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NFT: Islanders at Rangers: 7 PM on MSG+

Anakim : 11/21/2018 12:22 pm
Fuck you dudes (again) for having me create this thread.


The Islanders have won eight straight against the Rangers since Dec. 6, 2016 and they're 12-1-0 against the Rangers since Dec. 2, 2015.


Soooooo I think it's about time the Rangers win one! Get it for us, Georgiev! And let Chytil's streak continue.
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What did I just say?  
ChaChing : 12/2/2018 8:52 pm : link
Damn. 41-18 SOGs
Apparently  
ChaChing : 12/2/2018 8:58 pm : link
no one can stop that same Zibby shot...wow

Or Laine ever
ugh... missing Zucc hurts on the shootouts  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 8:59 pm : link
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Rangers regressing to the mean now  
NYerInMA : 12/2/2018 9:18 pm : link
after that 9-1-1 run. I think that was just a tease, unfortunately.
RE: Rangers regressing to the mean now  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 9:21 pm : link
In comment 14202913 NYerInMA said:
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after that 9-1-1 run. I think that was just a tease, unfortunately.


Nah. They are a fun group to watch and cheer for regardless. I love their work ethic. Nobody thought (thinks) the Rangers are contending for the cup this year. This year is all about getting the 1st pick in the draft while having fun watching them compete.
Other than us having a 3-0 lead  
Rob in Rockaway : 12/2/2018 9:22 pm : link
nothing that happened tonight really surprised me, but I'm still pissed off anyway.
RE: RE: Rangers regressing to the mean now  
MetsAreBack : 12/2/2018 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14202924 baadbill said:
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In comment 14202913 NYerInMA said:


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after that 9-1-1 run. I think that was just a tease, unfortunately.



Nah. They are a fun group to watch and cheer for regardless. I love their work ethic. Nobody thought (thinks) the Rangers are contending for the cup this year. This year is all about getting the 1st pick in the draft while having fun watching them compete.


How do you plan to do that while getting all these BS overtime points? We are going to end up with the 8th-10th pick in the draft ... again

Hopefully Staal is playing well enough to move his contract in February.

By the way Lundqvist never had mask issues prior to this past week. Never. (He also had skate blade issues last week). To insinuate that he's buying time or cheating is straight bullshit.
RE: Other than us having a 3-0 lead  
NYerInMA : 12/2/2018 9:36 pm : link
In comment 14202927 Rob in Rockaway said:
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nothing that happened tonight really surprised me, but I'm still pissed off anyway.


Yeah, that's true. I expected them to lose tonight anyway, but I got sucked in after they took a 3-0 lead. Oops.
There is now way you have been watching  
Rob in Rockaway : 12/2/2018 9:37 pm : link
it's a running joke in my house how often he loses his stick, and lately how often he pulls his own mask off.
RE: RE: RE: Rangers regressing to the mean now  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 9:40 pm : link
In comment 14202954 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 14202924 baadbill said:


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In comment 14202913 NYerInMA said:


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after that 9-1-1 run. I think that was just a tease, unfortunately.



Nah. They are a fun group to watch and cheer for regardless. I love their work ethic. Nobody thought (thinks) the Rangers are contending for the cup this year. This year is all about getting the 1st pick in the draft while having fun watching them compete.



How do you plan to do that while getting all these BS overtime points? We are going to end up with the 8th-10th pick in the draft ... again

Hopefully Staal is playing well enough to move his contract in February.

By the way Lundqvist never had mask issues prior to this past week. Never. (He also had skate blade issues last week). To insinuate that he's buying time or cheating is straight bullshit.


I'm not insinuating anything about Hank. I'm a fucking Rangers' fan and love watching Lundqvist. But don't be stupid and say he hasn't stopped play for a broken strap before this week because that is total crap.

As for how I plan to do that (get the 1st round pick), I have news for you... neither you nor I nor any fan have anything to do with whether they win or lose. Thus, I enjoy rooting for a hard working team while also wanting them to get the 1st round pick. At the end of the day, they will end up with whatever record they end up with, regardless of what I think or do (or what you think or what you do). And it's just stupid to think otherwise.
The other thing about this season that is enjoyable is watching  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 9:42 pm : link
these guys learn to play the way Quinn wants them to play. And that's a process that will carry over and grow year to year. I really love what Quinn's doing so far this year.
The stick and blade/mask issues are separate discussions  
MetsAreBack : 12/2/2018 9:56 pm : link
I agree he loses his stick a lot (and doesn't handle the puck well with it either). The other stuff never happened before this past week. He's not Jonathan Quick with that crap.

Baadbill - your we control nothing crap as fans so I'm the most optimistic bestest fan there ever was ... is tired
RE: The stick and blade/mask issues are separate discussions  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14203021 MetsAreBack said:
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I agree he loses his stick a lot (and doesn't handle the puck well with it either). The other stuff never happened before this past week. He's not Jonathan Quick with that crap.

