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NFT: famous people we miss... gone too soon

CardinalX : 12/5/2018 5:43 pm
i'll kick off with a few that came to mind for me:

Robin Williams
James Gandolfini
Jose Fernandez

going back historically, I could list a million more. i'm thinking more along the lines of...

boy, i miss the Sopranos. i hope they make a mov.. oh yeah, forgot "Tony" is dead.
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RE: George HW Bush  
kennyd : 12/5/2018 10:03 pm : link
In comment 14206949 spike said:
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RIP


Gone too soon? The man was 94
Janis Joplin and Billie Holiday  
BlueLou'sBack : 12/5/2018 11:09 pm : link
Charlie Parker...
As mentioned earlier,  
St. Jimmy : 12/5/2018 11:17 pm : link
Anthony Bourdain.

His shows were about the only non-sports related TV shows I regularly watched. His death felt like losing a friend. The only time that has happened for someone I didn't know.
Here is a few  
uconngiant : 12/5/2018 11:17 pm : link
Paul Walker speed kills
Jim Morrison my favorite as a youngster
Jim Belushi was so smart and funny
John Candy
JFK and no Johnson as president
MLK was a man that was needed in the early 70's and without him the country was missing something big.
Troy Archer could have been a great one
Len Bias as a Celtic fan he would have been the next great one and would have been the step between Bird and Pierce.
Elvis Presley  
Damon : 12/6/2018 12:33 am : link
Amy Winehouse
Vince Foster
RE: David Bowie  
bw in dc : 12/6/2018 12:55 am : link
In comment 14207034 Milton said:
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Philip Seymour Hoffman


I believe Hoffman is the greatest actor of the last 25 years. Guy was magical on screen.
RE: RE: David Bowie  
Milton : 12/6/2018 2:29 am : link
In comment 14207161 bw in dc said:
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In comment 14207034 Milton said:


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Philip Seymour Hoffman



I believe Hoffman is the greatest actor of the last 25 years. Guy was magical on screen.
No doubt!
"The only true currency in this bankrupt world is what you share with someone else when you're uncool." - ( New Window )
Philip Seymour Hoffman  
GeofromNJ : 12/6/2018 2:38 am : link
the best actor of the current generation
Chester Bennington  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/6/2018 5:29 am : link
dude had an amazing voice. Was all geared up to go see Linkin Park later that week.
If we are talking about entertainers..  
EricJ : 12/6/2018 7:11 am : link
Randy Rhoades
John Bonham
Layne Staley
Jimi Hendrix
John Tuggle

Of course as mentioned earlier, none of them are ahead of my father and grandparents.
James Dean  
Steve in South Jersey : 12/6/2018 7:21 am : link
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Milton  
joeinpa : 12/6/2018 7:39 am : link
Didn’t mean to derail the post

But it s hard to describe the sense of lost for many of us who lived through that era.

Bobby as well. They seem to symbolize the idea of “Gone too soon”
Darrell Abbott  
mgreenie03 : 12/6/2018 7:59 am : link
Vinny Paul, Jeff Hanneman, Malcolm Young, Lemmy, Phil and Eddie Clarke, RJD and on and on
a few from way back  
Steve in South Jersey : 12/6/2018 8:05 am : link
Buddy Holly
Steve McQueen
David Janssen
Marilyn Monroe
Lou Gehrig
Bonus round to blow your mind:  
jamison884 : 12/6/2018 8:12 am : link
Many of our most respected physicists now believe we're likely in a multiverse (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiverse).

The short explanation: we're in just one of an infinite number of parallel universes, where these icons of culture you're listing may be very alive and well, and you might instead have been the one who passed. There's no way to really test for this to confirm it (which is sort of the point of science), so it's all just theoretical, but it always blows my mind.
mine  
giantfan2000 : 12/6/2018 9:08 am : link
John Lennon
George Harrison
Joe Strummer

Lennon was tragic ... The Beatles definitely would have gotten back together for their Anthology project.. if not sooner

The Clash would have gotten back together for Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Buddy Holly, no question about it  
JohnB : 12/6/2018 9:11 am : link
He was an amazing talent that few could touch.
Buddy Holly  
Motley Two : 12/6/2018 9:15 am : link
is a really good call. Put Otis Redding in there too.
George Washington  
GMAN4LIFE : 12/6/2018 9:36 am : link
.
Bill Paxton  
NoPeanutz : 12/6/2018 9:55 am : link
caught everybody by surprise. That guy made a lot of great stuff in his career, would have loved to see more.
Christopher Hitchens  
NoPeanutz : 12/6/2018 9:57 am : link
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Joe Strummer was a great call  
RinR : 12/6/2018 10:13 am : link
Phil Hartman
Phil Hartman, Chris Farley  
Coach Red Beaulieu : 12/6/2018 10:33 am : link
Old Dirty Bastard.
Chris Farley, Phil Hartman, John Belushi, Notorious BIG  
Anakim : 12/6/2018 10:45 am : link
.
Lou Gehrig  
mitch300 : 12/6/2018 11:21 am : link
Who knows the numbers he could have put up and how many more games in a row he could have played.
I would add  
RinR : 12/6/2018 11:23 am : link
Freddie Mercury maybe because I just saw Bohemian Rhapsody.

