comparing qbs 25 years apart is silly, but I don't think anyone can take a look at the guys around Simms and not shake their head. He had a shit run game(go look up the rankings) save for 3 years and arguably the worst era of receivers in giants history. I remember being so stoked for Chris Calloway because we didn't have a receiver of his caliber my whole life. That's how bad they were. Somehow the line is fondly remembered here despite a very poor rushing attack and giving up a ton of sacks.
Anyhow, Eli had an efficient game and the line at least protected well most of the game. I feel like we stole that game from them, but it's nice to have a win
RE: RE: The NFC of the 1980s >>>>>>> the NFC of the 2000s
Some things are better some things aren't as good.
c'mon ...Greg isn't going out on a limb here. The giants had to contend with the dynasties of the skins and niners not to mention a very good Bears team. Perennial powerhouses like them don't exist anymore
Eli played well. It was nice to see. I'm happy for him.
That's really all that needs to be said, even if you're ready to move on from the guy.
I agree with both statements. From a purely "Best interests of the franchise" a loss was probably better in that spot. I was happy for the win though. I don't care about the draft position. It was good to see Eli smile after a win. It felt better, I am glad I watched even though I intended not to. I hope Tampa turns it over as just as much.
RE: RE: RE: The NFC of the 1980s >>>>>>> the NFC of the 2000s
Some things are better some things aren't as good.
c'mon ...Greg isn't going out on a limb here. The giants had to contend with the dynasties of the skins and niners not to mention a very good Bears team. Perennial powerhouses like them don't exist anymore
I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
2005: Two NFC East teams in the playoffs
2006: Three NFC East teams in the playoffs
2007: Three NFC East teams in the playoffs
2008: Two NFC East teams in the playoffs
2009: Two NFC East teams in the playoffs
It kind of puts the reality of the situation under the microscope even more. Two of the three worst teams in the entire league (along with the Raiders) played last night. Eli played well, and the game still went down to the last seconds to win said game. The other team was also starting their 3rd string QB.
This is a bad, bad team.
RE: you wanna beat that drum, Britt, don't let me stop you
Now we are down to arguing over which Giants Super Bowl teams had the tougher road.
I normally don't agree with Britt's take, but I agree with him, why put down the 2007/2011 runs to say the Giants teams from the 80's was a harder trek?
It's like people just want to argue for arguments sake.
I bully anyone who disagrees with me?? More like I point out rampant stupidity:
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Yes, a meaningless win in another lost season. But please go on with your schtick of doing nothing but bullying anyone who disagrees with you. I try real hard to ignore you, but you are an insufferable douche bag. How you have not been banned is beyond me. Everyone is a moron in your eyes. Get the fuck over yourself.
Minutes after the Giants won last night, the team you supposedly root for, you started a thread mocking Eli. And then spent the next few hours defending the fact that Eli played just alright to squeak by.
My schtick of calling you a fucking moron isn't because I disagree with you. It is because you truly appear to b e a fucking moron in what you post.
Distinguish between the two, asswipe.
When we were kids, and would throw the football around....
playing backyard football or just throwing it and pretending to tap our feet inbounds at the curb and emulate our favorite players, if I was throwing it I was Phil Simms. If I was catching it, I was Stephen Baker, or Bavaro.
Now, my 7 year old pretends to be Eli when he throws. We watch the games together, he wears his Eli jersey.
He'll never know Simms, just like I never knew Tittle or Connerly.
You should learn to appreciate good players while they're playing.
I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
The Giants being loyal to an incumbent, deteriorating character from the Super Bowls era shouldn't surprise any Giants fan.
That decision ending in anything other than another last place finish and Manning get his teeth kicked in weekly would be the surprise.
I bully anyone who disagrees with me?? More like I point out rampant stupidity:
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Yes, a meaningless win in another lost season. But please go on with your schtick of doing nothing but bullying anyone who disagrees with you. I try real hard to ignore you, but you are an insufferable douche bag. How you have not been banned is beyond me. Everyone is a moron in your eyes. Get the fuck over yourself.
