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NFT: Islanders at Rangers: 7 PM on MSG+

Anakim : 11/21/2018 12:22 pm
Fuck you dudes (again) for having me create this thread.


The Islanders have won eight straight against the Rangers since Dec. 6, 2016 and they're 12-1-0 against the Rangers since Dec. 2, 2015.


Soooooo I think it's about time the Rangers win one! Get it for us, Georgiev! And let Chytil's streak continue.
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Fast goal ... disallowed because "whistle blew while puck under  
baadbill : 11/29/2018 8:40 pm : link
goalie" ?

That is bullshit ... but it doesn't matter because I think Fast pushed the puck in with his hand
oh man, this is bad  
baadbill : 11/29/2018 8:58 pm : link
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What is the Rangers record since McLeod got hurt?  
baadbill : 11/29/2018 9:28 pm : link
... I think, not good ... role player, but maybe an important role player?
Assuming the Rangers lose (behind 3 goals with 3 mins left)  
baadbill : 11/29/2018 9:47 pm : link
then they will have lost 3 of the 4 games since McLeod fractured his hand... maybe a coincidence, but ...
Yes, it is entirely a coincidence  
Greg from LI : 11/30/2018 8:07 am : link
They are reverting to the mean, which just happens to be at the same time as McLeod being out.
RE: Yes, it is entirely a coincidence  
baadbill : 11/30/2018 10:11 am : link
In comment 14198027 Greg from LI said:
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They are reverting to the mean, which just happens to be at the same time as McLeod being out.


You are probably right Greg, although it has seemed to me that McLeod had been a significant factor in team chemistry before getting hurt - not so much for his fighting majors, but for his physical and high energy play (and from what I read, his presence in the locker room)
They played Smith at F???  
Greg from LI : 11/30/2018 10:16 am : link
Even aside from the fact that it's a sad statement that they'd rather play a defenseman at forward than call someone up....why Smith instead of Pionk or DeAngelo?
RE: They played Smith at F???  
baadbill : 11/30/2018 10:39 am : link
In comment 14198199 Greg from LI said:
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Even aside from the fact that it's a sad statement that they'd rather play a defenseman at forward than call someone up....why Smith instead of Pionk or DeAngelo?


I heard something in the minutes before game time about Smith being listed at forward but I don't recall any shift in which I was aware of his actually skating at forward during the game.

Only 11 forwards were dressed ... so maybe it was something Quinn put on paper to show 4 lines? ... but why would he care to just show it on paper? I dunno ... it's a bit bizarre... It would be interesting to see his TOI, but I couldn't find the game stats (they wouldn't break down his TOI by position anyway I guess)
Found the game recap  
baadbill : 11/30/2018 10:45 am : link
Smith played significantly less than the other defensemen

(but Shattenkirk even less than Smith... is he becoming a PP player only?)
Well the good run  
MetsAreBack : 12/1/2018 8:30 pm : link
Appears to be in the rear view mirror and the lack of talent is starting to show.

Georgiev with a meltdown after the third goal not a good look either

They are generally playing hard - it's been a good watch for two months. But hopefully we can stockpile picks again this February
RE: Well the good run  
baadbill : 12/1/2018 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14200054 MetsAreBack said:
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Appears to be in the rear view mirror and the lack of talent is starting to show.

Georgiev with a meltdown after the third goal not a good look either

They are generally playing hard - it's been a good watch for two months. But hopefully we can stockpile picks again this February


They are still fighting
11:07 to go in 2nd... Rangers with 4 SOG  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 7:26 pm : link
... and lead 1-0

Quinn wants them focusing on reducing the number of odd man rushes
Up 2-0,  
Jim in Scranton : 12/2/2018 7:32 pm : link
I am sure they will allow the Jets back in.
Rangers take 2-0 lead in 2nd  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 7:33 pm : link
with a total of 8 SOG in the game

Against a very good Jets team
2-0  
ChaChing : 12/2/2018 7:33 pm : link
Rangers finally have a few SOGs in succession and Staal gets one to go

