but yet some are going play by play, in slow motion, looking for plays where Eli is not throwing to the right player? Plus they are doing this without knowing the progressions? You do realize you could do this for any QB in the NFL right? Its a game played by people, not Madden, and these guys have about 2-3 seconds to make a decision. Sure, if we are sitting on our couch watch a frame by frame slow-mo I bet there are other people open. However what about the fact that most times Eli completed the pass he was throwing.
We have 5 wins in the last 2 seasons and we just beat a garbage team by the skin of our teeth and its the nitpicking thats out of control. Eli didn't have a good game. He had a great drive and a decent half, but it wasn't all that good. There is no excuse for this video. Good players don't miss guys that open and the excuses by some fans in an effort to defend their fave is sad. When its not the OL fault or the coach or the WR's or the def, people still make a ton of excuses. Its true though, guys like Nathan Peterman and Nick Mullins might miss those throws, so we are in a great situation!
Not sure why it becomes about criticizing Eli. He simply says he doesn’t understand what is being coached. I imagine Eli will start adjusting to these looks if the Oline continues to protect consistently like they did in San Fran. I mean ny goodness, Eli isn’t a robot. That was the first time in a long time he was able to play behind a somewhat functional unit. He’ll see through film study that his line is holding up and will adjust to it. Jeez.
It's so obvious that our 37 year old QB that's been on a downward slide for 3 straight years is just gonna snap out of it and start to play like an elite QB. Geez guys, can't everyone see that??
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[quote] but yet some are going play by play, in slow motion, looking for plays where Eli is not throwing to the right player? Plus they are doing this without knowing the progressions? You do realize you could do this for any QB in the NFL right? Its a game played by people, not Madden, and these guys have about 2-3 seconds to make a decision. Sure, if we are sitting on our couch watch a frame by frame slow-mo I bet there are other people open. However what about the fact that most times Eli completed the pass he was throwing.
+1
And agree that every QB misses throws. God forbid Eli miss any though. Then the whole world gets out their pitchforks and torches. He also had 3tds and no ints.
It's so obvious that our 37 year old QB that's been on a downward slide for 3 straight years is just gonna snap out of it and start to play like an elite QB. Geez guys, can't everyone see that??
Is anybody saying that?
Counterpoint, the bizarre attempt to find new ways to criticize him each week is what has gotten out of control.
Can't even say he had a good game on Monday night. That's what's comical.
on the plays he has time. Kurt Warners reply is spot on, he is telling you why its time to move on Eli. Eli has happy feet, mental clock and panics. Wilson's like is worse and he hangs in, delivers and throws dimes.
Take MNF, Eli had his best pocket in years for most of the game. Keep in mind the 49ers had EIGHT sacks the week before. Eli underthrew Odell, Barkley, and Engram on go/wheel easy LONG td's. He panicked and checked down 3 times, including the Baldy video. There is simply no other qb in the NFL with a player like Beckham, that checks down there BEFORE looking 13's way. Eli is a clock panic'er in the pocket. Of course, he is the exact opposite of the clock pre play, he loves to pressure the OL into false starts by winding it to 1. Because he must scream and point at that miracle MIKE LB'er LOL. It's seriously made our O great all these years.
There are large handful that cry worse than cowboys fans, and that’s what I find truly comical.
I wouldn't expect you to see it there pal. Everyone in the world sees it except a small handful of Eli's most faithful. He deserves to be criticized for his play.
The throw to Barkley was absolutely not an underthrow or even a bad throw. As a matter of fact.... it had no chance of being completed due to the fact BARKLEY NEVER LOOKED FOR THE BALL!
Once Barkley turns up field, if he looks for the ball like most normal WRs do... it’s an easy catch, it’s an easy track of the ball. But since he never looks for it... it looks like it’s elis fault even though it just missed his foot.
Anyone see Rodgers touchdown pass to Jones yesterday. Jones has to turn around and back pedal for a few steps before making the catch? That’s call tracking the ball and making the catch... something Barkley did not do whatsoever.
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There are large handful that cry worse than cowboys fans, and that’s what I find truly comical.
I wouldn't expect you to see it there pal. Everyone in the world sees it except a small handful of Eli's most faithful. He deserves to be criticized for his play.
