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NFT: Knicks Chat: Speculation on Durant's top 3 destinations

DanMetroMan : 11/14/2018 9:43 am
Could be 100% BS but the whispers floating around are that NYK/WAS as at the top of Durant's list and that the Sixers are also very high which is one reason they may not want to take on Courtney Lee, which would help the Knicks shot at Durant.

-Everyone is denying the report Green mentioned Durant's FA status (doesn't mean it's untrue) but multiple reports say Green called Durant a "bitch" repeatedly during their fight.
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i think starters will benefit  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 2:22 pm : link
from having mudiay and knox, they needed more scoring, and mudiay hopefully will get hardaway and knox open looks..

the bench will benefit from the defense of frank and dot..
Mudiay tends to fail  
Eli Wilson : 11/14/2018 2:36 pm : link
whenever he is in the starting lineup. Hopefully that changes, but maybe he's just better coming off the bench.

Career #s
Starter - .361/.311/.704
Reserve - .400/.333/.779
Everyone has now been benched  
ghost718 : 11/14/2018 3:51 pm : link
Except Timmy HardHead

I'm sure Fizdale is getting more popular everyday

Knicks have to show KD they can be a championship team  
Vanzetti : 11/14/2018 4:47 pm : link
As fans, we get excited by young guys like Frank and Knox, but that doesn't mean anything to a superstar like KD. He has played these guys and dominated them. He is not coming to NY to play with developmental projects.

I also don't think KP's reputation around the league is quite what it is among Knicks fans. I think he is regarded as a top 25 player but not a superstar.

Which leads me to believe Steven A Smith is right: KP has to come back this year and show he is the same player, and someone like Knox has to step forward and show he can be a player in this league. KD has to be convinced that he is the final piece, and I don't see how he could reach that conclusion with the ragtag group the Knicks are currently putting out there.
I  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2018 4:50 pm : link
don't think most fans are excited by Frank right now. Quite the opposite. One of the real negatives is how poor he has looked. Redraft he doesn't go top 10.
If Durant was looking to be the final piece somewhere  
Strahan91 : 11/14/2018 4:58 pm : link
he wouldn't leave Golden State. This would be about more than winning championships a la Lebron to LA. Durant's a bit of an odd guy so who knows what he'll be thinking when the time comes. I'm skeptical but if what he's looking for is related to his legacy and he wants to be the alpha dog with the ball in his hands at all times then there's a shot.
..  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 5:03 pm : link
His view of Knox and Trier is definitely a positive 1 and we already know how he views kp..

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TyreeHelmet : 11/14/2018 5:12 pm : link
In comment 14177784 nygiants16 said:
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His view of Knox and Trier is definitely a positive 1 and we already know how he views kp..


I think Knox and Frank are really going to need to step it up. I'm higher on most than Frank but he's shown no improvement on offense this season. Trier/ Dotson/ Mitch will need to continue to improve as the season progresses- not easy to do as very young players.

I go back and forth on whether KP needs to come back. Ideally he comes back for 10-15 games towards the end of the season very cautiously and shows hes fully recovered without effecting the tank too much. Durant and Free agency is a zero sum game and the Knicks need to maximize their chances at top pick in the draft...
If you dropped KD, KP and a top six pick  
bceagle05 : 11/14/2018 5:16 pm : link
onto the worst team in the league - the Cavaliers, in this case - they're an immediate contender. This stuff can happen overnight, as we've seen in recent years with Miami and Boston. In the Knicks case, point guard would still be a major concern, unless they take a good one in the draft (the Vandy PG seems like the only one who makes the grade). If KD goes elsewhere, you just keep grinding.
I  
DanMetroMan : 11/14/2018 5:16 pm : link
mean nothing stops KP from calling Durant at the opening of FA and asking him to come work out with him to prove his health. It's not traditional but it's not absurd.
WOJ on michael kay  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 5:16 pm : link
basically just said it is not happening, so we can go back to are regularly scheduled tank
RE: I  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 5:17 pm : link
In comment 14177797 DanMetroMan said:
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mean nothing stops KP from calling Durant at the opening of FA and asking him to come work out with him to prove his health. It's not traditional but it's not absurd.


durant is not goimg to latvia
RE: RE: RE: I think KD is a goner after this season &  
gmenatlarge : 11/14/2018 5:20 pm : link
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that the Knicks should be considered favorites to land him. I honestly believe that.



