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Kyler Murray undecided about football or baseball career

Jay on the Island : 12/6/2018 10:57 am
Oklahoma quarterback Kyler Murray is heading to New York this weekend for the Heisman Trophy presentation, and then hes heading to the College Football Playoff. But whether he ever plays football again after the playoff remains to be seen.

Murray is a Major League Baseball first-round draft pick who has already signed a multimillion-dollar contract with the Oakland As, and he said in an interview with fellow quarterback-turned-baseball player Tim Tebow that he still needs to decide what he wants to do next.

Murray has previously indicated that he thinks baseball is his future, but he has played so well at Oklahoma this year that he might have better prospects in the NFL draft than previously believed. Although hes listed at 5-foot-10, awfully short for an NFL quarterback, hes such a dynamic playmaker that some NFL teams might be willing to take him in the first round of the draft. In that case, Murray sounds like hes open to the possibility of paying back his baseball signing bonus and giving the NFL a try.

This should excite Bw in DC.
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From a long term standpoint  
ajr2456 : 12/6/2018 11:03 am : link
He should choose baseball. If he fails he can always give football a shot like Weinke.

Slightly different since Weinke went to baseball then college football then the NFL.

Take the potential at getting hundres of millions in guaranteed money.
Heres the list of 5'10  
dep026 : 12/6/2018 11:03 am : link
QBs in the history of NCAA who had 2 great year followed by successful NFL career///






































The end.
Id easily choose baseball  
UConn4523 : 12/6/2018 11:03 am : link
not even close. Add in his measurables not really working in the NFL at QB and Im not sure what the point would be to A. Try and make it as a QB or B. Convert to a WR and maybe not be successful or C. Take a big hit and end both careers.
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2018 11:06 am : link
I'm not sure he's even 5'10".. he looks like he might even be smaller than that.

Murray is a tremendous college QB but I think he'd be smart to stick with baseball.

Kinda reminds me of Charlie Ward. Ward was a bit bigger, though.
More money, longer career, don't get your brains scrambled  
Greg from LI : 12/6/2018 11:08 am : link
Yes, baseball would seem to be the obvious choice here.
RE: Id easily choose baseball  
bradshaw44 : 12/6/2018 11:16 am : link
In comment 14207383 UConn4523 said:
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not even close. Add in his measurables not really working in the NFL at QB and Im not sure what the point would be to A. Try and make it as a QB or B. Convert to a WR and maybe not be successful or C. Take a big hit and end both careers.


I've always said I would love nothing more than to have been a Super Bowl winning QB. But given the options, I'd much rather have an 18 year career in the majors as a middling player bouncing around the league. Healthier and much richer by the end of the career.
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Capt. Don : 12/6/2018 11:17 am : link
I see Antwaan Randle El
Can't hurt to enter the draft  
Eli Wilson : 12/6/2018 11:17 am : link
and see what happens.

If someone picks him high enough, he'll make more money his first 5 years than he would in baseball his first 5 years.

He always has the option to go back to baseball if things don't work out with football. Probably not true the other way around.
He should ask  
The Dude : 12/6/2018 11:22 am : link
jeff samardzija what he should do
He is way too small for the  
section125 : 12/6/2018 11:26 am : link
NFL.

I hope he chooses baseball. Better for his health and contracts are guaranteed. You get your money cut, injured or playing once signed.

Signed a large bonus with the As, so he must be really, really good at baseball.
Indecision....  
Ryan : 12/6/2018 11:27 am : link
..runs in his family as indicated by his parents indecision as to name him Kyle or Skyler.
Nobody in their right mind  
ThatLimerickGuy : 12/6/2018 11:50 am : link
Would pick football over baseball.
RE: Can't hurt to enter the draft  
GiantsLaw : 12/6/2018 11:57 am : link
In comment 14207415 Eli Wilson said:
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and see what happens.


could he be leveraging being an NFL draft pick to get more $$ from the A's?
He'd be a FOOL not to choose baseball  
ZogZerg : 12/6/2018 11:57 am : link
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Look at how much more money  
Mike in NY : 12/6/2018 11:59 am : link
Jeff Samardzija has made
I don't know, normally I'd say choose baseball, but he has a chance to  
barens : 12/6/2018 12:01 pm : link
be a starting QB in the NFL, there's a heck of a lot of money and opportunity there, if not more.

Baseball is the safer pick, but how good is he supposed to be?
RE: Nobody in their right mind  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/6/2018 12:03 pm : link
In comment 14207453 ThatLimerickGuy said:
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Would pick football over baseball.

Excellent point. Any chance you might consider picking a baseball message board instead?
The kid is electric  
English Alaister : 12/6/2018 12:18 pm : link
I would scout him...I can see him being a Drew Brees, Russell Wilson type.
Is he significantly shorter than Brees / RW ?  
MetsAreBack : 12/6/2018 12:24 pm : link

And the whole "long-term" or brains scrambled argument doesn't apply to QBs.... especially with the league probably two years away from just having QBs wear different colored jerseys with flags attached to their hips.
Say that to Brett farve luck or Rodgers  
bhill410 : 12/6/2018 12:32 pm : link
Who have had many concussions.

RE: RE: Nobody in their right mind  
ThatLimerickGuy : 12/6/2018 12:33 pm : link
In comment 14207473 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 14207453 ThatLimerickGuy said:


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Would pick football over baseball.


Excellent point. Any chance you might consider picking a baseball message board instead?


Why...just why...

8 people have said the same exact thing as I have but you have a hard on for me for some reason.

