of a different kind. The terrible news about Alex Smith plus McCoy's injury seems to make drafting a QB an imperative and/or rolling the dice on a vet (Foles, Winston, Flacco, Carr?). And, do you keep Gruden around for this or opt for bringing in a new HC to work with a new QB? And another team lookng to draft a QB could affect Giants. Maybe they shouldn't have played games and just paid Counsins.
Oh wait, they did that already. Might as well try it again.
Redskins are in a deep hole at QB. They will be a player in both free agency and in the draft.
"Hog Mollies" "QB Hell"
Okay I'm done now.
Yeah I was going to say, Cousin is way better than Alex Smith. Smith had ONE good year which obviously has turned out to be an outlier.
I'm not saying Cousins was some world-beater, but they should have just paid him.
By 2020, that disadvantage will flip. Wentz and Prescott will get big contracts. Wentz's could be ginormous. Meanwhile, the Skins are saddled with this Smith hit, which will probably disable the team in 2019 and probably impact them in 2020. They'll be paying for a solid NFL QB and may not have one on the roster. And by 2020, the Giants will presumably be working with a cost-controlled QB and hopefully a promising one.
It's darkest before the dawn, boys.
Yeah, I'd take Smith over Cousins any day of the week.
They are in QB hell. My guess is that they release Smith, hope McCoy can be ready by midseason, sign and start another veteran, and use a high pick on a QB.
This was always a weird plan.
LOL
Just shows that being aware of something does not prevent it from happening.
DG was placing the Giants in Qb Hell right about the same that he made those comments.
Neither one was worth the money each was paid. I kind of respect how DC handled the Cousins situation - sure, they paid a hell of an AAV for him, but there was no long-term commitment. Then they let him go but doubled down on Alex Smith. I think Smith is slightly better, but that contract!
Assuming Smith can't play again, any capologists know what DC's hit will be moving forward? If it is still significant, they almost have to go with drafting a QB, who would be more fiscally feasible than paying a FA.
To join the Smith vs. Cousins discussion... Smith got injured as the weather was starting to change. I can't see how he could play in NJ, Washington or Philly in a typical winter.
To join the Smith vs. Cousins discussion... Smith got injured as the weather was starting to change. I can't see how he could play in NJ, Washington or Philly in a typical winter.
He rarely ever threw deep passes, so I dont think wind and weather was much of a concern to limit him. Hes an incredibly risk-averse passer.
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They should just draft a QB, and groom him and take their lumps.
lol.
They dont have a functional QB on their roster. They dont have a WR worth a damn. And their RB is 34 years old. You really are a strange poster.
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over Cousins.
Yeah I was going to say, Cousin is way better than Alex Smith. Smith had ONE good year which obviously has turned out to be an outlier.
I'm not saying Cousins was some world-beater, but they should have just paid him.
They wouldn't have won jack shit with Cousins making that bank.
Vikings have a much better cast and they're still fighting for a wildcard.
And can everyone stop with the Bridgewater nonsense? #1 he's with the Saints and they gave up a 3rd for him #2 he was never above average to begin with #3 he's highly suspect with bad knee injuries
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over Cousins.
Yeah I was going to say, Cousin is way better than Alex Smith. Smith had ONE good year which obviously has turned out to be an outlier.
I'm not saying Cousins was some world-beater, but they should have just paid him.
They wouldn't have won jack shit with Cousins making that bank.
Vikings have a much better cast and they're still fighting for a wildcard.
And can everyone stop with the Bridgewater nonsense? #1 he's with the Saints and they gave up a 3rd for him #2 he was never above average to begin with #3 he's highly suspect with bad knee injuries
I don't understand the boner people have for him either
Oh wait, they did that already. Might as well try it again.
Ummm I mean they were 6-3 when he went down and barely lost to the Texans (the game Smith went out). I disagree with the notion that they couldn't win with Alex Smith. I'm also not saying Smith is a great QB, but put him on a decent team and he gets you W's. That's always been his M.O. and he's proven it time and time again with multiple teams.
