For the second week in a row. Say what you want, but when you commit to the run and let Barkley lead the offense, Eli still looks like a QB you can win with. Haters you can hate elsewhere this week. 17/18 231 yards and 2 TDs
concerned this thing ends up 5-11 for nyg and they end up in no mans land in draft.
Eli is not shutting up critics until he does more of this - the first half of the season counts too-and the problem is the critics are right that they have to move on except if NY makes playoffs (8-8 may win east this year).
but yes nice to see the wins and the good game from him.
concerned this thing ends up 5-11 for nyg and they end up in no mans land in draft.
Eli is not shutting up critics until he does more of this - the first half of the season counts too-and the problem is the critics are right that they have to move on except if NY makes playoffs (8-8 may win east this year).
but yes nice to see the wins and the good game from him.
He actually had a decent 1st half considering no protection and no running game...but don't worry I won't let a false narrative get in the way of a good story Hassan!!!
About his game on the broadcast. He missed one throw all day yet he wasn't talked about near enough IMO.
It seemed every read was spot on, throws were on the money and checks were pretty much all you could want. No doubt the running game helped but he did hit that long one early to OBJ to set the tone and keep Tampa's D honest IMO.
But at least the offense is taking on the look of one we can depend on week to week. I’d like to see more though. If you added up this entire season and judged everyone on the big picture you’d still be disappointed with EVERYTHING. The offense has a chance to give everyone reason to believe heading into the offeseason but there’s a lot of football to be played and two good weeks isn’t enough. Encouraging signs but Talk to me in January.
Yes, because they finally were facing a defense they could run on.
Don’t piss in the corn flakes just to be that guy. They “could” have run the ball on a lot of teams this season but couldn’t. How’d they look against the stupid skins? Or falcons?
They are playing better. Much better. It’s ok to admit that.
like Eli just won his 3rd Super Bowl. Eli is done. He just destroyed the Bucs. I'm happy about it. But 2 or 3 good games doesn't make a season. But hey...maybe we run the table and I'm wrong. I hope so.
I think the point is that if you give him some protection.... Â
That's always been the case. He wasn't winning earlier this year because we couldn't block for him and Saquon was getting tackled 5 years in the backfield every play.
Jamon Brown seems to have been a legit addition. The line has looked completely different since he was inserted in the lineup.
a positive impact. If nothing else Eli isn't just checking down in the last couple of games, which says a lot.
But, the same people who are saying this is the second coming of Eli are a lot of the same people who forget how good the 49ers 3rd stringer looked against a pathetic Raiders D. We just played the worst defense in the NFL. Next week is the test.
is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
if Eli lights it up and plays awesome the last several weeks and the team makes it to 6-10 or 7-9 i would be ok with what seemed implausible and let eli play next year potentially. make 2020 the year for qb if nothing looks good in this years draft.
that would be premised on idea o is clicking and keeping team together means we see the offense we expected this year coming to fruition.
Dep, I am certainly not going to say anything bad about him after today, but I think the consensus around those that want to move on from him is that he is not capable of being consistently this good to get the Giants to a position where they can be contenders. He is also really old in football years.
The more games he has like this against the likes of TB and SF, the more Mara is going to think we just need a couple tweaks around him. I only watched pieces of the game, but from what I saw he was very good today. I still don't think he is the solution moving forward.
is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
Uh, Eli won super bowl MVP with the corpse of David Diehl at left tackle and the worst running game in the league.
What's more likely, the difference was Jamon Brown or playing the 9ers and the Bucs?
If you cannot see the difference Brown is making, then you don't want to see it.
Yes two crappy teams, but he is still opening holes and keeping the pocket from collapsing.
What's more likely, the difference was Jamon Brown or playing the 9ers and the Bucs?
If you cannot see the difference Brown is making, then you don't want to see it.
Yes two crappy teams, but he is still opening holes and keeping the pocket from collapsing.
Tiny improvements make a huge difference.
I think it's clear as day Brown is better than Omameh, who was and is a fringe NFL player and one of the truly bad decisions this team has made in the last few years.
Is Jamon Brown the difference between getting routinely brutalized upfront in the first 8 weeks and having success the last 2 weeks?
I suspect it's much more about the opponents than a waiver wire player.
I loved the win. Please do not expect anyone but a fool to make any declarations about anything because our offense scored 31 points against a team averaging over 30 points against them this season. The last two games were the most winnable games on the schedule. I will be ready to capitulate once they do anything in a meaningful game against a team playing for something.
The problem is, this is the NFL, and it requires playing like this on a week to week basis to win consistently. So posts like that are bothersome. He used to be great like this weekly. That post was pointless.
is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
How much is Rodgers winning now? All I hear is excuses why he isn’t winning when he’s the highest paid player in the league.
will mean something if he plays well and wins. Don't really want to see last years performance next week. Don't give fuck how you play if you lose to the Eagles.
Look I understand Eli is coming to his end. But today he was very good. So for one week he had blocking, he had a run game and receivers that were able to separate from to defenders. His and the Giants season would have been much better if he was part of an offense that played well consistantly throughout the season - like today.
Easy to criticize from your keyboard but the blame goes to all facets of this team. Not one single player. So keep being critical of our QB but he doesn’t deserve it today for sure.
Look I understand Eli is coming to his end. But today he was very good. So for one week he had blocking, he had a run game and receivers that were able to separate from to defenders. His and the Giants season would have been much better if he was part of an offense that played well consistantly throughout the season - like today.
