Northwestern at #22 with a 6-4 record. They lost to Akron and only beat Rutgers by 3.
And they're playing in the Big 10 championship. That's hilarious to me.
They're a machine. And this is coming from a die-hard ND fan. Everyone-even Clemson-is playing for second place.
I think Clemson is the only team that can hang with them. College football has gotten pretty top heavy in the playoffs. The same teams get there and make more money then anyone else can compete with.
I don't understand this Shamrock series at all. Notre Dame takes a home game but usually plays this game at or near the opponents home base.
ND's AD actually explained this pretty well today. I was annoyed by it as well but his explanation makes sense.
Before ND signed the 5 game a year deal with the ACC, they agreed to a series with Syracuse and Cuse agreed to move 2 home games to MetLife stadium. Notre Dame agreed to move one of their home games against Cuse to the NYC area. They didnt want to go back on their word and because of the new agreement with ACC it made finding an ideal time for this game pretty impossible.
“There are sort of two dynamics here,” he said. “One is people look at the schedule as a finished product in the year you’re playing it and say, ‘Oh Gosh, I can’t believe you did X and Y.’ They don’t come together that way.
“Syracuse is an eight-year incubation. I’m not going to make a big deal out of it, but Syracuse took two (home) games in the Meadowlands (2014 and 2016). We carried forward a good faith obligation to find one occasion to also play a game back there (in the New York metro area).”
A 2012 agreement signed with Syracuse predated ND’s commitment to play an average of five ACC games a year. In that earlier agreement, Swarbrick said, Syracuse officials agreed to move two games from the Carrier Dome in Syracuse, N.Y., to MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J. The implied return was a future Irish home game to be moved in the same general vicinity.
The ACC commitment, layered on top of the original Syracuse contract, limited the dates when that could actually happen.
“I hate to even engage in these discussions, because you wind up sort of justifying it,” Swarbrick said. “I’m fine with people criticizing it. But they play out over that time.”
Side note, the commentators, like Herbstreit and Galloway, talking about how head to head only comes into play if they think two teams are equal. It's amazing that these guys get paid to do this. Why because it was september 1st does that game not matter? Both teams are far different. Michigan didn't play as well as they could have, but they also got to play a Notre Dame team without Book or Dexter Williams, by far notre dame's two best players on offense. Book is the best player on the entire team.
That fact is totally ignored by clowns like Herbstreit and other morons. I'm also confused how a 10-0 team is not equal to a 9-1 team. Neither team has played a particularly hard schedule.
ND beat Michigan and kicked their ass for most of the game, and the 1 common opponent they had ND never trailed against and Michigan needed a furious comeback from down 17.
Michigan is a good football team, but anyone who thinks they belong above ND in the playoff rankings needs to be taken off of TV immediately. Mike Tirico laid out the case why it's ridiculous to even suggest its debatable who should be #3 pretty well on Saturday night.
If head to head isnt the first thing that matters, why play the games? Hell if head to head doesn't matter when the team that WON the game is undefeated, then just cancel every season from here on out and dont even bother playing. Just pick the 4 teams you think are best in the pre-season and let them play in the playoffs come January
that bad of a deal? 2 for 1, especially where Cuse football was at the time, is not a horrible deal.
Timing wise it worked out great for Cuse too. I'm sure they're thrilled they dont have to go to south bend while they have a shot at a new years 6 bowl
that bad of a deal? 2 for 1, especially where Cuse football was at the time, is not a horrible deal.
Timing wise it worked out great for Cuse too. I'm sure they're thrilled they dont have to go to south bend while they have a shot at a new years 6 bowl
It was actually three home games they gave up because Gross wanted his USC pals to avoid the Dome. Bad deal after bad deal with that shit stain.
Last time Cuse went to SB it turned out ok. But that has nothing to do with Saturday.
like Kirby Smart. Georgia may lose to Alabama (as will every other team), but it won't be 29-0 like LSU lost. Only 2 teams who have a shot at beating Alabama are Clemson and UGA.
First and foremost, Saban has to let Tua get healthy.
