Joel Sherman
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#Mets have indeed talked to #Marlins about Realmuto and are seriously considering Nimmo as a centerpiece. Nothing is considered imminent as Miami has suitors for Realmuto.
I WILL be sick if we trade Nimmo for Realmuto and I LOVE Realmuto.
This in addition to his injury history is why I would stay away from signing Pollock to a long term deal.
I like the idea of signing Cutch to a 2 year deal to play one of the corner OF spots. He is a right handed bat that will help balance out the lineup. I can live with Nimmo/Lagares in CF in 2019.
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Honestly, I feel like the Yankees win 90% of the trades they do so I don't really want any part of dealing with them.
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you guys think with BVW as GM he maybe able to convince the Wilpons to deal with the Yankees if it benefits them?
Honestly, I feel like the Yankees win 90% of the trades they do so I don't really want any part of dealing with them.
But yea, if there's another situation where we're out of the race and we end up taking less for Neil Walker or Lucas Duda or someone like that to avoid dealing with the Yankees, I hope BVW can just take the best deal.
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you guys think with BVW as GM he maybe able to convince the Wilpons to deal with the Yankees if it benefits them?
Honestly, I feel like the Yankees win 90% of the trades they do so I don't really want any part of dealing with them.
But yea, if there's another situation where we're out of the race and we end up taking less for Neil Walker or Lucas Duda or someone like that to avoid dealing with the Yankees, I hope BVW can just take the best deal.
Yeah, that was my point. I believe they could have possibly got more for Duda or maybe it was bruce in 2017.
C - Cervelli for Dom (Vargas back the other way to offset some $)
RP - Miller (3 years)
RP - 1 year vet mid reliever like brach
SP - Gio (2 years)
IMO that's the bare minimum and from the way they're talking I'd guess they'll end up doing better than that. Pollock is the obvious upgrade but he probably adds $10m this year + 2-3 extra years (and lose draft pick). Not sure he's worth the risk, especially if they have any confidence that Cespedes could actually come back 2nd half.
C - Cervelli for Dom (Vargas back the other way to offset some $)
RP - Miller (3 years)
RP - 1 year vet mid reliever like brach
SP - Gio (2 years)
IMO that's the bare minimum and from the way they're talking I'd guess they'll end up doing better than that. Pollock is the obvious upgrade but he probably adds $10m this year + 2-3 extra years (and lose draft pick). Not sure he's worth the risk, especially if they have any confidence that Cespedes could actually come back 2nd half.
Yeah I would but I could see the offense potentially struggling quite a bit. Also it looks like Hamilton may sign quickly (Royals have already spoken to him) so I'm not sure he's even going to be an option. Really like Cervelli.
Realmuto .279/.327/.442, 99 DRC+, 12 BWARP in 540 games
Grandal .240/.341/.441, 110 DRC+, 28.1/726
Ramos ,273/.317/.437, 102 DRC+, 19.7/760
Cervelli .273/.362/.383, 100 DRC+, 15.9/666
McNiel (3B)
Conforto (Corner Of)
Cano (2B)
Alonso (1B)
Grandal/Ramos/Cervelli (C)
Rosario (SS)
Lagares/Hamilton (CF)
Seems good enough to me. There's also room to improve it if Cespedes come back or at the trading deadline. Improving the OF defense will save some of the runs that we give back in the 8 hole. I guess Frazier will probably be in there a bit too, especially if Mets play service time with Alonso.
Realmuto .279/.327/.442, 99 DRC+, 12 BWARP in 540 games
Grandal .240/.341/.441, 110 DRC+, 28.1/726
Ramos ,273/.317/.437, 102 DRC+, 19.7/760
Cervelli .273/.362/.383, 100 DRC+, 15.9/666
I'm not shocked to see Grandal do better in DRC+, it seems to value HR hitters and lower the value on more contact oriented hitters. Haven't fully absorbed the entire methodology yet but initially it seems to boost the types of hitters I generally don't love. On the leaderboard of players whose rankings dropped the most from their OPS rank to their DRC+ rank were Cain, Cano, Yelich (3x), Jacque Jones. Even Machado one season. Meanwhile on the flip side the guys who got helped by it were Brian McCann, Alfonzo (oddly 2 of his SF seasons), Ricky Henderson in all years he hit .240 or less, Mcgwire + Texeira in years they were around .200.
