Worst Off-season Move?

Bleacher Report et al says SB was a mistake, and Sy'56 is mocking the national media by putting "You don't pick a RB in the first 10 picks" multiple times in his reviews, and he knows more about the Gmen than 20 of these guys added together.

..after SB makes a play few backs in the league can make.

but trading any sort of future picks for ogletree was laugh out loud funny.

because the day Gettleman signed him anyone who follows and watches the NFL said what the hell is he doing? You didn't have be an expert or a scout to know Stewart was completely washed up.

The other signings some people debated the cost, the fit. the quality of the player etc. But with Stewart it was so obvious from the minute the contract was signed.

not dropping flowers day 1.

in football. That being said, its TBD. If 10 years from now we look back and we never found ourselves in a position to take a QB, it could have been a bad move. If we go and draft a QB in this next draft and that player becomes great, than it was the right move. Too early to call this one, but just because he's awesome, doesn't make it the right move.

Signing OBJ and not bringing back TC as GM.

deserves consideration.

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to the Nate Solder contract for worst move

Knowing we were toast and we began to speculate on the top players in the Spring Draft. Sy'56 came right out and said on this board that the top player coming out in the draft is Saquon Barkley... and I absolutely agree with him.

In comment 14197398 The_Boss said:

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Yes. But I’m fine with DG. Shurmur on the other hand is about as inspiring as man tits.

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to the Nate Solder contract for worst move

Solder has been fine, even good, lately. Omahea or whatever his name was was shit tried twice and Ogletree is a limited cover LB but solder can help this ol going forward.

Omameh to play RG and Flowers RT.

That right there derailed the entire beginning to our season.

has to top the list.

The Rams had to be floored when that offer was presented in exchange for taking his contract. More than likely they all looked at each other and said, "Really? Let's make this deal before Gettleman changes his mind!"

All you have to know if this was a good deal is ask whether you would have given him the exact deal he is on if he were on the open market as a free agent.

If the answer is "No," then to give up picks for him makes it worse when you are a team in need as many cost controlled players as possible on a team that is supposedly "rebuilding" (or were they?). If he can't give you effective play, what is he bringing to your team to compensate other than being a peer mentor at his current cap number?

Ogletree is showing exactly why he was made available by the Rams.

Ogletree cost a high 4th round pick and $10m in cap space.

Omahmeh just sucked donkey balls.

Put the $10M plus what they gave Omahmah into a starting RG who was actually capable of playing football. Use the 4th round pick on Tim Settle, or Avonte Maddox, or Maurice Hurst, or any of a number of players who could have helped a defense that's starting like 4 or 5 street free agents. Would they have more wins right now? who knows, but they'd be in better shape.

I think Saquon was the only good move we made and I was pretty pro qb.

- Solder was a massive overpay. He's been better recently thankfully.
- Omameh... sucks
- Stewart sucks
- Lattimer was a non factor
- Kareem Martin is a non factor
- The Snacks/Apple trades still bother me

Curtis Riley might be our best offseason signing...

that they NEEDED an LT, and they only paid Solder what he would have gotten somewhere else. He wasn't supposed to suck so badly.

Gettleman has been the biggest mistake. Except for Barkely just about every other move hasn't been very good.

closely followed by Stewart.

Ogletree still has good games. His coverage blows, but he does make good plays, just not enough.

I think Solder had a bad neck and it was really limiting him, but oddly enough, as Hernandez has gotten better and Brown took over RG, Solder has been pretty good.

Omameh might have been better if left at LG and then if we did draft Hernandez still we could've let them compete.

was the biggest missnof our offseason is a fucking moron. Meanwhile no QB other than the one drafted ahead of Barkley even looks remotely impressive after 11 games. I’m not even sold one anyone other than Mayfield making it to contract 2 as a starter.

Our biggest miss was Omameh. We just replaced him with a waiver add and was playing better than him after being on the team for 3/4 days.

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In comment 14197398 The_Boss said: Quote: I don’t agree on DG, he has turned over a great deal of the roster and this team may be worse than last year, nor has he acquired draft picks or cap space to improve this team markedly in the future. Last year they had the excuse of Beckham being out, no excuse this year. - Yes. But I’m fine with DG. Shurmur on the other hand is about as inspiring as man tits.

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In comment 14197398 The_Boss said: Quote: I don’t agree on DG, he has turned over a great deal of the roster and this team may be worse than last year, nor has he acquired draft picks or cap space to improve this team markedly in the future. Last year they had the excuse of Beckham being out, no excuse this year. - Yes. But I’m fine with DG. Shurmur on the other hand is about as inspiring as man tits.

The worst off-season move was signing Solder.

Omameh was a bad sign, but that mistake was made at a fraction of what it has and will cost the team for signing Solder.

He was hired during last season.

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Signing OBJ and not bringing back TC as GM.

Agree with half of what you said. Signing OBJ was a stupid mistake. They had him under control for 2 years assuming he was franchised. IMHO the sooner he's traded the better.

As for TC, he may have been better than Reese or DG, but what's he done in JAX ?

with an average QB

In comment 14197400 RobCrossRiver56 said:

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Knowing we were toast and we began to speculate on the top players in the Spring Draft. Sy'56 came right out and said on this board that the top player coming out in the draft is Saquon Barkley... and I absolutely agree with him.

