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New York Giants-Tampa Bay Buccaneers Post-Game Discussion

Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/18/2018 4:04 pm
Nothing is ever easy.
wow  
giantfan2000 : 11/18/2018 4:04 pm : link
the offense is gelling .. we could be dangerous

but defense just is a sieve
Say bye to Herbert  
spike : 11/18/2018 4:05 pm : link
Go Eli
SB  
Ash_3 : 11/18/2018 4:05 pm : link
is an incredible football player.
Eli 17-18  
jeff57 : 11/18/2018 4:05 pm : link
231. Barkley 142 on ground
Jamon  
spike : 11/18/2018 4:05 pm : link
is the MVP
Whew!!! Our defense was pretty bad - except for 2 turnovers.  
Ira : 11/18/2018 4:06 pm : link
Our offense was pretty good. Eli - Barkley - Beckham with an assist for Engram and steady play by the o-line.
Tampa does put up a lot of yards  
widmerseyebrow : 11/18/2018 4:06 pm : link
Hopefully that's just a down game for us, but with our pass rush options...maybe not.
It's amazing what happens when you have a run game....  
Britt in VA : 11/18/2018 4:06 pm : link
and can pass block.
Barely beat the Bucs at home.  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/18/2018 4:07 pm : link
Impressive.
Gee  
Joey in VA : 11/18/2018 4:07 pm : link
When you run run run run and play action look what happens. It took him this long to figure out that you feed your best player and build the offense from the running game?
It feels good to win!  
truebluelarry : 11/18/2018 4:07 pm : link
The defense was abysmal today though, and Tampa is a bad team. I don't expect many wore W's this year.
Nothing like playing an even worse team  
Greg from LI : 11/18/2018 4:07 pm : link
to make a bad team look OK
Great to win  
Jim in Forest Hills : 11/18/2018 4:07 pm : link
Saquon is just so impressive

Obj, Ss, Ee were clutch.

Eli played smart.

Defense was unsightly.

Take the dub!
The scary thing  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/18/2018 4:08 pm : link
Is Barkley was barely tripped up on five or six runs. He easily could have gone for 250 yards.
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/18/2018 4:08 pm : link
Barkley is a stud.

Our coaching staff doesn't inspire me.
Some  
AcidTest : 11/18/2018 4:08 pm : link
good:

Very good play by the OL. Brown seems to have settled in at RG. Eli, Barkley, SS, and Engram also played well.

Good ST, especially Rosas and Coleman.

D was very bad, especially the secondary. We lose this game if Winston starts. Fitzpatrick was awful. We also dropped at least two INTs. Good game by Edwards.
TB  
Danny L : 11/18/2018 4:08 pm : link
is loaded on offense. Yes they suffer from turnovers and suspect QB play. But talent wise in the skills positions, they are solid across the board.
Yeah the D played bad, especially in the 2nd half but they had their plate full.
Offense  
MookGiants : 11/18/2018 4:10 pm : link
played a terrific game. Just about everyone.

Defense still leaves a lot to be desired, but it was nice to see the offense click for a change, even against a garbage team.
We are still alive  
spike : 11/18/2018 4:10 pm : link
for the playoffs!
I swear..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/18/2018 4:11 pm : link
some people would rather see us lose:

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Barely beat the Bucs at home.
Dave in Hoboken : 4:07 pm : link : reply
Impressive.


Every fucking week this moron rips the team. They win and he sounds like he he's not happy.

LOL
RE: Eli 17-18  
kcgiants : 11/18/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14182319 jeff57 said:
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231. Barkley 142 on ground


Eli sucks. He wasn't perfect. Only 17-18. Missed one pass and was sacked when he had .00001 second to pass. He just sucks.
Good Win  
Rflairr : 11/18/2018 4:11 pm : link
But Landon Collins is so overrated it isn’t funny.
RE: Some  
gmenatlarge : 11/18/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 14182341 AcidTest said:
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good:

Very good play by the OL. Brown seems to have settled in at RG. Eli, Barkley, SS, and Engram also played well.