Minutes after the Giants won last night, the team you supposedly root for, you started a thread mocking Eli. And then spent the next few hours defending the fact that Eli played just alright to squeak by.
My schtick of calling you a fucking moron isn't because I disagree with you. It is because you truly appear to b e a fucking moron in what you post.
Distinguish between the two, asswipe.
You are right, my thread was out of line and that is why I deleted it shortly thereafter. That doesn't mean I am a moron or a bad fan. You dont know anything about my intelligence or fandom. I do apologize for calling you a douche bag, I dont want to be that guy. I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
But they really accelerated in 2005 when Bill Polian cried his way to doing everything possible to prevent defense from being played. IOW, for basically all of Eli Manning's career.
I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
The irony is I basically ridicule posters who actually don't show decency and crap all over the players they supposedly are rooting for. Ridiculing them.
I have no motivation to have decency to morons who have little respect for an organization they supposedly spend much of their time following.
And I don't constantly ridicule people. Just moronic ones.
Now if it comes down to whether or not I'm going to ridicule Eli or you - you're going to win every fucking time.
People keep diminishing the win because of their record. Have you watched or kept track of the 49ers this year? The 49er's have battled in every game this year and a lot of good teams barely beat them. It took Rogers a big come back to do it.
I also keep hearing the fact that it was against Mullins. Isn't that a reason to be pissed at the D and not Eli?
I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
The irony is I basically ridicule posters who actually don't show decency and crap all over the players they supposedly are rooting for. Ridiculing them.
I have no motivation to have decency to morons who have little respect for an organization they supposedly spend much of their time following.
And I don't constantly ridicule people. Just moronic ones.
Now if it comes down to whether or not I'm going to ridicule Eli or you - you're going to win every fucking time.
Behind this idea is that you get to decide what the appropriate level of respect for the organization is. That's a ridiculous notion. When you factor that in with an extended period of incompetence and blinkered thinking on the part of the organization, the idea of needing to defend them against much poorly articulated but justified frustration becomes that much more silly.
I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
The irony is I basically ridicule posters who actually don't show decency and crap all over the players they supposedly are rooting for. Ridiculing them.
I have no motivation to have decency to morons who have little respect for an organization they supposedly spend much of their time following.
And I don't constantly ridicule people. Just moronic ones.
Now if it comes down to whether or not I'm going to ridicule Eli or you - you're going to win every fucking time.
Haha ok Fats...good for you. I dont know why I expected a reasonable response. Please continue to suck in your gut and be the internet tough guy. I also take back my apology. You are a miserable douche bag. I should just heap praise at the players in this organization that have won 5 games in the last two years just to appease your ego.
RE: When we were kids, and would throw the football around....
playing backyard football or just throwing it and pretending to tap our feet inbounds at the curb and emulate our favorite players, if I was throwing it I was Phil Simms. If I was catching it, I was Stephen Baker, or Bavaro.
Now, my 7 year old pretends to be Eli when he throws. We watch the games together, he wears his Eli jersey.
He'll never know Simms, just like I never knew Tittle or Connerly.
You should learn to appreciate good players while they're playing.
This post made me think of my first year playing Pee-Wee football. I won the QB competition for first string. We didn't get our uniforms until nearly the first week so we didn't know our numbers. It was 1989 and I loved Phil Simms and I wanted #11 so bad. The coach came to me and told me there was only one option for me and it was #16. I nearly broke down in tears having to wear Montana's number while I was QB. It was sacrilegious to me. Ha ha. I almost forgot that memory but for some reason your post brought it back to me.
I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
The irony is I basically ridicule posters who actually don't show decency and crap all over the players they supposedly are rooting for. Ridiculing them.
I have no motivation to have decency to morons who have little respect for an organization they supposedly spend much of their time following.
And I don't constantly ridicule people. Just moronic ones.
Now if it comes down to whether or not I'm going to ridicule Eli or you - you're going to win every fucking time.
