NFT: Knicks Chat: Speculation on Durant's top 3 destinations

but the team that needs to tear it down...

Michael Jordan and the Charlotte. I just dont see this team going anywhere anytime soon. They will be consistently fighting for an 8th seed and need to burn it down and start over. Get rid of Williams and Zellner. Play the kids more.

I actually think trading Batum is a must since he will net a good return. Also, they should be open trading Kemba. While a good player - he is going to want huge money after the year, and he just isnt worth it. He is a good 3rd option for a winning team.... but he is not good enough to carry a team in a playoff series.

Batum to 76ers would be interesting.
Kemba to SA would be interesting as well.

Haven't heard Washington or Philly, though Washington makes sense since KD is from the area.

of project. Maybe if KP came back early and we made a run at the playoffs, maybe. This team will be much closer to the #1 pick than it will the playoffs. We are a year or two from enticing a star, IMO.

In comment 14177253 Keith said:

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of project. Maybe if KP came back early and we made a run at the playoffs, maybe. This team will be much closer to the #1 pick than it will the playoffs. We are a year or two from enticing a star, IMO.

were the lakers close to a championship when they got lebron?

you could argue the combo of durant and kp is 1 of the top in the east, Hardaway as your 3rd guy until Knox is ready plus another top 5 pick it is a good young core...


having said that he is not coming

both would not have the cap space unless the sixers let butler walk...

wizards have porter, beal, and wall making 92 million, add 16 to that for mahimi

makes a lot more sense than people give them credit for. They are his home town team, already have Wall/Beal in place. He wouldn't look like his ring chasing when the team is 4-9 but those 3 + the guys who sign with teams who ARE ring chasing and suddenly they are very, very interesting. I assume they have to move salaries like Porter Jr. etc but I don't think it's an outlandish option... if Brooks last all season he is also another positive for Washington as Durant has openly praised Brooks in the past.

Oh well, looks like Durant to NY is a 100% locked in - start printing up those championship banners!

In comment 14177258 nygiants16 said:

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having said that he is not coming

Weren't you one of the first people on here who bought into the hype of him coming and kept saying he was gonna be a Knick? Or was that someone else. Legit asking because if so, why the change in stance?

In comment 14177260 nygiants16 said:

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both would not have the cap space unless the sixers let butler walk... wizards have porter, beal, and wall making 92 million, add 16 to that for mahimi

Porter is off to a rough start but the 3 seasons prior .152 WS/48 and he's only 25, I'm sure there would be a market especially if the Wizards pick high, they could use the pick to move salary.

of Durant going back on the court after the argument in the huddle and pretty clearly saying, "That's why I'm out."

In comment 14177264 LawrenceTaylor56 said:

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In comment 14177258 nygiants16 said: Quote: having said that he is not coming Weren't you one of the first people on here who bought into the hype of him coming and kept saying he was gonna be a Knick? Or was that someone else. Legit asking because if so, why the change in stance?

the only thing i agreed with is i see why people make the connection but u have been on here consistently saying he is not coming...

and i still dont think he leaves golden state

In comment 14177265 DanMetroMan said:

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In comment 14177260 nygiants16 said: Quote: both would not have the cap space unless the sixers let butler walk... wizards have porter, beal, and wall making 92 million, add 16 to that for mahimi Porter is off to a rough start but the 3 seasons prior .152 WS/48 and he's only 25, I'm sure there would be a market especially if the Wizards pick high, they could use the pick to move salary.

they would need to move a lot more than just porter...

probably have to move porter and 1 of wall or beal to get close to the 36 million for durant

In comment 14177267 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14177264 LawrenceTaylor56 said: Quote: In comment 14177258 nygiants16 said: Quote: having said that he is not coming Weren't you one of the first people on here who bought into the hype of him coming and kept saying he was gonna be a Knick? Or was that someone else. Legit asking because if so, why the change in stance? the only thing i agreed with is i see why people make the connection but u have been on here consistently saying he is not coming... and i still dont think he leaves golden state

i have been saying not u

if we knew Durant wasn't coming here and the Wizards really wanted to chase Durant

Kanter and Mudiay (both expiring) for Porter Jr and the Wizards pick

Make it happen!