Long way to go tho especially vs this O
Not only does Hank lose his stick more than any goalie I've  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 7:40 pm : link
ever seen, he also removes his mask to stop play more than any other goalie I've seen
The hand-eye coordination to deflect that shot is just incredible  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 7:45 pm : link
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I was about to say...  
ChaChing : 12/2/2018 8:39 pm : link
6 on 5 is going to be nerve-wracking

But I didn't even get a chance to jinx them

Welp, more work to do
RE: I was about to say...  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 8:43 pm : link
In comment 14202800 ChaChing said:
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6 on 5 is going to be nerve-wracking

But I didn't even get a chance to jinx them

Welp, more work to do


Me too... I just hope they can hold them off until OT
RE: RE: I was about to say...  
ChaChing : 12/2/2018 8:45 pm : link
In comment 14202808 baadbill said:
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In comment 14202800 ChaChing said:
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6 on 5 is going to be nerve-wracking

But I didn't even get a chance to jinx them

Welp, more work to do


Me too... I just hope they can hold them off until OT

No kidding. Henrik with a save w/ 8s left to get us there

That guy is really f'n good. Year after year
What did I just say?  
ChaChing : 12/2/2018 8:52 pm : link
Damn. 41-18 SOGs
Apparently  
ChaChing : 12/2/2018 8:58 pm : link
no one can stop that same Zibby shot...wow

Or Laine ever
ugh... missing Zucc hurts on the shootouts  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 8:59 pm : link
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Rangers regressing to the mean now  
NYerInMA : 12/2/2018 9:18 pm : link
after that 9-1-1 run. I think that was just a tease, unfortunately.
RE: Rangers regressing to the mean now  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 9:21 pm : link
In comment 14202913 NYerInMA said:
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after that 9-1-1 run. I think that was just a tease, unfortunately.


Nah. They are a fun group to watch and cheer for regardless. I love their work ethic. Nobody thought (thinks) the Rangers are contending for the cup this year. This year is all about getting the 1st pick in the draft while having fun watching them compete.
Other than us having a 3-0 lead  
Rob in Rockaway : 12/2/2018 9:22 pm : link
nothing that happened tonight really surprised me, but I'm still pissed off anyway.
RE: RE: Rangers regressing to the mean now  
MetsAreBack : 12/2/2018 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14202924 baadbill said:
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In comment 14202913 NYerInMA said:


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after that 9-1-1 run. I think that was just a tease, unfortunately.



Nah. They are a fun group to watch and cheer for regardless. I love their work ethic. Nobody thought (thinks) the Rangers are contending for the cup this year. This year is all about getting the 1st pick in the draft while having fun watching them compete.


How do you plan to do that while getting all these BS overtime points? We are going to end up with the 8th-10th pick in the draft ... again

Hopefully Staal is playing well enough to move his contract in February.

By the way Lundqvist never had mask issues prior to this past week. Never. (He also had skate blade issues last week). To insinuate that he's buying time or cheating is straight bullshit.
RE: Other than us having a 3-0 lead  
NYerInMA : 12/2/2018 9:36 pm : link
In comment 14202927 Rob in Rockaway said:
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nothing that happened tonight really surprised me, but I'm still pissed off anyway.


Yeah, that's true. I expected them to lose tonight anyway, but I got sucked in after they took a 3-0 lead. Oops.
There is now way you have been watching  
Rob in Rockaway : 12/2/2018 9:37 pm : link
it's a running joke in my house how often he loses his stick, and lately how often he pulls his own mask off.
RE: RE: RE: Rangers regressing to the mean now  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 9:40 pm : link
In comment 14202954 MetsAreBack said:
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In comment 14202924 baadbill said:


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In comment 14202913 NYerInMA said:


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after that 9-1-1 run. I think that was just a tease, unfortunately.



Nah. They are a fun group to watch and cheer for regardless. I love their work ethic. Nobody thought (thinks) the Rangers are contending for the cup this year. This year is all about getting the 1st pick in the draft while having fun watching them compete.