While that would be nice to believe, I just can't see this happening, this guy is WAY too sensitive to handle the NY media, he'll just use the Knicks to run the price up.



Run what price up? He is going to get a max contract no matter where he goes.


Golden state can offer 60 million more than anyone else, is that enough money for you?
RE: WOJ on michael kay  
TyreeHelmet : 11/14/2018 5:20 pm : link
In comment 14177798 nygiants16 said:
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basically just said it is not happening, so we can go back to are regularly scheduled tank


What did he say?
I'll tell you what,if this goes in  
ghost718 : 11/14/2018 5:25 pm : link
It means we're gonna sign Durant

RE: RE: WOJ on michael kay  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 5:26 pm : link
In comment 14177802 TyreeHelmet said:
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basically just said it is not happening, so we can go back to are regularly scheduled tank



What did he say?


basically said he doesnt think durant will be able to handle the new york media and fans because the knicks still stink and are not ready to contend...

they pushed and asked if he thought he would consider the knicks, basically said no
RE: RE: RE: RE: I think KD is a goner after this season &  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 5:27 pm : link
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that the Knicks should be considered favorites to land him. I honestly believe that.



While that would be nice to believe, I just can't see this happening, this guy is WAY too sensitive to handle the NY media, he'll just use the Knicks to run the price up.



Run what price up? He is going to get a max contract no matter where he goes.



Golden state can offer 60 million more than anyone else, is that enough money for you?


wtf are you talking about? he doesnt need the knicks to get the max
I have nothing against Woj but  
Giantology : 11/14/2018 6:44 pm : link
He has no idea what is gonna happen, its way too early to tell and make proclamations like that. But, that doesn't make for good radio.
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chopperhatch : 11/14/2018 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14177799 nygiants16 said:
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mean nothing stops KP from calling Durant at the opening of FA and asking him to come work out with him to prove his health. It's not traditional but it's not absurd.



durant is not goimg to latvia


But it would be alot cooler if he did
RE: I have nothing against Woj but  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 6:53 pm : link
In comment 14177875 Giantology said:
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He has no idea what is gonna happen, its way too early to tell and make proclamations like that. But, that doesn't make for good radio.


the knicks cant even keep their homegrown draft pick happy and in the city during the summer, hpw they going to recruit 1 of the best players in the NBA?

This notion that Durant is going tk leave a championship team for the doldrums of the knicks is moronic...

If he leaves why would he not just go to LA and team up with lebron and play for the flagship organization OR go to the clippers and play with kawhi?
sit hardaway on the fucking bench  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 8:17 pm : link
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Knicks quickly down 19-8  
Del Shofner : 11/14/2018 8:18 pm : link
- OKC is good but the Knicks look bad. Not sure Knox is ready for prime time.
why take out knkx?  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 8:26 pm : link
he just made a 3...leave him in
so glad fiz took knox out for hezonja  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 8:28 pm : link
made a ton of sense...

frank cant even turn the corner with a pick, the airballs a 3
I've hated Wok since he was a shitty Yankees reporter  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2018 8:30 pm : link
See no reason to stop now
frank is garbage  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 8:33 pm : link
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hezonja is a bum  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 8:35 pm : link
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Felton getting the Jordan treatment from the refs.  
bceagle05 : 11/14/2018 8:41 pm : link
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RE: Felton getting the Jordan treatment from the refs.  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2018 8:47 pm : link
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How the hell is that useless clown still in thr league?
it is laughable to think this is some new knicks  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 8:59 pm : link
it is still a team filled with bums, they have 2 maybe 3 keepers on this team...It is going to be a long long time before this team is any good...
they are still the laughing stock of the league  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 8:59 pm : link
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Shooting  
TyreeHelmet : 11/14/2018 9:26 pm : link
This team just seriously lacks shooting. What’s the deal with Lee?
RE: Shooting  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 9:28 pm : link
In comment 14177986 TyreeHelmet said:
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This team just seriously lacks shooting. What’s the deal with Lee?


they lack everything
Hardaway  
TyreeHelmet : 11/14/2018 9:29 pm : link
Has such a poor b-ball iq. Dumb shots and awful defensive instincts.
embarrassment  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 9:29 pm : link
they should be selling off parts not thinking about kevin durant
team is full of stupid  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 9:37 pm : link
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RE: embarrassment  
TyreeHelmet : 11/14/2018 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14177990 nygiants16 said:
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they should be selling off parts not thinking about kevin durant


You are the usually the positive one- what’s going on?

