such a train wreck.
That PI was trash
Right there :)
Come on Kwall, always root for a win
This organization is such a train wreck.
That PI was trash
Jfc
This organization is such a train wreck.
That PI was trash
Its not over. We can still lose
Eli telling everyone to shut up!
100% agree
This organization is such a train wreck.
That PI was trash
Again, the Raiders are going to pick Herbert the future bust, so you're getting bent outta shape over nothing. This is likely their last win of the year
Being in QB hell doesn't seem to matter to a lot of people on BBI. Maybe they can sign eli to a 5 year extension because of this game
Game ain't over hoss
This organization is such a train wreck.
That PI was trash
Go away. You are miserable.
No, that's not nitpicking.
Its not like the number one pick will be a hall of famer
You cant be serious.
This organization is such a train wreck.
That PI was trash
Ironic considered youve been bitching non stop about the pick last year when we picked #2.
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Its better if we lose. Really.
Being in QB hell doesn't seem to matter to a lot of people on BBI. Maybe they can sign eli to a 5 year extension because of this game
How about we just want to enjoy them being competitive and winning a game
I am sorry that is a piss poor call.
When is it ever anymore?
This!
I feel you Kwall
Losing is for losers..
lets win this ..
Classy.
Unfortunately you can't drive the QB into the ground. It's such a pussy rule, but it's there nonetheless
Kwall this isnt the year of the QB anyway.
10 second runoff otherwise
This is bannable nonsense.
they stopped it when it was snapped not when the ball hit the ground
They stopped the clock before they snapped the ball
win this fucker ....
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Youre right but I dont want a 5 year rebuild plan.
Kwall this isnt the year of the QB anyway.
Pick Nick Bosa
Seemed to stop early.
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Watched it on replay and they taken stopped it before the snap .
They stopped the clock before they snapped the ball
Enjoy it guys. Celebrate. Team fucking sucks the exact same as they did prior to the game but now they can pick lower in the draft.
If you think last years draft class had warts at QB, wait til you see this one. Woof.
Another horrible season and we'll wind up with garbage at QB for another year, YAY.
By at least a half yard
The Raiders already have the #1 pick. Win where you can, because the #1 pick is out of reach.
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Youre right but I dont want a 5 year rebuild plan.
Kwall this isnt the year of the QB anyway.
Pick Nick Bosa
They can do that at #2 after the Raiders pick Herbert
Shut up with this nonsense
Enjoy it guys. Celebrate. Team fucking sucks the exact same as they did prior to the game but now they can pick lower in the draft.
If you think last years draft class had warts at QB, wait til you see this one. Woof.
Another horrible season and we'll wind up with garbage at QB for another year, YAY.
We were never going to out-tank the Raiders.
Good to see the team get a win.
Enjoy the win.
Dont watch the reason of the season if your going to be such a miserable asshole if they win or lose games. My goodness!
No, they are like BBI - they expect all calls against the Giants.
Carter with good pressure and they finally called a hold on the 49ers.
Enjoy it guys. Celebrate. Team fucking sucks the exact same as they did prior to the game but now they can pick lower in the draft.
If you think last years draft class had warts at QB, wait til you see this one. Woof.
Another horrible season and we'll wind up with garbage at QB for another year, YAY.
You really really need to check yourself
Enjoy it guys. Celebrate. Team fucking sucks the exact same as they did prior to the game but now they can pick lower in the draft.
If you think last years draft class had warts at QB, wait til you see this one. Woof.
Another horrible season and we'll wind up with garbage at QB for another year, YAY.
Haha, keep on keepin on. So this class sucks for QBs but you are mad we wont get one? What?
If you think last years draft class had warts at QB, wait til you see this one. Woof.
You're right.....which is why I don't know why you're so angry about possible missing out on Herbert's overrated ass
How about because we root for the team to win regardless. Ridiculous to desire a loss because "we are playing for a draft pick with 8 games left"
love Eli but the chapter is near the end.
Sad.
Jan 2012
At the half.
https://youtu.be/ZRZnSW5kVTA
Enjoy it guys. Celebrate. Team fucking sucks the exact same as they did prior to the game but now they can pick lower in the draft.
If you think last years draft class had warts at QB, wait til you see this one. Woof.
Another horrible season and we'll wind up with garbage at QB for another year, YAY.
You really have turned into a miserable fuck
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I fucking hate the Niners and I'm glad they won this game. Now lose out.
The Raiders already have the #1 pick. Win where you can, because the #1 pick is out of reach.
Just because they aren't guaranteed the #1 pick in no way means they should try to win a bunch of games. What the hell kind of idea is this?
It's like fans of this team ignore history and everything about the NFL now. The Giants won 2 Super Bowls in large part because they tanked and got Eli.
Yet here you guys are in a year that the Giants blow chunks and want the Giants to win.
They need to lose. You'll regret it in February-April when this win actually hurts them. This win did absolutely nothing to actually help the Giants future.
Enjoy it guys. Celebrate. Team fucking sucks the exact same as they did prior to the game but now they can pick lower in the draft.