Pleas on the post above yours, the poster is bitching about a TD pass that went through engrams hands as a mean to shit on him. Like I said... it’s comical at this point.
The throw to Barkley was absolutely not an underthrow or even a bad throw. As a matter of fact.... it had no chance of being completed due to the fact BARKLEY NEVER LOOKED FOR THE BALL!
Sy disagrees with you.
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He did have 2 poor under throws on plays where Beckham and Barkley beat their man deep, respectively.
The throw to Barkley was absolutely not an underthrow or even a bad throw. As a matter of fact.... it had no chance of being completed due to the fact BARKLEY NEVER LOOKED FOR THE BALL!
Sy disagrees with you.
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He did have 2 poor under throws on plays where Beckham and Barkley beat their man deep, respectively.
And I disagree with him on it. I think it could have easily been caught if Barkley looks for the ball earlier.
and discuss things that will probably actually happen rather than delusional things like cuts, trades, and restructures that really aren't likely to happen.
Seems to me that the ones that discuss such things that really aren't likely to happen but they WANT to have happen are the ones that lack self awareness that they are speaking emotionally rather than logically.
yeah dep, thats why. Not because of your behavior for the past 15 years.
Britt, breakin news....you are not.
Sometimes I wonder what the fuck you’re talking about. Then I realize even you don’t know. It’s always an interior motive with you. But you aren’t smart enough to even know what one is.
OMG i defended Eli for his career so I can’t defend a play here and there anymore.
And I love how you bust Britts balls as if you’re smarter than him... even though he was more accurate than anyone else in BBI on what was gonna happen to Eli this year.
Eli is simply missing on too many opportunities, which in costly the team dearly, and he's the highest paid - not a good combination. I hope he finishes with an overall winning record by the end of this year and then retires. Either way, time to move on right after the season is over - need to turn the page.
He would have tapped his chest as in “my fault” like he always does. On the false start by Pulley on the final drive, Eli tapped his chest to apologize to his center. He didn’t do that on the throw.
He did throw a back shoulder to Barkley on fourth down earlier in the year. It’s not outlandish or delusional to think Eli threw to where he was expecting Barkley to be. No doubt Eli and Barkley discussed it. I don’t see how that play proves anything other than they simply missed the connection.
the pass to Barkley was not in an ideal spot, imo.
The defense had two men on Barkley. The ideal spot was to lead him because he had both men beat and the single-high safety was late getting over. Not sure if he would have scored, and who can say whether it was a bad throw, given that we don't know what the play was supposed to be. On top of that, the drive worked out even better for the Giants since they scored the TD anyway and ran more clock off which was crucial.
And Barkley turned to look for the ball twice as he ran the route but didn't get his head around far enough to pick up the ball until too late to adjust. I'm pretty sure where the ball was placed would have made for a very difficult catch given the double-coverage.
But an ideal spot for that ball given how it unfolded would have been leading Barkley on the sideline.
Mistakes are magnified on a bad team where the margin for error is smaller. Nobody cares if he misses an open receiver if the offense is averaging 28 points and he's playing well.
If that were the case they should cut the guy tomorrow, the Giants supposedly shipped out guys for a lot less than that.
I doubt he'd be that selfish or stupid. That's the kind of thing that sticks out like a sore thumb, even if he did want to get back at OBJ somehow.
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Just maybe, he's sticking it to Odell for his comments.
How dumb can u be
If the FO was serious about going forward the with Eli, they should have made Gilbride the head coach
Hey, nice to know Kevin Gilbride posts on BBI. How ya doin Kevin?
The nitpicking is out of control
https://www.giants.com/video/all-touchdowns-from-giants-vs-49ers
Very nice. This gets ignored because, idk why actually
The OL has been horrific in run blocking but merely below average in pass blocking. Top 10 Most Pressured QB's - ( New Window )
You want to look up who has been sacked the most?
[quote] but yet some are going play by play, in slow motion, looking for plays where Eli is not throwing to the right player? Plus they are doing this without knowing the progressions? You do realize you could do this for any QB in the NFL right? Its a game played by people, not Madden, and these guys have about 2-3 seconds to make a decision. Sure, if we are sitting on our couch watch a frame by frame slow-mo I bet there are other people open. However what about the fact that most times Eli completed the pass he was throwing.
