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OnTap : 12/6/2018 4:17 pm
I'm middle aged in decent health, but need to work on some numbers. Blood sugar is a bit high, HDL is low, etc etc. I'm a decent weight but I also could stand to lose a few.

In trying to clean up my nutrition I am just really down and frustrated by the conflicting info out there.

For example, I'm told to eat lots of fruits and veggies...

Ok cool but now I'm reading that a lot of veggies, like tomatoes and bell peppers are inflammatory. And inflammation is the new devil!

I'm told grapes are good for heart health but then read they're loaded with carbs and sugar which turns to fat and inflammation.

I'm told to eat oats for the fiber and such but wait no don't because oats are grains which are bad. Oh and don't eat egg yolks because they promote inflammation too. Do intermittent fasting, but really keep eating small meals to stabilize blood sugar swings.

Eat fruit but not most fruits. Bananas are good- wait no they're not. Only eat fruit in the morning on an empty stomach...

W. T. F.???? Basically the only things to eat are spinach, kale,... oh wait, those contain oxalates which cause kidney stones...

Ok so I will live on pomegranate.

Sorry for the vent but I was hoping someone has some wisdom on this.
Don't forget to put butter in your organic, press-washed  
DC Gmen Fan : 12/6/2018 4:22 pm : link
coffee
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2018 4:24 pm : link
It is really easy to start overanalyzing diet and find all sorts of conflicting info.

Honestly, just keep it simple - focus on balance, moderation, and calorie tracking. Sugars from fruits are fine - it's added sugars you want to avoid.

Normal servings of fruits and veggies aren't going to create inflammatory issues.

Focus on lean protein and veggies. Don't go too heavy on starches... breads, potatoes, etc.

Opt for healthy fats in things like avocado and nuts. Avoid trans fats, fried food, fast food, etc.

If you're a drinker, try to avoid sugary drinks and limit drinking in general.

Drink a lot of water. Water, water, water. No soda or sweet beverages with added sugars, etc.

Keep a regular exercise schedule. Whatever is do-able for you and something you can stick to.

We're at a point now where there's so much nutritional information overload. Fad diets left and right, stuff that yields short-term results but won't hold up long-term. It's just way more complicated than it should be.
What arc said  
DC Gmen Fan : 12/6/2018 4:25 pm : link
moderation is the key. Use common sense. Shop the outside aisles of the grocery store.
and don't forget  
Rocky369 : 12/6/2018 4:31 pm : link
bottled water and salad can now kill you
Started  
Professor Falken : 12/6/2018 4:33 pm : link
drinking green tea with a little lemon and lime juice added in. Very noticeable appetite suppressant for me and it's just one cup in the morning.
RE: and don't forget  
Anakim : 12/6/2018 4:33 pm : link
In comment 14207814 Rocky369 said:
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bottled water and salad can now kill you



Hmmmph

Still can't believe we're living in a world where water in water
Anakim : 12/4/2018 1:46 pm : link : reply
bottles and salad are considered dangerous
RE: RE: and don't forget  
Rocky369 : 12/6/2018 4:40 pm : link
In comment 14207818 Anakim said:
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Hmmmph
I knew someone said it somewhere around here.
what arc said with 1 minor note, pay extra attention to net carbs  
Eric on Li : 12/6/2018 4:45 pm : link
fiber is totally fine and carbs from fruits/veggies are mostly fine. But they aren't nothing, so if you don't factor them in with the other carbs you think you're moderating then you end up not really moderating.
Speaking of pomegranate  
DC Gmen Fan : 12/6/2018 5:26 pm : link
I've been eating almost a whole one per day. Love that stuff.
RE: Speaking of pomegranate  
Chris in Philly : 12/6/2018 5:35 pm : link
In comment 14207857 DC Gmen Fan said:
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I've been eating almost a whole one per day. Love that stuff.


My kids love them too. But they should be traded on the commodities exchange. Sweet baby Jesus they mark those fuckers up...
diet  
Lines of Scrimmage : 12/6/2018 5:59 pm : link
If you are trying to drop weight cutting carbs works. If you like to have a heavier carb meal best to do after a workout.

There are so many type of eating protocols you can research. They are always present with other information discounted each of them. So certainly it is confusing.


One thing that people don't realize is carbs add up fast. So if you go heavy fruits stick to more the berries as opposed to bananas, oranges, mango etc. Veggies best with the grean leafy, crucifious, or bok choy type.