The idea that he's going to play against the fucking Citadel on Saturday is ridiculous. They can play Matt Jones, hand the ball off 50 times and win by 4 scores.
Tua shouldn't play again until Georgia.
I'm not worried about Georgia as much as Clemson. But again, Tua has to be healthy. It's a different team without him.
I think Clemson beats Bama. Bama is a near pro team Â
The offense was not nearly as proficient last week. However, their defense is really taking hold. I think Georgia is going to give them a real good game. I am not seeing this idea of steamrolling everybody.
More than likely a team presently not in the top 4 is going to get in. I wonder how the winner of Ohio State/Michigan and Bama losing to Georgia would play out. You can never underestimate the draw of ND even with a loss this week.
Meyer has a strangle hold of Harbaugh and the Michigan program for some reason. Michigan is a different team away from The Big House, and I’m still not sold on the offense. They can be so inconsistent at times.
Ok I can see that point you raise. What about Ohio State winning and Alabama losing a really tough game;let's say Georgia hits a last second field goal? Ohio State had that blowout loss. Alabama has blown everyone out and let's assume they do the same to Auburn.
and doesnt get in, why bother playing any games? Their only loss would be to a top 2-3 team as the first game of the year.
Non conference winners getting in over deserving title teams is a farce.
If 12-1 Michigan gets in over 12-0 ND, after ND beat Michigan, that would be even more damning. What would be the point of playing the games in that scenario? It's not like Michigan's schedule was that much better to overcome an undefeated season and a head to head game?
I'd put 12-1 Michigan over 12-1 Alabama if it comes to that. Alabama has been dominant, but wins and losses matter, and Alabama's schedule is pretty comparable to Michigan IMO. Both Mich and Alabama would have a similar "good" loss (ND & UGA) but IMO Michigan would have more quality wins.
and doesnt get in, why bother playing any games? Their only loss would be to a top 2-3 team as the first game of the year.
Non conference winners getting in over deserving title teams is a farce.
If 12-1 Michigan gets in over 12-0 ND, after ND beat Michigan, that would be even more damning. What would be the point of playing the games in that scenario? It's not like Michigan's schedule was that much better to overcome an undefeated season and a head to head game?
I'd put 12-1 Michigan over 12-1 Alabama if it comes to that. Alabama has been dominant, but wins and losses matter, and Alabama's schedule is pretty comparable to Michigan IMO. Both Mich and Alabama would have a similar "good" loss (ND & UGA) but IMO Michigan would have more quality wins.
Bama has to be out irregardless the score of the title game. ND goes undefeated, then they are in as well.
Ok I can see that point you raise. What about Ohio State winning and Alabama losing a really tough game;let's say Georgia hits a last second field goal? Ohio State had that blowout loss. Alabama has blown everyone out and let's assume they do the same to Auburn.
OSU deserves to be in if they win out as well. They may have to contend with a team like Oklahoma though. There is no way 2 SEC teams should be in this year. U
Well I still think a one loss Bama gets in. Final prediction would be Bama, Georgia, Clemson and ND if they beat Syr and USC. Michigan and Ohio State get left out. Both Oklahoma (already a loss) or even West Virginia (if they beat Okl) left out.
Controversy ensues and next year they expand to 8 team playoff format.
Ok I can see that point you raise. What about Ohio State winning and Alabama losing a really tough game;let's say Georgia hits a last second field goal? Ohio State had that blowout loss. Alabama has blown everyone out and let's assume they do the same to Auburn.
OSU deserves to be in if they win out as well. They may have to contend with a team like Oklahoma though. There is no way 2 SEC teams should be in this year. U
I think Oklahoma will play themselves out of the picture. I like WVU to take them out in Morgantown next week.
Then I think Georgia and Alabama are playing for one spot. I do not expect Alabama to lose though. I also will not buy Michigan beating Ohio State in Columbus until I see it. The Buckeyes have controlled that series.
has had two really close games in the Harbaugh series and one blowout. I mean the screw job in 2015 is well known. One ref was/is banned from doing OSU games for being a hardcore Buckeye fan. The NCAA came out with reports that there were at least 3 blatant calls that favored OSU, and that doesnt even include the "spot".
