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bumpsinthenight : 12/5/2018 11:30 am
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I'm told #Giants S Landon Collins (shoulder) is going to IR. He will need surgery. The procedure will likely be next week, per source.

Twitter Josina Anderson - ( New Window )
Itís per the Giants  
GiantGolfer : 12/5/2018 11:31 am : link
Not Josina Anderson.
Shame...  
Dnew15 : 12/5/2018 11:33 am : link
I like Collins as a player.
He's about to get paid (possibly) - tough time to come down with an injury.
His off season maybe one of the most interesting, not just on the NYG, but the whole NFL.
I'm sure that there are a lot of safetys in the NFL watching to see what happens with him.
RE: Itís per the Giants  
bumpsinthenight : 12/5/2018 11:34 am : link
In comment 14206502 GiantGolfer said:
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Not Josina Anderson.


Nope Wrong... this is what the Giants tweeted

'Coach Shurmur: Landon Collins has a shoulder injury that will most likely require surgery. Itís not final yet. Weíve been getting it evaluated for the past couple of days.'
https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1070350069982027776 - ( New Window )
RE: Shame...  
Rjanyg : 12/5/2018 11:39 am : link
In comment 14206506 Dnew15 said:
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I like Collins as a player.
He's about to get paid (possibly) - tough time to come down with an injury.
His off season maybe one of the most interesting, not just on the NYG, but the whole NFL.
I'm sure that there are a lot of safetys in the NFL watching to see what happens with him.


Giants can tag him
Collins  
Giants : 12/5/2018 11:50 am : link
is good defending the run and terrible in coverage. Would like to see the Giants bring him back but it needs to be a team friendly contract
We always  
The Dude : 12/5/2018 11:53 am : link
want out guys on "team friendly" contracts, never seen a guy i didn't want on one of those.

The safety market was bare last offseason, however landon is a household name around the league. It'll be interesting...i'm sure if he gets to be a free agent he'll get paid way more than the rebuilding giants would like to pay him
RE: RE: Shame...  
ThatLimerickGuy : 12/5/2018 12:31 pm : link
In comment 14206516 Rjanyg said:
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In comment 14206506 Dnew15 said:


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I like Collins as a player.
He's about to get paid (possibly) - tough time to come down with an injury.
His off season maybe one of the most interesting, not just on the NYG, but the whole NFL.
I'm sure that there are a lot of safetys in the NFL watching to see what happens with him.



Giants can tag him


Why in the world would you tag Landon Collins, who is a shoulder tackler, coming off a major shoulder injury which requires surgery, at 12 million dollars?
Maybe he's her source for all the Giants things she tweets about  
moespree : 12/5/2018 12:41 pm : link
She appears to have had a source on the inside last season. Maybe it was him.
RE: RE: Itís per the Giants  
GiantGolfer : 12/5/2018 12:45 pm : link
In comment 14206508 bumpsinthenight said:
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In comment 14206502 GiantGolfer said:


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Not Josina Anderson.



Nope Wrong... this is what the Giants tweeted

'Coach Shurmur: Landon Collins has a shoulder injury that will most likely require surgery. Itís not final yet. Weíve been getting it evaluated for the past couple of days.' https://twitter.com/Giants/status/1070350069982027776 - ( New Window )


So you are quoting speculation from Anderson as fact, instead of posting what Shurmur actually said in your OP?

Got it.
time to move on  
giantsFC : 12/5/2018 1:06 pm : link
Giants don't need him during this era of restructure. Money should be used elsewhere.

Their defense needs an identify first and then they can start paying high prices for players. Defense looks a mess. No pass rushers or any type of fierceness.

Collins isn't a "generational" talent.
I think that we've seen the last of Landon Collins in a Giants Jersey  
Hammer : 12/5/2018 1:06 pm : link
Someone is going to pay him more than an "in-the-box" safety is worth.
Landon Collins  
Dnew15 : 12/5/2018 1:22 pm : link
had a legit NFL defensive player of the year campaign under his belt from 2016.
Someone is going to think they can get that out of him again and be willing to pay for it.
Makes me wonder if he injured  
Bubba : 12/5/2018 1:23 pm : link
before last week and played to play through it.
Collins  
mittenedman : 12/5/2018 1:24 pm : link
may have more value to a cover 2 scheme - perfect SS

That's not going to be here.
The last image of him as a Giant  
SHO'NUFF : 12/5/2018 1:59 pm : link
will be of him looking like a lost buffoon on that Cohen catch.
It's a weird poison how quickly fans turn on their own players.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2018 2:06 pm : link
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Shoulder Thrower  
Jim Bur(n)t : 12/5/2018 2:14 pm : link
Now with a bad shoulder... Should have taken the 3rd Rder from KC
Damn shame  
mfsd : 12/5/2018 2:16 pm : link
Weíve discussed his coverage limitations as nauseum, but heís always seemed to be a guy who plays as hard as he can

I also agree with those saying letís not pay a premium to bring him back
Iíd rather pay  
WillVAB : 12/5/2018 2:16 pm : link
Earl Thomas in FA than Collins.
RE: It's a weird poison how quickly fans turn on their own players.  
jtfuoco : 12/5/2018 2:35 pm : link
In comment 14206688 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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That is just the nature of the salary Cap era you have to get the most for the money. Also as a fan why get emotionally invested in a player that can just walk somewhere else for more money
I think if you watch a lot of NFL games, Collins is not  
jcp56 : 12/5/2018 3:00 pm : link
someone you break the bank for. It's a passing league and he's a liability in coverage.