And I don't think it's 100% black-and-white whether or not Smith was an upgrade over Cousins or not. Cousins is probably overall a better pure passer, but he's had problems in his career not feeling pressure and stepping up in the pocket and it's led to him turning the ball over at crucial times. The "eye test" may say that Cousins is better but I mean he's 6-5-1 with a team that went to the NFCCG last year while Smith was 6-3 with the Redskins before he went down and had a history of winning with the 49ers and Chiefs as well (albeit regular season winning but still the point is he has stacked W's throughout his career and that is by no means easy to do no matter how good your team is).
I think people seem to look at things too black-and-white and say "oh that QB only won because he was on a great team" or "that QB is overrated he's captain check down" etc. Tom Brady has won 5 Super Bowls and he's a very conservative checkdown-type passer. Sure he has a great arm as well but I just think there's more to being a winning QB than just being a great thrower of the ball and Alex Smith proved throughout his career that he is a winning QB.
W-L Record (career):
Smith: 94-66-1
Cousins: 32-35-2
Kirk Cousins may look "better" but the fact is he is 30 years old and the best record he's ever had as a starter is 9-7, which Alex Smith looked poised to possibly beat in his first year with the same exact team Cousins was with his entire career if he hadn't gone down. Hell Cousins is technically on a more talented than Smith this year and has a worse Win%.
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And can everyone stop with the Bridgewater nonsense? #1 he's with the Saints and they gave up a 3rd for him #2 he was never above average to begin with #3 he's highly suspect with bad knee injuries
which is exactly why Bridgewater will end up with the Redskins.
Anyhow I wish him the best. It has to be scary
Just last year?
Well, both teams are coached by Grudens so they might work something out.
Anyhow I wish him the best. It has to be scary
Also, the NFCE sucks this year.
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They should just draft a QB, and groom him and take their lumps.
lol.
They dont have a functional QB on their roster. They dont have a WR worth a damn. And their RB is 34 years old. You really are a strange poster.
They *might* have a plan at RB - if Derrious Guice comes back okay.
Giants arent in for a qb 😉
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They should just draft a QB, and groom him and take their lumps. But Snyder is a moron and will probably make some stupid trade for a QB that they cant win with.
Oh wait, they did that already. Might as well try it again.
Ummm I mean they were 6-3 when he went down and barely lost to the Texans (the game Smith went out). I disagree with the notion that they couldn't win with Alex Smith. I'm also not saying Smith is a great QB, but put him on a decent team and he gets you W's. That's always been his M.O. and he's proven it time and time again with multiple teams.
And I don't think it's 100% black-and-white whether or not Smith was an upgrade over Cousins or not. Cousins is probably overall a better pure passer, but he's had problems in his career not feeling pressure and stepping up in the pocket and it's led to him turning the ball over at crucial times. The "eye test" may say that Cousins is better but I mean he's 6-5-1 with a team that went to the NFCCG last year while Smith was 6-3 with the Redskins before he went down and had a history of winning with the 49ers and Chiefs as well (albeit regular season winning but still the point is he has stacked W's throughout his career and that is by no means easy to do no matter how good your team is).
I think people seem to look at things too black-and-white and say "oh that QB only won because he was on a great team" or "that QB is overrated he's captain check down" etc. Tom Brady has won 5 Super Bowls and he's a very conservative checkdown-type passer. Sure he has a great arm as well but I just think there's more to being a winning QB than just being a great thrower of the ball and Alex Smith proved throughout his career that he is a winning QB.
W-L Record (career):
Smith: 94-66-1
Cousins: 32-35-2
Kirk Cousins may look "better" but the fact is he is 30 years old and the best record he's ever had as a starter is 9-7, which Alex Smith looked poised to possibly beat in his first year with the same exact team Cousins was with his entire career if he hadn't gone down. Hell Cousins is technically on a more talented than Smith this year and has a worse Win%.
Could not agree more.
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Le-hoo, ze-her
LOL
All-time overpaid club!
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When is the last time Washington truly had a franchise QB? Theisman?
Just last year?
Cousins was a franchise QB? Agree to disagree.