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if we knew Durant wasn't coming here and the Wizards really wanted to chase Durant Kanter and Mudiay (both expiring) for Porter Jr and the Wizards pick

you would think mills knows if durant is thinking about coming or not, he is very close with durants business manager

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After Durant and Draymond Green got into an argument during and following Golden State's 121-116 overtime loss to the Los Angeles Clippers on Monday, a Warriors player told The Athletic's Marcus Thompson II that Durant is as good as gone: "With what was said, there is already no way Durant is coming back. The only hope is that they can say this summer, 'See, KD. We've got your back. We protected you from Draymond.'"

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Make it happen!

that was a capped out (e.g. Wizards) the teams could always work out a sign-and-trade. That's something GS would likely prefer as they're going to be limited in what they can do to replace KD due to their own cap concerns if he leaves.

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that was a capped out (e.g. Wizards) the teams could always work out a sign-and-trade. That's something GS would likely prefer as they're going to be limited in what they can do to replace KD due to their own cap concerns if he leaves.

wizards cant do a sign and trade, they would be hard capped and not able to fill out their roster

that the Knicks should be considered favorites to land him. I honestly believe that.

In comment 14177291 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14177289 Enzo said: Quote: that was a capped out (e.g. Wizards) the teams could always work out a sign-and-trade. That's something GS would likely prefer as they're going to be limited in what they can do to replace KD due to their own cap concerns if he leaves. wizards cant do a sign and trade, they would be hard capped and not able to fill out their roster

sure they could. There's many different permutations of how they could build their roster before and after a potential sign-and-trade.

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In comment 14177291 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14177289 Enzo said: Quote: that was a capped out (e.g. Wizards) the teams could always work out a sign-and-trade. That's something GS would likely prefer as they're going to be limited in what they can do to replace KD due to their own cap concerns if he leaves. wizards cant do a sign and trade, they would be hard capped and not able to fill out their roster sure they could. There's many different permutations of how they could build their roster before and after a potential sign-and-trade.

They couldnt do it, once you are hard capped you can not go over even for a vet minimum contract, that means no draft picks and no vet ring chasers

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that the Knicks should be considered favorites to land him. I honestly believe that.

It's not some crazy notion. I'm not getting carried away thinking about it, but the Knicks have as good as shot as anyone. The biggest obstacle is getting him out of Golden State, and that seems more likely by the day.

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In comment 14177299 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: that the Knicks should be considered favorites to land him. I honestly believe that. It's not some crazy notion. I'm not getting carried away thinking about it, but the Knicks have as good as shot as anyone. The biggest obstacle is getting him out of Golden State, and that seems more likely by the day.

he is either staying in golden state or going to the clippers with kawhi...

nearly as much as I once did. I get most of my info from these threads, so thank you to all of you. Is there any concern with Duarant turning 31 next year? Obviously he is ridiculously good, I am just wondering how long you guys think he will be able to sustain such a high level of performance?

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he is either staying in golden state or going to the clippers with kawhi...

I guess that's possible? He could do a lot of things. Kawhi could stay in Toronto like George stayed in OKC. Ballmer is certainly more of an asset in recruiting than Jimmy Dolan, that's for sure.

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nearly as much as I once did. I get most of my info from these threads, so thank you to all of you. Is there any concern with Duarant turning 31 next year? Obviously he is ridiculously good, I am just wondering how long you guys think he will be able to sustain such a high level of performance?

I guess wear and tear is a concern for any athlete in his thirties, but Durant is unguardable because he's 6'11" and can get his shot over anyone. He'll rely on that even if he loses a step.

In comment 14177307 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14177301 Enzo said: Quote: In comment 14177291 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14177289 Enzo said: Quote: that was a capped out (e.g. Wizards) the teams could always work out a sign-and-trade. That's something GS would likely prefer as they're going to be limited in what they can do to replace KD due to their own cap concerns if he leaves. wizards cant do a sign and trade, they would be hard capped and not able to fill out their roster sure they could. There's many different permutations of how they could build their roster before and after a potential sign-and-trade. They couldnt do it, once you are hard capped you can not go over even for a vet minimum contract, that means no draft picks and no vet ring chasers

there's a million different ways to manipulate a roster to make it happen. And there's like 10 teams in the league that hard capped RIGHT NOW. You make it sound like it's a death sentence.