Easy to criticize from your keyboard but the blame goes to all facets of this team. Not one single player. So keep being critical of our QB but he doesn’t deserve it today for sure.
No, he doesn't deserve criticism for his performance today. But you are dancing around like the performance means something in the grand scheme of things. We are 3-7, coming off a 3-13 year. Eli is 38 years old in January. Maybe you want to see him play for this team as long as possible, regardless of the results. We are a bad team that just beat 2 other bad teams in back to back weeks.
I am happy for him today, but it is in the best interest of this organization to move on from Eli ASAP. For this team to consistently reach its full potential, it requires a new man under center. You don't have to be happy about it, but you will buy in when this team actually starts consistently winning games and becomes relevant in the playoff conversation.
is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
How much is Rodgers winning now? All I hear is excuses why he isn’t winning when he’s the highest paid player in the league.
If you’re watching Packers games and coming away with the idea that Rodgers is the reason that team has lost some games you should really consider finding another hobby because football isn’t for you. He’s literally the only reason they are even competitive
is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
Rogers is trully phenomenol and god like if he can win with Robert Newhouse at LT because Robert Newhouse was a Fullback for the Cowboys in the 1970s and I think he may be dead.
is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
How much is Rodgers winning now? All I hear is excuses why he isn’t winning when he’s the highest paid player in the league.
If you’re watching Packers games and coming away with the idea that Rodgers is the reason that team has lost some games you should really consider finding another hobby because football isn’t for you. He’s literally the only reason they are even competitive
No, I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy. All I’ve heard is Eli is paid to elevate those around him, yet the highest paid player in the league is sitting last in his division and all I hear is excuses.
How Eli is on 2019 team with his contract... 23mio is WAY too much money for him and next year, if they cut him, they create 17mio of cap space. It's great to see him play well and I still want the Giants to win out and take the division but the reality is, he's not anywhere near worth 23mio. He was worth giving a shot to this year cause as a cap cut, he'd provide no relief but next year, I just can't see it. If Eli and the offense play well, and the Giants win out or go 5-1, maybe they do restructure... but if the Giants lose to Phil and/or Chicago.. I'd expect to see Lauletta for Washington or the following game and him to get the last few games.
concerned this thing ends up 5-11 for nyg and they end up in no mans land in draft.
Eli is not shutting up critics until he does more of this - the first half of the season counts too-and the problem is the critics are right that they have to move on except if NY makes playoffs (8-8 may win east this year).read the post. Shut them up for one week
but yes nice to see the wins and the good game from him.
is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
. Who has more Super Bowl appearances, titles and MVPs? Rodgers or Eli? Hint it is not Rodgers
It was a pleasure to see touchdowns. I don’t care who they played. Â
Oline created some nice holes, Saquon just continually showing what a weapon he can be, and Eli on target all day to a bunch of different receivers. Defense looked pretty bad but at least got some TOs to stop drives.
Who the hell dropped that one incompletion?
RE: It was a pleasure to see touchdowns. I don’t care who they played. Â
Oline created some nice holes, Saquon just continually showing what a weapon he can be, and Eli on target all day to a bunch of different receivers. Defense looked pretty bad but at least got some TOs to stop drives.
Who the hell dropped that one incompletion?
Eli threw it on the wrong shoulder.
RE: It was a pleasure to see touchdowns. I don’t care who they played. Â
Oline created some nice holes, Saquon just continually showing what a weapon he can be, and Eli on target all day to a bunch of different receivers. Defense looked pretty bad but at least got some TOs to stop drives.
Who the hell dropped that one incompletion?
Barkley missed it. It was a combo of things:
1. Underthrown
2. Barkley picked it up late and couldn't adjust
Now has a 69% comp% for the season, which is >6% better than his previous career high.
His 6 INTs and 1.6% INT% are the best of his career. Previous low was a 2.1% INT% back in 2008 (only threw it 479 times that season!).
His passer rating now sits at 96.6 which is currently the best mark of his career.
His 7.7 ay/a is tied for the 2nd best mark of his career. The 8.1 ay/a in 2011 was the only time he exceeded it.
And on the negative side, he's set to obliterate his "record" for sacks. He's currently been sacked 36 times and the most he's been sacked in a single season is/was 39 back in 2013. He's getting sacked on 9% of his drop backs (~1 in 10) which blows away all previous seasons and his almost double his career mark.
RE: RE: It was a pleasure to see touchdowns. I don’t care who they played. Â
Oline created some nice holes, Saquon just continually showing what a weapon he can be, and Eli on target all day to a bunch of different receivers. Defense looked pretty bad but at least got some TOs to stop drives.
Who the hell dropped that one incompletion?
Eli threw it on the wrong shoulder.
Thx. Now I recall. Yeah agree he threw it on the wrong side. SB still almost made the circus catch. Stinkin’ rookie...
concerned this thing ends up 5-11 for nyg and they end up in no mans land in draft.
Eli is not shutting up critics until he does more of this - the first half of the season counts too-and the problem is the critics are right that they have to move on except if NY makes playoffs (8-8 may win east this year).
but yes nice to see the wins and the good game from him.
He actually had a decent 1st half considering no protection and no running game...but don't worry I won't let a false narrative get in the way of a good story Hassan!!!
Hahahaha if anyone would know a false narrative, it's you.
There has never been anything physically wrong with Eli, imv. It’s most likely between the ears, secondary to the cumulative beatings he has taken causing him to rush and make some lousy quick decisons.