This is Michigans best chance. This is harbaugh's team he has been grooming. The game will come down to Watson, Hill. and Long. If they can play the corner spot like they have all year - OSU is gonna have a tough time moving the ball.
has had two really close games in the Harbaugh series and one blowout. I mean the screw job in 2015 is well known. One ref was/is banned from doing OSU games for being a hardcore Buckeye fan. The NCAA came out with reports that there were at least 3 blatant calls that favored OSU, and that doesnt even include the "spot".
This is Michigans best chance. This is harbaugh's team he has been grooming. The game will come down to Watson, Hill. and Long. If they can play the corner spot like they have all year - OSU is gonna have a tough time moving the ball.
I think it comes down to whether or not the D can disrupt Haskins' timing. I'm expecting OSU to have problems running the ball, their rushing attack has been middling this year.
The other big differences this year are that Michigan finally has a real QB and OL. Patterson is also a run threat. The OL is the best it has been in over a decade.
since the ND game, but that's some high praise for the Michigan line considering their line got their ass kicked all over the field by ND's dline. Have they faced a top line besides ND?
in a game that happened in Week 1 between two top ranked team. Especially if it was a one score game. Both teams have evolved exponentially since then.
Bama gets in without a doubt if they lose the SEC Championship Â
The committee has made it clear that wins and losses don't necessarily matter like we'd think they would. Head to head matters less. When they decide in early December, their criteria is "Who are the best four teams?"
Georgia could beat Alabama 42-0, and all you'd need is the committee to think "Alabama had an off day" and they're in.
In 2016, Penn State won the Big Ten and beat Ohio State along the way, but the Buckeyes got in because in their opinion, Ohio State was the better team.
In 2017, Alabama doesn't even play for the SEC title, but get in over Big Ten champion Ohio State. Yes, there were other factors named (the Buckeyes ugly loss to Iowa stands out), but ultimately, the committee said, "We think Alabama is a better team than Ohio State."
in a game that happened in Week 1 between two top ranked team. Especially if it was a one score game. Both teams have evolved exponentially since then.
One score game is by box score only. Miles Boykin lined up wrong on a touchdown that was called back, ND gave up a kickoff return for a touchdown. The only time Michigan did anything in the game offensive was when ND went into prevent. Michigan got the ball back down 7 with a couple minutes to go and their line proceeded to get their ass kicked again and Patterson fumbled.
Game wasn't anywhere near as close as the score indicated.
I also don't understand why some (not you B) act like Michigan is the only team that has improved throughout the year.
Michigan fans ignore that ND's two best offensive players by far didn't even play in the game.
RE: Bama gets in without a doubt if they lose the SEC Championship Â
The committee has made it clear that wins and losses don't necessarily matter like we'd think they would. Head to head matters less. When they decide in early December, their criteria is "Who are the best four teams?"
Georgia could beat Alabama 42-0, and all you'd need is the committee to think "Alabama had an off day" and they're in.
In 2016, Penn State won the Big Ten and beat Ohio State along the way, but the Buckeyes got in because in their opinion, Ohio State was the better team.
In 2017, Alabama doesn't even play for the SEC title, but get in over Big Ten champion Ohio State. Yes, there were other factors named (the Buckeyes ugly loss to Iowa stands out), but ultimately, the committee said, "We think Alabama is a better team than Ohio State."
I don't think putting Ohio State in over Penn State in 2016 says anything about what the committee will do this year. Ohio State had 1 loss, Penn State had 2.
Michigan fans are arguing that they should be in the field over an undefeated ND (or ranked above)
I dont know how anyone with a straight face says Michigan at 12-1 belongs in over a 12-0 ND when ND beat them head to head. It is seriously one of the most head scratching things ive ever seen. Add in that Book and Williams didn't even play.
Great, Michigan might win the Big 10. If they do, the Big 10 title game will be Michigan vs. Northwestern. ND beat both, so maybe they are the big 10 champions.