+1
And agree that every QB misses throws. God forbid Eli miss any though. Then the whole world gets out their pitchforks and torches. He also had 3tds and no ints.
Is anybody saying that?
Counterpoint, the bizarre attempt to find new ways to criticize him each week is what has gotten out of control.
Can't even say he had a good game on Monday night. That's what's comical.
That example from Baldy perfectly illustrates this... And it ISNT a "once in a while" thing for Eli. He is flat out "shell-shocked" beyond repair.
Well, I hope you enjoy it again next year when he's starting again.
Take MNF, Eli had his best pocket in years for most of the game. Keep in mind the 49ers had EIGHT sacks the week before. Eli underthrew Odell, Barkley, and Engram on go/wheel easy LONG td's. He panicked and checked down 3 times, including the Baldy video. There is simply no other qb in the NFL with a player like Beckham, that checks down there BEFORE looking 13's way. Eli is a clock panic'er in the pocket. Of course, he is the exact opposite of the clock pre play, he loves to pressure the OL into false starts by winding it to 1. Because he must scream and point at that miracle MIKE LB'er LOL. It's seriously made our O great all these years.
There are large handful that cry worse than cowboys fans, and that’s what I find truly comical.
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that are delusional. That's pretty comical to me.
There are large handful that cry worse than cowboys fans, and that’s what I find truly comical.
I wouldn't expect you to see it there pal. Everyone in the world sees it except a small handful of Eli's most faithful. He deserves to be criticized for his play.
Once Barkley turns up field, if he looks for the ball like most normal WRs do... it’s an easy catch, it’s an easy track of the ball. But since he never looks for it... it looks like it’s elis fault even though it just missed his foot.
Anyone see Rodgers touchdown pass to Jones yesterday. Jones has to turn around and back pedal for a few steps before making the catch? That’s call tracking the ball and making the catch... something Barkley did not do whatsoever.
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that are delusional. That's pretty comical to me.
There are large handful that cry worse than cowboys fans, and that’s what I find truly comical.
I wouldn't expect you to see it there pal. Everyone in the world sees it except a small handful of Eli's most faithful. He deserves to be criticized for his play.
Pleas on the post above yours, the poster is bitching about a TD pass that went through engrams hands as a mean to shit on him. Like I said... it’s comical at this point.
Sy disagrees with you.
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The throw to Barkley was absolutely not an underthrow or even a bad throw. As a matter of fact.... it had no chance of being completed due to the fact BARKLEY NEVER LOOKED FOR THE BALL!
Sy disagrees with you.
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He did have 2 poor under throws on plays where Beckham and Barkley beat their man deep, respectively.
And I disagree with him on it. I think it could have easily been caught if Barkley looks for the ball earlier.
Lol. Why because I disagree with a few plays? Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
Seems to me that the ones that discuss such things that really aren't likely to happen but they WANT to have happen are the ones that lack self awareness that they are speaking emotionally rather than logically.
Britt, breakin news....you are not.
You're Mr. Objective, right? Everybody thinks they are.
Britt, breakin news....you are not.
Sometimes I wonder what the fuck you’re talking about. Then I realize even you don’t know. It’s always an interior motive with you. But you aren’t smart enough to even know what one is.
OMG i defended Eli for his career so I can’t defend a play here and there anymore.
And I love how you bust Britts balls as if you’re smarter than him... even though he was more accurate than anyone else in BBI on what was gonna happen to Eli this year.
He did throw a back shoulder to Barkley on fourth down earlier in the year. It’s not outlandish or delusional to think Eli threw to where he was expecting Barkley to be. No doubt Eli and Barkley discussed it. I don’t see how that play proves anything other than they simply missed the connection.
The defense had two men on Barkley. The ideal spot was to lead him because he had both men beat and the single-high safety was late getting over. Not sure if he would have scored, and who can say whether it was a bad throw, given that we don't know what the play was supposed to be. On top of that, the drive worked out even better for the Giants since they scored the TD anyway and ran more clock off which was crucial.
And Barkley turned to look for the ball twice as he ran the route but didn't get his head around far enough to pick up the ball until too late to adjust. I'm pretty sure where the ball was placed would have made for a very difficult catch given the double-coverage.
But an ideal spot for that ball given how it unfolded would have been leading Barkley on the sideline.