McNiel (3B)
Conforto (Corner Of)
Cano (2B)
Alonso (1B)
Grandal/Ramos/Cervelli (C)
Rosario (SS)
Lagares/Hamilton (CF)
Seems good enough to me. There's also room to improve it if Cespedes come back or at the trading deadline. Improving the OF defense will save some of the runs that we give back in the 8 hole. I guess Frazier will probably be in there a bit too, especially if Mets play service time with Alonso.
I generally agree. Only change I'd make is moving a righty (probably Rosario) up the 2 spot to not start L-L-L-L and move McNeil down to 6th behind Alonso (or Frazier to start the year) and the catcher to 7th to split up L/R more.
Cleveland signed Carlos Carrasco to a 4 year extension. The deal will pay him the same $9.75 million his 2019 option had paid, will increase his now-torn-up 2020 option to $10.25 from $9.5 million and will pay him $12 million in both 2021 and 2022. The option for 2023 is worth $14 million and comes with a $3 million buyout.
I don't like anything from Martino, Cerrone or ex-Mets employees (Phillips, Duquette, Fisher included) defending a team with 2 recent winning seasons). But other than Cerrone not everything someone I disagree with is wrong on everything.
what kind of prospects do you think it takes? The price should be pretty nuts...do the Mets even have it without Kelenic?
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I'd be all about Kluber for prospects. The rotation would be the best in baseball and give you a real chance to do some damage with minimal lineup additions. Might be the cheapest route to being contenders
what kind of prospects do you think it takes? The price should be pretty nuts...do the Mets even have it without Kelenic?
Oh probably not. My point is Kluber would be the target for me if we were giving up prospects. Much, much prefer say Grandal or Ramos or Cervelli + Kluber vs. Realmuto and a guy like Brantley.
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I'd be all about Kluber for prospects. The rotation would be the best in baseball and give you a real chance to do some damage with minimal lineup additions. Might be the cheapest route to being contenders
what kind of prospects do you think it takes? The price should be pretty nuts...do the Mets even have it without Kelenic?
Oh probably not. My point is Kluber would be the target for me if we were giving up prospects. Much, much prefer say Grandal or Ramos or Cervelli + Kluber vs. Realmuto and a guy like Brantley.
Spitballing here.
With Nimmo's name being thrown out for Realmuto, would you do:
One of the catchers, + Kluber + Pollack if it means trading Nimmo, Giminez + ?
Ken Rosenthal
Verified account @Ken_Rosenthal
Jared Banner will be the #Mets new farm director, sources tell The Athletic. Previously was #RedSox VP of player personnel. Dombrowski revealed yesterday that Banner was leaving Boston organization.
11:40 AM - 7 Dec 2018
Ken Rosenthal
Verified account @Ken_Rosenthal
Jared Banner will be the #Mets new farm director, sources tell The Athletic. Previously was #RedSox VP of player personnel. Dombrowski revealed yesterday that Banner was leaving Boston organization.
11:40 AM - 7 Dec 2018
Great hire. Future GM type. Grew up a Mets fan.
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joining the Mets FO:
Ken Rosenthal
Verified account @Ken_Rosenthal
Jared Banner will be the #Mets new farm director, sources tell The Athletic. Previously was #RedSox VP of player personnel. Dombrowski revealed yesterday that Banner was leaving Boston organization.
11:40 AM - 7 Dec 2018
Great hire. Future GM type. Grew up a Mets fan.
Brodie is putting together a good organization.
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joining the Mets FO:
Ken Rosenthal
Verified account @Ken_Rosenthal
Jared Banner will be the #Mets new farm director, sources tell The Athletic. Previously was #RedSox VP of player personnel. Dombrowski revealed yesterday that Banner was leaving Boston organization.