And I am not saying he is coming. I am saying there is reasoning.

1) Durant has been said to be a player that is very aware of his legacy in the NBA. Winning ONE championship in NY would be bigger in terms of legacy that winning three in Oaktown because New York hasnt won in so long and NYC is the mecca of basketball. NY is first and foremost a basketball town. Players are well aware of this.

2) The Knicks are finally looking like a functional basketball operation. Mills, Perry and Fizdale come off as competent, professional and having a plan. Perry and Fizdale are respected in the league in terms of having a basketball background.

3) The Knicks finally have money and draft picks going forward. This was not the case in years past. They were always close to being capped out and had to thrown in picks just to make mediocre moves. This is no longer the case. The Knicks will have more money going forward and they own all their first round picks.

4) There is something of a nucleus of talent. Frankie Smokes already plays elite defense as a guard. Big Mitch is only going to improve. Knox looks like he will continue to develop. Alonzo Trier is a STEAL !!!! OMG !!!!! A Healthy KP will only add to the attraction. ThJr has his limitation but becomes a third option with Durant on the team at best.. and is moveable in two years with an expiring contract.

5) The Knicks being bad is a good thing. They will play the rookies more to give them more burn. They will get the playing and development they desperately need. They will also lose games. This will give the Knicks a very good shot at Zion, Reddish or Barnett.

6) KD's business partner is from NY and an Avid Knicks Fan. NY has a plethora of business opportunity from him, building his brand and extending it even PAST basketball.

7) Scott Perry was a part of the front office that drafted him in Seattle.

8) Knicks assistant Royal Ivey is a former teammate and friend of Durant.

9) Durant knows Trier from when he was a kid in Seattle.

Trier comments on Durant

“Our relationship has gone all the way through, even until now,” Trier said via the New York Post. “We text, talk and keep in touch all the time. He’s my role model. And if I need anything, I can talk to him — not just about basketball but life.”

10) The NBA would LOVE Durant in NY.. Huge TV Market. HUGE Prime Time games in NY again.. NY-Boston. NY-Philly.
NY-LA games.. NY plays Golden State...WHAT ??? !!!!!!!!!!!!

There are PLENTY of reasons Durant should consider NY..

that doesnt mean he will.. but fans should readily dismiss the idea that he wont consider it..

In comment 14177299 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:

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that the Knicks should be considered favorites to land him. I honestly believe that.

While that would be nice to believe, I just can't see this happening, this guy is WAY too sensitive to handle the NY media, he'll just use the Knicks to run the price up.

In comment 14177348 gmenatlarge said:

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In comment 14177299 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: that the Knicks should be considered favorites to land him. I honestly believe that. While that would be nice to believe, I just can't see this happening, this guy is WAY too sensitive to handle the NY media, he'll just use the Knicks to run the price up.

run what price up?

In comment 14177348 gmenatlarge said:

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In comment 14177299 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: that the Knicks should be considered favorites to land him. I honestly believe that. While that would be nice to believe, I just can't see this happening, this guy is WAY too sensitive to handle the NY media, he'll just use the Knicks to run the price up.

Run what price up? He is going to get a max contract no matter where he goes.

I don’t see the DC move. He’s spoken in the past about not wanting to play in his hometown and I’ve heard this is a common feeling among players. And Wall is becoming one of the if not the worst contract in the league. And if you move Beal or Porter, that takes away the appeal.

I could see the Clippers but not because of Ballmer over Dolan. That has such a small if any impact. And does he really want to play 2nd fiddle to the Lakers and Lebron.

I think the Knicks have a good shot. Some work needs to be done but they have a chance. I’m sure there will be other options no one is talking about, bu when there’s this much smoke around a story in the NBA, there is usually fire i.e Lebron to the Lakers.

I understand the negative view of the Knicks with Dolan as owner. I am much more a NFL and Giant fan.

However, I still think NYC gets the most excited when they have a championship caliber team. I loved the Riley years.