ND could easily lose this weekend or next weekend, but even at 11-1 I dont see how head to head doesnt break the tie. The best thing about college football is that from the very beginning the games are supposed to mean everything.
The biggest difference between the two teams since week 1 is Book and Williams.
I'm going ND 42-24. This is predicated on Book being healthy enough to get through the whole game.
As for The Cuse, Western Michigan dropped 42 on them, Pitt dropped 44, UNC 37, & NCST 41. None of those schools are exactly offensive juggernauts. Clemson only scored 27, but their starting QB got hurt early in the game and the backup was a true freshman that had never played before
And I think ND’s defense is better than any other defense they have played this year outside of Clemson. And Clemson held them to 23.
and doesnt get in, why bother playing any games? Their only loss would be to a top 2-3 team as the first game of the year.
Non conference winners getting in over deserving title teams is a farce.
I try not to get too animated about this stuff because we all know crazy upset or two will happen next two weeks. Probably Syracuse over ND... but maybe Ohio State over Michigan or maybe Alabama craps on Georgia because they should and it's all moot.
but there is NO debate about ND getting in over Michigan if ND wins out. None... and you know that.
The title would be over northwestern... not some powerhouse. ND just won AT northwestern. Easily. End of debate.
I'm going ND 42-24. This is predicated on Book being healthy enough to get through the whole game.
As for The Cuse, Western Michigan dropped 42 on them, Pitt dropped 44, UNC 37, & NCST 41. None of those schools are exactly offensive juggernauts. Clemson only scored 27, but their starting QB got hurt early in the game and the backup was a true freshman that had never played before
And I think ND’s defense is better than any other defense they have played this year outside of Clemson. And Clemson held them to 23.
I hate your post.
But I wouldn't be surprised at your score or even worse.
I don't understand getting upset with the AD over that.
No it's not. The bandwagon legion of non-ND grads always shows up in absolute droves and travels thousands of miles for the school that their kids couldn't gain acceptance to despite all their prayers.
of alumni in NYC. It’s the biggest center of finance and law jobs in the country. Add in Jersey and there’s a ton of alums in the area who would want to go to the game. They don’t need any “bandwagon” fans with such strong alumni support.
Cuse will have plenty of fans too. It should be a fun crowd. Wish I could be there.
RE: Bama gets in without a doubt if they lose the SEC Championship Â
The committee has made it clear that wins and losses don't necessarily matter like we'd think they would. Head to head matters less. When they decide in early December, their criteria is "Who are the best four teams?"
Georgia could beat Alabama 42-0, and all you'd need is the committee to think "Alabama had an off day" and they're in.
In 2016, Penn State won the Big Ten and beat Ohio State along the way, but the Buckeyes got in because in their opinion, Ohio State was the better team.
In 2017, Alabama doesn't even play for the SEC title, but get in over Big Ten champion Ohio State. Yes, there were other factors named (the Buckeyes ugly loss to Iowa stands out), but ultimately, the committee said, "We think Alabama is a better team than Ohio State."
I agree 100% about Bama getting in. I think the only way they're out is if they lose to both Auburn and Georgia.
I don't post here as much ... so you're saying a potential one loss Alabama team if they lose to Georgia shouldn't get in over Michigan. It's tough. But it shouldn't happen ... Bama is so fuckin good.
Why does Bama get in if they aren’t conference champions?
It won’t matter b/c Bama will crush Georgia
If the GA-AL game is a classic, and GA wins, my guess is AL goes over Michigan.
Losing the #5 team on a neutral sight is a "good" loss.
I think Clemson is the only team that can hang with them. College football has gotten pretty top heavy in the playoffs. The same teams get there and make more money then anyone else can compete with.
Played the game for two bags, love it.
I don't understand this Shamrock series at all. Notre Dame takes a home game but usually plays this game at or near the opponents home base.
Clemson seems better now without the QB shuffling and Lawrence gains clutch experience weekly
But it will take a Giants-like miracle for any of those teams to beat bama.
And who knows, Clemson or ND can easily lose before the playoffs. Lots of football left
I don't understand this Shamrock series at all. Notre Dame takes a home game but usually plays this game at or near the opponents home base.