Behind this idea is that you get to decide what the appropriate level of respect for the organization is. That's a ridiculous notion. When you factor that in with an extended period of incompetence and blinkered thinking on the part of the organization, the idea of needing to defend them against much poorly articulated but justified frustration becomes that much more silly.
I don't think he rails against criticism or frustration. HE rails against what has become pretty much a fanatical, near religious, prejudice.
I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
The irony is I basically ridicule posters who actually don't show decency and crap all over the players they supposedly are rooting for. Ridiculing them.
I have no motivation to have decency to morons who have little respect for an organization they supposedly spend much of their time following.
And I don't constantly ridicule people. Just moronic ones.
Now if it comes down to whether or not I'm going to ridicule Eli or you - you're going to win every fucking time.
Behind this idea is that you get to decide what the appropriate level of respect for the organization is. That's a ridiculous notion. When you factor that in with an extended period of incompetence and blinkered thinking on the part of the organization, the idea of needing to defend them against much poorly articulated but justified frustration becomes that much more silly.
I don't think he rails against criticism or frustration. HE rails against what has become pretty much a fanatical, near religious, prejudice.
That's an opinion that issues from a different baseline assessment of how badly the organization has fucked up and what your tolerance for incompetence is/what you think incompetence is.
I don't think it's necessary to have that discussion because it's tired and we both have better things to do. I'm just noting that the "reasonable police" on the board, which is the role FMiC largely casts himself in whether he says so or not, are just as narrow-minded as the people they criticize.
I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result
I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result
You know it.
We keep reading your posts.
RE: RE: RE: The NFC of the 1980s >>>>>>> the NFC of the 2000s
Some things are better some things aren't as good.
c'mon ...Greg isn't going out on a limb here. The giants had to contend with the dynasties of the skins and niners not to mention a very good Bears team. Perennial powerhouses like them don't exist anymore
No, those pre-salary cap teams were awesome. But, there wasn't a lot of balance in the NFL back then. Teams were either great or they sucked. It's hard to say which era is tougher to win in. There's more balance now, but the best teams today are not as good as the best teams back in the 80s.
Tough to compare eras for many reasons.
I liked the brand of football from that era a lot more than the football from this era, but I understand the rule changes were made for the long term health of the players and of the game.
I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result
You know it.
We keep reading your posts.
This is exactly what I am talking about. If you disagree with Les, fine but the constant name calling and shitting on other posters is destroying the integrity of this site. I have been saying this since last year when myself, googs, hassan etc. were getting crushed on here for wanting to move on from Manning. It is absolutely ridiculous.
This is exactly what I am talking about. If you disagree with Les, fine but the constant name calling and shitting on other posters is destroying the integrity of this site. I have been saying this since last year when myself, googs, hassan etc. were getting crushed on here for wanting to move on from Manning. It is absolutely ridiculous.
Oh boo friggity hoo. I dont hear you sticking up for the people who get continually attacked for sticking up for Eli..... I guess you approve when Les calls people fanboys, Cult of Eli, or Eli-lovers.
I think Britt and I have been called more names than anyone else on this site combined.... funny you dont say anything then, right?
This is exactly what I am talking about. If you disagree with Les, fine but the constant name calling and shitting on other posters is destroying the integrity of this site. I have been saying this since last year when myself, googs, hassan etc. were getting crushed on here for wanting to move on from Manning. It is absolutely ridiculous.
Oh boo friggity hoo. I dont hear you sticking up for the people who get continually attacked for sticking up for Eli..... I guess you approve when Les calls people fanboys, Cult of Eli, or Eli-lovers.
I think Britt and I have been called more names than anyone else on this site combined.... funny you dont say anything then, right?
That's such horseshit. I completely disagree with your views on Eli, but I have never once attacked your character. I even said to Britt in this thread that I think he is a valuable poster. But I sure as shit have seen you personally attack Les and other posters that dont praise Eli.
That's such horseshit. I completely disagree with your views on Eli, but I have never once attacked your character. I even said to Britt in this thread that I think he is a valuable poster. But I sure as shit have seen you personally attack Les and other posters that dont praise Eli.