11:40 AM - 7 Dec 2018
Great hire. Future GM type. Grew up a Mets fan.
Brodie is putting together a good organization.
Great article about Jared Banner and a little about Baird. Both great recent hires by the Mets. Best thing about Banner is he is a Mets fan and a Red Sox fan. Why a Red Sox fan? Like a true Mets fan, he hates the Yankees. Sorry about that Yankee fans.
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Still don't want to trade for Realmuto under just about any circumstance. He turned down a 4/64m offer from the Marlins and countered with a 5 year deal over $100m, so I fail to see how it's worth trading for him and spending that much more in $ than Grandal.
Love Rosario and hate selling low but Id probably do it. Id give Cecchini a shot until Gimenez is ready.
Love Rosario and hate selling low but Id probably do it. Id give Cecchini a shot until Gimenez is ready.
This is not good news. I dont like Cecchini to play SS. The Mets would have to get a low hit great fielding shortstop in the interim until Gimenez is ready. Does this mean both Rosario and Nimmo?
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On the table for Realmuto.
Love Rosario and hate selling low but Id probably do it. Id give Cecchini a shot until Gimenez is ready.
This is not good news. I dont like Cecchini to play SS. The Mets would have to get a low hit great fielding shortstop in the interim until Gimenez is ready. Does this mean both Rosario and Nimmo?
No it does not mean Rosario and Nimmo. Rosario is the headline in the deal per recent Twitter whispers. I mean, if you had Cecchini in the 8th hole is it really going to kill you? We also have Guillorme if you wanted more D and maybe Gimenez is up towards the end. You could sign Iglesias for cheap too.
I would still just skip Realmuto though and see if I could get Simmons for Rosario, then add a catcher like Cervelli and keep Nimmo. If you add Simmons you can probably afford to go with an all D no bat CF like Hamilton as opposed to Pollock.
Nimmo
Simmons
Conforto
Cano
Frazier / Alonso
McNeil
Cervelli
Hamilton / Lagares
Not too shabby. Just about everyone in that lineup other than Alonso is a plus defender and you've got gold gloves at the 2 most premium positions.
Klaw: No, he got much worse, and I think hes a 2b only.
Realmuto, Puig, and Miller would be a sweet offseason finish IMO.
I like Puig a lot more than Pollock.
Realmuto, Puig, and Miller would be a sweet offseason finish IMO.
I like Puig a lot more than Pollock.
Puig is really underrated. Would love to add him.
same
I am hoping that the Braves move on as well. I hate the idea of giving up two top 3 prospects for 2 years of a catcher who isn't a good pitch framer.
Puig will require prospects and even though he is still under team control for two more seasons he's already making north of $10M in 2019.
I get OF vs IF, but Machado costs only money and the Mets could still use a 3B. If Puig were a legit CFer I could maybe buy it, but he's not.
Obviously it's more competitive to get the better players bc they are in higher demand so there's more risk. We had to give up a lot for Diaz so it was a risk compared to getting any FA closer. But I respect how BVW is exploring and prioritizing acquiring top players. Just disagree with any assessment that Realmuto is worth significantly more than someone like Grandal. That difference is far less in $ cost and far more in trade cost as compared to Diaz vs. FA closers. Hopefully someone else swoops in and he can just move on to his next target.
4. Mets Sign A.J. Pollock, Andrew Miller, Martin Maldonado
The romance is on between Brodie Van Wagenen and the Wilpons, meaning he'll have freedom to raise the payroll, perhaps to the $170-$180 million level. And these three free agents would fill holes nicely.
Two of them come with injury concerns, but as a right-handed-hitting CF, Pollock is a perfect fit, and the addition of Edwin Diaz gives the Mets room to gamble on Miller's dominance when healthy. Finally, Maldonado makes sense as a defense-first catcher for a team whose success will depend mostly on its starting pitching.
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