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Beezer : 12/3/2018 3:54 pm
Since Rodgers is now "embattled," (OK, taking liberties for the sake of conversation), what would you be willing to have the Giants give up for him?

Picks? Players? Cash? Hell no, you'd never do it because _______________ (fill in the blank)? Too old?

It's Monday.
We'll never acquire Rodgers.  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/3/2018 3:55 pm : link
But if we did, he immediately becomes the most talented QB to play the position for this franchise.
I'll play  
tbonfig : 12/3/2018 4:02 pm : link
I'd offer all of the above, but I don't think you can create a package to entice GB without including one of our star offensive players, which I would not do. But a threesome of Odell, Barkley and Rodgers would be unbelievable.
Nothing  
Motley Two : 12/3/2018 4:02 pm : link
Dudes really good, but he's a dick.
Do not want.
He's 35.  
Beezer : 12/3/2018 4:03 pm : link
Just wondered if anyone would actually like it? Or if it might be a bit of the Robinson Cano thing (for those opposed to the Mets acquiring him).
RE: I'll play  
Beezer : 12/3/2018 4:04 pm : link
In comment 14204225 tbonfig said:
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I'd offer all of the above, but I don't think you can create a package to entice GB without including one of our star offensive players, which I would not do. But a threesome of Odell, Barkley and Rodgers would be unbelievable.


That's why I'd think it would HAVE to be picks. Maybe new coach, thoughts of a minor rebuild, their QB is 35 ...
I'll take the opposite view.  
FStubbs : 12/3/2018 4:09 pm : link
Assuming I could immediately move Eli off the roster with no cap hit, I'd give up a 2nd for Rodgers at most.

He's going to take up a huge section of my salary cap. I'd need some assurances that he isn't in decline. He's taken a lot of abuse over the years.
RE: Nothing  
Pep22 : 12/3/2018 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14204227 Motley Two said:
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Dudes really good, but he's a dick.
Do not want.


You have got to be kidding ! You don't want the most talented QB of all time because you don't like his personality. Wow. You'd rather a guy that can't get out of his own way because of his "aww shucks" personality. Unreal.
Probably everybody outside  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/3/2018 4:12 pm : link
of Saquon.
RE: but he's a dick  
Trainmaster : 12/3/2018 4:13 pm : link
Agree
RE: RE: Nothing  
DC Gmen Fan : 12/3/2018 4:19 pm : link
In comment 14204250 Pep22 said:
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In comment 14204227 Motley Two said:


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Dudes really good, but he's a dick.
Do not want.



You have got to be kidding ! You don't want the most talented QB of all time because you don't like his personality. Wow. You'd rather a guy that can't get out of his own way because of his "aww shucks" personality. Unreal.


Nope pass.

Rogers' knee is probably down to its last threads  
DC Gmen Fan : 12/3/2018 4:20 pm : link
injury potential is too great for the cost.
I'll trade Eli  
spike : 12/3/2018 4:25 pm : link
and Laudetta plus a no 1 for him
Open Market  
TyreeHelmet : 12/3/2018 4:34 pm : link
If they made him available, whats the package like they are getting? 3 first round picks? More?
Ha  
Cariboo : 12/3/2018 4:34 pm : link
We have Eli!
Rodgers days have past, his bad knee is deteriorating that is why  
SterlingArcher : 12/3/2018 4:35 pm : link
his play has fallen off. Add in the fact he is an ego maniac and 35 years I believe GB will soon part ways with him. I could see him surfacing with a CA team, that is where he is from.
Iíd give up a 2  
Tuckrule : 12/3/2018 4:40 pm : link
And a future 4
They just fired their coach for him...  
bradshaw44 : 12/3/2018 4:43 pm : link
Why would they trade him?
I'd want a discount double check  
Canton : 12/3/2018 4:48 pm : link
as insurance for his knee.
Nothing  
WillVAB : 12/3/2018 4:48 pm : link
Heís 35 and made of glass.
Pass  
Big Blue '56 : 12/3/2018 4:53 pm : link
.
When Rodgers retires  
RobCrossRiver56 : 12/3/2018 4:54 pm : link

Will "Roughing the Passer" go back to what it used to be?
RE: Rodgers days have past, his bad knee is deteriorating that is why  
spike : 12/3/2018 4:56 pm : link
In comment 14204296 SterlingArcher said:
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his play has fallen off. Add in the fact he is an ego maniac and 35 years I believe GB will soon part ways with him. I could see him surfacing with a CA team, that is where he is from.