Good ST, especially Rosas and Coleman.

D was very bad, especially the secondary. We lose this game if Winston starts. Fitzpatrick was awful. We also dropped at least two INTs. Good game by Edwards.


That’s BS on Winston, he tried to throw several picks and if he had started would have reverted to his usual bad play.
RE: ...  
Blue21 : 11/18/2018 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14182339 Eric from BBI said:
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Barkley is a stud.

Our coaching staff doesn't inspire me.


Especially our DC. What happened to that aggressive D we kept hearing about.
38 points  
bluepepper : 11/18/2018 4:12 pm : link
after 27 Monday. Yes, crappy defenses but still we've got serious weapons. If the o-line plays decent no reason we shouldn't keep putting up the points. Defense springing leaks everywhere of course but after starting 1-7 I am not going to dwell on the negatives.
RE: I swear..  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/18/2018 4:12 pm : link
In comment 14182354 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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some people would rather see us lose:



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Barely beat the Bucs at home.
Dave in Hoboken : 4:07 pm : link : reply
Impressive.



Every fucking week this moron rips the team. They win and he sounds like he he's not happy.

LOL


Uh oh. He's going to start to see red again. It's so easy to trigger this idiot. Watch him go. And go!
Dottino to Oglestree on the pick six:  
bceagle05 : 11/18/2018 4:13 pm : link
"Gave you guys a nice bulge."
RE: Say bye to Herbert  
gmenatlarge : 11/18/2018 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14182316 spike said:
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Go Eli


Jeez, make it stop! We weren’t getting the #1 pick anywy!
Pash rush  
HoustonGiant : 11/18/2018 4:13 pm : link
Changes everything....


We have no push.
Its a win  
XBRONX : 11/18/2018 4:13 pm : link
but the D sucks. Peyton Barber and Winston. The D blows
...  
christian : 11/18/2018 4:14 pm : link
This is a 6 win type team, that is improving upon a 3 win season.

Easy to get on the defense, but there are a good 5-6 guys starting who won't be in the NFL next year.
RE: I swear..  
section125 : 11/18/2018 4:14 pm : link
In comment 14182354 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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some people would rather see us lose:



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Barely beat the Bucs at home.
Dave in Hoboken : 4:07 pm : link : reply
Impressive.



Every fucking week this moron rips the team. They win and he sounds like he he's not happy.

LOL


Fails to understand that this isn't New England vs Cleveland. This a bad 2-7 team playing an equally bad 3-6 team.
QB wasnt/isnt the issue MAIN(its in caps for the obtuse)  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/18/2018 4:14 pm : link
for this team. the Last two games should prove that even to his biggest haters.

Yes Eli needs a successor and has a very short shelf life. And yes he had his part in this seasons pathetic play but the OL becoming mediocre as done wonders. And yeah Tampa's D sucks. Thought I read here JPP was back to being awesome again.

Not sure what they should do next year in the draft. They are playing themselves out of a top 5 pick IMO. The good/bad news is there are a million needs on D and still need OL help badly so BPA will be easy as there will be guys at spots of need avaialble
RE: Offense  
gmenatlarge : 11/18/2018 4:15 pm : link
In comment 14182349 MookGiants said:
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played a terrific game. Just about everyone.

Defense still leaves a lot to be desired, but it was nice to see the offense click for a change, even against a garbage team.


OV invisible except for penalties.
I'm not sure whether I should be happy or sad  
BestFeature : 11/18/2018 4:15 pm : link
On the one hand, nice job offense. On the other hand, this defense is absolutely putrid and we probably should have lost. And our pick is getting worse and worse.
Congrats  
LG in NYC : 11/18/2018 4:15 pm : link
great game by the OLine, Saquan, Eli, Engram and OBJ.
and kudos to the coaching staff for keeping these guys playing hard and believing in themselves.

we get to feel good for at least another week.