Compare him to our own last free agent safety -- Antrell Rolle. Rolle was a much better all around safety. Where the next 'trell at?
well  
giantfan2000 : 12/5/2018 3:01 pm : link
all your collins haters will see how valuable he is to defense for the rest of the season ..

should be interesting to see if Defense will get worse or stay the same
Collins having surgery today  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/5/2018 3:27 pm : link
will need 4-6 months recovery time according to Stapleton
oh  
gidiefor : Mod : 12/5/2018 3:27 pm : link
they are repairing torn labrium in his shoulder
RE: I think if you watch a lot of NFL games, Collins is not  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2018 3:33 pm : link
In comment 14206756 jcp56 said:
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someone you break the bank for. It's a passing league and he's a liability in coverage.

Compare him to our own last free agent safety -- Antrell Rolle. Rolle was a much better all around safety. Where the next 'trell at?


Rolle was a converted Cornerback, so it bears out, yeah.
If his recovery takes until next June (6 months)  
WillieYoung : 12/5/2018 3:33 pm : link
He will be back on a 1 year prove it deal. He's not getting big money in free agency before medical clearance and he's not missing an off-season with a new defense and getting 1 year money comparable to what we can offer him.
RE: RE: It's a weird poison how quickly fans turn on their own players.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/5/2018 3:37 pm : link
In comment 14206730 jtfuoco said:
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That is just the nature of the salary Cap era you have to get the most for the money. Also as a fan why get emotionally invested in a player that can just walk somewhere else for more money


I think we pick and choose what players to get emotionally invested in. And also, every time a player contract comes up, fans get upset at the idea of contracts that don't even exist yet. Nobody here has any idea what his salary would be. He's said nothing. For some reason there's an assumption that he's going to be a huge contract, yet we're ripping him for the things we've known since game 1 of his career he doesn't do well.

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RE: well  
ThatLimerickGuy : 12/5/2018 4:16 pm : link
In comment 14206760 giantfan2000 said:
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all your collins haters will see how valuable he is to defense for the rest of the season ..

should be interesting to see if Defense will get worse or stay the same


Nobody hates Collins.

By all accounts he is a good player, good teammate and good person.

Saying that is isn't a wise use of a resources to pay Landon Collins like a top 5 safety in 2019 (by using the franchise tag) is not the same as being a "hater".

RE: If his recovery takes until next June (6 months)  
Diver_Down : 12/5/2018 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14206783 WillieYoung said:
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He will be back on a 1 year prove it deal. He's not getting big money in free agency before medical clearance and he's not missing an off-season with a new defense and getting 1 year money comparable to what we can offer him.


This is 100% correct.
Decisions, decisions  
Carson53 : 12/5/2018 7:18 pm : link
on this player, I don't know, I have mixed feelings on him.
I know he brings toughness, and plays hard, but..
Not sure we've seen the last of him in a Giants uni  
Stu11 : 12/5/2018 7:56 pm : link
That recovery time takes him well into the offseason and past free agency. I could see him coming back on a 1 year show me type of deal. Who's shelling out a ton of guaranteed $ for him in the condition he'll be in when everyone is shelling it out.
I hope they try to bring him back long term  
adamg : 12/5/2018 7:58 pm : link
He's a great SS
I hope this forces him to stop throwing  
SHO'NUFF : 12/5/2018 10:10 pm : link
his damn shoulder... who the fuck teaches that?
RE: RE: Shame...  
DavidinBMNY : 12/6/2018 7:54 am : link
In comment 14206516 Rjanyg said:
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I like Collins as a player.
He's about to get paid (possibly) - tough time to come down with an injury.
His off season maybe one of the most interesting, not just on the NYG, but the whole NFL.
I'm sure that there are a lot of safetys in the NFL watching to see what happens with him.



Giants can tag him


This would be a good use of a transition tag.

It's hard to commit a franchise tag to a player coming off injury. It's also unlikely he will sign early in FA, as the timing of this injury in December would push his recovery closed to May.

Collins probably would love to be tagged right now as a franchise tag.

I think when he is able to play to his strengths he is excellent but man coverage is not one of them.
Wow..  
Dnew15 : 12/6/2018 9:16 am : link
You don't think any team in the NFL is going to be willing to give LC a deal longer than one year?
I know the guy has limitations in the passing game, but he is an elite in the box safety who can make game-changing plays.
There is no doubt a team that thinks they are close will pay for that.
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