There is no place like the Garden when NY knows they have a championship team. The legacy that Durant would have if he were to win here or any star for that matter would be immeasurable imo. It certainly would mitigate some of the negative views on Durant although I am not one who shares the negative perception on him

how Durant feels about Scott Brooks.

but Otto is a glue guy who is paid like a superstar. He is owed 55 mill over the next two seasons. I live in the area so i watch a good amount of the Wiz. Otto is pretty much what we thought he would be when he came out, he is a solid all around player who excels at nothing. I know this will sound like im trashing him, but to make a knicks reference he is essentially a rich mans lance thomas. Which is useful, but he should be making like 13-15 mill max, not 26.

I dont buy Durant to WAS, Wiz didnt even get a meeting with him when he was a FA. I think this is someones guess and since he is from the area they are throwing WAS in the mix. Plus this Wiz team is a mess, Beal and Wall are not a good duo, they dont work at all together.

KP is already doing contact drills and sais the minute they clear him he is going to be back, sounds like he is missing it more than he thought

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but Otto is a glue guy who is paid like a superstar. He is owed 55 mill over the next two seasons. I live in the area so i watch a good amount of the Wiz. Otto is pretty much what we thought he would be when he came out, he is a solid all around player who excels at nothing. I know this will sound like im trashing him, but to make a knicks reference he is essentially a rich mans lance thomas. Which is useful, but he should be making like 13-15 mill max, not 26. I dont buy Durant to WAS, Wiz didnt even get a meeting with him when he was a FA. I think this is someones guess and since he is from the area they are throwing WAS in the mix. Plus this Wiz team is a mess, Beal and Wall are not a good duo, they dont work at all together.

Wall seems like a cancer. Wouldn't be surprised if he's shipped out at some point.

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but Otto is a glue guy who is paid like a superstar. He is owed 55 mill over the next two seasons. I live in the area so i watch a good amount of the Wiz. Otto is pretty much what we thought he would be when he came out, he is a solid all around player who excels at nothing. I know this will sound like im trashing him, but to make a knicks reference he is essentially a rich mans lance thomas. Which is useful, but he should be making like 13-15 mill max, not 26.

they were in a tough spot with Porter. If I recall correctly they were close to capped out so if they didn't match they had no way to replace him. Plus he was still young enough that there was reason to think he would improve and his best years were ahead of him. But yeah - his production is currently not in line with his salary.

Making the assumption that KD comes here next year AND that they play “position less “ basketball, how does the lineup work? How do you get KD, KP and Knox all on the floor at the same time. Great problem to have- just wondering?

ugh.

Frank and Dotson to the bench. Got get'em, Kev!

Anyway, poor Mitch better block 100 shots with that defensive lineup.

come tell us that we are all assuming KD is coming here. Pretty much everyone says we know its a long shot, but its possible.

Either way, You could play KP at Center which many people think he would fit the best at. Im not sure i love it, but if we get Durant we can figure it out then.

Who starts the second half of the season will tell us who Fiz sees as his “core”. Wins are almost beside the point right now. ( a refreshing plan finally).

That’s why I brought it up.

got KD then KP might be a bit more willing. Or you use knox as your backup at the 3 and the 4 and he can still get 30ish minutes. Plus a lot of teams have real shit SG's and/or C's so KP can play a bit C against those teams and Knox could play a bit of SG. I mean you dont want to keep changing your starting lineup, but starting lineups are really not that important.

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but the team that needs to tear it down... Michael Jordan and the Charlotte. I just dont see this team going anywhere anytime soon. They will be consistently fighting for an 8th seed and need to burn it down and start over. Get rid of Williams and Zellner. Play the kids more. I actually think trading Batum is a must since he will net a good return. Also, they should be open trading Kemba. While a good player - he is going to want huge money after the year, and he just isnt worth it. He is a good 3rd option for a winning team.... but he is not good enough to carry a team in a playoff series. Batum to 76ers would be interesting. Kemba to SA would be interesting as well.

No one is picking up Batums contract. Plus he’s so injury prone

In comment 14177260 nygiants16 said:

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both would not have the cap space unless the sixers let butler walk... wizards have porter, beal, and wall making 92 million, add 16 to that for mahimi

Sixers can sign Durant if they trade Fultz

In comment 14177531 Earl the goat said:

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In comment 14177260 nygiants16 said: Quote: both would not have the cap space unless the sixers let butler walk... wizards have porter, beal, and wall making 92 million, add 16 to that for mahimi Sixers can sign Durant if they trade Fultz

no they cant

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of project. Maybe if KP came back early and we made a run at the playoffs, maybe. This team will be much closer to the #1 pick than it will the playoffs. We are a year or two from enticing a star, IMO.