D played well early and then seemed to get bitten by the 'back-up' monster.
Missed that game but it sounds like simple  
idiotsavant : 11/18/2018 4:16 pm : link
Quick to the line zone run blocking. Finally for gosh sales. Sheesh.

Still love the betch. He needs playmakers and smart ballers.
Offense moved the ball which was good...  
EricJ : 11/18/2018 4:16 pm : link
Defense did not play well despite getting the turnovers.
Tampa Bay has a great offense  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 11/18/2018 4:16 pm : link
That is turnover prone. That is what they did today. They make a lot of defenses look bad. Ours looked confused at times.

We need to draft some pass rushers. Vernon does not look right.
RE: Gee  
widmerseyebrow : 11/18/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14182330 Joey in VA said:
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When you run run run run and play action look what happens. It took him this long to figure out that you feed your best player and build the offense from the running game?


I think it's obvious that's what they wanted to do from the start, but haven't been able to until recently.
RE: RE: Offense  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/18/2018 4:17 pm : link
In comment 14182380 gmenatlarge said:
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played a terrific game. Just about everyone.

Defense still leaves a lot to be desired, but it was nice to see the offense click for a change, even against a garbage team.



OV invisible except for penalties.


Wont be an issue next year. He'll be gone as soon as the season is over Huge mistake by Reese, though that's redundant.
Bad Defense You Say  
Arkbach : 11/18/2018 4:17 pm : link
the last I checked New Orleans sucked on defense and look where they are.
RE: ...  
bigbluescot : 11/18/2018 4:18 pm : link
In comment 14182339 Eric from BBI said:
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Barkley is a stud.

Our coaching staff doesn't inspire me.


I actually think Bettcher is a good DC, I just think he needs to have very good corners to work in his scheme. He doesn't have them here, so he's went away from the blitz. His MO in Arizona was letting his CB's go on a island and bringing the house. He's getting more and more shy to do so here.

Shurmur I don't really rate.
Q. Williams, J. Allen, Bosa or Ferrell  
jeff57 : 11/18/2018 4:18 pm : link
Should be the first round pick
I hope these wins keep on coming  
Chris684 : 11/18/2018 4:18 pm : link
I love watching the anti-Eli/anti-draft Saquon people running from thread to thread to throw cold water on anything they do.

I love this feeling for the team. I love how good it must feel for all of them to stick together. Win next week and I’ll be really impressed.
RE: Eli 17-18  
Jalapeno : 11/18/2018 4:18 pm : link
In comment 14182319 jeff57 said:
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231. Barkley 142 on ground


Amazing!!
Never easy ...  
Bluesbreaker : 11/18/2018 4:19 pm : link
Was waiting Jackson to take the punt to the house ..
Place is a heck of a lot better when winning .
Probably not gonna run the table but It's what we should all
hope for in reality .
What drives me crazy is the piss poor tackling . The Reffs
were God Awful as well as our tackling but watching them
win and enjoy it is never a bad thing .
We can bitch about Collins he still led with 11 tackles
the lack of a top Free safety doesn't help .
Not that he's a world beater but Brown being halfway competent  
bigbluescot : 11/18/2018 4:19 pm : link
is a major major upgrade. I know TB aren't a great defense, but we were creating legitimate holes, he seems to be able to move his man and the center position seems to have improved somewhat because of it. Even Wheeler was getting a bit of push.
If these wins were costing us Trevor Lawrence  
Ash_3 : 11/18/2018 4:21 pm : link
I'd be furious. They're not. We won't make the playoffs and I still think this is a 4-12/5-11 type team. We'll need to find a QB sooner rather than later.

But this was a fun win and frankly I think the next winning Giants team we see won't have DG and PS at the helm.
Landon and Wynn being examined for  
Steve in South Jersey : 11/18/2018 4:21 pm : link
concussions
Let's not forget that the dline  
section125 : 11/18/2018 4:21 pm : link
was held on several plays. One they picked up the flag for no reason. #69 was tackling people all day and on the play after Vernons two offsides, he grabbed Veron straight up when Vernon had a clear path to the QB. One he wrapped up Carter so bad that Spielman was wondering what they were looking at. They called Vernon on a questionable facemask to facemask tackle and didnot call one when Coleman was speared on a return.

