NFT: Rangers vs. Islanders - 7:00 PM on MSG

I know the answer but I will let my friend, Mike in Long Beach provide the answer as he gleefully will.

banged up tonight. They need to trust Trotz' system and play disciplined if they want to keep racking up points.

Would be even better if Beauvillier or Leddy decided to chip in a little offense.

Oh wait.

suck it

Only 7 in a row and 11 out of 12. :D

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banged up tonight. They need to trust Trotz' system and play disciplined if they want to keep racking up points. Would be even better if Beauvillier or Leddy decided to chip in a little offense.

Yeah I can't believe I'm saying this but it's 100% true. The Cizikas loss is a big one and the Ladd loss is meh. But Casey has very quietly been one of our best forwards in every asset of the game. The top 2 lines are going to have to play perfect games (we know what we're getting with the 3rd line) and the 4th line needs to be limited to (at most) 8 minutes of action.

In comment 14178641 Drewcon40 said:

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I know the answer but I will let my friend, Mike in Long Beach provide the answer as he gleefully will.

See above! :)

It's actually a preview of would be the 1st round divisional playoff matchup. Who the hell thought that would be something you'd say about this game.

In comment 14178753 Mike in Long Beach said:

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In comment 14178641 Drewcon40 said: Quote: I know the answer but I will let my friend, Mike in Long Beach provide the answer as he gleefully will. See above! :)

Atta boy! :

Basically just assuming a loss because we don't seem to be able to beat the fucking neckbeards at all lately regardless of where the game is.

I'll probably be onto SEA/GB by kickoff.

LGR!

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Basically just assuming a loss because we don't seem to be able to beat the fucking neckbeards at all lately regardless of where the game is. I'll probably be onto SEA/GB by kickoff. LGR!

There's a shocker. Unless a Rangers' fan's firm is offering corporate seats, it's tough to keep these guys interested in hockey.

#OnlyDieHards #LGI

In comment 14178844 Mike in Long Beach said:

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In comment 14178820 arcarsenal said: Quote: Basically just assuming a loss because we don't seem to be able to beat the fucking neckbeards at all lately regardless of where the game is. I'll probably be onto SEA/GB by kickoff. LGR! There's a shocker. Unless a Rangers' fan's firm is offering corporate seats, it's tough to keep these guys interested in hockey. #OnlyDieHards #LGI

About as tough as it is for your pathetic team to find a place to play because no one wants them.

#CornyHashTags #LGR #LOL

BTW, you're dead last in attendance.

#DieHardsOnly
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BTW, you're dead last in attendance. #DieHardsOnly Link - ( New Window )

In comment 14178752 Mike in Long Beach said:

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In comment 14178672 Metnut said: Quote: banged up tonight. They need to trust Trotz' system and play disciplined if they want to keep racking up points. Would be even better if Beauvillier or Leddy decided to chip in a little offense. Yeah I can't believe I'm saying this but it's 100% true. The Cizikas loss is a big one and the Ladd loss is meh. But Casey has very quietly been one of our best forwards in every asset of the game. The top 2 lines are going to have to play perfect games (we know what we're getting with the 3rd line) and the 4th line needs to be limited to (at most) 8 minutes of action.

Yea, Cizikas has turned into a really nice player. Probably one of the better cheap extensions that Snow locked up before he was shitcanned. Looks like he'll only be out about 2 weeks or so, but the organization is so fucking thin at center that the backup options aren't promising.

Looking forward to seeing Dal Colle play hopefully on Sunday. He's been tearing it up in the AHL and maybe has turned a corner. He's still really young.

they have not broke ground at Belmont. Actually I shouldn't be surprised.

Without a loss to the Rangers. Lets keep it alive

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BTW, you're dead last in attendance. #DieHardsOnly Link - ( New Window )

Barclays fucking sucks for hockey. Come dec 1st we’ll all be going back to the coli where we belong.

I know. I just gotta throw down with a few of you before the game. If I didn't, it wouldn't be a Rangers/Isles game thread.

Glad this has a little juice - both teams are playing above expectations so far.

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Without a loss to the Rangers. Lets keep it alive

Thanks KWhite - you keep reminding us and I keep forgetting : /

In the rare chance we lose - remember we are rebuilding so it's not like it's a real game.

Where's pganut?

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Has been burning oil, working hard lately. We’ve had to hold
It down without him. Got the rest of the boys in tow.

Good to see you, Drew (and as always arc). Fish hit it on the head, been firing on all cylinders, 2 monster years in a row and I like my work mojo. Will take the foot off the gas between Thanksgiving & New Year's. And most of my Isles viewing of late hasn't been plugged into social media, since I've been digging just watching alongside and talking with my son during the game. He's a voracious fan, lives and dies for the Isles. I'm realizing I need to soak that in over the next few years before he and his other bro & sis eventually head off to college.

