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XFL Cities leaked... Did your city get a team? Do you care?

Ben in Tampa : 12/1/2018 9:27 pm
The XFL website apparently leaked the 8 cities that will be hosting teams in the second inaugural season. They are:

Dallas
Houston
Los Angeles
New York
St. Louis
Seattle
Tampa Bay
Washington, DC

The official announcements are next week.
Isn’t this irrelevant  
Rflairr : 12/1/2018 9:39 pm : link
With the new Bill Polian league?
Seems like 2 new leagues  
mrvax : 12/1/2018 9:52 pm : link
are forming. The revived XFL and the Alliance of American Football, (AAF).

Hopefully they will play in the NFL off-season.
yawn  
spike : 12/1/2018 10:15 pm : link
is vince mcmahon involved?
Vince McMahon pitting $500 million of his cash into it  
Ben in Tampa : 12/1/2018 10:34 pm : link
But Oliver Luck is the CEO and running the league.

I think the XFL will outlast the AAF only because McMahon is a crazy billionaire in his 70s, who’ll keep pumping money in just because he can
Doesn't it make more sense to go into smaller cities  
Mad Mike : 12/1/2018 10:40 pm : link
where there are fewer sports options to compete with, like the AAFL is doing. Obviously they won't be going head to head with the NFL season, but I'd think you'd still want to be somewhere with not as much going on as major cities, so you're a bit of a bigger deal among entertainment options.
Which league..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/1/2018 10:40 pm : link
outlasts the other one will be a matter of semantics. Technically, the Arena League still exists, with all 5 fans that follow it and cities like Des Molines that back it up.
shouldve gone  
spike : 12/1/2018 11:32 pm : link
with Portland, Austin, San Diego
I'll watch.  
smshmth8690 : 12/1/2018 11:40 pm : link
I like football, why not? Sure the quality will suck, but a shitty football game is still better than basketball to me, and yes, I am glad they will have a team in NY. Hopefully Pat Leonard gets put on their beat, and taken off of the Giants. Hey a guy can wish right?
It's a worse product  
allstarjim : 12/2/2018 2:30 am : link
than the big time college programs. I don't know why these guys still think there is money to be made in these leagues. They keep failing.
RE: It's a worse product  
mrvax : 12/2/2018 5:09 am : link
In comment 14200333 allstarjim said:
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than the big time college programs. I don't know why these guys still think there is money to be made in these leagues. They keep failing.


I really hope at least 1 league succeeds. I dislike monopolies and if there is a good showing, the NFL may choose to change some policies.

Having football during the off-season would be great if the product is decent.
I'll start caring when they show that they're worth watching.  
Ira : 12/2/2018 6:42 am : link
Until that point, I'll ignore it. Most of these ventures fail, but there was the ABA, so one never knows.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/2/2018 7:32 am : link
Zzz...
Several of the other ventures failed  
HomerJones45 : 12/2/2018 7:43 am : link
due to the NFL's monopolistic ways. All of these new leagues struggle the first few years and will need to fight the journalistic bashing from the NFL's media toadies who wield influence with fans until they get their legs underneath them, like the old AFL which took 7 seasons to reach a level competitive with the NFL.

With video services dying for content and the NFL turning into the outdoor Arena League, this is content that will find a home. Actually, NBC (which got into football broadcasting as the home of the old AFL) had a lot of potential with the XFL since it was part owner but Dick Ebersol lost his nerve, folded it and backed up a Brinks truck for the NFL Lords which is why it is amusing that his kid is producer or whatever for the other new league.
Anyone have any info on the New York team?  
Gene : 12/2/2018 9:47 am : link
Ownership?
Name?
Where they're going to play?
Geographically  
Chocco : 12/2/2018 10:25 am : link
Merges well with the AAF
I'm losing interest in the NFL  
ZogZerg : 12/2/2018 11:17 am : link
I don't care at all about any other football league.
College Football is a lot more fun to watch.
If just..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/2/2018 11:21 am : link
having football on would ensure an audience would watch, the CFL would have a bigger viewership in the US.

Both of these leagues will even pale in comparison to the talent of the CFL and people will not watch poor football.

Semi-pro football games are lucky to attract a few hundred spectators. This won't be much of a step up from that.
RE: If just..  
smshmth8690 : 12/2/2018 12:13 pm : link
In comment 14200483 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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having football on would ensure an audience would watch, the CFL would have a bigger viewership in the US.

Both of these leagues will even pale in comparison to the talent of the CFL and people will not watch poor football.

Semi-pro football games are lucky to attract a few hundred spectators. This won't be much of a step up from that.


I can't argue with the CFL point. I started watching it earlier this year, and lost interest. I don't watch much college football, due to my schedule, but I absolutely loved the idea of the WLAF. Why can't the NFL either start a developemental league, or invest in one of the startups? The USFL gained some traction in the 80's because they threw a little money around, maybe there will be enough in one of the two start up leagues to make it watchable?
IF  
giantsFC : 12/2/2018 12:22 pm : link
It was legit NFL-fringe talent and it was done during offseason AND they played regular rules (not XFL or CFL crap) then it could be an interesting bridge during that Boeing offseason,

I just personally feel it’s going to lack atmosphere and be a watered down dull event.

But would be cool if they can get fantasy football involved.
RE: Anyone have any info on the New York team?  
Ben in Tampa : 12/2/2018 1:10 pm : link
In comment 14200428 Gene said:
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Ownership?
Name?
Where they're going to play?


Vince McMahon owns all 8 teams.

Name & location likely announced Wednesday at the press conference. Safe to assume they will play at MetLife as that is where the conference is being held.
.  
Banks : 12/2/2018 1:13 pm : link
I wouldn't mind another league, but the talent pool is gonna be weak with 2 leagues. I'm definitely tuning into one of em though
McMahon would have a much better legacy  
Knineteen : 12/2/2018 1:30 pm : link
by donating the $500 million to find a cure for cancer.

The NFL is successful because of its star players.
At $7,500/game (or $200K salary per year), the XFL isn't getting any star players for that amount of money.

I really don't see what is going to drastically change compared to the first XFL season.
My friend is  
Bleedin Blue : 12/2/2018 1:42 pm : link
The CFO of the league.
.  
Anakim : 12/6/2018 8:54 am : link
My XFL Proposed Names:

New York Hitmen (homage to the XFL 1.0 name)

Dallas Deadmen

Houston Rattlesnakes

Los Angeles Great Ones

St. Louis Vipers

Seattle Goats

Tampa Bay Showoffs

Washington Animals




You're welcome, Vince
I think it has a shot to disrupt the market  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/6/2018 9:41 am : link
and I only say that because Vince is going to distribute the product directly to the consumers, and cut out cable in the process.

Why would he do that?

A) He has the network to distribute it on if he chooses
B) All this talk about how he wants to get the game into 2 hrs. Well, how do you do that? No commercials, by going directly to consumers.


RE: RE: If just..  
Greg from LI : 12/6/2018 9:49 am : link
In comment 14200526 smshmth8690 said:
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The USFL gained some traction in the 80's because they threw a little money around, maybe there will be enough in one of the two start up leagues to make it watchable?


Not really, no. The USFL did OK for a while because they were playing in the spring/summer when there was no football and because they had legitimate talent, guys like Reggie White, Herschel Walker, Jim Kelly, Steve Young, Bart Oates, etc. There won't be anyone remotely on that level in the XFL.
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