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NGT: GB fires Associate Head Coach after Aaron Rodger tweet

Britt in VA : 12/5/2018 9:25 am
Here's the tweet:

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Winston Moss
@Insanecane99
Ponder this... what Championship teams have are great leadership! Period! Itís not the offensive guru trend, itís not the safe trend. Find somebody that is going to hold #12 and everybody in this building to a #LombardiStandard! Period! #losingsucks!


Here's the article:

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GREEN BAY, Wis. ó The Green Bay Packers dismissed Winston Moss, the associate head coach in charge of linebackers and a 13-year veteran of the staff , hours after a tweet about star quarterback Aaron Rodgers.


Packers fire associate head coach Winston Moss after tweet about Aaron Rodgers - ( New Window )
But Aaron  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/5/2018 9:27 am : link
Rodgers won't have input in who we hire as coach! - Packers Front office.


riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight....
Twitter...  
bradshaw44 : 12/5/2018 9:27 am : link
The Russian roulette of society.
That was an incredibly stupid thing to write in public  
Essex : 12/5/2018 9:29 am : link
but I think he is right on the substance.
what a dumb ass thing to tweet  
Jints in Carolina : 12/5/2018 9:31 am : link
some people never learn!

Having said that, Aaron Rodgers is an asshole.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/5/2018 9:31 am : link
Idiotic to post that on Twitter. You'd think he'd have more common sense.
Always sleep on it  
spike : 12/5/2018 9:33 am : link
Before tweeting.

Internet is forever
Stupid thing to tweet  
Jay on the Island : 12/5/2018 9:36 am : link
But Rodgers must be a complete ass for Moss to post this on twitter knowing full well the backlash he would receive.
Looks like Aaron Rodgers is cleaning house over there....  
Britt in VA : 12/5/2018 9:36 am : link
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RE: Always sleep on it  
bradshaw44 : 12/5/2018 9:37 am : link
In comment 14206291 spike said:
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Before tweeting.

Internet is forever



I'll do you one better. Don't tweet. Especially when referring to a coworker/employee.
When are people going to learn  
Gman11 : 12/5/2018 9:41 am : link
that posting shit on social media is dangerous to their jobs.
RE: When are people going to learn  
Jints in Carolina : 12/5/2018 9:42 am : link
In comment 14206308 Gman11 said:
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that posting shit on social media is dangerous to their jobs.


I do enjoy a good train wreck though.
...  
christian : 12/5/2018 9:42 am : link
That is a fine way to get let go of with your full salary and get a jump on your next gig with Mike M.
$20 says this was to  
section125 : 12/5/2018 9:44 am : link
back McCarthy and he felt he had to stand up for the rest of the coaches.

Sad that a QB has that much influence over the coaching staff.
Either Moss is a complete and utter moron  
giants#1 : 12/5/2018 9:46 am : link
or:

1. He knew this would get him fired and felt it was worth tweeting in 'defense' of McCarthy anyway
2. Has a job lined up with McCarthy wherever he ends up
Did he actually blame Twitter  
Mr. Bungle : 12/5/2018 9:47 am : link
in his follow-up tweet about being let go?!

Hahahaha
Wait a sec - is someone implying that Rodgers had him fired  
jcn56 : 12/5/2018 9:48 am : link
for this?

This doesn't seem like an extraordinary act of stupidity or a deliberate attempt to get let go?

George Costanza doing donuts with the WS trophy was the pre-Twitter equivalent.
I'm curious to know if Rodgers  
bradshaw44 : 12/5/2018 9:49 am : link
bothered going to McCarthy during the week or even in training camp and see if they could get on the same page. It seems careless for both of them to not try and work together.

I saw an old NFLN special a few years ago about BB and Brady and it showed how much time they spent together 1 on 1 in BB's office going over film together. Why wouldn't these two try and have a meeting of minds instead of backstabbing like a couple of teenagers?
I would guess that Winston had likely  
Diver_Down : 12/5/2018 9:52 am : link
made his opinion known behind closed doors for some time. With the realization that he is likely gone at the end of the season when a new regime is installed, he chose the timing now, to make his opinion public. He was going to be fired either way. It is just a matter of now or in 4 weeks. If he made a comment in 4 weeks, it would be dismissed as a disgruntled employee. By posting the comment now, it gives a bit of insight that perhaps there has been some organizational pandering to Rodgers and holding him to a different standard than others.

Fun to watch  
Harvest Blend : 12/5/2018 9:53 am : link
GB implode mainly because I have a few friends/acquaintances that were all of a sudden GB fans starting in the mid to late 90's. Also because Rodgers seems to act like a prick and Favre was a prick.
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Banks : 12/5/2018 10:07 am : link
Wise move by a lame duck coach looking for employment next year. The guy has been interviewed for head coaching jobs recently. This is minor, but in a role where good decisions are crucial he just made a dumb one publicly
Aaron Rodgers  
Rflairr : 12/5/2018 10:11 am : link
ďHire McAdoo as CoachĒ
...  
Mdgiantsfan : 12/5/2018 10:16 am : link
Question for those that say it was stupid to post but agree with what was tweeted, if you were in charge would you have fired Moss?
RE: ...  
jcn56 : 12/5/2018 10:25 am : link
In comment 14206382 Mdgiantsfan said:
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Question for those that say it was stupid to post but agree with what was tweeted, if you were in charge would you have fired Moss?