I tend to more the heavy lifting and I am in my forties. Good for posture, retaining muscle, and hormonal balance.

Best of luck.

Garlic and olive oil are your friend for upping HDL  
gtt350 : 12/6/2018 7:09 pm : link
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I love that your handle is 'On Tap'  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/6/2018 7:55 pm : link
As in, 'Tom, what do you guys got on tap beer wise tonight?'
Agree with what everyone says about balance and moderation  
Leg of Theismann : 12/6/2018 8:32 pm : link
Also, I recently discovered that tightness in my neck that I've had for years has been caused by inflammation from eating gluten, dairy, and sugar. I thought the whole gluten thing was a farce, but I've now had multiple doctors I know and respect tell me that our digestive systems were not designed to break down gluten and dairy and the inflammation is basically an immune-system reaction to these "foreign" substances. It makes sense: apparently the molecules (I think) are too large for the human stomach to break down. Many people can eat these things and be fine, but there are apparently hundreds of different reactions the body can have to these foods and mine happens to be inflammation in my neck and back because I've had neck and back problems over the years. Also, it's apparently one of those things where I can eat a certain amount of these things and be okay, but if I overdose on them then the inflammation will occur. For a few months I cut gluten, dairy, and sugar out of my diet completely and my neck pain went away. It was amazing.
RE: .  
Boy Cord : 12/6/2018 8:41 pm : link
In comment 14207803 arcarsenal said:
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It is really easy to start overanalyzing diet and find all sorts of conflicting info.

Honestly, just keep it simple - focus on balance, moderation, and calorie tracking. Sugars from fruits are fine - it's added sugars you want to avoid.

Normal servings of fruits and veggies aren't going to create inflammatory issues.

Focus on lean protein and veggies. Don't go too heavy on starches... breads, potatoes, etc.

Opt for healthy fats in things like avocado and nuts. Avoid trans fats, fried food, fast food, etc.

If you're a drinker, try to avoid sugary drinks and limit drinking in general.

Drink a lot of water. Water, water, water. No soda or sweet beverages with added sugars, etc.

Keep a regular exercise schedule. Whatever is do-able for you and something you can stick to.

We're at a point now where there's so much nutritional information overload. Fad diets left and right, stuff that yields short-term results but won't hold up long-term. It's just way more complicated than it should be.


Very comprehensive reply. I want to reinforce one point. I am a proponent of counting/logging food intake. I hear so many reasons/excuses why itís not necessary, but Itís effective.
RE: .  
Spreegal22 : 12/6/2018 9:55 pm : link
In comment 14207803 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
It is really easy to start overanalyzing diet and find all sorts of conflicting info.

Honestly, just keep it simple - focus on balance, moderation, and calorie tracking. Sugars from fruits are fine - it's added sugars you want to avoid.

Normal servings of fruits and veggies aren't going to create inflammatory issues.

Focus on lean protein and veggies. Don't go too heavy on starches... breads, potatoes, etc.

Opt for healthy fats in things like avocado and nuts. Avoid trans fats, fried food, fast food, etc.

If you're a drinker, try to avoid sugary drinks and limit drinking in general.

Drink a lot of water. Water, water, water. No soda or sweet beverages with added sugars, etc.

Keep a regular exercise schedule. Whatever is do-able for you and something you can stick to.

We're at a point now where there's so much nutritional information overload. Fad diets left and right, stuff that yields short-term results but won't hold up long-term. It's just way more complicated than it should be.


Totally agree. I actually majored in nutrition years ago (though im not in the field anymore) i have seen the different schools of thought and fads come and go but I think for long term success itís really about the basics and keeping it simple. Veggies, lean protein, fresh/whole foods vs processed, portion control and physical activity.

Nancy Clark has a lot of good information on her FB page. She has been a sports nutritionist for years- i had her book when i was in high school. Practical and evidence based info.
Precision Nutrition also has a lot of good, sound info too.
RE: RE: and don't forget  
Joey in VA : 12/6/2018 11:18 pm : link
In comment 14207818 Anakim said:
Quote:
In comment 14207814 Rocky369 said:


Quote:


bottled water and salad can now kill you




Hmmmph

Still can't believe we're living in a world where water in water
Anakim : 12/4/2018 1:46 pm : link : reply
bottles and salad are considered dangerous
no two people on Earth ever share similar ideas. It's remarkable how unique every single thought and idea is.
In spite of the frustration there is an answer  
FranchiseQB : 12/7/2018 4:39 am : link
If you have worries about heart health and diabetes you need to at the very least inform yourself about the work of Caldwell Esselstyn and Colin Campbell. Honestly, it is the only diet appropriate for human consumption and it is especially urgent for people with degrading heart health and those that struggle with diabetes. It will seem radical at first but it is the only diet that can stop heart disease in its tracks and totally reverse the effects of diabetes. It eliminates these diseases in almost every subject who has a so-called genetic predisposition of heart disease in their family.

