For the second week in a row. Say what you want, but when you commit to the run and let Barkley lead the offense, Eli still looks like a QB you can win with. Haters you can hate elsewhere this week. 17/18 231 yards and 2 TDs
many here enjoy the wins. But the tone of the OP does two things 1)imply what we saw from #10 was just a mirage earlier in the season wholly blamed on the line and 2)that two data points against terrible teams is proof positive Eli can be a consistent winning qb.
I can enjoy the wins and recognize the OP is way off in his post as well. I'm willing to see if this trend continues; quite frankly the idea of having Eli be a game manager with Barkley being the focus and throwing around 20-25 times a game is probably the best way to use him at this point which seems like the gameplan.
ESPN QBR while flawed, at least contextualizes when you are compiling stats. His stat line was classic lying with statistics. Is this his best season really?
You fail to mention a pretty important stat: Eli's terrible td pct. Id wish for the old Eli who threw picks but scored a lot. We have the inverse now.
I am glad he has played well this week and pretty good last week. Lets consider the quality of opponent and if it continues against better teams then we have something.
Team is still 3-7, and he still gets paid a lot. I think the OP and some of the posters here are too easily impressed......he should at the very least be having some good games in particular against dregs like SF and TB.
I did mention his TD% in a follow-up post. It wasn't highlighted in the first because it wasn't close to a career best/worst.
And when you start adding "context" to statistics, they are no longer statistics. Pure stats do not and should not include subjective measures and/or opinions. It's why some of PFFs grades (they're not stats) are so mind boggling (and I think PFF's grades are generally interesting).
stats do have to be contextualized, at least relative to peers and timeframes. While this is Eli's highest ranking in overall pure rating, he has had an overall league rank higher in the past relative to his peers. 30 TDs today does not mean the same thing as the 70s as well.
His ratings inflation is consistent with overall qb ratings going up significantly in past decade.
stats do have to be contextualized, at least relative to peers and timeframes. While this is Eli's highest ranking in overall pure rating, he has had an overall league rank higher in the past relative to his peers. 30 TDs today does not mean the same thing as the 70s as well.
His ratings inflation is consistent with overall qb ratings going up significantly in past decade.
Applying that type of context to stats is different than ESPN's QBR garbage which tries to adjust individual plays based on context (IIRC).
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
I can see Eli putting up about 11 more TDs and about 5 more INTs to go with 1300 yards more passing.
So I will go with
4250 yards
24 TDs
11 INTs
Nothing great or astounding. But people pay laugh at this... in 6 years when Eli is up for the HOF.... people will consider it a pretty good year.
Speaking of the HOF, Eli now needs just 1 more win to guarantee a (regular season) career record of .500 or better assuming he doesn't play beyond 2018.
many here enjoy the wins. But the tone of the OP does two things 1)imply what we saw from #10 was just a mirage earlier in the season wholly blamed on the line and 2)that two data points against terrible teams is proof positive Eli can be a consistent winning qb.
I can enjoy the wins and recognize the OP is way off in his post as well. I'm willing to see if this trend continues; quite frankly the idea of having Eli be a game manager with Barkley being the focus and throwing around 20-25 times a game is probably the best way to use him at this point which seems like the gameplan.
Hassan, I get it. I'm just sick of having nothing to root for and I'm all in on the winning. Draft position be darned. We landed OBJ with the 12th pick, I have faith we can get someone good wherever we pick. I want wins. Win baby win!!!
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
If you cant see it ..then i dont know what to tell you. Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
You dont know me to judge to personally judge me as what kind of fan..as i dont know you neither.
So maybe you can get away with personal attacks on others..that shit dont fly with me..and ill give it back and then some..i dont care.
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
If you cant see it ..then i dont know what to tell you. Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
You dont know me to judge to personally judge me as what kind of fan..as i dont know you neither.
So maybe you can get away with personal attacks on others..that shit dont fly with me..and ill give it back and then some..i dont care.
Actually we can judge you as you wanting someone to die. Usually shows a true test of character.
Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
If sarcasm takes the form of wishing death from a poster who can barely type a legible sentence, then yes, I don't get sarcasm.
as for being ALWAYS insulting - I disagree with a fair number of posts here without being nasty. To complete fools? I sure am. I'm surprised they even can figure that out....
Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
If sarcasm takes the form of wishing death from a poster who can barely type a legible sentence, then yes, I don't get sarcasm.
as for being ALWAYS insulting - I disagree with a fair number of posts here without being nasty. To complete fools? I sure am. I'm surprised they even can figure that out....
WTF? We are 6-20. The last 2 wins against 2 of the worst cannot be used as evidence of anything. It just isn't enough data. I thought we would win these games, I thought they would be game for Eli. The only thing that happened was that Eli played better against Tampa than I thought he would. I did not expect a 155 QB rating.
