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Giants pass on taking Jonathan Stewart off IR

gidiefor : Mod : 12/6/2018 3:15 pm
...per Ryan Dunleavy
Champagne  
noro9 : 12/6/2018 3:17 pm : link
Bottle?
Does that impact anything salary-wise?  
Big Blue '56 : 12/6/2018 3:17 pm : link
Capwise?
RE: Does that impact anything salary-wise?  
EricJ : 12/6/2018 3:18 pm : link
In comment 14207735 Big Blue '56 said:
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Capwise?


one would have to think that it does.
Good idea.  
St. Jimmy : 12/6/2018 3:24 pm : link
Keep him in bubble wrap for next year.
maybe they read BBI  
SHO'NUFF : 12/6/2018 3:24 pm : link
sometimes, I swear, we know more than these so-called "professionals".
There goes our playoff hopes  
bradshaw44 : 12/6/2018 3:44 pm : link
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RE: There goes our playoff hopes  
LawrenceTaylor56 : 12/6/2018 3:51 pm : link
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What, no “4 in a row or we don’t go”?
RE: RE: Does that impact anything salary-wise?  
section125 : 12/6/2018 3:52 pm : link
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Capwise?



one would have to think that it does.


He has a $400K per game roster bonus, so would save $1.6 mill by not activating.
They save $2.6 mill by cutting him at the end of the season and only will have $250k dead money according to OTC.
This team is quick to understand it's mistakes  
Rjanyg : 12/6/2018 3:56 pm : link
I think they realize that Stewart is no better than Gallman at this time and Penny could jump in and play RB if necessary.

Smart move.
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2018 4:00 pm : link
Every once in a while, you get signings like this where the vast majority of the fan base and basically anyone who weighs in knows it's a crappy deal. I'll never really understand these. Was there ANYONE remotely knowledgable who thought this was a good move at the time? Just didn't make any sense.
RE: RE: There goes our playoff hopes  
bradshaw44 : 12/6/2018 4:02 pm : link
In comment 14207765 LawrenceTaylor56 said:
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What, no “4 in a row or we don’t go”?


We don't control our own destiny. We would have if Shurmur didn't blow it for us in the second half of the Philly game. We had that game won. 4 in a row doesn't give us shit now.
Unlike Reese  
RobCarpenter : 12/6/2018 4:04 pm : link
DG moves on from his mistakes vs. doubling down on them.

I doubt Stewart is in the NFL next season.
Waive from IR with injury settlement?  
ij_reilly : 12/6/2018 4:07 pm : link
Is that an option?
RE: RE: RE: Does that impact anything salary-wise?  
EricJ : 12/6/2018 4:09 pm : link
In comment 14207766 section125 said:
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He has a $400K per game roster bonus, so would save $1.6 mill by not activating.
They save $2.6 mill by cutting him at the end of the season and only will have $250k dead money according to OTC.


Well then it makes zero sense to activate him or even to have him back next year. If DG does anything other than let him go then I will have a serious problem with that.

Barkley no longer needs mentoring
RE: Unlike Reese  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/6/2018 4:25 pm : link
In comment 14207783 RobCarpenter said:
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DG moves on from his mistakes vs. doubling down on them.

I doubt Stewart is in the NFL next season.


He's under contract for next season. They haven't moved on yet.
$400K is the total...  
Ryan : 12/6/2018 4:29 pm : link
...of the per-game roster bonuses for the season ($25K/game) - not the per game amount.
Stewart can..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/6/2018 4:48 pm : link
be cut after the season with a minimal cap hit, so the idea he'll be on the team next year is very much in doubt
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ron mexico : 12/6/2018 4:49 pm : link
In comment 14207772 arcarsenal said:
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Every once in a while, you get signings like this where the vast majority of the fan base and basically anyone who weighs in knows it's a crappy deal. I'll never really understand these. Was there ANYONE remotely knowledgable who thought this was a good move at the time? Just didn't make any sense.


Reminds me of that guy we signed for one day: Sheffield Obrien or something like that
He won’t be on the team next year  
mattlawson : 12/6/2018 4:57 pm : link
A veteran presence to teach the kids. A dependable back. A veteran leader. A thank you contract from a former GM who obviously loves and respects him.
RE: $400K is the total...  
section125 : 12/6/2018 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14207811 Ryan said:
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...of the per-game roster bonuses for the season ($25K/game) - not the per game amount.


That makes more sense...tks
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2018 4:58 pm : link
In comment 14207834 ron mexico said:
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Every once in a while, you get signings like this where the vast majority of the fan base and basically anyone who weighs in knows it's a crappy deal. I'll never really understand these. Was there ANYONE remotely knowledgable who thought this was a good move at the time? Just didn't make any sense.



Reminds me of that guy we signed for one day: Sheffield Obrien or something like that


Ah, the O'Brien Schofield fiasco... a Giant for about 45 minutes.
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mrvax : 12/6/2018 5:33 pm : link
In comment 14207846 arcarsenal said:
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Ah, the O'Brien Schofield fiasco... a Giant for about 45 minutes.