I, like you, struggled to understand what a good diet was because the conflicting information out there was dizzying and contradictory. Do I eat fats and cholesterol? Do I avoid carbs? Do I need a lot of protein? What about dairy? etc etc etc. Here are a few answers.

The diet proposed by Esselstyn, Campbell, Jeff Novick and many others is generally known as a Plant Based Whole Foods diet. It calls for the complete elimination of animal proteins from your diet, including all meat and dairy including fish, eggs (including egg whites), milk, cheeses. yogurt etc etc. You also have to remove all refined carbs. No more white breads and pretty much bread in general with a few exceptions, no more cakes, white pastas, simple carbs and refined carbs are out, even though this is primarily a carb based diet. What carbs are ok? All vegetables except coconut. All fruit is ok as well. Starchy veggies are extremely important as they promote satiation. Potatoes are critical. It is misguided to say potatoes should be eliminated from one's diet. Potatoes are an important and healthy food. However, they need to be prepared in a healthy manner. Frying with oil is completely removed from this diet. And no oil should be consumed at all as it is exceedingly high in fat and promotes degradation of the vascular system.

I know that removing animal protein (all meat and dairy), simple carbs, and oil seems radical. But if you have progressing heart disease and diabetes you ultimately, probably don't have a choice. Low carb protein based diets will help you lose weight at first but in the long run will be deadly as you will struggle to understand why your numbers are out of control. Carbs are what you need, they are the basis of a healthy diet, but it must be the right carbs - veggies, whole grains and beans are almost all good for you in any quantities. The diets that promote protein intake over carbs are completely misguided. Our society is obsessed with protein. We are eating too much protein, not too little. There are literally no cases of protein deficiencies in our society if someone is consuming enough calories on a plant based whole foods diet. Likewise, fat is often promoted as good for your diet. This diet seeks to have you eliminate all added fats and sugars. You do not need a lot of fat to be healthy and have longevity. There are many articles on this subject by Esselstyn and Jeff Novick. Ultimately, if you have progressing heart disease you may need to drop avocados and/or nuts.

This is just an intro. There is plenty of better info out there. The film Forks Over Knives is about this diet and I highly recommend Esselstyn's book Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease. There are answers for you regarding this deadly and frustrating subject. There are thousands of people who have made the switch and it has saved their lives. Many morbidly ill people, some who were given months to live, switched to this diet and have had decades of healthy living.

I have struggled with some of these warning signs and the best I ever felt was when I adhered to this diet. When I went off I would feel miserable and fall into ill health. It is hard at first but there are ways to learn how to cook and enjoy the diet. I can give you more info if you want but I think it is important to know there are answers out there and the benefit can be extra years of great health.

The paleo, high-protein, atkins, diets are all misguided. Atkins is dead. The adherents of this diet are still alive and healthy into very old age.

Hope this helped as I have faced the same quandary.
In spite of the frustration there is an answer  
FranchiseQB : 12/7/2018 4:36 am : link
If you have worries about heart health and diabetes you need to at the very least inform yourself about the work of Caldwell Esselstyn and Colin Campbell. Honestly, it is the only diet appropriate for human consumption and it is especially urgent for people with degrading heart health and those that struggle with diabetes. It will seem radical at first but it is the only diet that can stop heart disease in its tracks and totally reverse the effects of diabetes. It eliminates these diseases in almost every subject who has a so-called genetic predisposition of heart disease in their family.

I, like you, struggled to understand what a good diet was because the conflicting information out there was dizzying and contradictory. Do I eat fats and cholesterol? Do I avoid carbs? Do I need a lot of protein? What about dairy? etc etc etc. Here are a few answers.

