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Anakim : 12/4/2018 4:07 pm
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Sources: The #Bills just released veteran WR Andre Holmes and WR Kelvin Benjamin.
are in-season cuts on the rise  
Rocky369 : 12/4/2018 4:11 pm : link
this year for some reason?
Was Benjamin  
jtfuoco : 12/4/2018 4:12 pm : link
a DG pick?
RE: Was Benjamin  
Anakim : 12/4/2018 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14205651 jtfuoco said:
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a DG pick?


Yep
RE: Was Benjamin  
Milton : 12/4/2018 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14205651 jtfuoco said:
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a DG pick?
Yup, first round.
RE: are in-season cuts on the rise  
UConn4523 : 12/4/2018 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14205648 Rocky369 said:
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this year for some reason?


I think there’s just more incentive to go to the younger, hungrier, healthier players these days even if the talent is less than the guy who’s being replaced.
RE: are in-season cuts on the rise  
Anakim : 12/4/2018 4:13 pm : link
In comment 14205648 Rocky369 said:
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this year for some reason?



I think it's about getting younger and seeing what players they have on their roster
do they have to pass through waivers?  
Tom from LI : 12/4/2018 4:17 pm : link
or are these guys free to sign where ever?
he is the big wr that we need  
superspynyg : 12/4/2018 4:17 pm : link
to go opposite of OBJ with Shep in the Slot.

But im not sure he would be a good fit.
Would be a bad signing.  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/4/2018 4:19 pm : link
Just give the reps to Fowler/Coleman.

...  
christian : 12/4/2018 4:19 pm : link
This absolutely the type of guy you take a flier on. If the Giants give Coleman a chance, you give Benjamin a chance.
He's horrid.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2018 4:20 pm : link
.
Remember when he was dogging Cam?  
Keith : 12/4/2018 4:22 pm : link
He mentioned Eli as a QB that would have helped his career.

That being said, Benjamin is injury prone, seems lazy and he's really not that good. Not to mention, the Eli he was referring to doesn't exist anymore.
I'm hardly a fan of Gettleman  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2018 4:25 pm : link
but this pick being a total bust is more on the player and his work ethic.

Though one can argue scouting should have covered that too.
RE: I'm hardly a fan of Gettleman  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 12/4/2018 4:27 pm : link
In comment 14205687 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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but this pick being a total bust is more on the player and his work ethic.

Though one can argue scouting should have covered that too.


Which should be something to evaluate in the drafting process.
RE: RE: I'm hardly a fan of Gettleman  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2018 4:32 pm : link
In comment 14205691 BigBlueDownTheShore said:
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In comment 14205687 Ten Ton Hammer said:


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but this pick being a total bust is more on the player and his work ethic.

Though one can argue scouting should have covered that too.



Which should be something to evaluate in the drafting process.


Very much agreed.

And considering they are developing a young QB to be their franchise, to have decided a 6'5 WR with nfl experience doesn't have a place is a pretty loud statement.
Watch him go to the Pats  
Mike from SI : 12/4/2018 4:40 pm : link
and actually care and be good now.
.  
Banks : 12/4/2018 4:40 pm : link
He was on fire his rookie year. He was banged up a lot, but still had 1k yds and 9 tds. Year 2 wasn't the leap I expected. He faded down the stretch and continued that decline. What a waste of talent
The guy has all the physical tools  
Mike from Ohio : 12/4/2018 4:40 pm : link
but even at FSU was very inconsistent. He would show up sometimes and just dominate, and other times just disappear. With him, I feel like it is just about dedication and effort which isn't going to necessarily get better with a new team.

The Giants are trying to get talent, but also build the right kind of team and culture. I don't think Benjamin fits what they are trying to become.
.  
arcarsenal : 12/4/2018 4:43 pm : link
Benjamin seems like a lazy player who isn't fully committed. If we're trying to change the culture here, this is probably a guy you pass on.
Sounds like  
mittenedman : 12/4/2018 4:54 pm : link
Plax
Benjamin..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/4/2018 4:55 pm : link
was very solid until he torn his ACL and meniscus. After that, he never has been the same player
Benjamin has been pretty much garbage for Buffalo.  
Red Dog : 12/4/2018 5:00 pm : link
And was not playing well for Carolina before that.

Don't even think about bringing him in. Drops waaay to many passes.

Stick a fork in him, he's DONE.
RE: RE: are in-season cuts on the rise  
CromartiesKid21 : 12/4/2018 5:39 pm : link
In comment 14205654 UConn4523 said:
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this year for some reason?



I think there’s just more incentive to go to the younger, hungrier, healthier players these days even if the talent is less than the guy who’s being replaced.


No one is hungrier than Kelvin
RE: RE: Was Benjamin  
DavidinBMNY : 12/4/2018 6:25 pm : link
In comment 14205652 Anakim said:
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a DG pick?



Yep


Interesting. DG should have a good sense on this guy. I don't see why we would make a move now. Feels more patriots-ish.
I actually thought Gettleman  
rasbutant : 12/4/2018 7:17 pm : link
Was going to trade for him this of season.