Giants will have plenty of requests for clarification from the head of officials.

However, Bettcher's defense is awful.
Eli  
Marty866b : 11/18/2018 4:22 pm : link
Was just great today. The o-line was really good again and even though the defense sucks ass the team was actually enjoyable to watch.
On the really negative side, we really miss Snacks in the middle as the two guys who have replaced him have been putrid. Both Hill and Tomlinson have done nothing in the middle of the line. Tomlinson,IMO, has been a big disappointment as a very high second round pick and the jury is out on Hill who has flashed here and there but has seemingly regressed lately. These two got pushed around all day today. I don't know why Wynn doesn't get more snaps as Vernon,Barwin, and Martin stink.
If the giants don't like the quarterbacks again, i would take a good long look at Williams from Alabama. great interior pass rusher who lives in the backfield. He is nothing like Tomlinson.
Jags hvae the same record as the Giants  
spike : 11/18/2018 4:23 pm : link
Fire Marrone!
RE: Bad Defense You Say  
section125 : 11/18/2018 4:23 pm : link
In comment 14182399 Arkbach said:
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the last I checked New Orleans sucked on defense and look where they are.


Not this year.
RE: ...  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 11/18/2018 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14182376 christian said:
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This is a 6 win type team, that is improving upon a 3 win season.

Easy to get on the defense, but there are a good 5-6 guys starting who won't be in the NFL next year.


This team won't win another game. Look at the schedule. Who are they going to beat? Maybe Washington now that Alex Smith is done. But nobody else is likely to lose to this horrendous defense.
RE: Say bye to Herbert  
FStubbs : 11/18/2018 4:26 pm : link
In comment 14182316 spike said:
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Go Eli


Herbert's been a Raider for several weeks now.

We'll still probably have a top 10-15 pick.
RE: I swear..  
map7711 : 11/18/2018 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14182354 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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Barely beat the Bucs at home.
Dave in Hoboken : 4:07 pm : link : reply
Impressive.



Every fucking week this moron rips the team. They win and he sounds like he he's not happy.

LOL


+10000

He sucks.
RE: RE: I swear..  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/18/2018 4:28 pm : link
In comment 14182444 map7711 said:
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some people would rather see us lose:



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Barely beat the Bucs at home.
Dave in Hoboken : 4:07 pm : link : reply
Impressive.



Every fucking week this moron rips the team. They win and he sounds like he he's not happy.

LOL



+10000

He sucks.


Go swallow his life-juice some more.
RE: RE: RE: I swear..  
map7711 : 11/18/2018 4:29 pm : link
In comment 14182447 Dave in Hoboken said:
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some people would rather see us lose:



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Barely beat the Bucs at home.
Dave in Hoboken : 4:07 pm : link : reply
Impressive.



Every fucking week this moron rips the team. They win and he sounds like he he's not happy.

LOL



+10000

He sucks.



Go swallow his life-juice some more.


Dude you're invisible all game when we're winning. Other game threads we are not doing well - you are all over it. Please. You suck.
life juice?  
Britt in VA : 11/18/2018 4:32 pm : link
?
RE: I'm not sure whether I should be happy or sad  
Eman11 : 11/18/2018 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14182381 BestFeature said:
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On the one hand, nice job offense. On the other hand, this defense is absolutely putrid and we probably should have lost. And our pick is getting worse and worse.


Enjoy the damn win and remember OBJ was snagged at #12 and we were damn lucky a talent like Saqoun was there last year when we picked.
Saints #15 in scoring defense  
Arkbach : 11/18/2018 4:35 pm : link
Giants #18

So our defense is comparable
Reference: NFL.com/stats
...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/18/2018 4:35 pm : link
Combined, both teams were 8-of-9 in the red zone. Tampa had 510 yards of offense.
Bettcher  
Sammo85 : 11/18/2018 4:39 pm : link
Folks need to understand we are switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4. It normally takes several seasons to conduct that transition.