ND's AD actually explained this pretty well today. I was annoyed by it as well but his explanation makes sense.
Before ND signed the 5 game a year deal with the ACC, they agreed to a series with Syracuse and Cuse agreed to move 2 home games to MetLife stadium. Notre Dame agreed to move one of their home games against Cuse to the NYC area. They didnt want to go back on their word and because of the new agreement with ACC it made finding an ideal time for this game pretty impossible.
“There are sort of two dynamics here,” he said. “One is people look at the schedule as a finished product in the year you’re playing it and say, ‘Oh Gosh, I can’t believe you did X and Y.’ They don’t come together that way.
“Syracuse is an eight-year incubation. I’m not going to make a big deal out of it, but Syracuse took two (home) games in the Meadowlands (2014 and 2016). We carried forward a good faith obligation to find one occasion to also play a game back there (in the New York metro area).”
A 2012 agreement signed with Syracuse predated ND’s commitment to play an average of five ACC games a year. In that earlier agreement, Swarbrick said, Syracuse officials agreed to move two games from the Carrier Dome in Syracuse, N.Y., to MetLife Stadium in East Rutherford, N.J. The implied return was a future Irish home game to be moved in the same general vicinity.
The ACC commitment, layered on top of the original Syracuse contract, limited the dates when that could actually happen.
“I hate to even engage in these discussions, because you wind up sort of justifying it,” Swarbrick said. “I’m fine with people criticizing it. But they play out over that time.”
Side note, the commentators, like Herbstreit and Galloway, talking about how head to head only comes into play if they think two teams are equal. It's amazing that these guys get paid to do this. Why because it was september 1st does that game not matter? Both teams are far different. Michigan didn't play as well as they could have, but they also got to play a Notre Dame team without Book or Dexter Williams, by far notre dame's two best players on offense. Book is the best player on the entire team.
That fact is totally ignored by clowns like Herbstreit and other morons. I'm also confused how a 10-0 team is not equal to a 9-1 team. Neither team has played a particularly hard schedule.
ND beat Michigan and kicked their ass for most of the game, and the 1 common opponent they had ND never trailed against and Michigan needed a furious comeback from down 17.
Michigan is a good football team, but anyone who thinks they belong above ND in the playoff rankings needs to be taken off of TV immediately. Mike Tirico laid out the case why it's ridiculous to even suggest its debatable who should be #3 pretty well on Saturday night.
If head to head isnt the first thing that matters, why play the games? Hell if head to head doesn't matter when the team that WON the game is undefeated, then just cancel every season from here on out and dont even bother playing. Just pick the 4 teams you think are best in the pre-season and let them play in the playoffs come January
And fuck Herbstreit. He's still bitter that Syracuse whooped his ass in the fucking Hall of Fame Bowl or whatever back in 1991. He can kiss my ass.
Timing wise it worked out great for Cuse too. I'm sure they're thrilled they dont have to go to south bend while they have a shot at a new years 6 bowl
Timing wise it worked out great for Cuse too. I'm sure they're thrilled they dont have to go to south bend while they have a shot at a new years 6 bowl
It was actually three home games they gave up because Gross wanted his USC pals to avoid the Dome. Bad deal after bad deal with that shit stain.
Last time Cuse went to SB it turned out ok. But that has nothing to do with Saturday.
They also beat Michigan State and Wisconsin. They've played pretty well after some head scratching early season losses.
The idea that he's going to play against the fucking Citadel on Saturday is ridiculous. They can play Matt Jones, hand the ball off 50 times and win by 4 scores.
Tua shouldn't play again until Georgia.
I'm not worried about Georgia as much as Clemson. But again, Tua has to be healthy. It's a different team without him.
More than likely a team presently not in the top 4 is going to get in. I wonder how the winner of Ohio State/Michigan and Bama losing to Georgia would play out. You can never underestimate the draw of ND even with a loss this week.
Meyer has a strangle hold of Harbaugh and the Michigan program for some reason. Michigan is a different team away from The Big House, and I’m still not sold on the offense. They can be so inconsistent at times.