That said, I have tons of thoughts but not really the time...the TL;DR version is:
We're performing better than most thought and from an underlying metric perspective, despite a higher than average PDO and shooting percentage (which will no doubt revert to the mean), the structural foundation Trotz and co. are installing (as well as philosophically through the organ-eye-zation) has us playing much better overall hockey and developing better habits, the "detail work" the staff mentions. Even down to the pressure in the NZ, commitment to breaking out north-south, not flying the zone and our D gap control, which was beyond horrid for several seasons. We're keeping things to the outside. Goalies are all re-learning and implementing positional technique adjustments, and have done so well so far. I have no expectations of making any noise in the big picture this season, but if the solid play and subsequent confidence drives these guys on to greater success, so be it. I like what I'm seeing and realize this is one step in a larger journey over the next couple of seasons. And I like what we have to set the tone, and the young talent through the org to carry the torch. It's close, and this doesn't feel like the mirage of years past. Amazing what adults at the helm can do.

And a hat tip to my guys who have carried our banter away from BBI this year. Shows you why we have a bunch of guys who all get "A"s on their sweaters...my boys are accountable.

Good luck tonight whichever sweater you root for.

In comment 14178965 pganut said:

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my Isles viewing of late hasn't been plugged into social media, since I've been digging just watching alongside and talking with my son during the game

pg! back at you my friend. Same here - I have been watching with the little guy as well.

This is honestly the first game in years I don't feel the rivalry is as intense. I think it's because (at least my) expectations of the Rangers squad are not very high. I am curious how Quinn's version of the Rangers will handle the game.

I am stuck at the office in TriBeCa and live in Staten Island - looking at the weather outside, I am not going to get to see too much of tonight.

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This is honestly the first game in years that I don't feel the rivalry isn't as intense.

Agreed. I think that's because we all recognize what our teams are, and aren't. It'll be more fun when both teams are more finished products.

Sucks you're stuck there, but I spent many a snowy evening in Tribeca when I worked for Smith Barney at 388 Greenwich back in the day. Pig and Whistle and Bubble Lounge got a lot of my attention. Hope you get home safe, amigo.

Kreids!

It's a POW-ER-PLAY GOAL!

Make it 2!

Great play by Howden.

for their inevitable comeback ... lol

In comment 14178846 arcarsenal said:

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In comment 14178844 Mike in Long Beach said: Quote: In comment 14178820 arcarsenal said: Quote: Basically just assuming a loss because we don't seem to be able to beat the fucking neckbeards at all lately regardless of where the game is. I'll probably be onto SEA/GB by kickoff. LGR! There's a shocker. Unless a Rangers' fan's firm is offering corporate seats, it's tough to keep these guys interested in hockey. #OnlyDieHards #LGI About as tough as it is for your pathetic team to find a place to play because no one wants them. #CornyHashTags #LGR #LOL

By the time it’s all said and done, the Isles will have been nomads longer than the Jews.

never ceases to amaze me how guys can deflect pucks while skating on ice ... I still think it is the most amazing thing in all of sports (not necessarily that deflection, although I think it was up in the air and still pretty amazing)

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for their inevitable comeback ... lol

Ha

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In comment 14179058 baadbill said: Quote: for their inevitable comeback ... lol Ha

lol

... Islanders are getting the puck out of their own zone pretty easily while being able to keep the puck in the Rangers zone

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Yep. We Wuz Robbed

Only way I'd consider that ok would be if they sold seats to allow fans to sit in the car to watch the game ... with the radio working... now that would be nice... but otherwise, wtf?

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Only way I'd consider that ok would be if they sold seats to allow fans to sit in the car to watch the game ... with the radio working... now that would be nice... but otherwise, wtf?

Curious about this myself, actually

That's our goalie coach.

goalie, but I don't think I've ever seen a goalie lose their stick as much as Hank does.

It's uncanny. I wonder if Valiquette or someone else has discussed it or has a theory about it. Seems like it leads to a goal too often when it happens.

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goalie, but I don't think I've ever seen a goalie lose their stick as much as Hank does. It's uncanny. I wonder if Valiquette or someone else has discussed it or has a theory about it. Seems like it leads to a goal too often when it happens.

Certainly as far as Ranger goalies over the past 50 years there's nobody even close - Hank is like 10x whomever would be #2. It is so much that I believe it has to be an intentional thing - that he lets go of the stick in certain situations (although frankly I can't figure out when or why that would be)

after they gifted the fish sticks a four minute power play they might give a make up call here and there. I’m still trying to find that penalty on Skeji

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after they gifted the fish sticks a four minute power play they might give a make up call here and there. I’m still trying to find that penalty on Skeji

Yea, that's why a small part of me always considered the NHL just slightly removed from professional wrestling (esp in the Broad Street Bully days)

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after they gifted the fish sticks a four minute power play they might give a make up call here and there. I’m still trying to find that penalty on Skeji

There you go.