Give him reasonable protection and of course a running game he’ll be good for several more seasons, assuming he wants to continue, imo
Eli showed he can still play. Maybe not as good as in his prime, but good enough.
Many were saying his body was done, but for me, it was always about the mental. Give him a consistently OK OL, and he's a QB you can win with. Not his fault the OL played like shit the first half the year.
That said, there's no guarantee this OL will continue to play well, or that next year will see any improvement. the shell shock can come back in an instant.
Now has a 69% comp% for the season, which is >6% better than his previous career high.
His 6 INTs and 1.6% INT% are the best of his career. Previous low was a 2.1% INT% back in 2008 (only threw it 479 times that season!).
His passer rating now sits at 96.6 which is currently the best mark of his career.
His 7.7 ay/a is tied for the 2nd best mark of his career. The 8.1 ay/a in 2011 was the only time he exceeded it.
And on the negative side, he's set to obliterate his "record" for sacks. He's currently been sacked 36 times and the most he's been sacked in a single season is/was 39 back in 2013. He's getting sacked on 9% of his drop backs (~1 in 10) which blows away all previous seasons and his almost double his career mark.
It is popular to mock DG and his derision of analytics, but what will happen when DG actually uses the analytics that you cite above to extend Eli? The sacks just reinforce the acknowledgement by DG that the OL must be fixed. He identified that as his no. 1 priority. Dedicating another off-season of OL centric moves (FA/draft) will shore up what Reese was never able to do in the last half a decade.
as priorities 1A and 1B. Personally, I view an atrocious OL as the one thing that can destroy a young QB as once you lose your pocket presence and internal clock (i.e. become shell shocked), it's hard to get it back. Whereas things like the speed of the game and throwing too many INTs are all correctable.
Also note that Eli's TD% is one of the lower #s of his career, though that's partly (largely?) due to the poor RZ play which can be attributable to the poor OL (no running game and/or pass protection). Though Eli's missed a couple easy ones to Beckham too.
that I think Eli's stats are indicative of the job Shurmur has done with the offense. When the hog mollies are mediocre, there are high % plays available to be made and he's scheming guys open.
Yesterday's only incompletion might be the best example of this as most expected a handoff or short throw to Beckham. Instead, he calls a wheel route to Barkley, which should've worked for 20+ yards.
even though career bests, are midpack this year from an overall ratings perspective. His qbr is 25th. Not good. Just for some contrast, Ryan Fitzpatrick has a 100 qb rating.
even though career bests, are midpack this year from an overall ratings perspective. His qbr is 25th. Not good. Just for some contrast, Ryan Fitzpatrick has a 100 qb rating.
I dont understand QBR whatsoever cause it makes little sense.
I saw Eli's QBR yesterday was 78 or 79 with only 1 incompletion which went off fingertips. HIS YPA was insane at 12.8.
But since he didnt throw for massive yards (he could have if we needed too) or a great number of TDs (he could have but the run game was working yesterday) he gets penalized for it. He played almost a perfect game. Thats why some of these advanced stats have little validity to me. Just like Eli's high QB ratings.... some of that high grade came in garbage time.
Though ill laugh harder when your handle becomes FRIP..hahaha
Are you suggesting death? I know you come across as a moron continually, but it is pretty harsh for somebody who is going through a serious health crisis like yourself to suggest that another poster die.
even though career bests, are midpack this year from an overall ratings perspective. His qbr is 25th. Not good. Just for some contrast, Ryan Fitzpatrick has a 100 qb rating.
His comp% is 6th and his INT% is tied for 5th. Passer rating and (arguably) the most important stat ay/a are middle of the pack.
Sack% is 7th worst with most of the guys behind him "mobile" QBs that generally try and hold it longer to make plays. If he wasn't leading the league in sacks, he's probably top 10 in AY/A.
Though ill laugh harder when your handle becomes FRIP..hahaha
How is this shit even allowed in BBI. Laughing at death? Jesus Christ.
There is a lot of crap that is selectively moderated. I reported a post a year ago by Dragon. The post still sits in the archives on BBI's servers. The Moderator's response was, "I can see how you would be upset by the comment.". The comment wasn't even directed at me. It was a disgusting/hateful comment wishing that Eli would break his back. But it still stands in testament to what is tolerated on BBI.
ESPN QBR while flawed, at least contextualizes when you are compiling stats. His stat line was classic lying with statistics. Is this his best season really?
You fail to mention a pretty important stat: Eli's terrible td pct. Id wish for the old Eli who threw picks but scored a lot. We have the inverse now.
I am glad he has played well this week and pretty good last week. Lets consider the quality of opponent and if it continues against better teams then we have something.
Team is still 3-7, and he still gets paid a lot. I think the OP and some of the posters here are too easily impressed......he should at the very least be having some good games in particular against dregs like SF and TB.
Micky has always been a terrible posting, but wishing death on someone? It's FOOTBALL for crissakes! It's a silly diversion from real life where giant men in tiny pants hit each other senseless - THAT is what drives you to snicker about wanting someone dead?
an NFL QB is supposed to do, feasting on crummy NFL Ds. I want to see him, actually the whole team, do this against quality competition for once. Please no sack fest against the Eagles.
many here enjoy the wins. But the tone of the OP does two things 1)imply what we saw from #10 was just a mirage earlier in the season wholly blamed on the line and 2)that two data points against terrible teams is proof positive Eli can be a consistent winning qb.