Baadbill - your we control nothing crap as fans so I'm the most optimistic bestest fan there ever was ... is tired


Get lost with your "bestest fan there ever was" crap. I'm tired of hearing people like you moan and groan that the Giants or Rangers winning a game means the rest of us are "bad fans" and that some how because we get excited by a win, that it is "our fault" when they don't get the first pick in the draft. What a load of fucking bull crap that is.

It is stupid. It is magical thinking. And it is very tiresome.

I want the Giants to get the first pick in the 2019 draft. But you know what, I also enjoyed today's game. It was a fun game. And I enjoy how the Rangers play. And I want them to have the first pick in the draft.

And my enjoying the Giants today has zero to do with whether they won or lost. And has zero to do with how they draft. So stop with your stupidity already.
I am very aware that every win by the Rangers (or Giants)  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 10:20 pm : link
hurts their draft position. But, I also realize I can't control any of that. All I can control is how I react to what happens - and I chose to react in a way that makes me happiest (since reacting in a way that makes me unhappy doesn't seem like a very wise life philosophy).

So, I try to enjoy each game of the season as though the draft position doesn't matter (because I can't control it anyway). And, of course, if they happen to lose so many games they end up with the #1 or other great draft position, then I am happy as a pig in shit about that too.

It is like going on vacation to the beach and having it rain every day. You can either chose to stay inside and be miserable, or find a way to relax and have a good vacation anyway. I chose to enjoy my vacation even if it rains.

It is really all about being an adult.
Diarrhea of the mouth  
MetsAreBack : 12/2/2018 11:45 pm : link
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Rooting for losses in hockey is futile, IMO  
Mike in Long Beach : 12/3/2018 9:03 am : link
You can lose every game and the chances of landing Jack Hughes still rests at less than 25%. It's not worth the risk of establishing a defeatist culture. And yes, I think that is a very real thing.

In football, I get it a lot more. Last year's final 4 games was the first time I ever brought myself to root against the Giants for their own best interests. But while I get the notion a lot more in football, I too have issues actually bringing myself to do it. I was rooting for us yesterday.

And while I know this is idiotic, I sit here and say to myself that we're 2 games out of the wild card if Washington loses tomorrow. It's not happening. I know it. But having that math exist keeps me invested. So I cling to it. Winning yesterday is why I'll be watching for sure next week. And since I love sports and want to watch, I often root for the Giants even if it's not in their best interests.
Rangers have not won a road game in regulation this season  
baadbill : 12/8/2018 9:41 pm : link
... I knew they didn't have a good road record but I had no idea they haven't yet won in regulation... geez
Pretty damn good on the shootouts ... even without Zucc  
baadbill : 12/8/2018 9:56 pm : link
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Must be pretty awesome  
B in ALB : 12/8/2018 9:59 pm : link
scoring that goal in front of your pops.

Henrik made some HUGE saves despite giving up four goals. I think the D failed him more than anything.
Big game against the best team in the league right now  
baadbill : 12/10/2018 7:29 pm : link
A good test for the Rangers. I'm pumped for a good showing by this Rangers team, win or lose. C'mon boys. Don't get embarrassed.
Bad penalty by Krieder  
baadbill : 12/10/2018 8:11 pm : link
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Fedotenko  
B in ALB : 12/10/2018 8:58 pm : link
St Louis, Richards and Dan Boyle is my guess on the trivia.
Weaksauce  
RodneyHamp : 12/10/2018 8:59 pm : link
Hank
RE: Fedotenko  
baadbill : 12/10/2018 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14213736 B in ALB said:
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St Louis, Richards and Dan Boyle is my guess on the trivia.


I thought the Q was what current Rangers formerly played for Tampa (but I doubt I'm right, because I only saw it for a brief moment)... and besides I can only think of 3 current Rangers who belonged with Tampa:

Howden
Namestnikov
DeAngelo (why I used the word "belonged"... he was drafted by Tampa but not sure he ever played with them)
ugh  
baadbill : 12/10/2018 9:52 pm : link
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Better team than I thought they'd be  
MetsAreBack : 12/10/2018 9:54 pm : link
But just looked, we have fewest ROW in hockey through 30 games - just 9 - tied with Chicago for that mark (man how times have changed vs 5 years ago... LA is atrocious too)

A few of that 9 row is ot 3-on-3 too... this team is trying, and that's admirable .... but it's a generally terrible team
Good first period  
MetsAreBack : 12/14/2018 7:51 pm : link
One thing I don't quite get - when in the defensive zone and a defender breaks his stick ... at least in the 1st and 3rd periods... why don't they simply get another stick? If it's a Dman perhaps a forward gives them a stick and then opportunistically grabs himself another...