Of course. That's the kind of stuff you want everyone to keep in house. With players, it's tricky because they're a lot harder to replace. With a member of the coaching staff, who's easier to replace and is supposed to be held to a higher standard? No doubt about it.
RE: Twitter...  
ZogZerg : 12/5/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 14206275 bradshaw44 said:
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The Russian roulette of society.


LOL.

And, I don't understand what he's trying to say.
RE: Stupid thing to tweet  
djstat : 12/5/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 14206294 Jay on the Island said:
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But Rodgers must be a complete ass for Moss to post this on twitter knowing full well the backlash he would receive.
Rodgers own family no longer like him
Yeah  
Les in TO : 12/5/2018 10:48 am : link
An assistant coach pulling a jerry maguire rant, calling out a player like that on social media is career suicide.
RE: ...  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2018 10:51 am : link
In comment 14206382 Mdgiantsfan said:
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Question for those that say it was stupid to post but agree with what was tweeted, if you were in charge would you have fired Moss?


Absolutely. When you go public with that kind of criticism of your employer or other employees, you need to be fired. It does not matter at all if the criticism is valid or not.

If you have something to say, go to management. If they ignore you then you can choose to deal with it or leave. But this is not some kind of corporate whistleblower who deserves respect for speaking up.
Should he not be fired?  
Mike in Long Beach : 12/5/2018 10:53 am : link
If a player.. say Sterling Shepard, got on Twitter and started taking shots at Eli and saying the staff isn't holding him accountable, you would be OK with that? Only different is, this isn't a 25 year old receiver. It's a coach and supposed leader who should know better.
Why tweet?  
Giantophile : 12/5/2018 10:53 am : link
If you have a high profile job you have so much to lose and so little to gain.

If you really need to vent-find a wife, a friend a shrink or a dog. Jeez.
Also, pretty crappy thread title, Britt  
Mike in Long Beach : 12/5/2018 10:55 am : link
You made it seem like Rodgers made a negative comment about a coach in a tweet and then the coach was let go. You should've just gone with something closer to the actual headline of the article you shared: Packers fire associate head coach Winston Moss after tweet about Aaron Rodgers
The thread title is just an abbreviated version of the title of the  
Britt in VA : 12/5/2018 10:59 am : link
article, which I copied and pasted into the link.
RE: Also, pretty crappy thread title, Britt  
YAJ2112 : 12/5/2018 11:10 am : link
In comment 14206458 Mike in Long Beach said:
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You made it seem like Rodgers made a negative comment about a coach in a tweet and then the coach was let go. You should've just gone with something closer to the actual headline of the article you shared: Packers fire associate head coach Winston Moss after tweet about Aaron Rodgers


well, at least the coach wasn't fired 3 years ago.
How is everyone tying this firing to Rodgers?  
schabadoo : 12/5/2018 11:24 am : link
Who wouldn't fire this guy?

Whining about Lombardi standard while coaching on that D for years...how about the plank in your own eye?
Where there's smoke, there's fire...  
Britt in VA : 12/5/2018 11:27 am : link
and everybody and their mother have been coming out of the woodwork smearing Rodgers since McCarthy got fired.
Doesn't  
mitch300 : 12/5/2018 11:28 am : link
he still get paid for the season. Are coaches salaries guaranteed thru the contract?
The Associate Head Coach  
PaulBlakeTSU : 12/5/2018 11:57 am : link
just trashed the organization and the franchise QB in one tweet. This was suicide-by-cop.
RE: Where there's smoke, there's fire...  
jcn56 : 12/5/2018 12:25 pm : link
In comment 14206489 Britt in VA said:
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and everybody and their mother have been coming out of the woodwork smearing Rodgers since McCarthy got fired.


C'mon, for someone who spends a lot of time bemoaning the hit jobs by the media, that doesn't fly.

So when everyone ran around posting articles from unnamed sources and scouts about how Eli was done, was there smoke there as well?

I'm sure there's a good chance Rodgers is a grade A asshole. At the same time, he had a borderline incompetent coach for some time now, and everyone knew it. They've underperformed yet again, and the coach got the axe. Given that it was rumored that he and Rodgers weren't seeing eye to eye, articles smearing Rodgers are easily written and draw a lot of eyeballs for the media, right up their alley.
I love how some are putting this on Arod.  
Keith : 12/5/2018 12:28 pm : link
The coach probably had a good relationship with McCarthy and went down with him. Just stupid on the coaches part, but how does this have anything to do with Arod? Did he call ownership to point out the tweet and suggest they fire him?
Just to clarify...  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2018 1:32 pm : link
The Associate Head Coach was in no way, shape or form fired because of anything Aaron Rodgers did. He was fired by the organization for a stupid tweet in which he mentioned Aaron Rodgers.