I can enjoy the wins and recognize the OP is way off in his post as well. I'm willing to see if this trend continues; quite frankly the idea of having Eli be a game manager with Barkley being the focus and throwing around 20-25 times a game is probably the best way to use him at this point which seems like the gameplan.
ESPN QBR while flawed, at least contextualizes when you are compiling stats. His stat line was classic lying with statistics. Is this his best season really?
You fail to mention a pretty important stat: Eli's terrible td pct. Id wish for the old Eli who threw picks but scored a lot. We have the inverse now.
I am glad he has played well this week and pretty good last week. Lets consider the quality of opponent and if it continues against better teams then we have something.
Team is still 3-7, and he still gets paid a lot. I think the OP and some of the posters here are too easily impressed......he should at the very least be having some good games in particular against dregs like SF and TB.
I did mention his TD% in a follow-up post. It wasn't highlighted in the first because it wasn't close to a career best/worst.
And when you start adding "context" to statistics, they are no longer statistics. Pure stats do not and should not include subjective measures and/or opinions. It's why some of PFFs grades (they're not stats) are so mind boggling (and I think PFF's grades are generally interesting).
stats do have to be contextualized, at least relative to peers and timeframes. While this is Eli's highest ranking in overall pure rating, he has had an overall league rank higher in the past relative to his peers. 30 TDs today does not mean the same thing as the 70s as well.
His ratings inflation is consistent with overall qb ratings going up significantly in past decade.
stats do have to be contextualized, at least relative to peers and timeframes. While this is Eli's highest ranking in overall pure rating, he has had an overall league rank higher in the past relative to his peers. 30 TDs today does not mean the same thing as the 70s as well.
His ratings inflation is consistent with overall qb ratings going up significantly in past decade.
Applying that type of context to stats is different than ESPN's QBR garbage which tries to adjust individual plays based on context (IIRC).
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
I can see Eli putting up about 11 more TDs and about 5 more INTs to go with 1300 yards more passing.
So I will go with
4250 yards
24 TDs
11 INTs
Nothing great or astounding. But people pay laugh at this... in 6 years when Eli is up for the HOF.... people will consider it a pretty good year.
Speaking of the HOF, Eli now needs just 1 more win to guarantee a (regular season) career record of .500 or better assuming he doesn't play beyond 2018.
many here enjoy the wins. But the tone of the OP does two things 1)imply what we saw from #10 was just a mirage earlier in the season wholly blamed on the line and 2)that two data points against terrible teams is proof positive Eli can be a consistent winning qb.
I can enjoy the wins and recognize the OP is way off in his post as well. I'm willing to see if this trend continues; quite frankly the idea of having Eli be a game manager with Barkley being the focus and throwing around 20-25 times a game is probably the best way to use him at this point which seems like the gameplan.
Hassan, I get it. I'm just sick of having nothing to root for and I'm all in on the winning. Draft position be darned. We landed OBJ with the 12th pick, I have faith we can get someone good wherever we pick. I want wins. Win baby win!!!
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
If you cant see it ..then i dont know what to tell you. Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
You dont know me to judge to personally judge me as what kind of fan..as i dont know you neither.
So maybe you can get away with personal attacks on others..that shit dont fly with me..and ill give it back and then some..i dont care.
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
If you cant see it ..then i dont know what to tell you. Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
You dont know me to judge to personally judge me as what kind of fan..as i dont know you neither.
So maybe you can get away with personal attacks on others..that shit dont fly with me..and ill give it back and then some..i dont care.
Actually we can judge you as you wanting someone to die. Usually shows a true test of character.
Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
If sarcasm takes the form of wishing death from a poster who can barely type a legible sentence, then yes, I don't get sarcasm.
as for being ALWAYS insulting - I disagree with a fair number of posts here without being nasty. To complete fools? I sure am. I'm surprised they even can figure that out....
Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
If sarcasm takes the form of wishing death from a poster who can barely type a legible sentence, then yes, I don't get sarcasm.
as for being ALWAYS insulting - I disagree with a fair number of posts here without being nasty. To complete fools? I sure am. I'm surprised they even can figure that out....
WTF? We are 6-20. The last 2 wins against 2 of the worst cannot be used as evidence of anything. It just isn't enough data. I thought we would win these games, I thought they would be game for Eli. The only thing that happened was that Eli played better against Tampa than I thought he would. I did not expect a 155 QB rating.
I am still thinking we should move on and start a new QB next year. Let's see what happens next week. I will get this out there right now. A win against the Eagles will mean more than Tampa and San Francisco. It will still not be enough to change anyone's mind though. The Eagles are reeling right now. The Bears...If we beat the Eagles and the Bears I will be on board with starting Eli next year.
Much worse. He has been just disgusting towards some folks over the years. Really, this is making me LMAO because it's so hypocritical and most of you standing up for FMIC know damn well that he's been one of the most callous and mean spirited people around here. He's been one of the quickest to resort to insults and crossing the line.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
Much worse. He has been just disgusting towards some folks over the years. Really, this is making me LMAO because it's so hypocritical and most of you standing up for FMIC know damn well that he's been one of the most callous and mean spirited people around here. He's been one of the quickest to resort to insults and crossing the line.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
He can be a dick, but there's really nothing worse than telling someone you can't wait til the day their handle says RIP in it.
If you are miserable when we lose and equally miserable when we win (and constant carping is extremely symptomatic, if not diagnostic), then the only conclusion that can be drawn is that you are a miserable person.