I don’t believe Bettcher has many of the players he wants in his scheme.
RE: RE: RE: RE: I swear..  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/18/2018 4:39 pm : link
In comment 14182453 map7711 said:
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Barely beat the Bucs at home.
Dave in Hoboken : 4:07 pm : link : reply
Impressive.



Every fucking week this moron rips the team. They win and he sounds like he he's not happy.

LOL



+10000

He sucks.



Go swallow his life-juice some more.



Dude you're invisible all game when we're winning. Other game threads we are not doing well - you are all over it. Please. You suck.


This is the least interested I've been in in this team ever. Even our losses recently, I haven't posted a ton in those threads. It's an awful, boring, football team. Sorry that hurts your little feelings, but it's true. Enjoy the wins against the 49ers and Bucs, though.
One other bright spot  
montanagiant : 11/18/2018 4:40 pm : link
2 games in a row where the Special Teams on Kicks looked better then avg
Defense Looked Bad in Spots, No Doubt...  
Jim in Tampa : 11/18/2018 4:42 pm : link
But they also had 4 interceptions and a 4th Down stop deep in their own end. That's not nothin.
Dave you were all over San Darnold’s  
Chris684 : 11/18/2018 4:45 pm : link
1st quarter preseason performance against us and now all of a sudden your interest is waning.

Convenient.

You come across as an entitled douche.
Odd game.  
Tom in NY : 11/18/2018 4:51 pm : link
The Giants score 38 points, are +4 in TO margin (with no TOs themselves), a defensive stop inside the 10 yard line, Eli misses one pass all day, Barkley runs for 149...and they still only win by 3 points, needing to cover an onside kick just to avert disaster.

How does that happen?

It's like the defense thought once they pulled Fitzpatrick that they didn't need to play anymore.

RE: Dave you were all over San Darnold’s  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/18/2018 4:54 pm : link
In comment 14182511 Chris684 said:
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1st quarter preseason performance against us and now all of a sudden your interest is waning.

Convenient.

You come across as an entitled douche.


All over? It was one of the first games of his career and our season, excuse me for being interested in August, after months and months of no football. How dare I!

You actually ARE a douche. And a very angry one at that. I'm far from the first person to make that observation.
RE: Bettcher  
LauderdaleMatty : 11/18/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 14182491 Sammo85 said:
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Folks need to understand we are switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4. It normally takes several seasons to conduct that transition.

I don’t believe Bettcher has many of the players he wants in his scheme.



You think? And there was no way he wanted Harrison traded. And maybe not even Apple. If the offense/OL could have played the way it did the last two weeks this team would be fighting for first place in the mediocre NFC east.

Maybe they got lucky wit Pulley and Brown and only need to spend one high pick on a RT.
Raped by the officials.  
Red Dog : 11/18/2018 4:57 pm : link
Lost in the win is the fact that the GIANTS were absolutely raped by the officials all game long.

They got it wrong on the Fitzpatrick fumble that was called a tipped ball.

On his one punt return, Quadree Henderson was hit in the head by a guy leading with his helmet and it wasn't called.

The YAC call back on the catch by Sterling Shepard was questionable. I wouldn't worry about that too much if the rest of the officiating was fair, but it wasn't.

TB was holding all day on offense and they repeatedly snapped the ball before their OL was set for a full count, but the zebras called multiple neutral zone infractions on the GIANTS.

The unsportsmanlike conduct on Wheeler was never explained to the TV audience, although that's on FOX whose game coverage may have hit a new all-time low with all the bullshit about Ohio State - Michigan, all the crap with their graphics and old film clips, their multiple program promos at the end of the chain breaks, and them losing video twice for extended periods of time.

But all in all, it appeared to me that the officials had money on Tampa to win outright.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I swear..  
McNally's_Nuts : 11/18/2018 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14182493 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Barely beat the Bucs at home.
Dave in Hoboken : 4:07 pm : link : reply
Impressive.