Weirdo.
RE: Say that to Brett farve luck or Rodgers  
MetsAreBack : 12/6/2018 1:39 pm : link
In comment 14207510 bhill410 said:
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Who have had many concussions.


Favre played in a completely different era. I haven't read how many documented concussions Rodgers and Luck have had. Of course, players xYZ all had torn rotator cuff and tommy John surgeries.... we can all play this game.

Point remains : QBs have much longer health and duration versus other positions. It's not a no brainer - the kid should pick the sport he has more passion for.
I saw this interview...  
bw in dc : 12/6/2018 1:41 pm : link
And for the first time, it did appear as if Murray re-evaluating.

It's an interesting dynamic with KM. His agent is Scott Boras, strongly suggesting baseball is the path. And the A's gave him a $4.6M+ signing bonus with the strong indications he will be fast tracked to the show.

On the other hand, KM's dad played at A&M in the early '80s. So football flows through his veins. He is a great college player. I think he's the most complete, dynamic offense force I've ever seen at the college game - great passer and a great runner. Lamar Jackson was a force too. But far from the thrower that KM is.

However, as cited above, the X factor is his size. If he was blessed with four more inches, KM would be a top three pick - easily. If not the top pick. Great arm, release, mobility, smart, leader, tough...everything. But those damn inches...

It's a very tough prediction where he'd go in the draft if he decides on football. I think second round at best. There are really important historical metrics in the NFL that equal success. And size is critical. So it would be a real leap of faith to ignore that and invest a first round pick.

Baseball makes the most sense just based on the pounding he'd avoid and longevity. I guess the decision would also come down to this - which profession can he advance the quickest to get to the next contract. And the biggest contract...
RE: Is he significantly shorter than Brees / RW ?  
Deejboy : 12/6/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 14207502 MetsAreBack said:
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And the whole "long-term" or brains scrambled argument doesn't apply to QBs.... especially with the league probably two years away from just having QBs wear different colored jerseys with flags attached to their hips.

He officially measured as 5'9" before the MLB draft. He is not even 5'10". He is 3 inches shorter than Brees and 2 inches shorter than Wilson. And he is about 20lbs less than Brees and 30lbs less than Wilson.
some of you are forgetting  
RasputinPrime : 12/6/2018 2:09 pm : link
Question  
TyreeHelmet : 12/6/2018 2:22 pm : link
How does the signing bonus work while staying eligible for NCAA football? Is it escrow or is he allowed to have the money because its a different sport.

He's a great player and if he was 4 inches taller he would be a lock to go number 1 no question. Do the 2/3 inches Brees and Wilson on him really make a huge difference? Hard to say.

I realize the money in baseball is nuts but its take a long time to get to FA. QBs make a ton of money now. Injury risk in baseball is such more lower though...
RE: Question  
Mad Mike : 12/6/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 14207695 TyreeHelmet said:
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How does the signing bonus work while staying eligible for NCAA football? Is it escrow or is he allowed to have the money because its a different sport..

The NCAA allows you to take pro money in one sport and retain eligibility in other sports.
RE: More money, longer career, don't get your brains scrambled  
santacruzom : 12/6/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 14207398 Greg from LI said:
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Yes, baseball would seem to be the obvious choice here.


Yeah but the counter argument is, baseball sucks.

Play a sport where your measurables might be a liability? Or play a sport that sucks? I can see the dilemma.
He could be a decent running back in the NFL  
Sy'56 : 12/6/2018 2:34 pm : link
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I noticed  
Carson53 : 12/6/2018 3:19 pm : link
he was a top 10 pick in the amateur baseball draft,
don't know what position he plays? At his size, my guess
would be infielder like Russell Wilson.
He's an outfielder  
Mad Mike : 12/6/2018 3:34 pm : link
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RE: RE: More money, longer career, don't get your brains scrambled  
Greg from LI : 12/6/2018 3:47 pm : link
In comment 14207699 santacruzom said:
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Yeah but the counter argument is, baseball sucks.

Play a sport where your measurables might be a liability? Or play a sport that sucks? I can see the dilemma.


My, aren't you tremendously witty.
Nothing guaranteed in baseball either  
Eli Wilson : 12/6/2018 3:52 pm : link
Just because someone is a first round pick in the MLB draft, does not mean they will ever make it to the majors or that they will be super succesful if they do.

If you were promised the same level of success in the NFL and MLB, I could see MLB being the much better option.

There is a chance he goes to the minors, can't hit as well as he did last year in college, and just never makes it.
RE: Nothing guaranteed in baseball either  
Mad Mike : 12/6/2018 4:10 pm : link
In comment 14207767 Eli Wilson said:
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If you were promised the same level of success in the NFL and MLB, I could see MLB being the much better option.

What if you're equally promised no success in either league?
RE: RE: Nothing guaranteed in baseball either  
Eli Wilson : 12/6/2018 4:42 pm : link
In comment 14207787 Mad Mike said:
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In comment 14207767 Eli Wilson said:


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If you were promised the same level of success in the NFL and MLB, I could see MLB being the much better option.


What if you're equally promised no success in either league?


Then take the NFL contract you get through the draft if it pays more than the MLB signing bonus you already agreed to.
RE: RE: RE: Nothing guaranteed in baseball either  
Mad Mike : 12/6/2018 5:09 pm : link
In comment 14207827 Eli Wilson said:
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Then take the NFL contract you get through the draft if it pays more than the MLB signing bonus you already agreed to.

So no consideration of possible future outcomes which aren't guaranteed? Sounds like a pretty simple decision.
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