I am still thinking we should move on and start a new QB next year. Let's see what happens next week. I will get this out there right now. A win against the Eagles will mean more than Tampa and San Francisco. It will still not be enough to change anyone's mind though. The Eagles are reeling right now. The Bears...If we beat the Eagles and the Bears I will be on board with starting Eli next year.
Much worse. He has been just disgusting towards some folks over the years. Really, this is making me LMAO because it's so hypocritical and most of you standing up for FMIC know damn well that he's been one of the most callous and mean spirited people around here. He's been one of the quickest to resort to insults and crossing the line.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
Much worse. He has been just disgusting towards some folks over the years. Really, this is making me LMAO because it's so hypocritical and most of you standing up for FMIC know damn well that he's been one of the most callous and mean spirited people around here. He's been one of the quickest to resort to insults and crossing the line.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
He can be a dick, but there's really nothing worse than telling someone you can't wait til the day their handle says RIP in it.
If you are miserable when we lose and equally miserable when we win (and constant carping is extremely symptomatic, if not diagnostic), then the only conclusion that can be drawn is that you are a miserable person.
Much worse. He has been just disgusting towards some folks over the years. Really, this is making me LMAO because it's so hypocritical and most of you standing up for FMIC know damn well that he's been one of the most callous and mean spirited people around here. He's been one of the quickest to resort to insults and crossing the line.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
It's really true. There is no single poster who adds more the lack of civility here than FMIC. Probably close to 50% of his posts violates the terms of service here, but he's one of the cool kids so he can get away with whatever.
it's time for the string of morons who Fatman cyber-cuffed in the past to all line up and whine.
What a special time of year...
Festivus time for the trolls.
FMiC use to rip me to shreds all the time. Then I learned I deserved it. I say stupid shit from time to time.... but not nearly as bad as the trolls here.
when you start providing self-reflection posts for the rest of us to read. Are you all lying down on a couch with your shrink when you type these as part of therapy?
And by the way, at this point in your lives, using the word "troll" to describe another poster is akin in my book to insulting somebody with a mother-joke. So think about losing that from your inherently deep vocabulary...
it's time for the string of morons who Fatman cyber-cuffed in the past to all line up and whine.
You really do love to just grab your ankles in these situations.
What a special time of year...
Festivus time for the trolls.
FMiC use to rip me to shreds all the time. Then I learned I deserved it. I say stupid shit from time to time.... but not nearly as bad as the trolls here.
I can see Eli putting up about 11 more TDs and about 5 more INTs to go with 1300 yards more passing.
So I will go with
4250 yards
24 TDs
11 INTs
Nothing great or astounding. But people pay laugh at this... in 6 years when Eli is up for the HOF.... people will consider it a pretty good year.
In six years, QBs will continue to amass numbers that make seasons like this look pedestrian, just like this era of QBs is making their predecessors' numbers look pedestrian. It's fairly unlikely that it will be considered "pretty good" especially with the W/L record that's going to accompany it.
I can enjoy the wins and recognize the OP is way off in his post as well. I'm willing to see if this trend continues; quite frankly the idea of having Eli be a game manager with Barkley being the focus and throwing around 20-25 times a game is probably the best way to use him at this point which seems like the gameplan.
You fail to mention a pretty important stat: Eli's terrible td pct. Id wish for the old Eli who threw picks but scored a lot. We have the inverse now.
I am glad he has played well this week and pretty good last week. Lets consider the quality of opponent and if it continues against better teams then we have something.
Team is still 3-7, and he still gets paid a lot. I think the OP and some of the posters here are too easily impressed......he should at the very least be having some good games in particular against dregs like SF and TB.
I did mention his TD% in a follow-up post. It wasn't highlighted in the first because it wasn't close to a career best/worst.
And when you start adding "context" to statistics, they are no longer statistics. Pure stats do not and should not include subjective measures and/or opinions. It's why some of PFFs grades (they're not stats) are so mind boggling (and I think PFF's grades are generally interesting).
I don't take offense, just wonder what is going through the mind of that fucking tool.
Again..youre a miserable ...in your words...fuckstick...lol
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ironic thing about micky wishing death on anyone is that he's in the midst of his own serious health crisis.
I don't take offense, just wonder what is going through the mind of that fucking tool.
Again..youre a miserable ...in your words...fuckstick...lol
There is absolutely nothing funny about your posts. Seriously, no one is laughing.
His ratings inflation is consistent with overall qb ratings going up significantly in past decade.
So I will go with
4250 yards
24 TDs
11 INTs
Nothing great or astounding. But people pay laugh at this... in 6 years when Eli is up for the HOF.... people will consider it a pretty good year.
His ratings inflation is consistent with overall qb ratings going up significantly in past decade.
Applying that type of context to stats is different than ESPN's QBR garbage which tries to adjust individual plays based on context (IIRC).
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
So I will go with
4250 yards
24 TDs
11 INTs
Nothing great or astounding. But people pay laugh at this... in 6 years when Eli is up for the HOF.... people will consider it a pretty good year.