The diet proposed by Esselstyn, Campbell, Jeff Novick and many others is generally known as a Plant Based Whole Foods diet. It calls for the complete elimination of animal proteins from your diet, including all meat and dairy including fish, eggs (including egg whites), milk, cheeses. yogurt etc etc. You also have to remove all refined carbs. No more white breads and pretty much bread in general with a few exceptions, no more cakes, white pastas, simple carbs and refined carbs are out, even though this is primarily a carb based diet. What carbs are ok? All vegetables except coconut. All fruit is ok as well. Starchy veggies are extremely important as they promote satiation. Potatoes are critical. It is misguided to say potatoes should be eliminated from one's diet. Potatoes are an important and healthy food. However, they need to be prepared in a healthy manner. Frying with oil is completely removed from this diet. And no oil should be consumed at all as it is exceedingly high in fat and promotes degradation of the vascular system.

I know that removing animal protein (all meat and dairy), simple carbs, and oil seems radical. But if you have progressing heart disease and diabetes you ultimately, probably don't have a choice. Low carb protein based diets will help you lose weight at first but in the long run will be deadly as you will struggle to understand why your numbers are out of control. Carbs are what you need, they are the basis of a healthy diet, but it must be the right carbs - veggies, whole grains and beans are almost all good for you in any quantities. The diets that promote protein intake over carbs are completely misguided. Our society is obsessed with protein. We are eating too much protein, not too little. There are literally no cases of protein deficiencies in our society if someone is consuming enough calories on a plant based whole foods diet. Likewise, fat is often promoted as good for your diet. This diet seeks to have you eliminate all added fats and sugars. You do not need a lot of fat to be healthy and have longevity. There are many articles on this subject by Esselstyn and Jeff Novick. Ultimately, if you have progressing heart disease you may need to drop avocados and/or nuts.

This is just an intro. There is plenty of better info out there. The film Forks Over Knives is about this diet and I highly recommend Esselstyn's book Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease. There are answers for you regarding this deadly and frustrating subject. There are thousands of people who have made the switch and it has saved their lives. Many morbidly ill people, some who were given months to live, switched to this diet and have had decades of healthy living.

I have struggled with some of these warning signs and the best I ever felt was when I adhered to this diet. When I went off I would feel miserable and fall into ill health. It is hard at first but there are ways to learn how to cook and enjoy the diet. I can give you more info if you want but I think it is important to know there are answers out there and the benefit can be extra years of great health.

The paleo, high-protein, atkins, diets are all misguided. Atkins is dead. The adherents of this diet are still alive and healthy into very old age.

Hope this helped as I have faced the same quandary.
In spite of the frustration there is an answer  
FranchiseQB : 12/7/2018 4:40 am : link
If you have worries about heart health and diabetes you need to at the very least inform yourself about the work of Caldwell Esselstyn and Colin Campbell. Honestly, it is the only diet appropriate for human consumption and it is especially urgent for people with degrading heart health and those that struggle with diabetes. It will seem radical at first but it is the only diet that can stop heart disease in its tracks and totally reverse the effects of diabetes. It eliminates these diseases in almost every subject who has a so-called genetic predisposition of heart disease in their family.

I, like you, struggled to understand what a good diet was because the conflicting information out there was dizzying and contradictory. Do I eat fats and cholesterol? Do I avoid carbs? Do I need a lot of protein? What about dairy? etc etc etc. Here are a few answers.

The diet proposed by Esselstyn, Campbell, Jeff Novick and many others is generally known as a Plant Based Whole Foods diet. It calls for the complete elimination of animal proteins from your diet, including all meat and dairy including fish, eggs (including egg whites), milk, cheeses. yogurt etc etc. You also have to remove all refined carbs. No more white breads and pretty much bread in general with a few exceptions, no more cakes, white pastas, simple carbs and refined carbs are out, even though this is primarily a carb based diet. What carbs are ok? All vegetables except coconut. All fruit is ok as well. Starchy veggies are extremely important as they promote satiation. Potatoes are critical. It is misguided to say potatoes should be eliminated from one's diet. Potatoes are an important and healthy food. However, they need to be prepared in a healthy manner. Frying with oil is completely removed from this diet. And no oil should be consumed at all as it is exceedingly high in fat and promotes degradation of the vascular system.