Non conference winners getting in over deserving title teams is a farce.
Non conference winners getting in over deserving title teams is a farce.
If 12-1 Michigan gets in over 12-0 ND, after ND beat Michigan, that would be even more damning. What would be the point of playing the games in that scenario? It's not like Michigan's schedule was that much better to overcome an undefeated season and a head to head game?
I'd put 12-1 Michigan over 12-1 Alabama if it comes to that. Alabama has been dominant, but wins and losses matter, and Alabama's schedule is pretty comparable to Michigan IMO. Both Mich and Alabama would have a similar "good" loss (ND & UGA) but IMO Michigan would have more quality wins.
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and doesnt get in, why bother playing any games? Their only loss would be to a top 2-3 team as the first game of the year.
Non conference winners getting in over deserving title teams is a farce.
If 12-1 Michigan gets in over 12-0 ND, after ND beat Michigan, that would be even more damning. What would be the point of playing the games in that scenario? It's not like Michigan's schedule was that much better to overcome an undefeated season and a head to head game?
I'd put 12-1 Michigan over 12-1 Alabama if it comes to that. Alabama has been dominant, but wins and losses matter, and Alabama's schedule is pretty comparable to Michigan IMO. Both Mich and Alabama would have a similar "good" loss (ND & UGA) but IMO Michigan would have more quality wins.
Bama has to be out irregardless the score of the title game. ND goes undefeated, then they are in as well.
OSU deserves to be in if they win out as well. They may have to contend with a team like Oklahoma though. There is no way 2 SEC teams should be in this year. U
Controversy ensues and next year they expand to 8 team playoff format.
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Ok I can see that point you raise. What about Ohio State winning and Alabama losing a really tough game;let's say Georgia hits a last second field goal? Ohio State had that blowout loss. Alabama has blown everyone out and let's assume they do the same to Auburn.
OSU deserves to be in if they win out as well. They may have to contend with a team like Oklahoma though. There is no way 2 SEC teams should be in this year. U
I think Oklahoma will play themselves out of the picture. I like WVU to take them out in Morgantown next week.
This is Michigans best chance. This is harbaugh's team he has been grooming. The game will come down to Watson, Hill. and Long. If they can play the corner spot like they have all year - OSU is gonna have a tough time moving the ball.
This is Michigans best chance. This is harbaugh's team he has been grooming. The game will come down to Watson, Hill. and Long. If they can play the corner spot like they have all year - OSU is gonna have a tough time moving the ball.
I think it comes down to whether or not the D can disrupt Haskins' timing. I'm expecting OSU to have problems running the ball, their rushing attack has been middling this year.
The other big differences this year are that Michigan finally has a real QB and OL. Patterson is also a run threat. The OL is the best it has been in over a decade.
Oops sorry I thought you meant defense.
Georgia could beat Alabama 42-0, and all you'd need is the committee to think "Alabama had an off day" and they're in.
In 2016, Penn State won the Big Ten and beat Ohio State along the way, but the Buckeyes got in because in their opinion, Ohio State was the better team.
In 2017, Alabama doesn't even play for the SEC title, but get in over Big Ten champion Ohio State. Yes, there were other factors named (the Buckeyes ugly loss to Iowa stands out), but ultimately, the committee said, "We think Alabama is a better team than Ohio State."
One score game is by box score only. Miles Boykin lined up wrong on a touchdown that was called back, ND gave up a kickoff return for a touchdown. The only time Michigan did anything in the game offensive was when ND went into prevent. Michigan got the ball back down 7 with a couple minutes to go and their line proceeded to get their ass kicked again and Patterson fumbled.
Game wasn't anywhere near as close as the score indicated.
I also don't understand why some (not you B) act like Michigan is the only team that has improved throughout the year.
Michigan fans ignore that ND's two best offensive players by far didn't even play in the game.
Georgia could beat Alabama 42-0, and all you'd need is the committee to think "Alabama had an off day" and they're in.
In 2016, Penn State won the Big Ten and beat Ohio State along the way, but the Buckeyes got in because in their opinion, Ohio State was the better team.