Speaking of the HOF, Eli now needs just 1 more win to guarantee a (regular season) career record of .500 or better assuming he doesn't play beyond 2018.
It's impossible. Fat people are always jolly.
I've always got your back, Chubby.
I can enjoy the wins and recognize the OP is way off in his post as well. I'm willing to see if this trend continues; quite frankly the idea of having Eli be a game manager with Barkley being the focus and throwing around 20-25 times a game is probably the best way to use him at this point which seems like the gameplan.
Hassan, I get it. I'm just sick of having nothing to root for and I'm all in on the winning. Draft position be darned. We landed OBJ with the 12th pick, I have faith we can get someone good wherever we pick. I want wins. Win baby win!!!
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
If you cant see it ..then i dont know what to tell you. Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
You dont know me to judge to personally judge me as what kind of fan..as i dont know you neither.
So maybe you can get away with personal attacks on others..that shit dont fly with me..and ill give it back and then some..i dont care.
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how the fuck am I miserable??
Did I wish death on somebody? Did I trash Eli after his lone completion yesterday? Did I throw a wet blanket on the win? Nope. After spending almost two weeks in Germany, my Son and I spent part of the day watching the Giants, cheering for them and bonding.
Because I think you are a moron says nothing to what my temperment is.
Your definition of miserable is as fucked up as your takes on pretty much any subject.
If you cant see it ..then i dont know what to tell you. Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
You dont know me to judge to personally judge me as what kind of fan..as i dont know you neither.
So maybe you can get away with personal attacks on others..that shit dont fly with me..and ill give it back and then some..i dont care.
Actually we can judge you as you wanting someone to die. Usually shows a true test of character.
If sarcasm takes the form of wishing death from a poster who can barely type a legible sentence, then yes, I don't get sarcasm.
as for being ALWAYS insulting - I disagree with a fair number of posts here without being nasty. To complete fools? I sure am. I'm surprised they even can figure that out....
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Your post are ALWAYS insulting, etc etc if ones opinion is NOT of yours. You cant comprehend the difference between sarcasm.. etc.
If sarcasm takes the form of wishing death from a poster who can barely type a legible sentence, then yes, I don't get sarcasm.
as for being ALWAYS insulting - I disagree with a fair number of posts here without being nasty. To complete fools? I sure am. I'm surprised they even can figure that out....
Where did i wish death? Really Ignorant Pussy
I am still thinking we should move on and start a new QB next year. Let's see what happens next week. I will get this out there right now. A win against the Eagles will mean more than Tampa and San Francisco. It will still not be enough to change anyone's mind though. The Eagles are reeling right now. The Bears...If we beat the Eagles and the Bears I will be on board with starting Eli next year.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
He can be a dick, but there's really nothing worse than telling someone you can't wait til the day their handle says RIP in it.
The latitude he gets makes wonder if he's officially deployed by BBI ownership to clean this place up... ;)
The latitude he gets makes wonder if he's officially deployed by BBI ownership to clean this place up... ;)
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is an interesting read since I've been back. He really relishes this BBI bouncer/ombudsman role.
The latitude he gets makes wonder if he's officially deployed by BBI ownership to clean this place up... ;)
his BBI pseudonym is fat man and to quote fat bastard “I eat because I’m unhappy and I’m unhappy cause I eat. It’s a vicious cycle”.
troll alert. troll alert.
This place needs to be more fair overall and quit propping up the homers who ruin the site.
It's really true. There is no single poster who adds more the lack of civility here than FMIC. Probably close to 50% of his posts violates the terms of service here, but he's one of the cool kids so he can get away with whatever.
What a special time of year...
What a special time of year...
Festivus time for the trolls.
FMiC use to rip me to shreds all the time. Then I learned I deserved it. I say stupid shit from time to time.... but not nearly as bad as the trolls here.
And by the way, at this point in your lives, using the word "troll" to describe another poster is akin in my book to insulting somebody with a mother-joke. So think about losing that from your inherently deep vocabulary...
just because my post followed yours, didn't mean you were the focus of it all. Sorry...
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it's time for the string of morons who Fatman cyber-cuffed in the past to all line up and whine.
You really do love to just grab your ankles in these situations.
What a special time of year...
Festivus time for the trolls.
FMiC use to rip me to shreds all the time. Then I learned I deserved it. I say stupid shit from time to time.... but not nearly as bad as the trolls here.
So I will go with
4250 yards
24 TDs
11 INTs
Nothing great or astounding. But people pay laugh at this... in 6 years when Eli is up for the HOF.... people will consider it a pretty good year.
In six years, QBs will continue to amass numbers that make seasons like this look pedestrian, just like this era of QBs is making their predecessors' numbers look pedestrian. It's fairly unlikely that it will be considered "pretty good" especially with the W/L record that's going to accompany it.