Hello Gruden!
RE: When Rodgers retires  
mattyblue : 12/3/2018 5:23 pm : link
In comment 14204333 RobCrossRiver56 said:
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Will "Roughing the Passer" go back to what it used to be?


Lol
In 1961 the 49ers traded a washed up QB  
bigfish703 : 12/3/2018 5:40 pm : link
named Y.A. Tittle to the Giants. They received the great Lou Cordileone in exchange.

I'm just saying...
This whole Aaron Rodgers thing  
CRinCA : 12/3/2018 5:42 pm : link
Has bothered the shit out of me for the past 8 years.

If not for the epic Giant meltdown in 2010 vs. the Eagles which cost the Giants a playoff spot which then went to GB, Rodgers does not win a SB.

Would then likely turn out to be Dan Marino 2.0. Not bad company, but none of this "best QB ever" stuff.
I think Little Lord Fontleroy is available  
bigfish703 : 12/3/2018 5:46 pm : link
In comment 14204227 Motley Two said:
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Dudes really good, but he's a dick.
Do not want.


If not, perhaps we can get that sterling character who QBs the Steelers.
RE: This whole Aaron Rodgers thing  
Ash_3 : 12/3/2018 5:51 pm : link
In comment 14204392 CRinCA said:
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Has bothered the shit out of me for the past 8 years.

If not for the epic Giant meltdown in 2010 vs. the Eagles which cost the Giants a playoff spot which then went to GB, Rodgers does not win a SB.

Would then likely turn out to be Dan Marino 2.0. Not bad company, but none of this "best QB ever" stuff.


And if David Tyree doesn't make one of the most impressive catches in NFL history, Eli Manning has no shot at the HoF. I obviously think Eli should have a serious shot at the HoF, but the way this board thinks about some of the greatest players to ever play at their positions is preposterous.

I wish people had some fucking clarity and evenhandedness about how they evaluate players.
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arcarsenal : 12/3/2018 6:02 pm : link
Apparently it's the new "in" thing to do to start attempting to completely diminish not only one of the best QB's of this era, but one of the best QB's of all time.

That's sports fandom for ya.
RE: In 1961 the 49ers traded a washed up QB  
Big Blue '56 : 12/3/2018 6:10 pm : link
In comment 14204388 bigfish703 said:
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named Y.A. Tittle to the Giants. They received the great Lou Cordileone in exchange.

I'm just saying...


Actually, I remember very well the circumstances that brought YAT to the Giants. Red Hickey was the new 49ers coach and he installed a 3 QB system of mobile QBs (Waters, Kilmer and I canít recall the 3rd guy) who would alternate plays. YAT was NOT done by any means. He simply did NOT FIT into Hickeyís absurd QB schemes
How is he a dick ?  
Ron from Ninerland : 12/3/2018 6:21 pm : link
Please refresh my memory. He didn't agree with his coach ? As if he's the first QB to disagree with his coach. What else ? Has he acted like an asshole in front of the press and on the field like OBJ ? Does he act like a jerk like Cam Newton. Has he tried to screw underage girls like Rothlesburger ?

I agree that we shouldn't deal for a 36 year old QB but is that a reason to trash him ?
RE: RE: In 1961 the 49ers traded a washed up QB  
yalebowl : 12/3/2018 7:04 pm : link
In comment 14204424 Big Blue '56 said:
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In comment 14204388 bigfish703 said:


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named Y.A. Tittle to the Giants. They received the great Lou Cordileone in exchange.

I'm just saying...



Actually, I remember very well the circumstances that brought YAT to the Giants. Red Hickey was the new 49ers coach and he installed a 3 QB system of mobile QBs (Waters, Kilmer and I canít recall the 3rd guy) who would alternate plays. YAT was NOT done by any means. He simply did NOT FIT into Hickeyís absurd QB schemes


I think it was Brodie
Ash/arc- I am not trying to diminish AR in general.  
CRinCA : 12/3/2018 7:36 pm : link
Just saying that he did "back in" to the playoffs ahead of his SB victory. What he did when he got there or what Eli did previously had no bearing on my comment.

