What are the Knicks saying? And what could we realistically get back?
I haven't seen anything coming from the Knicks but here are the teams being reported as expressing interest in Frank.
"The Timberwolves, Magic, Grizzlies, Nets and Suns have all inquired about the 20-year-old Knicks guard, according to multiple reports." Link - ( New Window )
He's been a disaster. I was listening to The Ringer's NBA Show earlier & learned that Washington hasn't won more than 50 games in a season in 40 years. That's insane. Hell, even the Knicks won 50 plus games this decade & we're a dumpster fire.
as impressive and clutch as Mudiay's shooting has been in the past few wins, where is his passing? His assists numbers haven't been impressive. This team still desperately needs someone who can set everybody else up. It would help for times like now when they struggle to score.
as impressive and clutch as Mudiay's shooting has been in the past few wins, where is his passing? His assists numbers haven't been impressive. This team still desperately needs someone who can set everybody else up. It would help for times like now when they struggle to score.
he did have 7 assists last game..
assists are a very overrated stat, you can make every pass but if the guy does not make the shot no assist...
as impressive and clutch as Mudiay's shooting has been in the past few wins, where is his passing? His assists numbers haven't been impressive. This team still desperately needs someone who can set everybody else up. It would help for times like now when they struggle to score.
he did have 7 assists last game..
assists are a very overrated stat, you can make every pass but if the guy does not make the shot no assist...
And isn't that his high for the season? Fiz said he was the best passer on the team, I guess that isn't saying much, but I was expecting more.
I know knicks are going to lose, but I am completely unimpressed with this wizards team. There is no chance of the wizards team is doing anything. I would much rather be in knicks position then Wizards. Wall is overrated, Beal is overrated and Porter is overrated and they are all making max bucks.
of have him come down with another "neck issue." It's a waste of minutes.
I dunno. It's interesting. THJr with the Knicks' worst plus/minus at -15, and Lee with the best plus/minus at +13. I agree about trading him but you have to showcase him first.
He and Knox are developing a nice chemistry too, which is great to see. Dotson and Vonleh are two guys who have really taken their opportunities and run with them. Perfect complementary players on a good team.
He is not afraid to sit guys down. Frank has been absolute crap and Fis stuck him on the pine. Not a lot of coaches would dop that with a high draft pick.
Dotson and Mudiay have been much better after being benched. Let's see it if it works for Frank
Knicks finished well yesterday, but I put that more
on the Wizards. They went into the equivalent of a prevent defense: Run the clock down and chuck up a contested three. I'll never understand why a superior team doesn't just keep playing basketball at the end of a game.
As for the Knicks going forward, I do hope that they can find some sort of facilitator either in the draft or in free agency, but I also hold out hope that Trier and Knox can develop that ability going forward. A starting five of Trier, Dotson, Knox, KP, and Robinson in a couple of years could be fun if they all grow properly (learn to cut without the ball and pass out of double teams). Granted, the hope is that they can find more talent going forward.
Right now their offense doesn't seem to rely on a point guard at all. It seems like at least half the time, the "lead guard" dribbles the ball to half court and then immediately passes it to the big at the top of the three point line and runs to the corner. Not much facilitating going on.
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I've seen Knox live several times but last night was the first time from basically the old media seats at MSG behind the basket.
Effortless scoring ability.
Honestly, you can watch a thousand games and not see anyone at his size with the ability to score that easily."
lol
Typical hyperbole from Tommy but Knox also has one of the more clearly "not yet a man" bodies I can recall in a while (and yes I realize his age). He's going to have to be pushed, he's clearly a laid back kid but you see the tools to be very good.
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I've seen Knox live several times but last night was the first time from basically the old media seats at MSG behind the basket.
Effortless scoring ability.
Honestly, you can watch a thousand games and not see anyone at his size with the ability to score that easily."
lol
Typical hyperbole from Tommy but Knox also has one of the more clearly "not yet a man" bodies I can recall in a while (and yes I realize his age). He's going to have to be pushed, he's clearly a laid back kid but you see the tools to be very good.
This is why i do not want reddish, he has that same all the talent in the world but sometimes looks lazy type of talk about him...
How about Fizdale actually deploying some sort of offense and see if Frank can excel in that. Having Frank just stand in the corner while watching Burke or Zo dribble the air out of the ball does shit for Frank and his development.
I have a feeling he signs a 1 year deal and becomes a free agent and leaves..
Deadline should be coming up soon, i wonder if that is why frank rumors have started..
I dont think they are letting Trier go, it should only cost around $3 mil a year to keep him. He has too much potential to let him go for such a small amount of money.
I have a feeling he signs a 1 year deal and becomes a free agent and leaves..
Deadline should be coming up soon, i wonder if that is why frank rumors have started..
I dont think they are letting Trier go, it should only cost around $3 mil a year to keep him. He has too much potential to let him go for such a small amount of money.
How about Fizdale actually deploying some sort of offense and see if Frank can excel in that. Having Frank just stand in the corner while watching Burke or Zo dribble the air out of the ball does shit for Frank and his development.