This team is going to lose a lot. They are young without many good players. I have no idea what Fiz is doing though. Where is Frank? I don’t get this.
RE: RE: embarrassment  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 9:50 pm : link
In comment 14178002 TyreeHelmet said:
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they should be selling off parts not thinking about kevin durant



You are the usually the positive one- what’s going on?

This team is going to lose a lot. They are young without many good players. I have no idea what Fiz is doing though. Where is Frank? I don’t get this.


it is the same shit every year and same "hope" this year jjst has a better salesman...

still the same shit plan, pray and hope the shiny free agent comes and when he doesnt spend the money on a lesser player you have to overpay to come...

same garbage different year....
i am tired of falling for it  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 9:51 pm : link
yay they are not trading draft picks woohoo...
and dont give me the culture bullshit  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 9:54 pm : link
same laughing stock they were last year and it is a team full of selfish chuckers looking to get theres because they all know they will not be here next year...

and the worst part they will max out kp and be stuck with this gsrbage
Wally is such an idiot.  
bceagle05 : 11/14/2018 9:57 pm : link
"Kanter's putting in work!"

He's made Steve Adams look like Wilt, and it's been a layup line for OKC all night.
smart thing  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 10:07 pm : link
trade kanter to a team looking to unload a contract, get a draft pick and a young asset...

also i would see if you can get a haul for KP, you cant max him out and have nothing around him...

if someone is willing to give you young players and picks you have to think about it
15 down, 67 to go.  
bceagle05 : 11/14/2018 10:18 pm : link
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RE: 15 down, 67 to go.  
Del Shofner : 11/14/2018 10:51 pm : link
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They did look worse than usual tonight.
Teenagers and Kids in their early 20s will struggle to compete.  
JustaDiscussion : 11/14/2018 10:52 pm : link
We knew this going in. It takes players time to develop, with the occasional anomaly. It just so happens that the NBA had two rookies last year in Tatum and Mitchell who played far above the average rookie. Maybe that skewed the expectations for some.

I haven't lost any hope for the Knicks going forward, at least yet. Granted I didn't expect them to seriously compete for much for at least 3-5 years, assuming they aren't able to get any legitimate free agents, so for me nothing much has changed. I still think KP, Frank, Trier, Knox, Dotson, and Robinson could turn out to be good to great players if developed properly.

Granted, I admit it's hard to watch young players struggle whether it's expected or not. It's even harder to watch the THjr and Kanter's of he world play just well enough to steel minutes from younger players but not well enough to compete for anything.

That all being said, I'm not going to worry about the future of the Knicks until they make some dumb off season moves or unless all of these kids still play like this in 2 or 3 seasons.
Trading Porzingis helps them how, exactly?  
Greg from LI : 11/14/2018 10:59 pm : link
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RE: Trading Porzingis helps them how, exactly?  
nygiants16 : 11/14/2018 11:15 pm : link
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if you get a haul, for example a young player and draft pick...

this team is going to be garbage for a long time with or without kp, you max him out and this team is capped out with nothing on the roster...

kp is good but he is not good enough to carry a team
Assuming KP eventually gets back to 100%  
steve in ky : 11/14/2018 11:49 pm : link
He is the best talent they have. At some point you have to start building around someone. If you trade him your just hoping to use the picks gained to draft someone of his caliber anyway so I don't see the advantage of trading him at this point. Can't kick the rebuild down the road forever.
We can debate what they should do all we want  
bceagle05 : 11/15/2018 12:07 am : link
but the reality is they're gonna knock these remaining 67 games off the calendar, make their draft pick and throw money at whoever is willing to take it.

Mills and Perry are confident they can develop players and attract free agents - they'll have opportunities to prove it.
Dont  
Jon in NYC : 11/15/2018 8:12 am : link
look now but the tank is right on schedule. 4th worst record in the league, and remember, top 3 all now have an equal shot at no. 1
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