I love sy, but he wasn't exactly sticking his neck out with that take. It was pretty commonly known that Barkley was the best player and surest thing.

in the NFL. It's cold comfort to say he's "gotten better". Unless his play improves exponentially, his contract is a total albatross. So, at a minimum, it's in the conversation for worst signing.

Over Darnold is like buying a Ferrari instead of investing in fixing your crumbling, structurally dangerous house

In comment 14197424 crackerjack465 said:

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I think Saquon was the only good move we made and I was pretty pro qb. - Solder was a massive overpay. He's been better recently thankfully. - Omameh... sucks - Stewart sucks - Lattimer was a non factor - Kareem Martin is a non factor - The Snacks/Apple trades still bother me Curtis Riley might be our best offseason signing...

If you're watching the Saints tonight - the Apple trade was a steal

but that waste of money was at least on low $ range.

The worst move factoring in total value paid probably has to be Solder since we are likely going nowhere for quite awhile...

Hiring Gettleman, hiring Shurmur, sticking with Eli, drafting Barkley, signing Beckham, signing Solder...

Everything they did was wrong. If you don't agree, look not only at the results but at what the future looks like.

This offseason was a total mistake.

Trade down a few spots & nab Nelson whose been a beast for them. He will anchor that line & the Colts all of a sudden are dangerous.

I think Barkley is a great kid & I enjoy watching him, but this team needed Nelson more.

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in football. That being said, its TBD. If 10 years from now we look back and we never found ourselves in a position to take a QB, it could have been a bad move. If we go and draft a QB in this next draft and that player becomes great, than it was the right move. Too early to call this one, but just because he's awesome, doesn't make it the right move.

Conversely, if Darnold, Rosen, and Allen are all mediocre or worse, it was also the correct decision.

I don't think much of Allen but I think Darnold or Rosen could be really good someday.

oma-MEH & fl-OW-ers

The mess DG was left with a roster ..
Who was your QB Tanney ? you must of had some great plan ..

In comment 14197391 NoPeanutz said:

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deserves consideration.

Agree. The thing is they had loads of tape on this guy. How come he was a failure here?

was the hiring of Ernie Accorsi.

A complete con job by Mara.

hands down was Dave gettlemen

This team needs a complete overhaul, from front office, scouts, coaches, down to the players. We are quickly approaching a decade of football worse than the 70s

They hired a place holder gm who is keeping the seat warm for their internal replacement Kevin abrams

From the handling of Eli Manning last season by John Mara, to the drafting of flowers when people in the room were arguing he was a third round talent, to the notion that this team was a few pieces away from a super goal with Eli Manning. The list goes on concerning bone headed decisions that set them back before the players even taken the field

Just broken

The only question I had at the time, was not resigning Fluker, but I didn't have a problem with Omameh. Change on the OL was needed, and while they have not been good, they seem to be better at this point of the season, as opposed to this time last year.

could the idea that taking the best player in the entire draft and slam dunk offensive rookie of the year be in consideration for "worst offseason move".

Don't fans write for Bleacher Report?

In comment 14198058 Britt in VA said:

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could the idea that taking the best player in the entire draft and slam dunk offensive rookie of the year be in consideration for "worst offseason move". Don't fans write for Bleacher Report?

I’m very glad we have Barkley, but look at what the Colts are doing now that they have fixed their line. If the plan was to keep Eli, you could have drafted Nelson & go OL again in round 2.

In letting Flowers start the season uncontested once again.

I can at least understand the fan level thought process behind wanting Omameh, but that's one the professionals need to sort out. Gives me little faith they have any idea what they're doing in pro scouting which is weird since Gettleman was decent at it when he was here.

Fans will point to his stats and say obviously it was the right move because the raw numbers and the metrics say so.

It didn't lead to more wins because there's no foundation built on this team, and all those yards and touchdowns resulted in a marginal uptick to the offense that was padded by some big games against equally bad teams.

I was against drafting Nelson that high, but looking at what he's done for the Colts, it's really hard not to wonder how much better the Giants would be with that type of player on the OL. I didn't think it was possible for him to play to his expectations, but he has. And I like Hernandez, but he's had a normal rookie year while Nelson does indeed look special in the same way Barkley does.

My oldest son, a knowledgeable fan, but nevertheless a fan, used to write for them.

He is an accomplished writer, two books published, but he always told me BR should not be taken too seriously

In comment 14198094 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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Fans will point to his stats and say obviously it was the right move because the raw numbers and the metrics say so. It didn't lead to more wins because there's no foundation built on this team, and all those yards and touchdowns resulted in a marginal uptick to the offense that was padded by some big games against equally bad teams. I was against drafting Nelson that high, but looking at what he's done for the Colts, it's really hard not to wonder how much better the Giants would be with that type of player on the OL. I didn't think it was possible for him to play to his expectations, but he has. And I like Hernandez, but he's had a normal rookie year while Nelson does indeed look special in the same way Barkley does.

I recognize Barkley's talent too, and I was secretly envious of the Colts' draft. Its way earlier than I'd normally want to take a guard, but most great lines in the league are anchored by at least two high draft picks. Nelson and Smith would maybe mean our 7-8 year problem on the line coming to an end. That would be worth a position reach in a year when the available quarterbacks were not (and have not been) that impressive.

The dude is a threat to take it to the house on EVERY play.

If we drafted a QB, why would be better off? We wouldn't. We'd still have a crappy roster, a crappy line, and no running game.

Just wait until they put a line in front of this guy. He's going to me the next QB, whomever he is, look immensely better and make their job WAY easier.

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