Hard to say if Queen would still be putting out new music though.
RE: I don't count drug abusers and people who couldn't  
Mr. Bungle : 12/6/2018 11:24 am : link
In comment 14207113 SHO'NUFF said:
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keep it in their pants... live by the sword, die by the sword. And suicide, those people literally did it to themselves. Also, if you lived a long, full life and died naturally, you don't count either.

So this would include:

Kurt Cobain
Eazy-E
Robin Williams
Brittany Murphy
Heath Ledger
River Phoenix
Tupac and Biggie
George Bush Sr.
Stan Lee
Michael Jackson
and a few others listed already.

Disclaimer: I love Eazy Muthafuckin E... Love Robin Williams... nicest man you'll ever meet.

Guys that didn't "deserve" it, and I'm including people who had certain health issues, but probably didn't realize it until too late:

Phil Hartman
Owen Hart
James Gandolfini
Eli Manning's Hall of Fame chances
Chris Farley
Bruce Lee, from the official report... allergic reaction
JFK
Paul Walker

One could argue JFK and Walker put themselves in that position, but unlike Tupac and Biggie, they weren't doing things that warranted retaliation. The POTUS, as a title and symbol, is always under fire (no pun intended) so JFK shouldn't count.

If you don't count drug abusers, take Chris Farley off your list.
Tom Petty.  
Britt in VA : 12/6/2018 11:24 am : link
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JFK Jr.  
elisha2014 : 12/6/2018 11:49 am : link
Simply because he would likely be the President right now instead of that other guy.
RE: Whenever I see/hear Cobain, Layne Staley, or Bradley Nowell mentioned  
Britt in VA : 12/6/2018 12:12 pm : link
In comment 14207071 j_rud said:
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in this capacity I feel obliged to mention Shannon Hoon. Every bit as talented as those guys, and Blind Melon can legitimately be called the most underrated band of that era. If you only know No Rain do yourself a favor and dig into their (unfortunately very limited) catalog.


Good post and a great band.

Soup is a masterpiece, beginning to end, IMO.
RE: I don't count drug abusers and people who couldn't  
santacruzom : 12/6/2018 12:31 pm : link
In comment 14207113 SHO'NUFF said:
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keep it in their pants... live by the sword, die by the sword. And suicide, those people literally did it to themselves. Also, if you lived a long, full life and died naturally, you don't count either.

So this would include:

Kurt Cobain
Eazy-E
Robin Williams
Brittany Murphy
Heath Ledger
River Phoenix
Tupac and Biggie
George Bush Sr.
Stan Lee
Michael Jackson
and a few others listed already.


The OP was about famous people you miss. You're incapable of missing those listed above because they did X or Y?

That's a little odd.
Athlete-wise  
Anakim : 12/6/2018 1:57 pm : link
Sean Taylor and Derrick Thomas come to mind
Paul Walker  
redwhiteandbigblue : 12/6/2018 2:27 pm : link
Freddie Mercury
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Ronnie Van Zandt
John Candy
Chester Bennington
RE: George Washington  
Anakim : 12/6/2018 2:39 pm : link
In comment 14207257 GMAN4LIFE said:
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Washington died at 67. That's very old for his time.
RE: RE: I don't count drug abusers and people who couldn't  
SHO'NUFF : 12/6/2018 3:21 pm : link
In comment 14207508 santacruzom said:
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In comment 14207113 SHO'NUFF said:


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keep it in their pants... live by the sword, die by the sword. And suicide, those people literally did it to themselves. Also, if you lived a long, full life and died naturally, you don't count either.

So this would include:

Kurt Cobain
Eazy-E
Robin Williams
Brittany Murphy
Heath Ledger
River Phoenix
Tupac and Biggie
George Bush Sr.
Stan Lee
Michael Jackson
and a few others listed already.




The OP was about famous people you miss. You're incapable of missing those listed above because they did X or Y?

That's a little odd.


No, I don't miss them because they controlled their own destiny and decided to check out early. Regretfully, they are no longer with us, but I don't "miss" them. I didn't know any of them personally.
RE: RE: I don't count drug abusers and people who couldn't  
SHO'NUFF : 12/6/2018 3:23 pm : link
In comment 14207428 Mr. Bungle said:
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If you don't count drug abusers, take Chris Farley off your list.


Drugs did him in? I thought he was just fat.
RE: RE: George Washington  
Pete in MD : 12/6/2018 3:30 pm : link
In comment 14207709 Anakim said:
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Washington died at 67. That's very old for his time.