With KP this team is nowhere near number one pick status. Not even close. They would have won 37 or so games last year with KP in the lineup.

Are you really suggesting that a lineup consisting of KP and Durant and some other decent vets isn’t winning 50 games in their sleep?

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how Durant feels about Scott Brooks.

Raved about him in interviews (this was after Brooks was Wizards coach)

“He’s a good coach, man. A good coach,” Durant said in an interview with The Post last week, ahead of Tuesday’s game between the Warriors and Wizards at Verizon Center. “He’s one of those guys you would run through a wall for.

“Me and Scott talk more about family and life in general, everything, man. We talked about real-life stuff, and you appreciate a coach like that. I feel like every coach I’ve had has been like that, and that makes it really easy to play for them.

“Scotty is one of those guys, and you can tell John [Wall] and [Bradley Beal] love playing for him.”

In comment 14177534 nygiants16 said:

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In comment 14177531 Earl the goat said: Quote: In comment 14177260 nygiants16 said: Quote: both would not have the cap space unless the sixers let butler walk... wizards have porter, beal, and wall making 92 million, add 16 to that for mahimi Sixers can sign Durant if they trade Fultz no they cant

Please explain. Without Fultz contract they are on the books for 61 million
Sign Durant to 30-35 million. Then sign Butler
Am I missing something.

In comment 14177535 djm said:

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In comment 14177253 Keith said: Quote: of project. Maybe if KP came back early and we made a run at the playoffs, maybe. This team will be much closer to the #1 pick than it will the playoffs. We are a year or two from enticing a star, IMO. With KP this team is nowhere near number one pick status. Not even close. They would have won 37 or so games last year with KP in the lineup. Are you really suggesting that a lineup consisting of KP and Durant and some other decent vets isn’t winning 50 games in their sleep?

Thats not even close to what I was suggesting.

In comment 14177538 Earl the goat said:

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In comment 14177534 nygiants16 said: Quote: In comment 14177531 Earl the goat said: Quote: In comment 14177260 nygiants16 said: Quote: both would not have the cap space unless the sixers let butler walk... wizards have porter, beal, and wall making 92 million, add 16 to that for mahimi Sixers can sign Durant if they trade Fultz no they cant Please explain. Without Fultz contract they are on the books for 61 million Sign Durant to 30-35 million. Then sign Butler Am I missing something.

yeah butlers cap hold

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In comment 14177538 Earl the goat said: Quote: In comment 14177534 nygiants16 said: Gotcha. Thx. I did miss that Quote: In comment 14177531 Earl the goat said: Quote: In comment 14177260 nygiants16 said: Quote: both would not have the cap space unless the sixers let butler walk... wizards have porter, beal, and wall making 92 million, add 16 to that for mahimi Sixers can sign Durant if they trade Fultz no they cant Please explain. Without Fultz contract they are on the books for 61 million Sign Durant to 30-35 million. Then sign Butler Am I missing something. yeah butlers cap hold

I want Mudiay to have to play defense. I'm hoping that Mudiay either shows some sort of progress or he gets run off of the floor.

I'm also curious as to why Knox is staring. I actually think it's a good thing to do, it just seems to conflict with Fizdale stating that players need to earn it. I don't think Knox has earned anything so far in the regular season. I still have hope for him down the road, but his defence, shot selection, and lack of passing are hard to watch. Hopefully Knox realizes how much work he still needs to put in and how much his game has to change in order for him to be effective.

The Knicks have assets, picks and some cap flexibility to make whatever moves are necessary this offseason. As in, if Durant wants a couple more veterans to play with, they have pieces to move to make it happen. Either through clearing cap to sign guys or trading for them.

I don’t think it’s a lock by estimation. But if he were to leave, I think the Knicks have a good a chance as anyone. I’m worried the Warriors will just trade Green and keep Durant though... I’m not sure whether to root for them to win it again or implode.

from having mudiay and knox, they needed more scoring, and mudiay hopefully will get hardaway and knox open looks..

the bench will benefit from the defense of frank and dot..

whenever he is in the starting lineup. Hopefully that changes, but maybe he's just better coming off the bench.