RE: he is the big wr that we need  
BillKo : 12/4/2018 7:43 pm : link
In comment 14205664 superspynyg said:
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to go opposite of OBJ with Shep in the Slot.

But im not sure he would be a good fit.


I am not sure if he's the guy, but he's the type of guy we need to add to compliment OBJ's on the outside, and Shep in the slot.

A big body WR has to be on the shopping list this offseason, whether draft or elsewhere.
FMIC and Arc....both valid points  
Bluesbreaker : 12/4/2018 7:49 pm : link
Throw in a bad work ethic and your out of football .
Seen other players with all the physical talent in the
world with short careers .
Sure bring him in for what ?
Sign him!  
B in ALB : 12/4/2018 7:49 pm : link
Sign EVERYBODY!!!


Some of you guys are hilarious.
RE: .  
Deejboy : 12/4/2018 8:18 pm : link
In comment 14205712 Banks said:
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He was on fire his rookie year. He was banged up a lot, but still had 1k yds and 9 tds. Year 2 wasn't the leap I expected. He faded down the stretch and continued that decline. What a waste of talent

Year 2 he tore his ACL in August and didn't play the whole year. That injury seemed to really kill him. He came back and had a good season in 2016, but he was never the same as before the injury.
Kick the tires?  
SterlingArcher : 12/4/2018 9:47 pm : link
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It can't hurt to bring him in for final 4 games  
Vanzetti : 12/4/2018 10:59 pm : link
I doubt he is so much of a problem that he will infect the team in only four weeks.

He is 6'5" 240 Lbs and his catch rate did improve each of his first three years. And sometimes guys take time to fully recover from an ACL.

No downside at this point in the season. Fowler is a JAG. Guys like Colemen and Benjamin are worth taking a look at imo.
I think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/5/2018 1:28 am : link
people really underestimate the impact a serious injury can have to certain players.

Benjamin had size and speed, and after the injury, he no longer had that advantage in speed. It made a guy who was close to elite and average player.

After seeing what devastating injuries did to Nicks, Cruz and Smith, we should understand that.
Coleman  
5BowlsSoon : 12/5/2018 5:30 am : link
I wonder if he will be given a chance to play a whole game or are his hands and brains not good enough.
RE: I think..  
mfsd : 12/5/2018 5:38 am : link
In comment 14206154 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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people really underestimate the impact a serious injury can have to certain players.

Benjamin had size and speed, and after the injury, he no longer had that advantage in speed. It made a guy who was close to elite and average player.

After seeing what devastating injuries did to Nicks, Cruz and Smith, we should understand that.


+1

Remember how ugly people were to Nicks over his last couple years when he failed to come back at his 2011 level?

People here bashed him for being lazy, a quitter, a piece of garbage, when in reality he just couldn’t playing at the same level after his leg injury.

RE: do they have to pass through waivers?  
Diver_Down : 12/5/2018 6:10 am : link
In comment 14205662 Tom from LI said:
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or are these guys free to sign where ever?


No one answered your question. Yes, after the trade deadline, all players must pass through waivers.
RE: RE: do they have to pass through waivers?  
Tom from LI : 12/5/2018 7:47 am : link
In comment 14206167 Diver_Down said:
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In comment 14205662 Tom from LI said:


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or are these guys free to sign where ever?



No one answered your question. Yes, after the trade deadline, all players must pass through waivers.


Thanks Diver Down!
He was great as a rookie, but tore his ACL and never recovered  
sb from NYT Forum : 12/5/2018 10:02 am : link
...His game was never speed, but it looks like his ACL injury robbed him of any athleticism he had.

I don't think he was a bad pick by Gettleman. The guy just got injured.
RE: I think..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2018 2:22 pm : link
In comment 14206154 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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people really underestimate the impact a serious injury can have to certain players.

Benjamin had size and speed, and after the injury, he no longer had that advantage in speed. It made a guy who was close to elite and average player.

After seeing what devastating injuries did to Nicks, Cruz and Smith, we should understand that.


Benjamin's injury is legitimate.

Benjamin showing up to training camp hideously out of shape isn't. The articles are there to be read.
I completely understand..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/5/2018 5:21 pm : link
the work ethic issues around Benjamin. I am in Carolina and saw the way he departed here.

What I'm saying is that the average fan just assumes all players recover completely from injuries. You take a guy with speed and height who loses one advantage, it quickly moves him from a very good player to a mediocre one.

He certainly didn't help himself out by the weight gain during his recovery, but there were other factors too, including the fact that he's never had the same explosion since the injury.
RE: I completely understand..  
Big Blue '56 : 12/5/2018 5:30 pm : link
In comment 14206921 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the work ethic issues around Benjamin. I am in Carolina and saw the way he departed here.

What I'm saying is that the average fan just assumes all players recover completely from injuries. You take a guy with speed and height who loses one advantage, it quickly moves him from a very good player to a mediocre one.

He certainly didn't help himself out by the weight gain during his recovery, but there were other factors too, including the fact that he's never had the same explosion since the injury.


Nicks would be a strong example of that re injury recovery
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