Much worse. He has been just disgusting towards some folks over the years. Really, this is making me LMAO because it's so hypocritical and most of you standing up for FMIC know damn well that he's been one of the most callous and mean spirited people around here. He's been one of the quickest to resort to insults and crossing the line.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
It's really true. There is no single poster who adds more the lack of civility here than FMIC. Probably close to 50% of his posts violates the terms of service here, but he's one of the cool kids so he can get away with whatever.
it's time for the string of morons who Fatman cyber-cuffed in the past to all line up and whine.
What a special time of year...
Festivus time for the trolls.
FMiC use to rip me to shreds all the time. Then I learned I deserved it. I say stupid shit from time to time.... but not nearly as bad as the trolls here.
when you start providing self-reflection posts for the rest of us to read. Are you all lying down on a couch with your shrink when you type these as part of therapy?
And by the way, at this point in your lives, using the word "troll" to describe another poster is akin in my book to insulting somebody with a mother-joke. So think about losing that from your inherently deep vocabulary...
it's time for the string of morons who Fatman cyber-cuffed in the past to all line up and whine.
You really do love to just grab your ankles in these situations.
What a special time of year...
Festivus time for the trolls.
FMiC use to rip me to shreds all the time. Then I learned I deserved it. I say stupid shit from time to time.... but not nearly as bad as the trolls here.
I can see Eli putting up about 11 more TDs and about 5 more INTs to go with 1300 yards more passing.
So I will go with
4250 yards
24 TDs
11 INTs
Nothing great or astounding. But people pay laugh at this... in 6 years when Eli is up for the HOF.... people will consider it a pretty good year.
In six years, QBs will continue to amass numbers that make seasons like this look pedestrian, just like this era of QBs is making their predecessors' numbers look pedestrian. It's fairly unlikely that it will be considered "pretty good" especially with the W/L record that's going to accompany it.
RUN THE TABLE!!!
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
concerned this thing ends up 5-11 for nyg and they end up in no mans land in draft.
Eli is not shutting up critics until he does more of this - the first half of the season counts too-and the problem is the critics are right that they have to move on except if NY makes playoffs (8-8 may win east this year).
but yes nice to see the wins and the good game from him.
He can still play folks. Get over it.
concerned this thing ends up 5-11 for nyg and they end up in no mans land in draft.
Eli is not shutting up critics until he does more of this - the first half of the season counts too-and the problem is the critics are right that they have to move on except if NY makes playoffs (8-8 may win east this year).
but yes nice to see the wins and the good game from him.
He actually had a decent 1st half considering no protection and no running game...but don't worry I won't let a false narrative get in the way of a good story Hassan!!!
It seemed every read was spot on, throws were on the money and checks were pretty much all you could want. No doubt the running game helped but he did hit that long one early to OBJ to set the tone and keep Tampa's D honest IMO.
Winning is awesome, but man if you think this indicates something meaningful that's a lot of faith.
I’m happy he played a very good game. Let’s see it continue and maybe we have something.
Who'd have thought?
It's the opposite though. This thread = result of reverse
Solder still had a couple totally unbelievable misses but the line held strong today for Eli.
I don’t believe in Eli as our QB next season but I’m happy to see him do well today. Let’s take each game as it comes and take a win when we get one.
Don’t piss in the corn flakes just to be that guy. They “could” have run the ball on a lot of teams this season but couldn’t. How’d they look against the stupid skins? Or falcons?
They are playing better. Much better. It’s ok to admit that.
3 win tampa settles it.
That's always been the case. He wasn't winning earlier this year because we couldn't block for him and Saquon was getting tackled 5 years in the backfield every play.
Jamon Brown seems to have been a legit addition. The line has looked completely different since he was inserted in the lineup.
But, the same people who are saying this is the second coming of Eli are a lot of the same people who forget how good the 49ers 3rd stringer looked against a pathetic Raiders D. We just played the worst defense in the NFL. Next week is the test.
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is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
Actually their top 4 players in secondary are now out. Starting street free agents. Eli has a shot to go on a run here
that would be premised on idea o is clicking and keeping team together means we see the offense we expected this year coming to fruition.
Dep, I am certainly not going to say anything bad about him after today, but I think the consensus around those that want to move on from him is that he is not capable of being consistently this good to get the Giants to a position where they can be contenders. He is also really old in football years.
The more games he has like this against the likes of TB and SF, the more Mara is going to think we just need a couple tweaks around him. I only watched pieces of the game, but from what I saw he was very good today. I still don't think he is the solution moving forward.
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is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
Uh, Eli won super bowl MVP with the corpse of David Diehl at left tackle and the worst running game in the league.
If you cannot see the difference Brown is making, then you don't want to see it.
Yes two crappy teams, but he is still opening holes and keeping the pocket from collapsing.
Tiny improvements make a huge difference.
Posts like this are exactly the reason I have been so critical. Hope you are thrilled that we are a whopping 3-7.
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What's more likely, the difference was Jamon Brown or playing the 9ers and the Bucs?
If you cannot see the difference Brown is making, then you don't want to see it.
Yes two crappy teams, but he is still opening holes and keeping the pocket from collapsing.
Tiny improvements make a huge difference.
I think it's clear as day Brown is better than Omameh, who was and is a fringe NFL player and one of the truly bad decisions this team has made in the last few years.
Is Jamon Brown the difference between getting routinely brutalized upfront in the first 8 weeks and having success the last 2 weeks?