1. Relax. I wasnt accusing you. I was stating BBI as a whole.
2. You never saw Les attack people by calling them fanboys or use the phrase cult of Eli? That tells me you never read a Les post before in your life.
You cant play the pity card because people here are attacking you when you dont say anything about others attacking people with the opposite viewpoint.
And you're right... people have NEVER attacked me for my views on Eli. You sure you want to go down that road?
This is exactly what I am talking about. If you disagree with Les, fine but the constant name calling and shitting on other posters is destroying the integrity of this site. I have been saying this since last year when myself, googs, hassan etc. were getting crushed on here for wanting to move on from Manning. It is absolutely ridiculous.
Oh boo friggity hoo. I dont hear you sticking up for the people who get continually attacked for sticking up for Eli..... I guess you approve when Les calls people fanboys, Cult of Eli, or Eli-lovers.
I think Britt and I have been called more names than anyone else on this site combined.... funny you don't say anything then, right?
The name calling is equal on both sides. The Giants suck and we are pissed. END OF STORY.
I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result
Les - JonC mentioned this a few months ago as something sort of swirling in the halls of Jints Central. The more of these decent games that Eli plays the more this will have substance. The spell that Eli has on this organization is now in the preposterous zone..
Both are now tarring and feathering each other. Not very healthy or good behavior.
there is no need to bitch about him after a win. there is no need also to gloat excessively about any small acheivement of his.
Just petty and small minded at this point both ways.
NYG07, get over it, its not always about being right. Don't get me wrong, Im no big fan of several of the folks that defend Eli excessively but you are going down a bad rabbit hole.
FMIC, I really think you have been a very strong poster since the inception of the site (and while I havent met you from my inferrence you are 'good people') but you need to really just cut out some of the tone too, I really dont see why people venting has become so problematic for you or the zest with which you are attacking others and defending NYG.
I was blasted last night and for the second week in a row, I mistakenly called him a Dupe. The man has owned me 2 weeks straight now and my humbled ass apologizes
RE: Pathetic comments from the owner of this site and mook
nostalgia in the giants universe. I guess I am happy today bc I remember the team where 50 years ago Saturday I spent my last time in the locker room and it was also a Giants victory (7-6 btw). There is much sacrificed by players (I cleaned up my fair share of bloody socks, towels etc.) and usually a great deal of pride. While I am well aware the game has changed greatly, I still remember the feeling of victory and the great physical punishment the players endured..
If we lost, you'd probably shit on Eli for leaving too much time on the clock.
We won, so Eli still has to get shit on.
It is unbelievable.
We convert the majority of our 3rd downs, but Eli still was making terrible decisions. OK.
LOL
The best is the guy claiming we check downed too much
I think the best is crafting a narrative out of an incorrect statement and treating it as fact. That's your favorite, isn't it MG? Now you get to do it yourself!
has sort of evolved into this ombudsman for BBI and Jints Central. It's fascinating, and he seems to really embrace the role...
These Eli topics are great and a classic example. The Eli Army gets insulted so they send their "bat signal" to FMiC. He then swoops in and verbally pulverizes the the violator(s).
Anyhow, Eli had an efficient game and the line at least protected well most of the game. I feel like we stole that game from them, but it's nice to have a win
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c'mon ...Greg isn't going out on a limb here. The giants had to contend with the dynasties of the skins and niners not to mention a very good Bears team. Perennial powerhouses like them don't exist anymore
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Eli played well. It was nice to see. I'm happy for him.
That's really all that needs to be said, even if you're ready to move on from the guy.
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Some things are better some things aren't as good.
c'mon ...Greg isn't going out on a limb here. The giants had to contend with the dynasties of the skins and niners not to mention a very good Bears team. Perennial powerhouses like them don't exist anymore
They don't? What are the Patriots?
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
They don't? What are the Patriots?
The exception and not in the NFC
2005: Two NFC East teams in the playoffs
2006: Three NFC East teams in the playoffs
2007: Three NFC East teams in the playoffs
2008: Two NFC East teams in the playoffs
2009: Two NFC East teams in the playoffs
But it was at least two, if not three, of those teams. And that's our division alone.