GW was most-likely killed by his doctors. He basically had a sore/inflamed throat (probably strep or mono) and his doctors decided that blood-letting was the best treatment. They reportedly drained many pints of his blood right before he died.
I guess I can't relate  
santacruzom : 12/6/2018 3:30 pm : link
I'm personally really curious about what kind of roles, say, Heath Ledger and Phillip Seymour Hoffman would find themselves in these days, and regret that I'll never know. This regret is not tempered by the circumstanced behind their death.
Pete Duel  
bitterblue : 12/6/2018 4:12 pm : link
I loved "Alias Smith and Jones" and I second John Lennon and Bobby Darin.
The Godfather of punk  
Sneakers O'toole : 12/6/2018 4:22 pm : link
Dewey Cox
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The Godfather of punk  
Sneakers O'toole : 12/6/2018 4:22 pm : link
Dewey Cox
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RE: RE: RE: I don't count drug abusers and people who couldn't  
Leg of Theismann : 12/6/2018 5:01 pm : link
In comment 14207738 SHO'NUFF said:
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In comment 14207508 santacruzom said:


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In comment 14207113 SHO'NUFF said:


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keep it in their pants... live by the sword, die by the sword. And suicide, those people literally did it to themselves. Also, if you lived a long, full life and died naturally, you don't count either.

So this would include:

Kurt Cobain
Eazy-E
Robin Williams
Brittany Murphy
Heath Ledger
River Phoenix
Tupac and Biggie
George Bush Sr.
Stan Lee
Michael Jackson
and a few others listed already.




The OP was about famous people you miss. You're incapable of missing those listed above because they did X or Y?

That's a little odd.



No, I don't miss them because they controlled their own destiny and decided to check out early. Regretfully, they are no longer with us, but I don't "miss" them. I didn't know any of them personally.


So, you don't miss them because they "controlled their own destiny", or you don't miss them because you didn't know them personally, which is it?

What is this notion of "counts" or "doesn't count"? Counts for what exactly? I'm incredibly confused by your list and I really don't think you should have 2 separate lists. Everyone "controls their own destiny" in some way. BTW, Chris Farley died of an overdose of cocaine and morphine, so that's one inconsistency. Also, Phil Hartman remained married to an insane person who had long-standing issues with drugs and alcohol and ultimately murdered him, so in a way wasn't he also controlling his own fate? Gandolfini died of a heart attack which you could argue could have been avoided by making healthier lifestyle choices, so did he he not "control his own fate"? Also, the reasons for Tupac and Biggie's shootings are still unknown, and many believe Biggie in particular was likely killed due to the incorrect assertion that he was responsible for Tupac's death, so I don't see how you could say either of their deaths were their fault or part of them "controlling their destiny". Same thing with Eazy-E... he died of AIDS. Your post seems to blame him for "not being able to keep it in his pants" but the reality is that any person who has ever had unprotected sex with anyone (including you) has technically put themselves at risk of getting AIDS and it truly does come down to just having bad luck a lot of times. Wilt Chamberlain had sex with thousands of women and never contracted HIV, was he attempting to "check out early" by being so sexually promiscuous? I think it's disrespectful and shortsighted to judge one group of people as having "controlled their own fate" or "chose to check out early" while depicting the other group of people as just victims or innocent bystanders... especially considering, like you said, you have never met any of them.
RE: Christopher Hitchens  
Milton : 12/6/2018 5:53 pm : link
+1
Just saw Pete Shelley, leader singer for the Buzzcocks  
rebel yell : 12/6/2018 7:18 pm : link
died. Way too young at 63. Also, Tom Petty. He was a great musician!
My list:  
BigBlueinDE : 12/7/2018 9:43 pm : link
1) Elvis Presley
2) Jerry Garcia
3) Pigpen
4) Bowie
5) Bruce Lee
RE: RE: RE: I don't count drug abusers and people who couldn't  
Zeke's Alibi : 12/8/2018 12:23 am : link
In comment 14207742 SHO'NUFF said:
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If you don't count drug abusers, take Chris Farley off your list.



Drugs did him in? I thought he was just fat.


How is dying from drugs and being fat different? Gandolfini and Farley both died from their lifestyles.
Chris Cornell  
BrianLeonard23 : 12/8/2018 5:25 pm : link
Scott Weiland
Kurt Cobain
Freddie Mercury
Jose Fernandez
Junior Seau
All these posts are right  
mrvax : 12/8/2018 7:23 pm : link
The ones that have affected me most are Morrison, Joplin & Hendrix. All died at 27 and I believe within the same year.
RE: JFK Jr.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/8/2018 7:34 pm : link
In comment 14207452 elisha2014 said:
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Simply because he would likely be the President right now instead of that other guy.


He would have gone far in politics. And every woman would have voted for him. He was a great looking dude.
None  
pjcas18 : 12/8/2018 9:15 pm : link
I don't miss any famous people.

However, I really think the world could use George Carlin right now.

He had a way of crossing all political, social, socioeconomic, racial, etc. boundaries and making a lot of sense
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