Rodgers may or may not be an asshole, but "Aaron Rodgers got this guy fired" is an incorrect interpretation of this story. The associate coach got fired because he is an idiot.
RE: RE: Also, pretty crappy thread title, Britt  
bradshaw44 : 12/5/2018 2:05 pm : link
In comment 14206473 YAJ2112 said:
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In comment 14206458 Mike in Long Beach said:


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You made it seem like Rodgers made a negative comment about a coach in a tweet and then the coach was let go. You should've just gone with something closer to the actual headline of the article you shared: Packers fire associate head coach Winston Moss after tweet about Aaron Rodgers



well, at least the coach wasn't fired 3 years ago.



LOL
So Rodgers is an asshole ...  
MetsAreBack : 12/5/2018 3:10 pm : link
Because after 1 title in 13 years despite his incredible individual numbers - he may have gotten a head coach fired?

That makes no sense. It's a business and I don't blame Rodgers for wanting to try something new. The analogy to Brady and BB is irrelevant since those two have 5 titles and 8 Super Bowl appearances.

This assistant coach deserved his dismissal. And who are all these people coming out of the woodwork about AR? We have one felon TE and a couple of McCarthys friends... that's not everyone or even close to it
Rodgers is such a Dou--e Bag  
Vanzetti : 12/5/2018 3:58 pm : link
And that more than anything else is why he has only one championship, despite his talent.

What coach is going to join an organization where the inmates run the asylum? I predict Ben McAdoo will be the next coach because nobody with a proven track record is going to join an organization where the star player calls the shots.
RE: Rodgers is such a Dou--e Bag  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2018 4:03 pm : link
In comment 14206814 Vanzetti said:
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And that more than anything else is why he has only one championship, despite his talent.


So only those of pure heart win multiple Superbowls? Interesting take.

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What coach is going to join an organization where the inmates run the asylum? I predict Ben McAdoo will be the next coach because nobody with a proven track record is going to join an organization where the star player calls the shots.


Yeah, what coach would want to take over a team with a HoF QB in his prime signed long term? They'd be lucky to get a special teams coordinator from D-3 school.
Bruce Arians said this morning he has zero interest in Green Bay....  
Britt in VA : 12/5/2018 4:04 pm : link
but would interview for Cleveland.
RE: Bruce Arians said this morning he has zero interest in Green Bay....  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2018 4:08 pm : link
In comment 14206822 Britt in VA said:
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but would interview for Cleveland.


Cleveland has a ton of young talent on both sides of the ball. That team isn't far from being good.
NFL at its best  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/5/2018 4:12 pm : link
A soap opera for men. Where's my popcorn.
RE: The thread title is just an abbreviated version of the title of the  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/5/2018 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14206464 Britt in VA said:
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article, which I copied and pasted into the link.

Journalism today is clickbait. Scum.
RE: Bruce Arians said this morning he has zero interest in Green Bay....  
FStubbs : 12/5/2018 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14206822 Britt in VA said:
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but would interview for Cleveland.


Cleveland is an up and coming team, and everyone knows right now who is running the show in Green Bay.

Winston Moss tweeted this knowing Aaron Rodgers would fire him for it.
Aaron Rodgers didn't fire him!  
Milton : 12/5/2018 5:35 pm : link
Any owner/GM would fire a coach for tweeting that, regardless of the QB's input or lack thereof.
Forget what you think of Aaron Rodgers  
Milton : 12/5/2018 5:37 pm : link
Wouldn't you fire a coach for tweeting that if you were the owner or GM?
RE: So Rodgers is an asshole ...  
Les in TO : 12/5/2018 5:38 pm : link
In comment 14206766 MetsAreBack said:
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Because after 1 title in 13 years despite his incredible individual numbers - he may have gotten a head coach fired?

That makes no sense. It's a business and I don't blame Rodgers for wanting to try something new. The analogy to Brady and BB is irrelevant since those two have 5 titles and 8 Super Bowl appearances.

This assistant coach deserved his dismissal. And who are all these people coming out of the woodwork about AR? We have one felon TE and a couple of McCarthys friends... that's not everyone or even close to it
itís the usual spin by the usual
BBI suspects
Again - Aaron Rodgers did not have this coach fired  
Mike from Ohio : 12/5/2018 5:55 pm : link
This coach committed career suicide by taking organizational business to twitter. Any coach in any sport doing this should have and likely would have been fired.

The inference that Rodgers had this guy fired is completely false and intentionally misleading.
RE: Bruce Arians said this morning he has zero interest in Green Bay....  
MetsAreBack : 12/6/2018 12:10 am : link
In comment 14206822 Britt in VA said:
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but would interview for Cleveland.


Well then... case closed. Bruce Arians said so.
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