How do you plan to do that while getting all these BS overtime points? We are going to end up with the 8th-10th pick in the draft ... again

Hopefully Staal is playing well enough to move his contract in February.

By the way Lundqvist never had mask issues prior to this past week. Never. (He also had skate blade issues last week). To insinuate that he's buying time or cheating is straight bullshit.


I'm not insinuating anything about Hank. I'm a fucking Rangers' fan and love watching Lundqvist. But don't be stupid and say he hasn't stopped play for a broken strap before this week because that is total crap.

As for how I plan to do that (get the 1st round pick), I have news for you... neither you nor I nor any fan have anything to do with whether they win or lose. Thus, I enjoy rooting for a hard working team while also wanting them to get the 1st round pick. At the end of the day, they will end up with whatever record they end up with, regardless of what I think or do (or what you think or what you do). And it's just stupid to think otherwise.
The other thing about this season that is enjoyable is watching  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 9:42 pm : link
these guys learn to play the way Quinn wants them to play. And that's a process that will carry over and grow year to year. I really love what Quinn's doing so far this year.
The stick and blade/mask issues are separate discussions  
MetsAreBack : 12/2/2018 9:56 pm : link
I agree he loses his stick a lot (and doesn't handle the puck well with it either). The other stuff never happened before this past week. He's not Jonathan Quick with that crap.

Baadbill - your we control nothing crap as fans so I'm the most optimistic bestest fan there ever was ... is tired
RE: The stick and blade/mask issues are separate discussions  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 10:08 pm : link
In comment 14203021 MetsAreBack said:
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I agree he loses his stick a lot (and doesn't handle the puck well with it either). The other stuff never happened before this past week. He's not Jonathan Quick with that crap.

Baadbill - your we control nothing crap as fans so I'm the most optimistic bestest fan there ever was ... is tired


Get lost with your "bestest fan there ever was" crap. I'm tired of hearing people like you moan and groan that the Giants or Rangers winning a game means the rest of us are "bad fans" and that some how because we get excited by a win, that it is "our fault" when they don't get the first pick in the draft. What a load of fucking bull crap that is.

It is stupid. It is magical thinking. And it is very tiresome.

I want the Giants to get the first pick in the 2019 draft. But you know what, I also enjoyed today's game. It was a fun game. And I enjoy how the Rangers play. And I want them to have the first pick in the draft.

And my enjoying the Giants today has zero to do with whether they won or lost. And has zero to do with how they draft. So stop with your stupidity already.
I am very aware that every win by the Rangers (or Giants)  
baadbill : 12/2/2018 10:20 pm : link
hurts their draft position. But, I also realize I can't control any of that. All I can control is how I react to what happens - and I chose to react in a way that makes me happiest (since reacting in a way that makes me unhappy doesn't seem like a very wise life philosophy).

So, I try to enjoy each game of the season as though the draft position doesn't matter (because I can't control it anyway). And, of course, if they happen to lose so many games they end up with the #1 or other great draft position, then I am happy as a pig in shit about that too.

It is like going on vacation to the beach and having it rain every day. You can either chose to stay inside and be miserable, or find a way to relax and have a good vacation anyway. I chose to enjoy my vacation even if it rains.

It is really all about being an adult.
Diarrhea of the mouth  
MetsAreBack : 12/2/2018 11:45 pm : link
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Rooting for losses in hockey is futile, IMO  
Mike in Long Beach : 12/3/2018 9:03 am : link
You can lose every game and the chances of landing Jack Hughes still rests at less than 25%. It's not worth the risk of establishing a defeatist culture. And yes, I think that is a very real thing.

In football, I get it a lot more. Last year's final 4 games was the first time I ever brought myself to root against the Giants for their own best interests. But while I get the notion a lot more in football, I too have issues actually bringing myself to do it. I was rooting for us yesterday.