I know that removing animal protein (all meat and dairy), simple carbs, and oil seems radical. But if you have progressing heart disease and diabetes you ultimately, probably don't have a choice. Low carb protein based diets will help you lose weight at first but in the long run will be deadly as you will struggle to understand why your numbers are out of control. Carbs are what you need, they are the basis of a healthy diet, but it must be the right carbs - veggies, whole grains and beans are almost all good for you in any quantities. The diets that promote protein intake over carbs are completely misguided. Our society is obsessed with protein. We are eating too much protein, not too little. There are literally no cases of protein deficiencies in our society if someone is consuming enough calories on a plant based whole foods diet. Likewise, fat is often promoted as good for your diet. This diet seeks to have you eliminate all added fats and sugars. You do not need a lot of fat to be healthy and have longevity. There are many articles on this subject by Esselstyn and Jeff Novick. Ultimately, if you have progressing heart disease you may need to drop avocados and/or nuts.

This is just an intro. There is plenty of better info out there. The film Forks Over Knives is about this diet and I highly recommend Esselstyn's book Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease. There are answers for you regarding this deadly and frustrating subject. There are thousands of people who have made the switch and it has saved their lives. Many morbidly ill people, some who were given months to live, switched to this diet and have had decades of healthy living.

I have struggled with some of these warning signs and the best I ever felt was when I adhered to this diet. When I went off I would feel miserable and fall into ill health. It is hard at first but there are ways to learn how to cook and enjoy the diet. I can give you more info if you want but I think it is important to know there are answers out there and the benefit can be extra years of great health.

The paleo, high-protein, atkins, diets are all misguided. Atkins is dead. The adherents of this diet are still alive and healthy into very old age.

Hope this helped as I have faced the same quandary.
In spite of the frustration there is an answer  
FranchiseQB : 12/7/2018 4:35 am : link
If you have worries about heart health and diabetes you need to at the very least inform yourself about the work of Caldwell Esselstyn and Colin Campbell. Honestly, it is the only diet appropriate for human consumption and it is especially urgent for people with degrading heart health and those that struggle with diabetes. It will seem radical at first but it is the only diet that can stop heart disease in its tracks and totally reverse the effects of diabetes. It eliminates these diseases in almost every subject who has a so-called genetic predisposition of heart disease in their family.

I, like you, struggled to understand what a good diet was because the conflicting information out there was dizzying and contradictory. Do I eat fats and cholesterol? Do I avoid carbs? Do I need a lot of protein? What about dairy? etc etc etc. Here are a few answers.

The diet proposed by Esselstyn, Campbell, Jeff Novick and many others is generally known as a Plant Based Whole Foods diet. It calls for the complete elimination of animal proteins from your diet, including all meat and dairy including fish, eggs (including egg whites), milk, cheeses. yogurt etc etc. You also have to remove all refined carbs. No more white breads and pretty much bread in general with a few exceptions, no more cakes, white pastas, simple carbs and refined carbs are out, even though this is primarily a carb based diet. What carbs are ok? All vegetables except coconut. All fruit is ok as well. Starchy veggies are extremely important as they promote satiation. Potatoes are critical. It is misguided to say potatoes should be eliminated from one's diet. Potatoes are an important and healthy food. However, they need to be prepared in a healthy manner. Frying with oil is completely removed from this diet. And no oil should be consumed at all as it is exceedingly high in fat and promotes degradation of the vascular system.

I know that removing animal protein (all meat and dairy), simple carbs, and oil seems radical. But if you have progressing heart disease and diabetes you ultimately, probably don't have a choice. Low carb protein based diets will help you lose weight at first but in the long run will be deadly as you will struggle to understand why your numbers are out of control. Carbs are what you need, they are the basis of a healthy diet, but it must be the right carbs - veggies, whole grains and beans are almost all good for you in any quantities. The diets that promote protein intake over carbs are completely misguided. Our society is obsessed with protein. We are eating too much protein, not too little. There are literally no cases of protein deficiencies in our society if someone is consuming enough calories on a plant based whole foods diet. Likewise, fat is often promoted as good for your diet. This diet seeks to have you eliminate all added fats and sugars. You do not need a lot of fat to be healthy and have longevity. There are many articles on this subject by Esselstyn and Jeff Novick. Ultimately, if you have progressing heart disease you may need to drop avocados and/or nuts.

This is just an intro. There is plenty of better info out there. The film Forks Over Knives is about this diet and I highly recommend Esselstyn's book Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease. There are answers for you regarding this deadly and frustrating subject. There are thousands of people who have made the switch and it has saved their lives. Many morbidly ill people, some who were given months to live, switched to this diet and have had decades of healthy living.

I have struggled with some of these warning signs and the best I ever felt was when I adhered to this diet. When I went off I would feel miserable and fall into ill health. It is hard at first but there are ways to learn how to cook and enjoy the diet. I can give you more info if you want but I think it is important to know there are answers out there and the benefit can be extra years of great health.