I suspect it's much more about the opponents than a waiver wire player.
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Eat that you cry baby suckers.
Posts like this are exactly the reason I have been so critical. Hope you are thrilled that we are a whopping 3-7.
So you purposely rip Eli because posters say something on a website.
Wow.
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is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
Dat 32nd ranked run offense.
Kind of worked out that way today. He looked very good.
Specials played well..running game...great game...any of you on some of these threads who are negative today are nuts IMO..
Giants D let up maybe some up by 17 in the 3rd, but that is the best game they have played in a few years at least...4 pics as well.
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is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
How much is Rodgers winning now? All I hear is excuses why he isn’t winning when he’s the highest paid player in the league.
Easy to criticize from your keyboard but the blame goes to all facets of this team. Not one single player. So keep being critical of our QB but he doesn’t deserve it today for sure.
I would just like to say, +1 :D
Easy to criticize from your keyboard but the blame goes to all facets of this team. Not one single player. So keep being critical of our QB but he doesn’t deserve it today for sure.
No, he doesn't deserve criticism for his performance today. But you are dancing around like the performance means something in the grand scheme of things. We are 3-7, coming off a 3-13 year. Eli is 38 years old in January. Maybe you want to see him play for this team as long as possible, regardless of the results. We are a bad team that just beat 2 other bad teams in back to back weeks.
I am happy for him today, but it is in the best interest of this organization to move on from Eli ASAP. For this team to consistently reach its full potential, it requires a new man under center. You don't have to be happy about it, but you will buy in when this team actually starts consistently winning games and becomes relevant in the playoff conversation.
micky : 6:45 pm : link : reply
Eli's coming !!!
Here's that word again, asswipe - ponderous
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In comment 14182369 widmerseyebrow said:
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is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
How much is Rodgers winning now? All I hear is excuses why he isn’t winning when he’s the highest paid player in the league.
If you’re watching Packers games and coming away with the idea that Rodgers is the reason that team has lost some games you should really consider finding another hobby because football isn’t for you. He’s literally the only reason they are even competitive
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is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
Rogers is trully phenomenol and god like if he can win with Robert Newhouse at LT because Robert Newhouse was a Fullback for the Cowboys in the 1970s and I think he may be dead.
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In comment 14182390 mfsd said:
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In comment 14182369 widmerseyebrow said:
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is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
How much is Rodgers winning now? All I hear is excuses why he isn’t winning when he’s the highest paid player in the league.
If you’re watching Packers games and coming away with the idea that Rodgers is the reason that team has lost some games you should really consider finding another hobby because football isn’t for you. He’s literally the only reason they are even competitive
No, I’m simply pointing out the hypocrisy. All I’ve heard is Eli is paid to elevate those around him, yet the highest paid player in the league is sitting last in his division and all I hear is excuses.
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Eli's Coming
micky : 6:45 pm : link : reply
Eli's coming !!!
Here's that word again, asswipe - ponderous
Boy you are one miserable fuck..lol..lol ..lol
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If you need more proof that there are actually supposed giants fans who root against Eli, I present to you one miserable fuck:
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Eli's Coming
micky : 6:45 pm : link : reply
Eli's coming !!!
Here's that word again, asswipe - ponderous
Boy you are one miserable fuck..lol..lol ..lol
Though i laugh hard at you
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If you need more proof that there are actually supposed giants fans who root against Eli, I present to you one miserable fuck:
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Eli's Coming
micky : 6:45 pm : link : reply
Eli's coming !!!
Here's that word again, asswipe - ponderous
Boy you are one miserable fuck..lol..lol ..lol
Though i laugh hard at you
Though ill laugh harder when your handle becomes FRIP..hahaha
concerned this thing ends up 5-11 for nyg and they end up in no mans land in draft.
Eli is not shutting up critics until he does more of this - the first half of the season counts too-and the problem is the critics are right that they have to move on except if NY makes playoffs (8-8 may win east this year).read the post. Shut them up for one week
but yes nice to see the wins and the good game from him.
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is what good offenses do. Not saying we're good yet, but I'm not sure what an "actual" good offense would have done to Tampa instead.
Don’t change the fact all those saying Eli was the problem were full of shit
Eli was never the problem.....he just isn't the solution. Guys like Doug Williams and Eli Manning can be super bowl mvps with a good running game and good protection. Guys line Aaron Rogers can win super bowl mvps with Robert Newhouse at left tackle.
Who the hell dropped that one incompletion?
Who the hell dropped that one incompletion?
Eli threw it on the wrong shoulder.
Who the hell dropped that one incompletion?
Barkley missed it. It was a combo of things:
1. Underthrown
2. Barkley picked it up late and couldn't adjust
His 6 INTs and 1.6% INT% are the best of his career. Previous low was a 2.1% INT% back in 2008 (only threw it 479 times that season!).
His passer rating now sits at 96.6 which is currently the best mark of his career.
His 7.7 ay/a is tied for the 2nd best mark of his career. The 8.1 ay/a in 2011 was the only time he exceeded it.
And on the negative side, he's set to obliterate his "record" for sacks. He's currently been sacked 36 times and the most he's been sacked in a single season is/was 39 back in 2013. He's getting sacked on 9% of his drop backs (~1 in 10) which blows away all previous seasons and his almost double his career mark.
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Oline created some nice holes, Saquon just continually showing what a weapon he can be, and Eli on target all day to a bunch of different receivers. Defense looked pretty bad but at least got some TOs to stop drives.