Career #s
Starter - .361/.311/.704
Reserve - .400/.333/.779

Except Timmy HardHead

I'm sure Fizdale is getting more popular everyday

As fans, we get excited by young guys like Frank and Knox, but that doesn't mean anything to a superstar like KD. He has played these guys and dominated them. He is not coming to NY to play with developmental projects.

I also don't think KP's reputation around the league is quite what it is among Knicks fans. I think he is regarded as a top 25 player but not a superstar.

Which leads me to believe Steven A Smith is right: KP has to come back this year and show he is the same player, and someone like Knox has to step forward and show he can be a player in this league. KD has to be convinced that he is the final piece, and I don't see how he could reach that conclusion with the ragtag group the Knicks are currently putting out there.

don't think most fans are excited by Frank right now. Quite the opposite. One of the real negatives is how poor he has looked. Redraft he doesn't go top 10.

he wouldn't leave Golden State. This would be about more than winning championships a la Lebron to LA. Durant's a bit of an odd guy so who knows what he'll be thinking when the time comes. I'm skeptical but if what he's looking for is related to his legacy and he wants to be the alpha dog with the ball in his hands at all times then there's a shot.

His view of Knox and Trier is definitely a positive 1 and we already know how he views kp..

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His view of Knox and Trier is definitely a positive 1 and we already know how he views kp..

I think Knox and Frank are really going to need to step it up. I'm higher on most than Frank but he's shown no improvement on offense this season. Trier/ Dotson/ Mitch will need to continue to improve as the season progresses- not easy to do as very young players.

I go back and forth on whether KP needs to come back. Ideally he comes back for 10-15 games towards the end of the season very cautiously and shows hes fully recovered without effecting the tank too much. Durant and Free agency is a zero sum game and the Knicks need to maximize their chances at top pick in the draft...

onto the worst team in the league - the Cavaliers, in this case - they're an immediate contender. This stuff can happen overnight, as we've seen in recent years with Miami and Boston. In the Knicks case, point guard would still be a major concern, unless they take a good one in the draft (the Vandy PG seems like the only one who makes the grade). If KD goes elsewhere, you just keep grinding.

mean nothing stops KP from calling Durant at the opening of FA and asking him to come work out with him to prove his health. It's not traditional but it's not absurd.

basically just said it is not happening, so we can go back to are regularly scheduled tank

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mean nothing stops KP from calling Durant at the opening of FA and asking him to come work out with him to prove his health. It's not traditional but it's not absurd.

durant is not goimg to latvia

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In comment 14177348 gmenatlarge said: Quote: In comment 14177299 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: that the Knicks should be considered favorites to land him. I honestly believe that. While that would be nice to believe, I just can't see this happening, this guy is WAY too sensitive to handle the NY media, he'll just use the Knicks to run the price up. Run what price up? He is going to get a max contract no matter where he goes.

Golden state can offer 60 million more than anyone else, is that enough money for you?

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basically just said it is not happening, so we can go back to are regularly scheduled tank

What did he say?

It means we're gonna sign Durant

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In comment 14177798 nygiants16 said: Quote: basically just said it is not happening, so we can go back to are regularly scheduled tank What did he say?

basically said he doesnt think durant will be able to handle the new york media and fans because the knicks still stink and are not ready to contend...

they pushed and asked if he thought he would consider the knicks, basically said no

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In comment 14177359 blueblood said: Quote: In comment 14177348 gmenatlarge said: Quote: In comment 14177299 SFGFNCGiantsFan said: Quote: that the Knicks should be considered favorites to land him. I honestly believe that. While that would be nice to believe, I just can't see this happening, this guy is WAY too sensitive to handle the NY media, he'll just use the Knicks to run the price up. Run what price up? He is going to get a max contract no matter where he goes. Golden state can offer 60 million more than anyone else, is that enough money for you?

wtf are you talking about? he doesnt need the knicks to get the max

He has no idea what is gonna happen, its way too early to tell and make proclamations like that. But, that doesn't make for good radio.