If you think last years draft class had warts at QB, wait til you see this one. Woof.
Another horrible season and we'll wind up with garbage at QB for another year, YAY.
I don't think there is a Qb worth taking at #1.
Enjoy it guys. Celebrate. Team fucking sucks the exact same as they did prior to the game but now they can pick lower in the draft.
If you think last years draft class had warts at QB, wait til you see this one. Woof.
Another horrible season and we'll wind up with garbage at QB for another year, YAY.
Good lord. You're extremely negative. I know it's been a really rough year. But come on bud.
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but to each their own.
How about because we root for the team to win regardless. Ridiculous to desire a loss because "we are playing for a draft pick with 8 games left"
But if you hate seeing losses, wins at this point only prolong fixing this.
Enjoy it guys. Celebrate. Team fucking sucks the exact same as they did prior to the game but now they can pick lower in the draft.
If you think last years draft class had warts at QB, wait til you see this one. Woof.
Another horrible season and we'll wind up with garbage at QB for another year, YAY.
Such a shitty hypocritical post.
First you say they could lose out on the QB because of this win and then you say the next QB class is worse than last year. Which one is it because you can't have it both ways?
The way I see it is I want my team to win. We got OBJ at number 12 so who's to say there won't be another generational talent at wherever we pick?
I'll take the win, enjoy it, and let the chips fall where they may as far as everything else goes.
But i'd still much rather have a higher pick than a lower pick.
This team is horrible. The roster is an unmitigated disaster. I dont want to win any fricking games the rest of the year. I want to build a team that can win a championship and it helps to lose a game like this.
Odell and Barkley are exciting players, but outside of those two there is absolutely nothing exciting about the Giants or anything anyone should want to watch.
A meaningless win doesn't make me feel good whatsoever. The seasons already over. Only thing I care about is draft position.
These post-game arguments are sure to be the most excruciating part of the remainder of the season.
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Not on offense. Lynch gone for the year. Nelson and Bryant hurt. Cooper gone.
They are going to have a really hard time scoring.
Or get Herbert or Jones. Whoever is available
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but to each their own.
How about because we root for the team to win regardless. Ridiculous to desire a loss because "we are playing for a draft pick with 8 games left"
But if you hate seeing losses, wins at this point only prolong fixing this.
Shortsighted
Bullshit. We have more talent on O and D than Oakland.
You're way too confident in Herbert sucking. And even if the Giants agree with you, it's still better to pick #1 or #2 than it is #3 or #4. Trade down options too.
I like Herbert less than I do 3 of the qb's last year, but they will still likely need to take him.
You can't take Saquon #2 and then basically punt 3 seasons of his career. If they don't take a QB this draft #1 then thats what they essentially would be doing, punting 3 years of his career. This year is already punted, next year would then be punted with no QB, and even if you got someone else the following year you're again punting that season with a rookie QB.
I'm sick of bad football. We had to watch that sack of shit team last year and came out of it with a fucking running back and people are somehow overjoyed with that.
But i'd still much rather have a higher pick than a lower pick.
This team is horrible. The roster is an unmitigated disaster. I dont want to win any fricking games the rest of the year. I want to build a team that can win a championship and it helps to lose a game like this.
Fans complain about the losing climate and you advocate tanking games. Cant have it both ways. You should always try to win.
Odell and Barkley are exciting players, but outside of those two there is absolutely nothing exciting about the Giants or anything anyone should want to watch.
A meaningless win doesn't make me feel good whatsoever. The seasons already over. Only thing I care about is draft position.
These post-game arguments are sure to be the most excruciating part of the remainder of the season.
Huh? Every game except two has been competitive IMO.
People here are totally delusional. This roster is the worst in the NFL. The Raiders are actively tanking but they have more talent.
The Giants future currently is by far the worst in the NFL to me. Nothing at OL and QB. Nothing at DE.
I would never expect the Giants players to tank, they are playing for jobs and can't do that.
But as a fan I just would much prefer they lose right now.
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in Gettleman? Absolutely not, I dont think he has any clue what he's doin
But i'd still much rather have a higher pick than a lower pick.
This team is horrible. The roster is an unmitigated disaster. I dont want to win any fricking games the rest of the year. I want to build a team that can win a championship and it helps to lose a game like this.
Fans complain about the losing climate and you advocate tanking games. Cant have it both ways. You should always try to win.
Odell and Barkley are exciting players, but outside of those two there is absolutely nothing exciting about the Giants or anything anyone should want to watch.
A meaningless win doesn't make me feel good whatsoever. The seasons already over. Only thing I care about is draft position
Fans complain about a losing culture and then you advocate tanking games. Cant have it both ways
Elevator on his back Nelson and dumber than Bricks Bryant?
Fuck off Marty.
They have a losing climate because they have a garbage roster.
Losing climates become winning climates with better players a lot quicker than they do because you beat the awful 49ers with a rookie terrible QB.
Yessir agreed
Elevator on his back Nelson and dumber than Bricks Bryant?
Oakland's line was not better even before Omameh was sent home. That is god awful crap.