After 22 years you'd think I'd lurk more than post around here. Tough crowd.
In todayís NFL you donít want a veteran AR...  
trueblueinpw : 12/3/2018 7:47 pm : link
You want a Goff or Wilson or Wentz playing on their rookie deal. Or you want a Patriotís Way / Tom Brady / Robert Kraft / TB12 situation where youíre paid largely under the table and out of view of the pesky NFL salary cap rules. Rodgers in particular relies on his ability to move around a lot and thatís led to more than a few season ending injuries. Heís no kid and how many more times is he going break that clavicle? I donít see him being traded but if he were it would be to a team thatís a QB away and thatís not us. Having said that, Iíd send Webb and a conditional 3rd up there for the guy.
RE: RE: RE: In 1961 the 49ers traded a washed up QB  
Big Blue '56 : 12/3/2018 8:07 pm : link
In comment 14204483 yalebowl said:
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In comment 14204424 Big Blue '56 said:


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In comment 14204388 bigfish703 said:


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named Y.A. Tittle to the Giants. They received the great Lou Cordileone in exchange.

I'm just saying...



Actually, I remember very well the circumstances that brought YAT to the Giants. Red Hickey was the new 49ers coach and he installed a 3 QB system of mobile QBs (Waters, Kilmer and I canít recall the 3rd guy) who would alternate plays. YAT was NOT done by any means. He simply did NOT FIT into Hickeyís absurd QB schemes



I think it was Brodie


Yup, thanks. I just looked up Red Hickey . He was there for 5 years
RE: RE: Nothing  
aka dbrny : 12/3/2018 8:46 pm : link
In comment 14204250 Pep22 said:
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Dudes really good, but he's a dick.
Do not want.



You have got to be kidding ! You don't want the most talented QB of all time because you don't like his personality. Wow. You'd rather a guy that can't get out of his own way because of his "aww shucks" personality. Unreal.


Great stats, fewer rings...one less SB MVP.
RE: RE: This whole Aaron Rodgers thing  
Bluesbreaker : 12/3/2018 8:52 pm : link
In comment 14204402 Ash_3 said:
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Has bothered the shit out of me for the past 8 years.

If not for the epic Giant meltdown in 2010 vs. the Eagles which cost the Giants a playoff spot which then went to GB, Rodgers does not win a SB.

Would then likely turn out to be Dan Marino 2.0. Not bad company, but none of this "best QB ever" stuff.



And if David Tyree doesn't make one of the most impressive catches in NFL history, Eli Manning has no shot at the HoF. I obviously think Eli should have a serious shot at the HoF, but the way this board thinks about some of the greatest players to ever play at their positions is preposterous.

I wish people had some fucking clarity and evenhandedness about how they evaluate players.



And somehow you don't consider a basically trapped on all sides with some lineman pulling him back by his jersey that he escapes and does a 180 finds Tyree 40 yards down the field and manages to put the ball where only Tyree could
catch it in the middle of the field and yes Tyree makes a
miraculous catch decides if Eli is hall of fame worthy ..
I don't think so !
RE: RE: RE: Nothing  
TurdFurguson : 12/3/2018 10:44 pm : link
In comment 14204605 aka dbrny said:
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In comment 14204227 Motley Two said:


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Dudes really good, but he's a dick.
Do not want.



You have got to be kidding ! You don't want the most talented QB of all time because you don't like his personality. Wow. You'd rather a guy that can't get out of his own way because of his "aww shucks" personality. Unreal.



Great stats, fewer rings...one less SB MVP.


By that meausre then Eli is better than his brother.

Because, you know, itís all on Rogers why they donít have more. Nevermind the fact he hasnt had talent at ANY offensive skill position since that SB and his defenses have been attrocious. I would argue Green Bay hasnt done anything to help him and heís the sole reason they were competitive in the first place
Eli and the rights to Tom Coughlin's parking space  
Vanzetti : 12/4/2018 2:11 am : link
No way Packers can turn that down
Only if it means  
JFIB : 12/4/2018 8:16 am : link
Olivia Munn will be in the stands for every game.
RE: We'll never acquire Rodgers.  
Mr. Bungle : 12/4/2018 9:02 am : link
In comment 14204208 Dave in Hoboken said:
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But if we did, he immediately becomes the most talented QB to play the position for this franchise.

But not the one with the most rings.

(Sad trombone.)
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