for display only
Big Blue Interactive The Corner Forum  
Back to the Corner

Archived Thread

I'm not sure this play is getting the credit it deserves

Ten Ton Hammer : 12/4/2018 6:05 pm


It's hard to catch the number of things that are impressive about it on just one or two rewatches so I cut it up into two



Some observations.

OL looked really sharp here, other than Pulley who got put face down on the turf. Brown was active and looking for someone to block, even Wheeler looked good.

Floyd gets taken out of the play by an alert Rhett Ellison block.

Danny Trevathan saw this play coming and really did his job well by setting the edge if Odell had actually tried to run the ball.

Khalil Mack might as well have been back on the bus for his impact on the play. I guess he was supposed to be in coverage but I don't know what he was doing.

That pass was thrown from the Giants 45 to the Bears 5 or 6 yard line and I really don't think he put all his arm in it.



Just a beautifully thrown football.

Agree this play was awesome  
giant24 : 12/4/2018 6:15 pm : link
and shows the amazing athletic abilities OBJ has. He threw that ball 50 yards all arm. He could probably throw a ball 70 yards with good form. Plus he showed tremendous poise while a defender was coming right at him. And Shephard on the backend actually making the catch - I gotta admit I thought he was going to drop it.
Shepherd Was Not the First Target  
Samiam : 12/4/2018 6:46 pm : link
Read somewhere that Fowler was the intended receiver. Shepherd saw the middle of the field wide open and broke off his pattern to go up the middle and Beckham found him. Amazing play
RE: Shepherd Was Not the First Target  
mrvax : 12/4/2018 6:59 pm : link
In comment 14205870 Samiam said:
Quote:
Read somewhere that Fowler was the intended receiver. Shepherd saw the middle of the field wide open and broke off his pattern to go up the middle and Beckham found him. Amazing play


Correct. Beckham said the original target was to be Fowler but a defender sniffed it out, Fowler was double covered but R.Shepard was left uncovered. Credit to Beckham to scan the field while defenders were ready to clobber him and make that perfect pass downfield for the TD. Amazing.

They should do this every game or so.
I thought that OBJ threw that one off his back foot  
Bill in UT : 12/4/2018 7:05 pm : link
at the time, but man, rewatching it, his form is really crap, lol. But it's still 6 points, right?
It was a great play...  
Dan in the Springs : 12/4/2018 7:09 pm : link
super-impressive. OBJ did what playmakers do - he made a play even if it was outside the design.

RE: OL

Not sure this is the best play to evaluate the OL. The whole reverse thing had most of the DL confused. It's so much easier to block when they aren't pinning their ears back after Eli. Several of the defenders had no idea where to go. As mentioned, Wheeler looked good, but honestly what was he really asked to do? OL looked good, but they weren't exactly stressed.
.  
Go Terps : 12/4/2018 7:16 pm : link
The impressive aspect was the patience and presence of mind to find the second receiver. You don't see that all that often from a non-QB. The throw itself is easy. I'm sure a lot of us could hit a wide open guy at 50 yards. I'm also sure Beckham can throw it a lot farther.

On the topic of throwing it far, it was interesting to to see that Cam Newton could not throw the ball 45 yards for an end of game Hail Mary, and had to be replaced by the backup for the second attempt. If I were Carolina's GM I'd be wondering how much longer Newton has, because his arm looks shot.
RE: .  
mittenedman : 12/4/2018 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14205890 Go Terps said:
Quote:
The impressive aspect was the patience and presence of mind to find the second receiver. You don't see that all that often from a non-QB. The throw itself is easy. I'm sure a lot of us could hit a wide open guy at 50 yards. I'm also sure Beckham can throw it a lot farther.

On the topic of throwing it far, it was interesting to to see that Cam Newton could not throw the ball 45 yards for an end of game Hail Mary, and had to be replaced by the backup for the second attempt. If I were Carolina's GM I'd be wondering how much longer Newton has, because his arm looks shot.


I didn't see that. That is very surprising. Saw the guy throw at Chelsea Piers before his draft, and it was amazing how the ball exploded out of his hand. Never seen anything like it.
Considering how well OBJ has chucked it this year...  
BillKo : 12/4/2018 7:41 pm : link
....I really think this kind of play - WR option - that should be on the table more than usual.

Maybe even something like our own version of the RPO....OBJ can either run it or chuck it based on what he sees. He obviously has the arm/touch/vision........
a question  
giantfan2000 : 12/4/2018 7:54 pm : link
doesn't anyone know where the radio call of this play is online?