Who the hell dropped that one incompletion?
Eli threw it on the wrong shoulder.
Thx. Now I recall. Yeah agree he threw it on the wrong side. SB still almost made the circus catch. Stinkin’ rookie...
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as a fan.
concerned this thing ends up 5-11 for nyg and they end up in no mans land in draft.
Eli is not shutting up critics until he does more of this - the first half of the season counts too-and the problem is the critics are right that they have to move on except if NY makes playoffs (8-8 may win east this year).
but yes nice to see the wins and the good game from him.
He actually had a decent 1st half considering no protection and no running game...but don't worry I won't let a false narrative get in the way of a good story Hassan!!!
Hahahaha if anyone would know a false narrative, it's you.
Give him reasonable protection and of course a running game he’ll be good for several more seasons, assuming he wants to continue, imo
Many were saying his body was done, but for me, it was always about the mental. Give him a consistently OK OL, and he's a QB you can win with. Not his fault the OL played like shit the first half the year.
That said, there's no guarantee this OL will continue to play well, or that next year will see any improvement. the shell shock can come back in an instant.
His 6 INTs and 1.6% INT% are the best of his career. Previous low was a 2.1% INT% back in 2008 (only threw it 479 times that season!).
His passer rating now sits at 96.6 which is currently the best mark of his career.
His 7.7 ay/a is tied for the 2nd best mark of his career. The 8.1 ay/a in 2011 was the only time he exceeded it.
And on the negative side, he's set to obliterate his "record" for sacks. He's currently been sacked 36 times and the most he's been sacked in a single season is/was 39 back in 2013. He's getting sacked on 9% of his drop backs (~1 in 10) which blows away all previous seasons and his almost double his career mark.
It is popular to mock DG and his derision of analytics, but what will happen when DG actually uses the analytics that you cite above to extend Eli? The sacks just reinforce the acknowledgement by DG that the OL must be fixed. He identified that as his no. 1 priority. Dedicating another off-season of OL centric moves (FA/draft) will shore up what Reese was never able to do in the last half a decade.
Also note that Eli's TD% is one of the lower #s of his career, though that's partly (largely?) due to the poor RZ play which can be attributable to the poor OL (no running game and/or pass protection). Though Eli's missed a couple easy ones to Beckham too.
Yesterday's only incompletion might be the best example of this as most expected a handoff or short throw to Beckham. Instead, he calls a wheel route to Barkley, which should've worked for 20+ yards.
I dont understand QBR whatsoever cause it makes little sense.
I saw Eli's QBR yesterday was 78 or 79 with only 1 incompletion which went off fingertips. HIS YPA was insane at 12.8.
But since he didnt throw for massive yards (he could have if we needed too) or a great number of TDs (he could have but the run game was working yesterday) he gets penalized for it. He played almost a perfect game. Thats why some of these advanced stats have little validity to me. Just like Eli's high QB ratings.... some of that high grade came in garbage time.
Are you suggesting death? I know you come across as a moron continually, but it is pretty harsh for somebody who is going through a serious health crisis like yourself to suggest that another poster die.
But alas, I'm the miserable fuck.
This place never fails to astound.
His comp% is 6th and his INT% is tied for 5th. Passer rating and (arguably) the most important stat ay/a are middle of the pack.
Sack% is 7th worst with most of the guys behind him "mobile" QBs that generally try and hold it longer to make plays. If he wasn't leading the league in sacks, he's probably top 10 in AY/A.
ESPN's "QBR" is as useful as PFF's ratings.
Though ill laugh harder when your handle becomes FRIP..hahaha
How is this shit even allowed in BBI. Laughing at death? Jesus Christ.
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Though ill laugh harder when your handle becomes FRIP..hahaha
How is this shit even allowed in BBI. Laughing at death? Jesus Christ.
There is a lot of crap that is selectively moderated. I reported a post a year ago by Dragon. The post still sits in the archives on BBI's servers. The Moderator's response was, "I can see how you would be upset by the comment.". The comment wasn't even directed at me. It was a disgusting/hateful comment wishing that Eli would break his back. But it still stands in testament to what is tolerated on BBI.
I don't take offense, just wonder what is going through the mind of that fucking tool.
You fail to mention a pretty important stat: Eli's terrible td pct. Id wish for the old Eli who threw picks but scored a lot. We have the inverse now.
I am glad he has played well this week and pretty good last week. Lets consider the quality of opponent and if it continues against better teams then we have something.
Team is still 3-7, and he still gets paid a lot. I think the OP and some of the posters here are too easily impressed......he should at the very least be having some good games in particular against dregs like SF and TB.
I can enjoy the wins and recognize the OP is way off in his post as well. I'm willing to see if this trend continues; quite frankly the idea of having Eli be a game manager with Barkley being the focus and throwing around 20-25 times a game is probably the best way to use him at this point which seems like the gameplan.
You fail to mention a pretty important stat: Eli's terrible td pct. Id wish for the old Eli who threw picks but scored a lot. We have the inverse now.
I am glad he has played well this week and pretty good last week. Lets consider the quality of opponent and if it continues against better teams then we have something.
Team is still 3-7, and he still gets paid a lot. I think the OP and some of the posters here are too easily impressed......he should at the very least be having some good games in particular against dregs like SF and TB.
I did mention his TD% in a follow-up post. It wasn't highlighted in the first because it wasn't close to a career best/worst.
