Lorenzo Carter

he's not the ridiculous pass rushing force you want as a starting 34 OLB and he's not stout enough to be a fulltime ILB.

I do like him as a rotational piece, and that's a solid get in the 3rd.

He's a good one

In comment 14175607 mittenedman said:

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he's not the ridiculous pass rushing force you want as a starting 34 OLB and he's not stout enough to be a fulltime ILB. I do like him as a rotational piece, and that's a solid get in the 3rd.

He's in his first year. You will see a huge step up for him in Years 2 and 3. This guy is a keeper, and our ONLY legitimate pass rusher right now.

In comment 14175625 M.S. said:

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In comment 14175607 mittenedman said: Quote: he's not the ridiculous pass rushing force you want as a starting 34 OLB and he's not stout enough to be a fulltime ILB. I do like him as a rotational piece, and that's a solid get in the 3rd. He's in his first year. You will see a huge step up for him in Years 2 and 3. This guy is a keeper, and our ONLY legitimate pass rusher right now.

Have to agree and if the other side of the line would have applied any pressure I am sure he would look even better. He definitely seems to have great speed.

Promise of Vernon. Every year has been the same story. He looks great in preseason and then comes up with some injury that is an excuse for another subpar season. Time to move on.

until about the 3rd quarter when the announcers mentioned him.

Zo looked good

is that he reminds me of Osi in his first year, long and fast. As Osi gained weight, power and pass rushing moves he became the player we all remember.

to judge him as a pass rusher.

In comment 14175607 mittenedman said:

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he's not the ridiculous pass rushing force you want as a starting 34 OLB and he's not stout enough to be a fulltime ILB. I do like him as a rotational piece, and that's a solid get in the 3rd.

Wtf is wrong with people. He’s a rookie who has played minimal snaps. Only recently has his snap count picked up. And he is a force rushing the passer unfortunately he only has one move right now. He’ll work on moves and getting stronger. He’s absolutley going to be the starting OLB next year

He has a very quick first step. He’s one of the first off the line.

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is that he reminds me of Osi in his first year, long and fast. As Osi gained weight, power and pass rushing moves he became the player we all remember.

So you listen to patty on locked on Giants. Cool story at least give her the credit when it’s due. She does really good work on that show.

He is 6'5" 250 and fast. He is a complete LB too. He is perfect for this type of defense with multiple fronts and looks.

I would love for NYG to get Josh Allen from Kentucky and have him bookend with Carter for a few years.

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he's not the ridiculous pass rushing force you want as a starting 34 OLB

The problem is he's not Khalil Mack or Von Miller? Yeah, I guess.

This kid is going to be a very good player within the next couple of years. He's already a handful for offenses to contain and as he has become more and more disruptive. Some of the opinions on this thread are laughable. The kid has a lot to offer and could make it in a variety of roles. What really stood out to me though, and what is most impressive of all from last night, is that after the game he sought out the QB, Mullens, and from what little I could see on tv it seemed that he was really sincere about having an extended conversation as opposed to a quick handshake, where he showed enough concern to want the guy to know that he respected his play and didn't intend to drive him into the ground. Maybe he wanted to make sure Mullens didn't have a concussion, I don't know, but he showed great character, especially for a rookie.

The roughing is a no-call against a player with a rep.

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In comment 14175676 Captplanet said: Quote: is that he reminds me of Osi in his first year, long and fast. As Osi gained weight, power and pass rushing moves he became the player we all remember. So you listen to patty on locked on Giants. Cool story at least give her the credit when it’s due. She does really good work on that show.

Actually I didn't get that from Patty. Apparently great minds think alike.

Please play him all the time and bench Barwin. He adds speed,length and pass rush ability we haven’t seen in a long time. Very nice pick in the 3rd round.

Based on when and where he made contact
Bob in Newburgh : 9:17 am : link : reply
The roughing is a no-call against a player with a rep.

Clay Mathews III?

As for Carter, he is gaining Williams/Kennard status.....but that was a lot of promise that never was fulfilled....

coaching and experience. He was a good pick in round 3.

In comment 14175856 Doomster said:

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Based on when and where he made contact Bob in Newburgh : 9:17 am : link : reply The roughing is a no-call against a player with a rep. Clay Mathews III? As for Carter, he is gaining Williams/Kennard status.....but that was a lot of promise that never was fulfilled....

Carter is way better than Kennard or Williams. Excellent 3rd round pick for DG.

In terms of analogies, he reminds me more of Byron Hunt (old timers may remember him) than anyone else and that is very high praise. Of course, Carter still has a ways to go. Your mileage may vary.

until he lives up to the BBI build up....something Williams and Kennard didn't do...

He makes more of an impact than Martin does when he's in the game.

Has flashed a TON this year. He will be given more and more on his plate as the season progresses and I can't wait to see what more he has to offer. He was all over the place last night in what was his most action of the season.

He can rush the passer and is quick enough to be able to cover as an edge 3-4 OLB. Right now, he has been strictly used as a pass rusher due to being so green.

As was mentioned previously, with a year under the system and in the weight room, this kid is looking like a definite starter and above average player in the near future. Looking forward to watching his progress each game.

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In comment 14175607 mittenedman said: Quote: he's not the ridiculous pass rushing force you want as a starting 34 OLB and he's not stout enough to be a fulltime ILB. I do like him as a rotational piece, and that's a solid get in the 3rd. He's in his first year. You will see a huge step up for him in Years 2 and 3. This guy is a keeper, and our ONLY legitimate pass rusher right now.

Do you often seen huge steps up in years 2 and 3 on this team?

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Do you often seen huge steps up in years 2 and 3 on this team?

Well Tomlinson, Engram, and Apple too huge steps backwards. Does that count?

Where did he take steps back? They traded snacks to put him in that role.

For some odd reason a promising Giants player is much more likely to decline than to continue to ascend.

he's an athletic LBer that can run and tackle. He also adds some pass rush which is critical in a 3-4. I have seen him line up at DE in 4-3 looks and so he can do that as well. Good looking prospect. Hoping that we see continued development this year. I think Barwin's contribution to this team is as a mentor to this kid right now.

the kid is active and athletic, want to see how he develops. The potential is there.

In comment 14175661 Rory B. Bellows said:

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until about the 3rd quarter when the announcers mentioned him. Zo looked good

I agree, also saw Vernon with his hands on hips a few plays where it looked like he really didnt give a crap.