Maybe some of you don't remember what a dogfight the division was during those years.
The Giants played a pretty high level of competition those years.
Are we going to diminish that too? All in the name of what?
This is a bad, bad team.
I don't see the point in it, actually. But I don't see the point in diminishing team/player accomplishments the way you do, either.
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I normally don't agree with Britt's take, but I agree with him, why put down the 2007/2011 runs to say the Giants teams from the 80's was a harder trek?
It's like people just want to argue for arguments sake.
Minutes after the Giants won last night, the team you supposedly root for, you started a thread mocking Eli. And then spent the next few hours defending the fact that Eli played just alright to squeak by.
My schtick of calling you a fucking moron isn't because I disagree with you. It is because you truly appear to b e a fucking moron in what you post.
Distinguish between the two, asswipe.
Now, my 7 year old pretends to be Eli when he throws. We watch the games together, he wears his Eli jersey.
He'll never know Simms, just like I never knew Tittle or Connerly.
You should learn to appreciate good players while they're playing.
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I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
The Giants being loyal to an incumbent, deteriorating character from the Super Bowls era shouldn't surprise any Giants fan.
That decision ending in anything other than another last place finish and Manning get his teeth kicked in weekly would be the surprise.
Team building changed, and being able to keep rosters together for long periods changed, but the game itself didn't change that much.
Things really didn't start to change until the latter part of the 2000 decade, and to where we are now.
The late 90's and early to middle 2000's were every bit as physical as the 80's.
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Yes, a meaningless win in another lost season. But please go on with your schtick of doing nothing but bullying anyone who disagrees with you. I try real hard to ignore you, but you are an insufferable douche bag. How you have not been banned is beyond me. Everyone is a moron in your eyes. Get the fuck over yourself.
Minutes after the Giants won last night, the team you supposedly root for, you started a thread mocking Eli. And then spent the next few hours defending the fact that Eli played just alright to squeak by.
My schtick of calling you a fucking moron isn't because I disagree with you. It is because you truly appear to b e a fucking moron in what you post.
Distinguish between the two, asswipe.
You are right, my thread was out of line and that is why I deleted it shortly thereafter. That doesn't mean I am a moron or a bad fan. You dont know anything about my intelligence or fandom. I do apologize for calling you a douche bag, I dont want to be that guy. I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
The irony is I basically ridicule posters who actually don't show decency and crap all over the players they supposedly are rooting for. Ridiculing them.
I have no motivation to have decency to morons who have little respect for an organization they supposedly spend much of their time following.
And I don't constantly ridicule people. Just moronic ones.
Now if it comes down to whether or not I'm going to ridicule Eli or you - you're going to win every fucking time.
I also keep hearing the fact that it was against Mullins. Isn't that a reason to be pissed at the D and not Eli?
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I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
The irony is I basically ridicule posters who actually don't show decency and crap all over the players they supposedly are rooting for. Ridiculing them.
I have no motivation to have decency to morons who have little respect for an organization they supposedly spend much of their time following.
And I don't constantly ridicule people. Just moronic ones.
Now if it comes down to whether or not I'm going to ridicule Eli or you - you're going to win every fucking time.
Behind this idea is that you get to decide what the appropriate level of respect for the organization is. That's a ridiculous notion. When you factor that in with an extended period of incompetence and blinkered thinking on the part of the organization, the idea of needing to defend them against much poorly articulated but justified frustration becomes that much more silly.
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I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
The irony is I basically ridicule posters who actually don't show decency and crap all over the players they supposedly are rooting for. Ridiculing them.
I have no motivation to have decency to morons who have little respect for an organization they supposedly spend much of their time following.
And I don't constantly ridicule people. Just moronic ones.
Now if it comes down to whether or not I'm going to ridicule Eli or you - you're going to win every fucking time.
Haha ok Fats...good for you. I dont know why I expected a reasonable response. Please continue to suck in your gut and be the internet tough guy. I also take back my apology. You are a miserable douche bag. I should just heap praise at the players in this organization that have won 5 games in the last two years just to appease your ego.
