Yanks have 11 teams interested in Sonny Gray. Including the Reds who some say are a great fit sine they hired Grays old Vanderbilt coach who is like a frat her to him.
This is a good chance to geat more good prospects for this organization. Hoping for a bidding war!! Fleece em Cash!!!
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That is just his opinion. I doubt Gray is worth Downs.
His name is Jeter bro...tis destiny
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had a tweet that made zero sense saying that due to the Gregorious injury the expected ask from the Yankees is the Reds top SS prospect Jeter Downs; but Downs just turned 20 years old and spent last year in A ball. Don't understand how Didi's injury plays into getting a 20 year old SS at all.
His name is Jeter bro...tis destiny
Reds missed out on the last Jeter by picking an outfielder at #5 overall (Chad Mattola). Jeter then taken 6th by the smartest franchise in baseball.
They may not make that mistake again.
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Heyman is probably the last guy you want to go to for info or rumors. He seems cut out of everything that Scott Boras doesn't feed him. Heyman has really fallen off.
That was actually a Tigers scout, Hal Newhouser. Tigers picked Phil Nevin #1 overall, and Newhouser quit.
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had a tweet that made zero sense saying that due to the Gregorious injury the expected ask from the Yankees is the Reds top SS prospect Jeter Downs; but Downs just turned 20 years old and spent last year in A ball. Don't understand how Didi's injury plays into getting a 20 year old SS at all.
That is just his opinion. I doubt Gray is worth Downs.
A youngish starting MLB pitcher without injury history is not worth an A ball player? Gray has great stuff. He is not a schlub, except when he pitches at Yankee Stadium.
He is probably worth Downs and more.
Frankly, they shouldnt need to add a ton. One year of control on each player until FA, and the Reds arent winning shit this year. Gray and a soon-to-be Rule 5-er and some cash ought to do it.
The Astros drafted Phil Nevin #1 in 1992. Not the Reds not the Tigers.
I would sooooo do Gray, Fraiser, minor piece and Adams for Kluber.
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Kluber
Sevy
Corbin
Tanaka
CC
Lights out!!
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It's part of the trade he has in the works for Kluber. I'm hoping the pieces the Yankees get back are players the Indians want and part of the mix for Kluber.
I would sooooo do Gray, Fraiser, minor piece and Adams for Kluber.
Imagine
Kluber
Sevy
Corbin
Tanaka
CC
Lights out!!
Thats not close to what it would take to get Kluber
...to get rid of Sonny Gray?
My mistake. Hal Newhouser played for the Tigers, so I always associate him with that team. He was a scout for the Astros.
Move Gray for what ever you can get. Sign Corbin. He's from the NY area.
Work out a trade for Kluber. I'd include Andujar in that mix. The boy can hit but he's a nightmare in the field.
That's why I suspect Cashman is going to want to trade Gray for one or two guys who don't need Rule 5 protection for a while- next year is going to be very difficult to protect everyone as well.
I also think that guys like Torreyes and Cessa could be in trouble if the Yanks can't make 2-3 small trades of the Rule 5 eligibles.
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Heyman is probably the last guy you want to go to for info or rumors. He seems cut out of everything that Scott Boras doesn't feed him. Heyman has really fallen off.
He's just repeating what is really common knowledge- if the Yanks want to sign Machado, the odds are heavily in their favor that he will agree with them. He has reportedly told teammates and friends for most of that past year that the Yanks are his preferred destination.
If the Yankees trade for either of them they're going to have to give back a package that will hurt badly. One of the reasons I think Andujar has a lot of value even though he's a DH is because he's had a great season in MLB. If you look at what the Red Sox traded for Sale everyone thought the White Sox did really well. But none of those guys had ever done anything in MLB and they still haven't.
Andujar and Sheffield is a good start but there will have to be 2 or 3 more very good pieces to get either of those pitchers back.
Ok, Bye Felicia
How many better position players would you say there are on baseball than Machado?
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hate them. Just cant stand him as a player, we can spend that money more wisely too.
How many better position players would you say there are on baseball than Machado?
Their position players are probably pretty much set, with the variable of whether Pedroia can make a healthy return.
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hate them. Just cant stand him as a player, we can spend that money more wisely too.
How many better position players would you say there are on baseball than Machado?
Trout, Arenado, Betts, Judge. Possibly Jose Ramirez, Yelich, Harper or Lindor. The list isnt long
Not sure about Yelich, Lindor and Ramirez. He is up there with the best.
I could totally see the Phillies stupidly give Machado a 13 year $390 mill deal that he can't refuse. And then Philly sports talk radio would be ripping him every day for the next gazillion years as an overpaid bum. I think Machado will do everything humanly possible to get paid but also be a Yankee. But I think Machado wants the Yankees way more than they want him.
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hate them. Just cant stand him as a player, we can spend that money more wisely too.
How many better position players would you say there are on baseball than Machado?
Trout, Arenado, Betts, Judge. Possibly Jose Ramirez, Yelich, Harper or Lindor. The list isnt long
Not sure about Yelich, Lindor and Ramirez. He is up there with the best.
Altuve.
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hate them. Just cant stand him as a player, we can spend that money more wisely too.