Fizdale has an offense. It's a lot more likely that Frank just isn't a good offensive player. He's not aggressive or decisive enough, and that has to apparently be constantly dragged out of him.
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I haven't seen anything coming from the Knicks but here are the teams being reported as expressing interest in Frank.
"The Timberwolves, Magic, Grizzlies, Nets and Suns have all inquired about the 20-year-old Knicks guard, according to multiple reports."
Link - ( New Window )
looks a lot more confident
he did have 7 assists last game..
assists are a very overrated stat, you can make every pass but if the guy does not make the shot no assist...
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as impressive and clutch as Mudiay's shooting has been in the past few wins, where is his passing? His assists numbers haven't been impressive. This team still desperately needs someone who can set everybody else up. It would help for times like now when they struggle to score.
he did have 7 assists last game..
assists are a very overrated stat, you can make every pass but if the guy does not make the shot no assist...
And isn't that his high for the season? Fiz said he was the best passer on the team, I guess that isn't saying much, but I was expecting more.
the thing is though, if the knicks do sign a max guy, lee is a great glue guy off the bench
I dunno. It's interesting. THJr with the Knicks' worst plus/minus at -15, and Lee with the best plus/minus at +13. I agree about trading him but you have to showcase him first.
fair enough, i have been on the keep hardaway train, i would trade him, opens up 17 million to keep vonleh and maybe mudiya
i like vonleh next to KP down low, draymond lite..
JA Morant is my guy in the draft, hopefully his stock does not skyrocket to much
i like vonleh next to KP down low, draymond lite..
JA Morant is my guy in the draft, hopefully his stock does not skyrocket to much
Could Trier be the point?
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he could be your starting 2 of the future, especially next to a max and kp..
i like vonleh next to KP down low, draymond lite..
JA Morant is my guy in the draft, hopefully his stock does not skyrocket to much
Could Trier be the point?
i dont think he is a point guard, he is a scorer, when he creates he is looking to score not pass..
Dotson and Mudiay have been much better after being benched. Let's see it if it works for Frank
As for the Knicks going forward, I do hope that they can find some sort of facilitator either in the draft or in free agency, but I also hold out hope that Trier and Knox can develop that ability going forward. A starting five of Trier, Dotson, Knox, KP, and Robinson in a couple of years could be fun if they all grow properly (learn to cut without the ball and pass out of double teams). Granted, the hope is that they can find more talent going forward.
Right now their offense doesn't seem to rely on a point guard at all. It seems like at least half the time, the "lead guard" dribbles the ball to half court and then immediately passes it to the big at the top of the three point line and runs to the corner. Not much facilitating going on.
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I've seen Knox live several times but last night was the first time from basically the old media seats at MSG behind the basket.
Effortless scoring ability.
Honestly, you can watch a thousand games and not see anyone at his size with the ability to score that easily."
lol
Typical hyperbole from Tommy but Knox also has one of the more clearly "not yet a man" bodies I can recall in a while (and yes I realize his age). He's going to have to be pushed, he's clearly a laid back kid but you see the tools to be very good.
I have a feeling he signs a 1 year deal and becomes a free agent and leaves..
Deadline should be coming up soon, i wonder if that is why frank rumors have started..
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I've seen Knox live several times but last night was the first time from basically the old media seats at MSG behind the basket.
Effortless scoring ability.
Honestly, you can watch a thousand games and not see anyone at his size with the ability to score that easily."
lol
Typical hyperbole from Tommy but Knox also has one of the more clearly "not yet a man" bodies I can recall in a while (and yes I realize his age). He's going to have to be pushed, he's clearly a laid back kid but you see the tools to be very good.
This is why i do not want reddish, he has that same all the talent in the world but sometimes looks lazy type of talk about him...
Hard to have 2 of those type of guys
Yet they want to ship off 20 year old Ntilikina?
How about Fizdale actually deploying some sort of offense and see if Frank can excel in that. Having Frank just stand in the corner while watching Burke or Zo dribble the air out of the ball does shit for Frank and his development.
I have a feeling he signs a 1 year deal and becomes a free agent and leaves..
Deadline should be coming up soon, i wonder if that is why frank rumors have started..
I dont think they are letting Trier go, it should only cost around $3 mil a year to keep him. He has too much potential to let him go for such a small amount of money.
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a 4 year deal similar to robinson's deal...
I have a feeling he signs a 1 year deal and becomes a free agent and leaves..
Deadline should be coming up soon, i wonder if that is why frank rumors have started..
I dont think they are letting Trier go, it should only cost around $3 mil a year to keep him. He has too much potential to let him go for such a small amount of money.
i am not saying it will be knicks choice
Yet they want to ship off 20 year old Ntilikina?
How about Fizdale actually deploying some sort of offense and see if Frank can excel in that. Having Frank just stand in the corner while watching Burke or Zo dribble the air out of the ball does shit for Frank and his development.
Fizdale has an offense. It's a lot more likely that Frank just isn't a good offensive player. He's not aggressive or decisive enough, and that has to apparently be constantly dragged out of him.