Now, my 7 year old pretends to be Eli when he throws. We watch the games together, he wears his Eli jersey.
He'll never know Simms, just like I never knew Tittle or Connerly.
You should learn to appreciate good players while they're playing.
This post made me think of my first year playing Pee-Wee football. I won the QB competition for first string. We didn't get our uniforms until nearly the first week so we didn't know our numbers. It was 1989 and I loved Phil Simms and I wanted #11 so bad. The coach came to me and told me there was only one option for me and it was #16. I nearly broke down in tears having to wear Montana's number while I was QB. It was sacrilegious to me. Ha ha. I almost forgot that memory but for some reason your post brought it back to me.
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I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
The irony is I basically ridicule posters who actually don't show decency and crap all over the players they supposedly are rooting for. Ridiculing them.
I have no motivation to have decency to morons who have little respect for an organization they supposedly spend much of their time following.
And I don't constantly ridicule people. Just moronic ones.
Now if it comes down to whether or not I'm going to ridicule Eli or you - you're going to win every fucking time.
Behind this idea is that you get to decide what the appropriate level of respect for the organization is. That's a ridiculous notion. When you factor that in with an extended period of incompetence and blinkered thinking on the part of the organization, the idea of needing to defend them against much poorly articulated but justified frustration becomes that much more silly.
I don't think he rails against criticism or frustration. HE rails against what has become pretty much a fanatical, near religious, prejudice.
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I just wish you would show some decency and stop constantly ridiculing people.
The irony is I basically ridicule posters who actually don't show decency and crap all over the players they supposedly are rooting for. Ridiculing them.
I have no motivation to have decency to morons who have little respect for an organization they supposedly spend much of their time following.
And I don't constantly ridicule people. Just moronic ones.
Now if it comes down to whether or not I'm going to ridicule Eli or you - you're going to win every fucking time.
Behind this idea is that you get to decide what the appropriate level of respect for the organization is. That's a ridiculous notion. When you factor that in with an extended period of incompetence and blinkered thinking on the part of the organization, the idea of needing to defend them against much poorly articulated but justified frustration becomes that much more silly.
I don't think he rails against criticism or frustration. HE rails against what has become pretty much a fanatical, near religious, prejudice.
That's an opinion that issues from a different baseline assessment of how badly the organization has fucked up and what your tolerance for incompetence is/what you think incompetence is.
I don't think it's necessary to have that discussion because it's tired and we both have better things to do. I'm just noting that the "reasonable police" on the board, which is the role FMiC largely casts himself in whether he says so or not, are just as narrow-minded as the people they criticize.
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I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
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I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result
We keep reading your posts.
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Some things are better some things aren't as good.
c'mon ...Greg isn't going out on a limb here. The giants had to contend with the dynasties of the skins and niners not to mention a very good Bears team. Perennial powerhouses like them don't exist anymore
No, those pre-salary cap teams were awesome. But, there wasn't a lot of balance in the NFL back then. Teams were either great or they sucked. It's hard to say which era is tougher to win in. There's more balance now, but the best teams today are not as good as the best teams back in the 80s.
Tough to compare eras for many reasons.
I liked the brand of football from that era a lot more than the football from this era, but I understand the rule changes were made for the long term health of the players and of the game.
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In comment 14175926 Britt in VA said:
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I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result
You know it.
We keep reading your posts.
This is exactly what I am talking about. If you disagree with Les, fine but the constant name calling and shitting on other posters is destroying the integrity of this site. I have been saying this since last year when myself, googs, hassan etc. were getting crushed on here for wanting to move on from Manning. It is absolutely ridiculous.
This is exactly what I am talking about. If you disagree with Les, fine but the constant name calling and shitting on other posters is destroying the integrity of this site. I have been saying this since last year when myself, googs, hassan etc. were getting crushed on here for wanting to move on from Manning. It is absolutely ridiculous.