Odell threw that ball with just his arm, no legs, hips, torso  
BSIMatt : 12/4/2018 7:56 pm : link
Twist...that’s kind of crazy.
RE: a question  
Dan in the Springs : 12/4/2018 8:00 pm : link
In comment 14205931 giantfan2000 said:
Quote:
doesn't anyone know where the radio call of this play is online?


It's available through GamePass, if you have a subscription. You could also sign up for a trial.

Not sure if you can find the radio call of a single play online, would be a good question for Google though.
OBJ's pass  
ColHowPepper : 12/4/2018 8:01 pm : link
Quote:
I really don't think he put all his arm in it.
Clearly not, he threw it off his front (right) foot and his ostensible plant (left) foot was in the air, best as I can see. Another QB doing that the pass would come up way short. Sheppard said in the post-game that OBJ can throw the ball really well. LOL Ya think?
or what BSI Matt  
ColHowPepper : 12/4/2018 8:02 pm : link
said
He flicked his wrist essentially.  
bradshaw44 : 12/4/2018 9:18 pm : link
That guy can throw it much further. They should use him on trick plays more.
I thought Eli’s throw on the two point conversion  
lono801 : 12/4/2018 10:39 pm : link
Was as brilliant...

That was one Hell of a blind toss
Probably not getting the talk it deserves because  
USAF NYG Fan : 12/5/2018 5:19 am : link
OBJ later made his business decision on Special Teams that would have closed out the game.

Nearly every game it seems he does something amazing and bad. He will make the incredible 1 handed catch but drop the easy one right over the shoulder. I'm not mad about it. We have to take the bad with the good. Just reminds me of someone else.

Actually, what I think isn't getting much talk about OBJ is he is not acting a fool in game anymore. After his TD, he tossed the ball to the ref. That's all I saw him do after his TD. Is it because of Barkley?
I would like to ruin Dallas's season with one of these  
Chris684 : 12/5/2018 8:26 am : link
in week 17.
He’s a sick athlete, straight up baller...  
trueblueinpw : 12/5/2018 9:01 am : link
How about the shimmy before his jump pass? This is gonna be on his highlight reel along with the one handed catch against Dallas and probably a few other unbelievable plays. He’s amazing.
RE: a question  
Dan in the Springs : 12/5/2018 9:31 am : link
In comment 14205931 giantfan2000 said:
Quote:
doesn't anyone know where the radio call of this play is online?


It's in the Sights and Sounds video.
RE: Probably not getting the talk it deserves because  
Dan in the Springs : 12/5/2018 9:33 am : link
In comment 14206157 USAF NYG Fan said:
Quote:
OBJ later made his business decision on Special Teams that would have closed out the game.

Nearly every game it seems he does something amazing and bad. He will make the incredible 1 handed catch but drop the easy one right over the shoulder. I'm not mad about it. We have to take the bad with the good. Just reminds me of someone else.

Actually, what I think isn't getting much talk about OBJ is he is not acting a fool in game anymore. After his TD, he tossed the ball to the ref. That's all I saw him do after his TD. Is it because of Barkley?


I have to think Barkley is in part the reason. He's a great role model for everyone on the team.
RE: He’s a sick athlete, straight up baller...  
RiffRaff : 12/5/2018 9:55 am : link
In comment 14206232 trueblueinpw said:
Quote:
How about the shimmy before his jump pass? This is gonna be on his highlight reel along with the one handed catch against Dallas and probably a few other unbelievable plays. He’s amazing.


I loved the shimmy he did before the pass because it froze the LB, who was coming at him. By doing that shimmy, the LB stopped his forward movement, which allowed OBJ to fling the pass to R Shepherd. It was a beautiful thing.
Sheoherd's post-game ...  
BronxBob : 12/5/2018 12:28 pm : link
... commentary on this in the locker room was pretty funny in spots. I should have known there'd be audio of that somewhere - and I'll add it to this post. I remember Gifford making throws with some regularity, and I found a video with some -- so I'll post that separately below.
Russell Shepherd 12/2 post-game interview - ( New Window )
Gifford highlights ...  
BronxBob : 12/5/2018 12:34 pm : link
At around 3:15 into this, he makes a few throws. The rest of it was just fun to watch.
5 minutes of Frank Gifford history and highlights - ( New Window )
Back to the Corner