Every fucking week this moron rips the team. They win and he sounds like he he's not happy.

LOL



+10000

He sucks.



Go swallow his life-juice some more.



Dude you're invisible all game when we're winning. Other game threads we are not doing well - you are all over it. Please. You suck.



This is the least interested I've been in in this team ever. Even our losses recently, I haven't posted a ton in those threads. It's an awful, boring, football team. Sorry that hurts your little feelings, but it's true. Enjoy the wins against the 49ers and Bucs, though.


So why do you feel the need to post about it?
RE: Bettcher  
Simms11 : 11/18/2018 4:59 pm : link
In comment 14182491 Sammo85 said:
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Folks need to understand we are switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4. It normally takes several seasons to conduct that transition.

I don’t believe Bettcher has many of the players he wants in his scheme.


You can say that again! The LBers are atrocious and are fundamentally inept! Carter and Goodson are both young and I can give them a pass, but the others have been abysmal......Martin, Barwin and even Ogletree have not been good. A definite need to focus on this off-season, to include edge rusher.
Sure, Tampa Bay is bad, but they have weapons ...  
Manny in CA : 11/18/2018 5:13 pm : link

Which we saw today. They are 1st in the NFL in yards/game.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I swear..  
map7711 : 11/18/2018 5:16 pm : link
In comment 14182493 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Barely beat the Bucs at home.
Dave in Hoboken : 4:07 pm : link : reply
Impressive.



Every fucking week this moron rips the team. They win and he sounds like he he's not happy.

LOL



+10000

He sucks.



Go swallow his life-juice some more.



Dude you're invisible all game when we're winning. Other game threads we are not doing well - you are all over it. Please. You suck.



This is the least interested I've been in in this team ever. Even our losses recently, I haven't posted a ton in those threads. It's an awful, boring, football team. Sorry that hurts your little feelings, but it's true. Enjoy the wins against the 49ers and Bucs, though.


This is not a response from a true Giant fan. Not even close. Just read what he says.
The Giants  
mpinmaine : 11/18/2018 5:27 pm : link
Looked very good , best of the season by far. When they were up 31-14 they danced a celebrated and then almost gave up the entire lead..but they didn't. They looked good overall.
RE: RE: Bettcher  
Vanzetti : 11/18/2018 5:48 pm : link
In comment 14182563 Simms11 said:
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In comment 14182491 Sammo85 said:


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Folks need to understand we are switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4. It normally takes several seasons to conduct that transition.

I don’t believe Bettcher has many of the players he wants in his scheme.



You can say that again! The LBers are atrocious and are fundamentally inept! Carter and Goodson are both young and I can give them a pass, but the others have been abysmal......Martin, Barwin and even Ogletree have not been good. A definite need to focus on this off-season, to include edge rusher.


When teams are running up the middle, The LBers have to stay in. That is the primary reason Ogletree and Co have looked so poor in coverage. Other team runs play action and they can’t get proper depth. Ditto for Collins in coverage.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: I swear..  
Dave in Hoboken : 11/18/2018 5:58 pm : link
In comment 14182613 map7711 said:
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some people would rather see us lose:



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Barely beat the Bucs at home.
Dave in Hoboken : 4:07 pm : link : reply
Impressive.



Every fucking week this moron rips the team. They win and he sounds like he he's not happy.

LOL



+10000

He sucks.



Go swallow his life-juice some more.



Dude you're invisible all game when we're winning. Other game threads we are not doing well - you are all over it. Please. You suck.



This is the least interested I've been in in this team ever. Even our losses recently, I haven't posted a ton in those threads. It's an awful, boring, football team. Sorry that hurts your little feelings, but it's true. Enjoy the wins against the 49ers and Bucs, though.



This is not a response from a true Giant fan. Not even close. Just read what he says.