Oh boo friggity hoo. I dont hear you sticking up for the people who get continually attacked for sticking up for Eli..... I guess you approve when Les calls people fanboys, Cult of Eli, or Eli-lovers.
I think Britt and I have been called more names than anyone else on this site combined.... funny you dont say anything then, right?
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This is exactly what I am talking about. If you disagree with Les, fine but the constant name calling and shitting on other posters is destroying the integrity of this site. I have been saying this since last year when myself, googs, hassan etc. were getting crushed on here for wanting to move on from Manning. It is absolutely ridiculous.
Oh boo friggity hoo. I dont hear you sticking up for the people who get continually attacked for sticking up for Eli..... I guess you approve when Les calls people fanboys, Cult of Eli, or Eli-lovers.
I think Britt and I have been called more names than anyone else on this site combined.... funny you dont say anything then, right?
That's such horseshit. I completely disagree with your views on Eli, but I have never once attacked your character. I even said to Britt in this thread that I think he is a valuable poster. But I sure as shit have seen you personally attack Les and other posters that dont praise Eli.
That's such horseshit. I completely disagree with your views on Eli, but I have never once attacked your character. I even said to Britt in this thread that I think he is a valuable poster. But I sure as shit have seen you personally attack Les and other posters that dont praise Eli.
1. Relax. I wasnt accusing you. I was stating BBI as a whole.
2. You never saw Les attack people by calling them fanboys or use the phrase cult of Eli? That tells me you never read a Les post before in your life.
You cant play the pity card because people here are attacking you when you dont say anything about others attacking people with the opposite viewpoint.
And you're right... people have NEVER attacked me for my views on Eli. You sure you want to go down that road?
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This is exactly what I am talking about. If you disagree with Les, fine but the constant name calling and shitting on other posters is destroying the integrity of this site. I have been saying this since last year when myself, googs, hassan etc. were getting crushed on here for wanting to move on from Manning. It is absolutely ridiculous.
Oh boo friggity hoo. I dont hear you sticking up for the people who get continually attacked for sticking up for Eli..... I guess you approve when Les calls people fanboys, Cult of Eli, or Eli-lovers.
I think Britt and I have been called more names than anyone else on this site combined.... funny you don't say anything then, right?
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In comment 14175926 Britt in VA said:
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I think contrary to the popular opinion shared among you and your constituents, I think there is a very good chance Eli is not only on the roster next year, but is the starter week 1.
Won't be surprised either way. But I know you will be.
That's one thing I can agree with you on. I think there is a pretty good chance Eli is the starter here week 1 next year. Much higher than people realize.
the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result
Les - JonC mentioned this a few months ago as something sort of swirling in the halls of Jints Central. The more of these decent games that Eli plays the more this will have substance. The spell that Eli has on this organization is now in the preposterous zone..
Both are now tarring and feathering each other. Not very healthy or good behavior.
there is no need to bitch about him after a win. there is no need also to gloat excessively about any small acheivement of his.
Just petty and small minded at this point both ways.
NYG07, get over it, its not always about being right. Don't get me wrong, Im no big fan of several of the folks that defend Eli excessively but you are going down a bad rabbit hole.
FMIC, I really think you have been a very strong poster since the inception of the site (and while I havent met you from my inferrence you are 'good people') but you need to really just cut out some of the tone too, I really dont see why people venting has become so problematic for you or the zest with which you are attacking others and defending NYG.
As opposed to you having always been an awful poster?
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you guys are great.
If we lost, you'd probably shit on Eli for leaving too much time on the clock.
We won, so Eli still has to get shit on.
It is unbelievable.
We convert the majority of our 3rd downs, but Eli still was making terrible decisions. OK.
LOL
The best is the guy claiming we check downed too much
I think the best is crafting a narrative out of an incorrect statement and treating it as fact. That's your favorite, isn't it MG? Now you get to do it yourself!
These Eli topics are great and a classic example. The Eli Army gets insulted so they send their "bat signal" to FMiC. He then swoops in and verbally pulverizes the the violator(s).
I must say I find it great theater... ;)