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Three deflected goals. Good to see you watching a game

What is the purpose of Marc Staal? Ties up the man to the side of the net and leaves Lee all alone in front. Oh well

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banged up tonight. They need to trust Trotz' system and play disciplined if they want to keep racking up points. Would be even better if Beauvillier or Leddy decided to chip in a little offense.

Metnut - I’m on the other side of this but wow!

...the way we have been playing this season, i would think we can come back but the Rangers at Barclays seems to be a tough task.

I’ve been following on my phone stuck on my commute. It looks like the officiating has been questionable?

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Isles feed has been choppy at times for me

other channels are fine ... but on both my TV and a stream on my laptop, all of MSG is frozen

Trash feed. Trash game. I'm watching Golden Girls reruns.

That's not very good, deflections or not.

How about playing better defense in front? Staal looks like fuckin road kill out there.

He should have been eliminated years ago.

You just lost to a team with a Fucking car sitting in first row.

the Rangers would play some entertaining games this season. I thought they got the short end of some calls but they need to defend the front of their net far better than that.

The PDO regression coming for the islanders is going to be fantastic

... was Hank pulled for Chytil's goal? I assume Islander's final goal was an empty netter.

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... was Hank pulled for Chytil's goal? I assume Islander's final goal was an empty netter.

Yes he scored with EA to make it 6-5. Clutterbuck then added final goal

I don't think the Rangers are ever going to win in Barclays. Staal's here to collect money and look rugged, I guess. He's beyond useless and I have no idea why Quinn continues to trot him out there to get beat like a drum every game.

I’ll offer my congratulations before all the trash talk starts.

Talent wise, the Islanders are ahead but I did like how the Rangers didn’t quit. I caught the end after an awful commute,

In comment 14179204 Mike in NY said:

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In comment 14179203 baadbill said: Quote: ... was Hank pulled for Chytil's goal? I assume Islander's final goal was an empty netter. Yes he scored with EA to make it 6-5. Clutterbuck then added final goal

Thanks Mike.

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In comment 14178672 Metnut said: Quote: banged up tonight. They need to trust Trotz' system and play disciplined if they want to keep racking up points. Would be even better if Beauvillier or Leddy decided to chip in a little offense. Metnut - I’m on the other side of this but wow!

LOL! He sure delivered.

I didn’t love the effort tonight but I’ll take the two points. Biggest development tonight for NYI would be Beuvillier getting his confidence back.

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That's our goalie coach.

u mentioned S/Barney on Greenwich st My wife worked there from 95 to 98 . Isles so far so good

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In comment 14179102 pganut said: Quote: That's our goalie coach. u mentioned S/Barney on Greenwich st My wife worked there from 95 to 98 . Isles so far so good

Funny. I was there at that time as well. Thru 2000 and a move to 7 WTC.

I am at 7WTC now. I have been there for almost 10 years. They really are doing a nice job rebuilding WTC and the surrounding area. I hate WHY it happened but between WTC, The Oculus and Brookfield Place they are almost creating Columbus Circle downtown. They are building gorgeous residences (way beyond my means).

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In comment 14179267 steviej said: Quote: In comment 14179102 pganut said: Quote: That's our goalie coach. u mentioned S/Barney on Greenwich st My wife worked there from 95 to 98 . Isles so far so good Funny. I was there at that time as well. Thru 2000 and a move to 7 WTC.

Lol - I was there 94-95. Shitty commute from Hoboken, compared to where I was in WFC...

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I didn’t love the effort tonight but I’ll take the two points. Biggest development tonight for NYI would be Beuvillier getting his confidence back.

Not that Ladd was any good, but he could've been the serviceable 3rd option on line two. Looks like he's out for a while, so Beauvillier needs to play well if this team wants to legitimately contend for a playoff spot. Can't lean on Bailey-Barzal-Lee every night.

