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blue1986 : 11/14/2018 8:23 pm
Vernon is trying hard but what happened to Wynn. He had a monstrous preseason but has done nothing to talk about since He needs to start making some plays,so does Martin who could rush the passer when he wasin Arizona. Barwin why did we get him he has done nothing. BJ needs some sacks as well. Maybe getting rid of JPP was not a good idea. He has not been replaced
Do you think  
BigBill : 11/14/2018 9:00 pm : link
JPP would have been as good this year in our 3-4 Defense? If not, the money saved and the draft pick may turn out to be a blessing in disguise - fingers crossed. But I totally agree with you, where the heck is our pass rush? Then again keep in mind who is rushing the passer and who covers the middle of the field 😖
I was in favor of trading JPP  
longlive#10 : 11/14/2018 9:16 pm : link
But saying he doesn't fit here is just false justification, like the rest of the league we spend most of the game in nickel with 4 down, where a DEs job is no different

And any 4-3 end can play 3-4 outside backer if all you do is ask him to rush and maybe take a short zone drop once in a while just to surprise them and maybe get a swat (which JPP is more than capable of)
This is what JPP does though  
longlive#10 : 11/14/2018 9:18 pm : link
Plays good every other year, that's not worth keeping around on the contract he held
The JPP trade not only rid us of the contract.  
Diver_Down : 11/14/2018 9:24 pm : link
But it netted us a 3rd rounder whom we used on Hill. Hill being an immediate contributor and on a rookie contract has enabled us to move Snacks for a fifth.
And Money  
BigBill : 11/14/2018 9:31 pm : link
To spend on another pass rusher, someone who can cover, and on and on. It doesn’t deserve its own thread so here I go, where are all the Lauletta fans this week 😜
A Pure Pass rusher might be the biggest need on the team  
DavidinBMNY : 11/14/2018 9:36 pm : link
Vernon as the #1 pass rush threat isn't scaring anyone. Barwin has seemingly very little left in the tank. Zo looks great as an all around player an excellent draft pick with some pass rush but he isn't a pure pass rusher.

Guys Like Mauro and Martin and Vernon would be much more effective with someone other teams feared as a pass rusher.

The upcoming draft has a lot of matches for Giants needs including Pass rush, CB and top notch LBers. Just not as great on QB and OL.
The best player on the CBS board ...  
Manny in CA : 11/14/2018 10:41 pm : link

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospect-rankings/

Is a DE, (Nick Bosa) - #1, overall

Other DEs ....

Clelin Ferrell - #4, overall

Brain Burns - -#14 overall

Zach Allen - #20 overall
There will surely be a clamor for a QB ...  
Manny in CA : 11/14/2018 10:44 pm : link

But if Bosa is sitting there, waiting to be taken, it might be another Barkley kind of dilemma for the Giants again.
RE: There will surely be a clamor for a QB ...  
Percy : 11/14/2018 11:49 pm : link
In comment 14178044 Manny in CA said:
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But if Bosa is sitting there, waiting to be taken, it might be another Barkley kind of dilemma for the Giants again.

" Barkley kind of dilemma": non-existent. Barkley was the only pick last draft and the Giants were more than fortunate he was still there. Is Bosa that good (Barkely good I mean)? Then be thankful if he's still there for them. I kind of doubt, though, both prongs of this. It seems unlikely he'll be there when the Giants pick and anyway it's doubtful he's comparable to Barkley, who may be one of the true great backs.
Wynn is the Reggie White of pre season  
Mondo : 11/15/2018 12:26 am : link
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Bigbill  
joeinpa : 11/15/2018 6:14 am : link
I think the clamor about Lauletta was more about just wanting to see the young guy play before the draft.

That probably hasn t changed.

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christian : 11/15/2018 6:19 am : link
Wynn? What about Kareem Martin and his 5.8M salary.

JPP could have done the same thing in this hybrid 3-4, 4-3 defense  
Ivan15 : 11/15/2018 8:25 am : link
that Vernon has been asked to do. And I think he actually was better able to drop into pass coverage than Vernon.

I was very excited to see Vernon and JPP as outside backers with the offense not knowing where the pressure was coming from. Disappointed at the trade but I understand why it was made.
JPP's legend is bigger than his performance.....  
Doomster : 11/15/2018 9:07 am : link
8 sacks? Means nothing....he has always been a stat machine, not an enforcer, like Strahan.....

I just saw Goodson get credited with two int's....he is as great in coverage as JPP is a stud pass rusher....
JPP's legend is bigger than his performance.....  
Doomster : 11/15/2018 9:11 am : link
8 sacks? Means nothing....he has always been a stat machine, not an enforcer, like Strahan.....

I just saw Goodson get credited with two int's....he is as great in coverage as JPP is a stud pass rusher....there are sacks and there are sacks....
Carter is the future... I expect a huge jump from this season  
fredgbrown : 11/15/2018 9:54 am : link
to next year. He has 6 QB hits and 5 TFL along with his 2 sacks. I think he will be in double digits in sacks next year.
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