The paleo, high-protein, atkins, diets are all misguided. Atkins is dead. The adherents of this diet are still alive and healthy into very old age.

Hope this helped as I have faced the same quandary.
In spite of the frustration there is an answer  
FranchiseQB : 12/7/2018 4:51 am : link
If you have worries about heart health and diabetes you need to at the very least inform yourself about the work of Caldwell Esselstyn and Colin Campbell. Honestly, it is the only diet appropriate for human consumption and it is especially urgent for people with degrading heart health and those that struggle with diabetes. It will seem radical at first but it is the only diet that can stop heart disease in its tracks and totally reverse the effects of diabetes. It eliminates these diseases in almost every subject who has a so-called genetic predisposition of heart disease in their family.

I, like you, struggled to understand what a good diet was because the conflicting information out there was dizzying and contradictory. Do I eat fats and cholesterol? Do I avoid carbs? Do I need a lot of protein? What about dairy? etc etc etc. Here are a few answers.

The diet proposed by Esselstyn, Campbell, Jeff Novick and many others is generally known as a Plant Based Whole Foods diet. It calls for the complete elimination of animal proteins from your diet, including all meat and dairy including fish, eggs (including egg whites), milk, cheeses. yogurt etc etc. You also have to remove all refined carbs. No more white breads and pretty much bread in general with a few exceptions, no more cakes, white pastas, simple carbs and refined carbs are out, even though this is primarily a carb based diet. What carbs are ok? All vegetables except coconut. All fruit is ok as well. Starchy veggies are extremely important as they promote satiation. Potatoes are critical. It is misguided to say potatoes should be eliminated from one's diet. Potatoes are an important and healthy food. However, they need to be prepared in a healthy manner. Frying with oil is completely removed from this diet. And no oil should be consumed at all as it is exceedingly high in fat and promotes degradation of the vascular system.

I know that removing animal protein (all meat and dairy), simple carbs, and oil seems radical. But if you have progressing heart disease and diabetes you ultimately, probably don't have a choice. Low carb protein based diets will help you lose weight at first but in the long run will be deadly as you will struggle to understand why your numbers are out of control. Carbs are what you need, they are the basis of a healthy diet, but it must be the right carbs - veggies, whole grains and beans are almost all good for you in any quantities. The diets that promote protein intake over carbs are completely misguided. Our society is obsessed with protein. We are eating too much protein, not too little. There are literally no cases of protein deficiencies in our society if someone is consuming enough calories on a plant based whole foods diet. Likewise, fat is often promoted as good for your diet. This diet seeks to have you eliminate all added fats and sugars. You do not need a lot of fat to be healthy and have longevity. There are many articles on this subject by Esselstyn and Jeff Novick. Ultimately, if you have progressing heart disease you may need to drop avocados and/or nuts.

This is just an intro. There is plenty of better info out there. The film Forks Over Knives is about this diet and I highly recommend Esselstyn's book Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease. There are answers for you regarding this deadly and frustrating subject. There are thousands of people who have made the switch and it has saved their lives. Many morbidly ill people, some who were given months to live, switched to this diet and have had decades of healthy living.

I have struggled with some of these warning signs and the best I ever felt was when I adhered to this diet. When I went off I would feel miserable and fall into ill health. It is hard at first but there are ways to learn how to cook and enjoy the diet. I can give you more info if you want but I think it is important to know there are answers out there and the benefit can be extra years of great health.

The paleo, high-protein, atkins, diets are all misguided. Atkins is dead. The adherents of this diet are still alive and healthy into very old age.

Hope this helped as I have faced the same quandary.
In spite of the frustration there is an answer  
FranchiseQB : 12/7/2018 4:42 am : link
If you have worries about heart health and diabetes you need to at the very least inform yourself about the work of Caldwell Esselstyn and Colin Campbell. Honestly, it is the only diet appropriate for human consumption and it is especially urgent for people with degrading heart health and those that struggle with diabetes. It will seem radical at first but it is the only diet that can stop heart disease in its tracks and totally reverse the effects of diabetes. It eliminates these diseases in almost every subject who has a so-called genetic predisposition of heart disease in their family.

I, like you, struggled to understand what a good diet was because the conflicting information out there was dizzying and contradictory. Do I eat fats and cholesterol? Do I avoid carbs? Do I need a lot of protein? What about dairy? etc etc etc. Here are a few answers.