And while I know this is idiotic, I sit here and say to myself that we're 2 games out of the wild card if Washington loses tomorrow. It's not happening. I know it. But having that math exist keeps me invested. So I cling to it. Winning yesterday is why I'll be watching for sure next week. And since I love sports and want to watch, I often root for the Giants even if it's not in their best interests.
Rangers have not won a road game in regulation this season  
baadbill : 12/8/2018 9:41 pm : link
... I knew they didn't have a good road record but I had no idea they haven't yet won in regulation... geez
Pretty damn good on the shootouts ... even without Zucc  
baadbill : 12/8/2018 9:56 pm : link
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Must be pretty awesome  
B in ALB : 12/8/2018 9:59 pm : link
scoring that goal in front of your pops.

Henrik made some HUGE saves despite giving up four goals. I think the D failed him more than anything.
Big game against the best team in the league right now  
baadbill : 12/10/2018 7:29 pm : link
A good test for the Rangers. I'm pumped for a good showing by this Rangers team, win or lose. C'mon boys. Don't get embarrassed.
Bad penalty by Krieder  
baadbill : 12/10/2018 8:11 pm : link
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Fedotenko  
B in ALB : 12/10/2018 8:58 pm : link
St Louis, Richards and Dan Boyle is my guess on the trivia.
Weaksauce  
RodneyHamp : 12/10/2018 8:59 pm : link
Hank
RE: Fedotenko  
baadbill : 12/10/2018 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14213736 B in ALB said:
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St Louis, Richards and Dan Boyle is my guess on the trivia.


I thought the Q was what current Rangers formerly played for Tampa (but I doubt I'm right, because I only saw it for a brief moment)... and besides I can only think of 3 current Rangers who belonged with Tampa:

Howden
Namestnikov
DeAngelo (why I used the word "belonged"... he was drafted by Tampa but not sure he ever played with them)
ugh  
baadbill : 12/10/2018 9:52 pm : link
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Better team than I thought they'd be  
MetsAreBack : 12/10/2018 9:54 pm : link
But just looked, we have fewest ROW in hockey through 30 games - just 9 - tied with Chicago for that mark (man how times have changed vs 5 years ago... LA is atrocious too)

A few of that 9 row is ot 3-on-3 too... this team is trying, and that's admirable .... but it's a generally terrible team
Good first period  
MetsAreBack : 12/14/2018 7:51 pm : link
One thing I don't quite get - when in the defensive zone and a defender breaks his stick ... at least in the 1st and 3rd periods... why don't they simply get another stick? If it's a Dman perhaps a forward gives them a stick and then opportunistically grabs himself another...

Rangers played basically 2 on 5 for 30 seconds because two sticks broke... got through it somehow ... but was odd to me that this is deemed better odds than taking 4 seconds to skate 25 feet to the bench to grab one
RE: Good first period  
baadbill : 12/14/2018 7:55 pm : link
In comment 14219032 MetsAreBack said:
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One thing I don't quite get - when in the defensive zone and a defender breaks his stick ... at least in the 1st and 3rd periods... why don't they simply get another stick? If it's a Dman perhaps a forward gives them a stick and then opportunistically grabs himself another...

Rangers played basically 2 on 5 for 30 seconds because two sticks broke... got through it somehow ... but was odd to me that this is deemed better odds than taking 4 seconds to skate 25 feet to the bench to grab one


I've never understood that ... the player without a stick always seems to act as though he's making a difference (and sometimes, but very rarely, he kicks a puck out of the zone), but imo 99.99% of the time the team would be better playing 5 on 3 for the 10 seconds it would take for him to get a new stick. But I must be wrong because I don't think I've ever seen that happen.
Wouldn't take anywhere close to 10 seconds  
MetsAreBack : 12/14/2018 8:04 pm : link
Unless it's Mike Rupp or something At least in 1st and 3rd periods when your bench is near. In the second period I could understand the hesitance
3 PPG ... holy crap ... lol  
baadbill : 12/14/2018 8:15 pm : link
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