In 2017, Alabama doesn't even play for the SEC title, but get in over Big Ten champion Ohio State. Yes, there were other factors named (the Buckeyes ugly loss to Iowa stands out), but ultimately, the committee said, "We think Alabama is a better team than Ohio State."
I don't think putting Ohio State in over Penn State in 2016 says anything about what the committee will do this year. Ohio State had 1 loss, Penn State had 2.
Michigan fans are arguing that they should be in the field over an undefeated ND (or ranked above)
I dont know how anyone with a straight face says Michigan at 12-1 belongs in over a 12-0 ND when ND beat them head to head. It is seriously one of the most head scratching things ive ever seen. Add in that Book and Williams didn't even play.
Great, Michigan might win the Big 10. If they do, the Big 10 title game will be Michigan vs. Northwestern. ND beat both, so maybe they are the big 10 champions.
ND could easily lose this weekend or next weekend, but even at 11-1 I dont see how head to head doesnt break the tie. The best thing about college football is that from the very beginning the games are supposed to mean everything.
The biggest difference between the two teams since week 1 is Book and Williams.
Plus we have a healthy Gary and Tarik Black back.
That is one of my biggest concerns going into Saturday. Cuse struggles after the half defending the run.
Syracuse offense needs to avoid three and outs and needs to cherrypick its tempo game. It's imperative that the defense gets proper rest.
As for The Cuse, Western Michigan dropped 42 on them, Pitt dropped 44, UNC 37, & NCST 41. None of those schools are exactly offensive juggernauts. Clemson only scored 27, but their starting QB got hurt early in the game and the backup was a true freshman that had never played before
And I think ND’s defense is better than any other defense they have played this year outside of Clemson. And Clemson held them to 23.
Non conference winners getting in over deserving title teams is a farce.
I try not to get too animated about this stuff because we all know crazy upset or two will happen next two weeks. Probably Syracuse over ND... but maybe Ohio State over Michigan or maybe Alabama craps on Georgia because they should and it's all moot.
but there is NO debate about ND getting in over Michigan if ND wins out. None... and you know that.
The title would be over northwestern... not some powerhouse. ND just won AT northwestern. Easily. End of debate.
As for The Cuse, Western Michigan dropped 42 on them, Pitt dropped 44, UNC 37, & NCST 41. None of those schools are exactly offensive juggernauts. Clemson only scored 27, but their starting QB got hurt early in the game and the backup was a true freshman that had never played before
And I think ND’s defense is better than any other defense they have played this year outside of Clemson. And Clemson held them to 23.
I hate your post.
But I wouldn't be surprised at your score or even worse.
No it's not. The bandwagon legion of non-ND grads always shows up in absolute droves and travels thousands of miles for the school that their kids couldn't gain acceptance to despite all their prayers.
Sorry. That's harsh. But complete truth.
Cuse will have plenty of fans too. It should be a fun crowd. Wish I could be there.
Georgia could beat Alabama 42-0, and all you'd need is the committee to think "Alabama had an off day" and they're in.
In 2016, Penn State won the Big Ten and beat Ohio State along the way, but the Buckeyes got in because in their opinion, Ohio State was the better team.
In 2017, Alabama doesn't even play for the SEC title, but get in over Big Ten champion Ohio State. Yes, there were other factors named (the Buckeyes ugly loss to Iowa stands out), but ultimately, the committee said, "We think Alabama is a better team than Ohio State."
I agree 100% about Bama getting in. I think the only way they're out is if they lose to both Auburn and Georgia.
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and doesnt get in, why bother playing any games? Their only loss would be to a top 2-3 team as the first game of the year.
Non conference winners getting in over deserving title teams is a farce.
but there is NO debate about ND getting in over Michigan if ND wins out. None... and you know that.
The title would be over northwestern... not some powerhouse. ND just won AT northwestern. Easily. End of debate.
I have said this from the beginning. If ND goes undefeated... they are in. I don’t know who is disagreeing with this? I sure as hell haven’t.
Higher probability ND or Michigan lose