The diet proposed by Esselstyn, Campbell, Jeff Novick and many others is generally known as a Plant Based Whole Foods diet. It calls for the complete elimination of animal proteins from your diet, including all meat and dairy including fish, eggs (including egg whites), milk, cheeses. yogurt etc etc. You also have to remove all refined carbs. No more white breads and pretty much bread in general with a few exceptions, no more cakes, white pastas, simple carbs and refined carbs are out, even though this is primarily a carb based diet. What carbs are ok? All vegetables except coconut. All fruit is ok as well. Starchy veggies are extremely important as they promote satiation. Potatoes are critical. It is misguided to say potatoes should be eliminated from one's diet. Potatoes are an important and healthy food. However, they need to be prepared in a healthy manner. Frying with oil is completely removed from this diet. And no oil should be consumed at all as it is exceedingly high in fat and promotes degradation of the vascular system.

I know that removing animal protein (all meat and dairy), simple carbs, and oil seems radical. But if you have progressing heart disease and diabetes you ultimately, probably don't have a choice. Low carb protein based diets will help you lose weight at first but in the long run will be deadly as you will struggle to understand why your numbers are out of control. Carbs are what you need, they are the basis of a healthy diet, but it must be the right carbs - veggies, whole grains and beans are almost all good for you in any quantities. The diets that promote protein intake over carbs are completely misguided. Our society is obsessed with protein. We are eating too much protein, not too little. There are literally no cases of protein deficiencies in our society if someone is consuming enough calories on a plant based whole foods diet. Likewise, fat is often promoted as good for your diet. This diet seeks to have you eliminate all added fats and sugars. You do not need a lot of fat to be healthy and have longevity. There are many articles on this subject by Esselstyn and Jeff Novick. Ultimately, if you have progressing heart disease you may need to drop avocados and/or nuts.

This is just an intro. There is plenty of better info out there. The film Forks Over Knives is about this diet and I highly recommend Esselstyn's book Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease. There are answers for you regarding this deadly and frustrating subject. There are thousands of people who have made the switch and it has saved their lives. Many morbidly ill people, some who were given months to live, switched to this diet and have had decades of healthy living.

I have struggled with some of these warning signs and the best I ever felt was when I adhered to this diet. When I went off I would feel miserable and fall into ill health. It is hard at first but there are ways to learn how to cook and enjoy the diet. I can give you more info if you want but I think it is important to know there are answers out there and the benefit can be extra years of great health.

The paleo, high-protein, atkins, diets are all misguided. Atkins is dead. The adherents of this diet are still alive and healthy into very old age.

Hope this helped as I have faced the same quandary.
In spite of the frustration there is an answer  
FranchiseQB : 12/7/2018 4:55 am : link
If you have worries about heart health and diabetes you need to at the very least inform yourself about the work of Caldwell Esselstyn and Colin Campbell. Honestly, it is the only diet appropriate for human consumption and it is especially urgent for people with degrading heart health and those that struggle with diabetes. It will seem radical at first but it is the only diet that can stop heart disease in its tracks and totally reverse the effects of diabetes. It eliminates these diseases in almost every subject who has a so-called genetic predisposition of heart disease in their family.

I, like you, struggled to understand what a good diet was because the conflicting information out there was dizzying and contradictory. Do I eat fats and cholesterol? Do I avoid carbs? Do I need a lot of protein? What about dairy? etc etc etc. Here are a few answers.

The diet proposed by Esselstyn, Campbell, Jeff Novick and many others is generally known as a Plant Based Whole Foods diet. It calls for the complete elimination of animal proteins from your diet, including all meat and dairy including fish, eggs (including egg whites), milk, cheeses. yogurt etc etc. You also have to remove all refined carbs. No more white breads and pretty much bread in general with a few exceptions, no more cakes, white pastas, simple carbs and refined carbs are out, even though this is primarily a carb based diet. What carbs are ok? All vegetables except coconut. All fruit is ok as well. Starchy veggies are extremely important as they promote satiation. Potatoes are critical. It is misguided to say potatoes should be eliminated from one's diet. Potatoes are an important and healthy food. However, they need to be prepared in a healthy manner. Frying with oil is completely removed from this diet. And no oil should be consumed at all as it is exceedingly high in fat and promotes degradation of the vascular system.