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In comment 14177797 DanMetroMan said: Quote: mean nothing stops KP from calling Durant at the opening of FA and asking him to come work out with him to prove his health. It's not traditional but it's not absurd. durant is not goimg to latvia

But it would be alot cooler if he did

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He has no idea what is gonna happen, its way too early to tell and make proclamations like that. But, that doesn't make for good radio.

the knicks cant even keep their homegrown draft pick happy and in the city during the summer, hpw they going to recruit 1 of the best players in the NBA?

This notion that Durant is going tk leave a championship team for the doldrums of the knicks is moronic...

If he leaves why would he not just go to LA and team up with lebron and play for the flagship organization OR go to the clippers and play with kawhi?

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- OKC is good but the Knicks look bad. Not sure Knox is ready for prime time.

he just made a 3...leave him in

made a ton of sense...

frank cant even turn the corner with a pick, the airballs a 3

See no reason to stop now

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How the hell is that useless clown still in thr league?

it is still a team filled with bums, they have 2 maybe 3 keepers on this team...It is going to be a long long time before this team is any good...

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This team just seriously lacks shooting. What’s the deal with Lee?

In comment 14177986 TyreeHelmet said:

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This team just seriously lacks shooting. What’s the deal with Lee?

they lack everything

Has such a poor b-ball iq. Dumb shots and awful defensive instincts.

they should be selling off parts not thinking about kevin durant

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they should be selling off parts not thinking about kevin durant

You are the usually the positive one- what’s going on?

This team is going to lose a lot. They are young without many good players. I have no idea what Fiz is doing though. Where is Frank? I don’t get this.

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In comment 14177990 nygiants16 said: Quote: they should be selling off parts not thinking about kevin durant You are the usually the positive one- what’s going on? This team is going to lose a lot. They are young without many good players. I have no idea what Fiz is doing though. Where is Frank? I don’t get this.

it is the same shit every year and same "hope" this year jjst has a better salesman...

still the same shit plan, pray and hope the shiny free agent comes and when he doesnt spend the money on a lesser player you have to overpay to come...

same garbage different year....

yay they are not trading draft picks woohoo...

same laughing stock they were last year and it is a team full of selfish chuckers looking to get theres because they all know they will not be here next year...

and the worst part they will max out kp and be stuck with this gsrbage

"Kanter's putting in work!"

He's made Steve Adams look like Wilt, and it's been a layup line for OKC all night.

trade kanter to a team looking to unload a contract, get a draft pick and a young asset...

also i would see if you can get a haul for KP, you cant max him out and have nothing around him...

if someone is willing to give you young players and picks you have to think about it

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They did look worse than usual tonight.

We knew this going in. It takes players time to develop, with the occasional anomaly. It just so happens that the NBA had two rookies last year in Tatum and Mitchell who played far above the average rookie. Maybe that skewed the expectations for some.

I haven't lost any hope for the Knicks going forward, at least yet. Granted I didn't expect them to seriously compete for much for at least 3-5 years, assuming they aren't able to get any legitimate free agents, so for me nothing much has changed. I still think KP, Frank, Trier, Knox, Dotson, and Robinson could turn out to be good to great players if developed properly.

Granted, I admit it's hard to watch young players struggle whether it's expected or not. It's even harder to watch the THjr and Kanter's of he world play just well enough to steel minutes from younger players but not well enough to compete for anything.

That all being said, I'm not going to worry about the future of the Knicks until they make some dumb off season moves or unless all of these kids still play like this in 2 or 3 seasons.

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In comment 14178053 Greg from LI said:

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if you get a haul, for example a young player and draft pick...

this team is going to be garbage for a long time with or without kp, you max him out and this team is capped out with nothing on the roster...

kp is good but he is not good enough to carry a team

He is the best talent they have. At some point you have to start building around someone. If you trade him your just hoping to use the picks gained to draft someone of his caliber anyway so I don't see the advantage of trading him at this point. Can't kick the rebuild down the road forever.

but the reality is they're gonna knock these remaining 67 games off the calendar, make their draft pick and throw money at whoever is willing to take it.

Mills and Perry are confident they can develop players and attract free agents - they'll have opportunities to prove it.

look now but the tank is right on schedule. 4th worst record in the league, and remember, top 3 all now have an equal shot at no. 1