Great win. Was in section 215. Lot's of the expected back-and-forth chants going on. A few Rangers fans were going over-the-top with their exuberance after the 2-0 lead, and to Rangers' fans credit, the majority of their fans were policing them/yelling at them to shut up as it was very early in the game, still. Gave one of them a pat on the back for it, which he didn't appreciate. Probably should've waited for him to leave the urinal first. Oh, well.

when I want them to tank and mostly lose, they win a bunch of games and then lose the one game that I do really want them to win

In comment 14179468 Mike in Long Beach said:

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Quote: I didn’t love the effort tonight but I’ll take the two points. Biggest development tonight for NYI would be Beuvillier getting his confidence back. Not that Ladd was any good, but he could've been the serviceable 3rd option on line two. Looks like he's out for a while, so Beauvillier needs to play well if this team wants to legitimately contend for a playoff spot. Can't lean on Bailey-Barzal-Lee every night. Great win. Was in section 215. Lot's of the expected back-and-forth chants going on. A few Rangers fans were going over-the-top with their exuberance after the 2-0 lead, and to Rangers' fans credit, the majority of their fans were policing them/yelling at them to shut up as it was very early in the game, still. Gave one of them a pat on the back for it, which he didn't appreciate. Probably should've waited for him to leave the urinal first. Oh, well.

That was you? Oh man, I was just trying to shake off.

Actually, as documented above, I was on the Staten Island Express Bus watching on MSG Go (or try to go).

I did a legitimate LOL reading Mike.

In comment 14179468 Mike in Long Beach said:

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Quote: I didn’t love the effort tonight but I’ll take the two points. Biggest development tonight for NYI would be Beuvillier getting his confidence back. Not that Ladd was any good, but he could've been the serviceable 3rd option on line two. Looks like he's out for a while, so Beauvillier needs to play well if this team wants to legitimately contend for a playoff spot. Can't lean on Bailey-Barzal-Lee every night. Great win. Was in section 215. Lot's of the expected back-and-forth chants going on. A few Rangers fans were going over-the-top with their exuberance after the 2-0 lead, and to Rangers' fans credit, the majority of their fans were policing them/yelling at them to shut up as it was very early in the game, still. Gave one of them a pat on the back for it, which he didn't appreciate. Probably should've waited for him to leave the urinal first. Oh, well.

Must've been a fun game to be at. Crowd sounded lively.

Do you think you're going to make it to the 12/1 home opener at the Coliseum? I'll be up in NY for that. Probably the latest home opener I've seen for the Islanders. So many neutral site games in Brooklyn!

In comment 14179586 Metnut said:

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In comment 14179468 Mike in Long Beach said: Quote: Quote: I didn’t love the effort tonight but I’ll take the two points. Biggest development tonight for NYI would be Beuvillier getting his confidence back. Not that Ladd was any good, but he could've been the serviceable 3rd option on line two. Looks like he's out for a while, so Beauvillier needs to play well if this team wants to legitimately contend for a playoff spot. Can't lean on Bailey-Barzal-Lee every night. Great win. Was in section 215. Lot's of the expected back-and-forth chants going on. A few Rangers fans were going over-the-top with their exuberance after the 2-0 lead, and to Rangers' fans credit, the majority of their fans were policing them/yelling at them to shut up as it was very early in the game, still. Gave one of them a pat on the back for it, which he didn't appreciate. Probably should've waited for him to leave the urinal first. Oh, well. Must've been a fun game to be at. Crowd sounded lively. Do you think you're going to make it to the 12/1 home opener at the Coliseum? I'll be up in NY for that. Probably the latest home opener I've seen for the Islanders. So many neutral site games in Brooklyn!

I really want to, but my girlfriend gets back from a week-long business trip in London that day.. going to be a tough sell, lol.

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I am at 7WTC now. I have been there for almost 10 years. They really are doing a nice job rebuilding WTC and the surrounding area. I hate WHY it happened but between WTC, The Oculus and Brookfield Place they are almost creating Columbus Circle downtown. They are building gorgeous residences (way beyond my means).

I live/work down here - it's improved a lot in just the ~2 years I've been here.

And no one believes you have a girlfriend, Mike.

to need some time to rest Mike!

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In comment 14179326 Drewcon40 said: Quote: I am at 7WTC now. I have been there for almost 10 years. They really are doing a nice job rebuilding WTC and the surrounding area. I hate WHY it happened but between WTC, The Oculus and Brookfield Place they are almost creating Columbus Circle downtown. They are building gorgeous residences (way beyond my means). I live/work down here - it's improved a lot in just the ~2 years I've been here. And no one believes you have a girlfriend, Mike.

She goes to a different school, alright!?

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She goes to a different school, alright!?

In Canada, I'm guessing

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In comment 14180001 Mike in Long Beach said: Quote: She goes to a different school, alright!? In Canada, I'm guessing

Niagara Falls.

I was talking to the one person on this board who's actually met her.

I had a really bizarrely coincidental run-in with Metnut at the Islanders' tailgate in Raleigh. We briefly texted since we both were going. I didn't know anyone there, and ended up chatting with some dude who flew in with my GF and I from Jersey. And the whole time he's waiting for his friend to show up, and I've got my eye out for Metnut. Ended up spending a good hour shooting the shit with the guy until Metnut finally showed up.

Turns out we were both waiting for the same guy.