I know that removing animal protein (all meat and dairy), simple carbs, and oil seems radical. But if you have progressing heart disease and diabetes you ultimately, probably don't have a choice. Low carb protein based diets will help you lose weight at first but in the long run will be deadly as you will struggle to understand why your numbers are out of control. Carbs are what you need, they are the basis of a healthy diet, but it must be the right carbs - veggies, whole grains and beans are almost all good for you in any quantities. The diets that promote protein intake over carbs are completely misguided. Our society is obsessed with protein. We are eating too much protein, not too little. There are literally no cases of protein deficiencies in our society if someone is consuming enough calories on a plant based whole foods diet. Likewise, fat is often promoted as good for your diet. This diet seeks to have you eliminate all added fats and sugars. You do not need a lot of fat to be healthy and have longevity. There are many articles on this subject by Esselstyn and Jeff Novick. Ultimately, if you have progressing heart disease you may need to drop avocados and/or nuts.

This is just an intro. There is plenty of better info out there. The film Forks Over Knives is about this diet and I highly recommend Esselstyn's book Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease. There are answers for you regarding this deadly and frustrating subject. There are thousands of people who have made the switch and it has saved their lives. Many morbidly ill people, some who were given months to live, switched to this diet and have had decades of healthy living.

I have struggled with some of these warning signs and the best I ever felt was when I adhered to this diet. When I went off I would feel miserable and fall into ill health. It is hard at first but there are ways to learn how to cook and enjoy the diet. I can give you more info if you want but I think it is important to know there are answers out there and the benefit can be extra years of great health.

The paleo, high-protein, atkins, diets are all misguided. Atkins is dead. The adherents of this diet are still alive and healthy into very old age.

Hope this helped as I have faced the same quandary.
sorry for the multiple posts  
FranchiseQB : 12/7/2018 4:57 am : link
my page was timing out and when i checked my reply hadn't been added. But then they were all added. apologies.
ask  
mdthedream : 12/7/2018 7:36 am : link
your doctor.
So I burn about 3000 cals a day with my lifestyle  
DC Gmen Fan : 12/7/2018 8:12 am : link
how does one eat to say 2800 or so basically eating leafy greens??
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GMAN4LIFE : 12/7/2018 9:04 am : link



Funny or Die  
Pete in MD : 12/7/2018 11:20 am : link
did a good skit on this.
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GuzzaBlue : 12/7/2018 11:32 am : link
In comment 14207803 arcarsenal said:
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It is really easy to start overanalyzing diet and find all sorts of conflicting info.

Honestly, just keep it simple - focus on balance, moderation, and calorie tracking. Sugars from fruits are fine - it's added sugars you want to avoid.

Normal servings of fruits and veggies aren't going to create inflammatory issues.

Focus on lean protein and veggies. Don't go too heavy on starches... breads, potatoes, etc.

Opt for healthy fats in things like avocado and nuts. Avoid trans fats, fried food, fast food, etc.

If you're a drinker, try to avoid sugary drinks and limit drinking in general.

Drink a lot of water. Water, water, water. No soda or sweet beverages with added sugars, etc.

Keep a regular exercise schedule. Whatever is do-able for you and something you can stick to.

We're at a point now where there's so much nutritional information overload. Fad diets left and right, stuff that yields short-term results but won't hold up long-term. It's just way more complicated than it should be.


^^This. This. This.

Moderation
Limit food that comes in wrapping
Simple exercise plan
Know good calories/carbs between bad calories/carbs (you want carbs/calories for energy)

In the past 120 days I've lost 50+ pounds doing this. Seems unhealthy, but I go to the gym for 1.5-2 hours a day and eat a very well balanced diet.
RE: So I burn about 3000 cals a day with my lifestyle  
FranchiseQB : 12/7/2018 1:20 pm : link
In comment 14208139 DC Gmen Fan said:
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how does one eat to say 2800 or so basically eating leafy greens??


the average male burns 2500 cal per day. So you burn an extra 500. And the diet is not just leafy greens. It includes more calorie dense foods such as fruit, starchy veggies like potatoes, legumes, rice and grains etc. If you are healthy and looking to maintain weight then adding more calorie dense foods like avocado, nuts, tofu etc might be a way to add calories. There are many world class athletes who have no trouble with this diet. Rip Esselstyn who was a triathelete would have a lot to say on the subject.

And here is a link with some ideas:

https://ucdintegrativemedicine.com/2015/04/working-out-on-a-plant-based-diet/#gs.kMZSfrI
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