I nearly shat myself when I heard the $ Reese was going to give this JAG. Thank goodness he "failed" a physical.

Stewart was clearly a DG blunder and I like DG.
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Milton : 12/6/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 14207772 arcarsenal said:
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Every once in a while, you get signings like this where the vast majority of the fan base and basically anyone who weighs in knows it's a crappy deal. I'll never really understand these. Was there ANYONE remotely knowledgable who thought this was a good move at the time? Just didn't make any sense.
More often than not it is simply a case of a broken clock being right twice a day.
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Jimmy Googs : 12/6/2018 5:49 pm : link
In comment 14207772 arcarsenal said:
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Every once in a while, you get signings like this where the vast majority of the fan base and basically anyone who weighs in knows it's a crappy deal. I'll never really understand these. Was there ANYONE remotely knowledgable who thought this was a good move at the time? Just didn't make any sense.


You can look at the supporters and the critics right here...

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=565884&show_all=1

https://corner.bigblueinteractive.com/index.php?mode=2&thread=570333
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ron mexico : 12/6/2018 5:54 pm : link
In comment 14207846 arcarsenal said:
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In comment 14207772 arcarsenal said:


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Every once in a while, you get signings like this where the vast majority of the fan base and basically anyone who weighs in knows it's a crappy deal. I'll never really understand these. Was there ANYONE remotely knowledgable who thought this was a good move at the time? Just didn't make any sense.



Reminds me of that guy we signed for one day: Sheffield Obrien or something like that



Ah, the O'Brien Schofield fiasco... a Giant for about 45 minutes.


One of the funniest line that came out of that was imagining JR coming the the realization that O'Brien Schofield wasn't two people

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arcarsenal : 12/6/2018 5:54 pm : link
I know I didn't like it at all the day it was announced, so... no revisionist history on my part.
RE: RE: RE: Does that impact anything salary-wise?  
Gatorade Dunk : 12/6/2018 5:56 pm : link
In comment 14207766 section125 said:
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Capwise?



one would have to think that it does.



He has a $400K per game roster bonus, so would save $1.6 mill by not activating.
They save $2.6 mill by cutting him at the end of the season and only will have $250k dead money according to OTC.

I'm pretty sure it's $400K aggregate roster bonuses for the season, so $25K per game. Otherwise, his roster bonuses alone would roll up to more than the value of his contract for 2018.
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Jimmy Googs : 12/6/2018 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14207873 arcarsenal said:
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I know I didn't like it at all the day it was announced, so... no revisionist history on my part.


I may have mentioned my displeasure as well a few times :-)

but the typical defenders of the faith were ok with it...

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Rong5611 : 12/6/2018 7:18 pm : link
Thought he could contribute, I was wrong. Bad move by DG. Stewart should be released at the time where the most cap space can be regained.

In comment 14207907 Jimmy Googs said:
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I know I didn't like it at all the day it was announced, so... no revisionist history on my part.



I may have mentioned my displeasure as well a few times :-)

but the typical defenders of the faith were ok with it...
RE: maybe they read BBI  
djm : 12/6/2018 8:20 pm : link
In comment 14207744 SHO'NUFF said:
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sometimes, I swear, we know more than these so-called "professionals".


Nope
RE: Unlike Reese  
gmenatlarge : 12/6/2018 9:36 pm : link
In comment 14207783 RobCarpenter said:
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DG moves on from his mistakes vs. doubling down on them.

I doubt Stewart is in the NFL next season.


I wouldn’t be patting him on the back too much, he’s still the guy that brought Stewart and a lot of other losers in that sabotaged the year. We’ll see if he can do better next year.
I guess DG has changed his stance on  
Dave in Hoboken : 12/6/2018 9:47 pm : link
'Stewart being the same player he was 10 years ago.'
RE: RE: RE: RE: Does that impact anything salary-wise?  
SHO'NUFF : 12/6/2018 10:10 pm : link
In comment 14207786 EricJ said:
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Barkley no longer needs mentoring


He never did.
Stewart is a strange situation.  
TMS : 12/6/2018 10:40 pm : link
One could surmise that DG just wanted to give this guy a golden parachute out of the league by overpaying and signing him. Know they were very close in NC, but he has produced nothing here to justify his contract. Now he is done ??
RE: Stewart is a strange situation.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/6/2018 10:44 pm : link
In comment 14208036 TMS said:
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One could surmise that DG just wanted to give this guy a golden parachute out of the league by overpaying and signing him. Know they were very close in NC, but he has produced nothing here to justify his contract. Now he is done ??


It's pretty clear that Gettleman stands on old fashioned football roots. Aside from misjudging whatever Stewart had left (not sure how anyone could think he had much left), he probably felt like Barkley could benefit from having a veteran RB. He was just careless with cap resources because he puts his own value on things
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mrvax : 12/6/2018 11:16 pm : link
In comment 14208024 SHO'NUFF said:
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Barkley no longer needs mentoring



He never did.



Barkley should have been mentoring Stewart.
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