How many better position players would you say there are on baseball than Machado?
Trout, Arenado, Betts, Judge. Possibly Jose Ramirez, Yelich, Harper or Lindor. The list isnt long
Not sure about Yelich, Lindor and Ramirez. He is up there with the best.
Altuve.
Hmmm, yeah. Not this year, but previous two.
Yeah, add $70 mill for 2 contracts which is more than Oakland paid their entire team and it won't even include one of the SPs they will be signing.
Absolutely ZERO need for this.
They have Stanton and Judge, along with an emerging Torres and maybe Andujar, if they don't move him.
Machado would give them flexibility to trade Andujar for some top-end SP (the real weakness of the team). Harper doesn't really give them any extra depth.
I would be fine with Machado, one of Happ or Corbin, and a trade for one front-of-the-rotation guys- and call it an off-season. Maybe they can make a move or two to bring in some vets at 2B and LF to challenge the incumbents.
I would at least ask the Dodgers what kind of return they can offer for Stanton. I am not convinced that he really wants to stay in NY- and he has an opt-out in 2020- I think he uses that to escape NY and go to the Dodgers. May as well see what kind of return you can get now.
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Come on Steinbrenner.
Absolutely ZERO need for this.
They have Stanton and Judge, along with an emerging Torres and maybe Andujar, if they don't move him.
Machado would give them flexibility to trade Andujar for some top-end SP (the real weakness of the team). Harper doesn't really give them any extra depth.
I would be fine with Machado, one of Happ or Corbin, and a trade for one front-of-the-rotation guys- and call it an off-season. Maybe they can make a move or two to bring in some vets at 2B and LF to challenge the incumbents.
I would at least ask the Dodgers what kind of return they can offer for Stanton. I am not convinced that he really wants to stay in NY- and he has an opt-out in 2020- I think he uses that to escape NY and go to the Dodgers. May as well see what kind of return you can get now.
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Come on Steinbrenner.
Absolutely ZERO need for this.
They have Stanton and Judge, along with an emerging Torres and maybe Andujar, if they don't move him.
Machado would give them flexibility to trade Andujar for some top-end SP (the real weakness of the team). Harper doesn't really give them any extra depth.
I would be fine with Machado, one of Happ or Corbin, and a trade for one front-of-the-rotation guys- and call it an off-season. Maybe they can make a move or two to bring in some vets at 2B and LF to challenge the incumbents.
I would at least ask the Dodgers what kind of return they can offer for Stanton. I am not convinced that he really wants to stay in NY- and he has an opt-out in 2020- I think he uses that to escape NY and go to the Dodgers. May as well see what kind of return you can get now.
Stanton isnt opting out of that insane contract. The Yankees are stuck with him unless they eat a decent chunk of his $$$.
Two things.
One- Stanton has never reached FA. He is likely at the stage of his career where he wants a say in where he makes his money.
Two- Stanton's AVV (the number used for luxury tax computation) is only $22M. That's an enormous bargain for a guy with annual MVP/All Star upside. When we are talking about Machado and Harper pushing $30M annually, when those two sign, there will be teams asking about Stanton from the viewpoint that the luxury tax hit will not be that bad for a star player.
As it stands now, the contract is likely to be a moderate discount to new FA deals for similar bats in cash terms, and a significant discount in LuxTax terms.
Stanton holds the power, so it's hard to imagine anything getting done with anyone but LAD, but the underlying point is that there would have to be some true value coming back to the Yankees. Absolutely not just a contract dump.
Reports of 3-4 years of austerity for the Dodgers (as recently cited from their marketing materials to prospective buyers) might make it even more unlikely than otherwise.
Just an interesting note on Boras.
If (when?) the Yanks move on Ellsbury, they will have no more Boras clients on their roster.
Don't know how to read that, but it is there.
That Robertson had led the players-only meeting that divvied up their postseason shares and the outcome of that meeting was that certain traveling employees did not receive a full share when they had in the past, and that may have upset some in the organization (with the imputation that it was somehow Robertson's fault).
Doesn't make a ton of sense to me to sell low unless they really think he's toast.
I personally value his potential bounce-back more than the very small return I think they'd get in a trade. I was a huge fan of 2017 Kahnle.
I think there is plenty of flexibility built into the roster. The only question that I have is whether they attempt to grab it now to protect more players, or wait to sign some FA/make trades.
For example, does anyone here seriously expect them to keep AJ Cole on the roster after the contract tender deadline?
Luis Cessa is out of options and hasn't pitched well on a consistent basis.
Sonny Gray- Obvious.
Ben Heller is unlikely to be ready for the start of 2019 after TJ surgery- and might not return until late in the season. He could be a non-tender guy they bring back on a minor league deal.
Kahnle- he really lost something in 2018- was it injury or just ineffectiveness? Either way, he could be on the bubble.
Hanser Alberto- this guy just looks like the classic "claim and cut" guy, who you claim on waivers and waive later to try and slip him through to assign to AAA.
Torreyes- been a nice player, but there are now more athletic options with bigger upside available (Wade, Estrada).
Didi- the (several) million dollar question- tender him or let him walk?
And as always, Ellsbury. At what point do the Yanks cut bait here?
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