It's how alot of fans feel right now, genius.
What is this "true giants fan" junk?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 11/18/2018 6:23 pm : link
.
RE: Q. Williams, J. Allen, Bosa or Ferrell  
Jay on the Island : 11/18/2018 6:29 pm : link
In comment 14182403 jeff57 said:
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Should be the first round pick

Agreed but in this order Bosa, Q. Williams, Ferrell, Allen.
RE: ...  
gmenatlarge : 11/18/2018 6:50 pm : link
In comment 14182480 Eric from BBI said:
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Combined, both teams were 8-of-9 in the red zone. Tampa had 510 yards of offense.


Tampa also had 500 yds vs Wash, they have weapons but still NO pass rush.
RE: Barely beat the Bucs at home.  
BigBlueShock : 11/18/2018 6:54 pm : link
In comment 14182329 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Impressive.

Miserable fuck.
Meaningless wins suck & make QB Hell more likely bc of draft position  
TD : 11/18/2018 7:08 pm : link
GTFO with this “real fan” BS. Some fans aren’t enamored by shiny things and 3-13 or 6-10 seasons, year after year. Looks like that’s where we’re headed. I miss meaningful football.

I get some pleasure out of watching them still but I’d have preferred a string of ultra competitive losses starting at 1-7 en route to the top draft pick.
RE: Bettcher  
Ivan15 : 11/18/2018 7:16 pm : link
In comment 14182491 Sammo85 said:
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Folks need to understand we are switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4. It normally takes several seasons to conduct that transition.

I don’t believe Bettcher has many of the players he wants in his scheme.


I don’t agree. Many teams have been able to switch quickly. It isn’t about the scheme. It is about players and coaching. They specifically brought in players they thought would fit and let players leave who they didn’t think would fit. However, the coaches were slow in introducing the scheme and now they aren’t confident in the players they have, and neither am I. Vernon, Collins, and Jenkins all were supposed to fit this defense. Martin, Mauro played in it before. But who are the most reliable players? Wynn and rookie Carter.
Chances are the Giants are out of the Herbert sweepstakes  
Jay on the Island : 11/18/2018 7:16 pm : link
That might not be the worst thing and this is coming from a Herbert fan. The Giants could focus on a QB in 2020 what will surely be a strong class.
RE: Meaningless wins suck & make QB Hell more likely bc of draft position  
BigBlueShock : 11/18/2018 7:30 pm : link
In comment 14182863 TD said:
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GTFO with this “real fan” BS. Some fans aren’t enamored by shiny things and 3-13 or 6-10 seasons, year after year. Looks like that’s where we’re headed. I miss meaningful football.

I get some pleasure out of watching them still but I’d have preferred a string of ultra competitive losses starting at 1-7 en route to the top draft pick.

Just another ass clown that is still bent out of shape that they passed on the almighty Sam “The Legend” Darnold.

If you watch these games and come away thinking that Barkley is nothing more than a “shiny thing” you should really stop watching football. Sam Darnold isn’t a pimple on Barkley’s ass. Yeah, yeah, I know. But he’s a QB!!!! He must be awesome!!!!

Once Again,  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 11/18/2018 8:29 pm : link
the draft is going to be an exciting event. We will likely be in the top five picks. QBs might very well drop down the board. Herbert, Jones, Grier could end up mid-round. We will be arguing about QBs, DEs, ERs, and, of course, OL. If only we could corral three or four first round picks...
RE: If these wins were costing us Trevor Lawrence  
NikkiMac : 11/19/2018 9:09 am : link
In comment 14182415 Ash_3 said:
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I'd be furious. They're not. We won't make the playoffs and I still think this is a 4-12/5-11 type team. We'll need to find a QB sooner rather than later.

But this was a fun win and frankly I think the next winning Giants team we see won't have DG and PS at the helm.


Maybe you should wait on that determination they seem to be getting better regardless of what the defense just accounted for , I think they deserve another year and they have multi picks in the draft and I think they are going to acquire more in the off season ....... if this Oline holds up they are going to be unstoppable even with Eli .......
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