And when you start adding "context" to statistics, they are no longer statistics. Pure stats do not and should not include subjective measures and/or opinions. It's why some of PFFs grades (they're not stats) are so mind boggling (and I think PFF's grades are generally interesting).
I don't take offense, just wonder what is going through the mind of that fucking tool.
Again..youre a miserable ...in your words...fuckstick...lol
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ironic thing about micky wishing death on anyone is that he's in the midst of his own serious health crisis.
I don't take offense, just wonder what is going through the mind of that fucking tool.
Again..youre a miserable ...in your words...fuckstick...lol
There is absolutely nothing funny about your posts. Seriously, no one is laughing.
His ratings inflation is consistent with overall qb ratings going up significantly in past decade.
So I will go with
4250 yards
24 TDs
11 INTs
Nothing great or astounding. But people pay laugh at this... in 6 years when Eli is up for the HOF.... people will consider it a pretty good year.
His ratings inflation is consistent with overall qb ratings going up significantly in past decade.
Applying that type of context to stats is different than ESPN's QBR garbage which tries to adjust individual plays based on context (IIRC).
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
So I will go with
4250 yards
24 TDs
11 INTs
Nothing great or astounding. But people pay laugh at this... in 6 years when Eli is up for the HOF.... people will consider it a pretty good year.
Speaking of the HOF, Eli now needs just 1 more win to guarantee a (regular season) career record of .500 or better assuming he doesn't play beyond 2018.
It's impossible. Fat people are always jolly.
I've always got your back, Chubby.
I can enjoy the wins and recognize the OP is way off in his post as well. I'm willing to see if this trend continues; quite frankly the idea of having Eli be a game manager with Barkley being the focus and throwing around 20-25 times a game is probably the best way to use him at this point which seems like the gameplan.
Hassan, I get it. I'm just sick of having nothing to root for and I'm all in on the winning. Draft position be darned. We landed OBJ with the 12th pick, I have faith we can get someone good wherever we pick. I want wins. Win baby win!!!
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
If you cant see it ..then i dont know what to tell you. Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
You dont know me to judge to personally judge me as what kind of fan..as i dont know you neither.
So maybe you can get away with personal attacks on others..that shit dont fly with me..and ill give it back and then some..i dont care.
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how the fuck am I miserable??
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
If you cant see it ..then i dont know what to tell you. Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
You dont know me to judge to personally judge me as what kind of fan..as i dont know you neither.
So maybe you can get away with personal attacks on others..that shit dont fly with me..and ill give it back and then some..i dont care.
Actually we can judge you as you wanting someone to die. Usually shows a true test of character.
If sarcasm takes the form of wishing death from a poster who can barely type a legible sentence, then yes, I don't get sarcasm.
as for being ALWAYS insulting - I disagree with a fair number of posts here without being nasty. To complete fools? I sure am. I'm surprised they even can figure that out....
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Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
If sarcasm takes the form of wishing death from a poster who can barely type a legible sentence, then yes, I don't get sarcasm.
as for being ALWAYS insulting - I disagree with a fair number of posts here without being nasty. To complete fools? I sure am. I'm surprised they even can figure that out....
Where did i wish death? Really Ignorant Pussy
I am still thinking we should move on and start a new QB next year. Let's see what happens next week. I will get this out there right now. A win against the Eagles will mean more than Tampa and San Francisco. It will still not be enough to change anyone's mind though. The Eagles are reeling right now. The Bears...If we beat the Eagles and the Bears I will be on board with starting Eli next year.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
He can be a dick, but there's really nothing worse than telling someone you can't wait til the day their handle says RIP in it.
The latitude he gets makes wonder if he's officially deployed by BBI ownership to clean this place up... ;)
The latitude he gets makes wonder if he's officially deployed by BBI ownership to clean this place up... ;)
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is an interesting read since I've been back. He really relishes this BBI bouncer/ombudsman role.
The latitude he gets makes wonder if he's officially deployed by BBI ownership to clean this place up... ;)
his BBI pseudonym is fat man and to quote fat bastard “I eat because I’m unhappy and I’m unhappy cause I eat. It’s a vicious cycle”.
troll alert. troll alert.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
It's really true. There is no single poster who adds more the lack of civility here than FMIC. Probably close to 50% of his posts violates the terms of service here, but he's one of the cool kids so he can get away with whatever.
What a special time of year...
What a special time of year...
Festivus time for the trolls.
FMiC use to rip me to shreds all the time. Then I learned I deserved it. I say stupid shit from time to time.... but not nearly as bad as the trolls here.
And by the way, at this point in your lives, using the word "troll" to describe another poster is akin in my book to insulting somebody with a mother-joke. So think about losing that from your inherently deep vocabulary...
just because my post followed yours, didn't mean you were the focus of it all. Sorry...
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it's time for the string of morons who Fatman cyber-cuffed in the past to all line up and whine.
You really do love to just grab your ankles in these situations.
What a special time of year...
Festivus time for the trolls.
FMiC use to rip me to shreds all the time. Then I learned I deserved it. I say stupid shit from time to time.... but not nearly as bad as the trolls here.
So I will go with
4250 yards
24 TDs
11 INTs
Nothing great or astounding. But people pay laugh at this... in 6 years when Eli is up for the HOF.... people will consider it a pretty good year.
In six years, QBs will continue to amass numbers that make seasons like this look pedestrian, just like this era of QBs is making their predecessors' numbers look pedestrian. It's fairly unlikely that it will be considered "pretty good" especially with the W/L record that's going to accompany it.