Rangers played basically 2 on 5 for 30 seconds because two sticks broke... got through it somehow ... but was odd to me that this is deemed better odds than taking 4 seconds to skate 25 feet to the bench to grab one
RE: Good first period  
baadbill : 12/14/2018 7:55 pm : link
In comment 14219032 MetsAreBack said:
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One thing I don't quite get - when in the defensive zone and a defender breaks his stick ... at least in the 1st and 3rd periods... why don't they simply get another stick? If it's a Dman perhaps a forward gives them a stick and then opportunistically grabs himself another...

Rangers played basically 2 on 5 for 30 seconds because two sticks broke... got through it somehow ... but was odd to me that this is deemed better odds than taking 4 seconds to skate 25 feet to the bench to grab one


I've never understood that ... the player without a stick always seems to act as though he's making a difference (and sometimes, but very rarely, he kicks a puck out of the zone), but imo 99.99% of the time the team would be better playing 5 on 3 for the 10 seconds it would take for him to get a new stick. But I must be wrong because I don't think I've ever seen that happen.
Wouldn't take anywhere close to 10 seconds  
MetsAreBack : 12/14/2018 8:04 pm : link
Unless it's Mike Rupp or something At least in 1st and 3rd periods when your bench is near. In the second period I could understand the hesitance
3 PPG ... holy crap ... lol  
baadbill : 12/14/2018 8:15 pm : link
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Fast hurt?  
baadbill : 12/14/2018 8:15 pm : link
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oh boy... 3-0 and now 3-3 ... another collapse with less than 3 mins  
baadbill : 12/14/2018 9:34 pm : link
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Ah, the obligatory late tying goal allowed  
Greg from LI : 12/14/2018 9:34 pm : link
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Bad goal given up by Hank  
MetsAreBack : 12/14/2018 9:36 pm : link
But hell of a player scored it. That's the type of talent sucking for a few years is worth it for.

Hayes hurt tonight too
Stepan ends it of course  
MetsAreBack : 12/14/2018 9:45 pm : link
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Wow, pretty exciting OT ...  
baadbill : 12/14/2018 9:46 pm : link
As an aside, Zucc is just an incredible passer...

Hope Hayes is hurt, not injured... ref went right over to him right away
Another blown 3-0 lead  
NYerInMA : 12/14/2018 9:47 pm : link
This team just can't close things out. Ugh.
You just know the Golden Knights have to be saying  
baadbill : 12/16/2018 12:43 pm : link
‘Ok, they scored first, now we have them just where we want them”
Well, that sucked  
baadbill : 12/16/2018 3:30 pm : link
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Vegas seemed a lot quicker than we were today,  
yatqb : 12/16/2018 3:38 pm : link
at least that's what it looked like to me flipping back and forth.
Yeah 2 bad periods by NYR to start, a decent 3rd but an L in OT  
ChaChing : 12/16/2018 4:31 pm : link
Henrik was amazing again. You could say he really only gave up the last 2 goals - 1st one was a random bouncer off the boards & over the net off of him, the other one of the many awful D zone plays setting Vegas up right in front

In the mean time with that awful D, he was stopping rush after rush, grade A chance after chance. Amazing how good he still is. Team is what it is at this point being so young but it would be nice to get this man a halfway decent defense...
I had the Giants on the big screen and Rangers on my tablet  
baadbill : 12/16/2018 7:38 pm : link
which resulted in me having no sense of the flow of either game (well, that’s not exactly accurate - it was pretty easy to tell the flow down the toilet of the Giants)... but what was clear about the Rangers was Hank... he has been at the very top of his game
Why are they wearing white tonight?  
Jim in Scranton : 12/18/2018 9:23 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 12/18/2018 9:36 pm : link
What a goal by Hayes to take the lead with under a minute - a shorty. Great pass by Namestnikov and Chytl ices it with the EN goal.

Nice win.
RE: Why are they wearing white tonight?  
baadbill : 12/18/2018 9:36 pm : link
In comment 14225480 Jim in Scranton said:
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Not sure, but I heard them say before the game they were wearing white the last time they played Anaheim in the Garden and won.
No way I thought the Rangers were going to pull a W after  
baadbill : 12/18/2018 9:38 pm : link
that first Anaheim goal ... but I have to give them credit for hanging in ... nice to see them put it away in the last minute
I don't think I would  
JPinstripes : 12/18/2018 9:40 pm : link
trade Hayes, he is a beast - really coming into his own. Total 2 way center man.
I like them wearing white at home  
Jim in Scranton : 12/18/2018 9:43 pm : link
Brings back a lot of memories.
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arcarsenal : 12/18/2018 10:00 pm : link
I think Zuccarello will be dealt, but I'd really hope that they'll consider hanging onto Hayes. He's playing really well this year and can be part of the turnaround.
That third period  
Jay in Toronto : 12/19/2018 10:32 am : link
Was very heartening.

Good to see the kids (Howden, Chytil, Pionk, D'Angelo) step up with quality minutes.

Namestinikov is making someone look like a genius (or fool).

I do miss the dedicated game threads. Could someone please explain why they were abandoned?
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