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For those who say OBJ never takes accountability

ron mexico : 12/6/2018 8:22 pm
Even after throwing and catching a TD, he thinks he had a terrible game. Pretty obvious he is talking about the onsides kick.



"I called him after the game and I was like, Ďbro, I feel like I had a terrible game, thereís things I couldíve done here, but you made my day. That made my day to see you just catch a touchdown.í It was a good feeling. "
uh what...?  
JCin332 : 12/6/2018 8:26 pm : link
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Think you are right.  
section125 : 12/6/2018 8:26 pm : link
I watched that replay and he was stuck. Looks like he got a slow start, did not read the bounce correctly, reacted too late and did not really wish to take the TE head on.
Who called him  
mrvax : 12/6/2018 8:27 pm : link
and do you have a link? Confused.
RE: uh what...?  
section125 : 12/6/2018 8:27 pm : link
In comment 14207938 JCin332 said:
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from the presser today - talking about Russell Shepard calling him after the game.
OBJ has zero experience  
mrvax : 12/6/2018 8:32 pm : link
going up against a TE. Very little experience playing on a "hands" team. His TD pass was a thing of beauty. The Giants have 2 of the best offensive players in the NFL.
Itís from Beckhamís media session today  
10thAve : 12/6/2018 8:59 pm : link
From the thread earlier.

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Q: Do you have to watch your body language on plays like that?
A: I think you got to watch your body language on any plays, but yeah more specifically, I donít want to give it away like Iím about to do something tricky, so anytime you see me catch a reverse, itís all eyes like Ė and they covered him up and I just remember seeing (Russell) Shep running down the field and I was like somethingís just Ė this canít be real. We looked at each other and it was like, this is my guy. I went to college with him. He helped become the man I am today. He was always there for me and to be able to throw it to him of all people. I called him after the game and I was like, Ďbro, I feel like I had a terrible game, thereís things I couldíve done here, but you made my day. That made my day to see you just catch a touchdown.í It was a good feeling.
Every team knows that if they can limit OBJ,  
CT Charlie : 12/6/2018 11:58 pm : link
they limit us. Must be tough to get so much attention and to know it's coming week after week. As for the onside kick, Riley is the one who screwed up, and it was a near-perfect kick.
Beckham  
Hilary : 12/7/2018 6:40 am : link
A truly great athlete.He trains hard and is in shape.He plays hard and cares about winning.A player worth rooting for and paying to see.
The  
mdthedream : 12/7/2018 6:47 am : link
guy in the front row should have got the onside kick. He just watched it go right bye him. The ball was kicked to slow for Odell to get there.
After the Tampa win and great game by OBJ  
joeinpa : 12/7/2018 7:28 am : link
Paul Dottino gushed about what a good guy OBJ was, taking time to thank his offensive linemen for doing such a great guy.

Just another example of someone feeling the need to prove what a great guy OBJ. is.

I donít really understand why some feel the need to defend him.

He is what he is. He s doesnít always seem to be in control of his emotions and sometimes creates a media frenzy with his words and or actions

His comments about wanting to play in New York after signing his huge contract being one such example.

He s a very exciting player, I root hard for him an will continue to do so as long as he is in a Giants uniform.

But if he were in a different uniform most here would believe he s a selfish diva. Who cares. Right now he s a Giant and we root for him, what difference does it make if some donít like his act.

RE: After the Tampa win and great game by OBJ  
giants#1 : 12/7/2018 7:33 am : link
In comment 14208109 joeinpa said:
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Paul Dottino gushed about what a good guy OBJ was, taking time to thank his offensive linemen for doing such a great guy.

Just another example of someone feeling the need to prove what a great guy OBJ. is.

I donít really understand why some feel the need to defend him.

He is what he is. He s doesnít always seem to be in control of his emotions and sometimes creates a media frenzy with his words and or actions

His comments about wanting to play in New York after signing his huge contract being one such example.

He s a very exciting player, I root hard for him an will continue to do so as long as he is in a Giants uniform.

But if he were in a different uniform most here would believe he s a selfish diva. Who cares. Right now he s a Giant and we root for him, what difference does it make if some donít like his act.


Maybe we get articles like this to disprove the perception that he's "a selfish diva". He wears his emotions on his sleeve, but there's little in his career to suggest he's "selfish" or cares more about his stats than winning or not loved by his teammates.
RE: The  
jeffusedtobeonwebtv : 12/7/2018 7:42 am : link
In comment 14208101 mdthedream said:
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guy in the front row should have got the onside kick. He just watched it go right bye him. The ball was kicked to slow for Odell to get there.


Actually, I think the guys in the front are supposed to block so the hand guys in the back can get the ball easily. But, he also did not do that.
There is also the common theme that he thinks  
ron mexico : 12/7/2018 7:43 am : link
It's always someone else fault, th QB, the coach, the scheme and he never blames himself. This quote proves that, at least sometimes, that isn't the case.

You are correct that I shouldn't care what you think about OBJ, I just don't understand how people after weighting all the positives, negatives and quirks aren't really excited that he is on our team.

OBJ takes responsibilty for his actions from what he has shown.  
jsuds : 12/7/2018 7:59 am : link
If you think it is bad that he shows his emotions you're forgetting that football is an emotional sport. I'll take that any day. And as for him blaming others, in some instances there are others that are causing the issues...mainly refs that let him get hit late or no-calls on PI/Holding. The man has to protect himself if the refs won't.
Giants1  
joeinpa : 12/7/2018 8:29 am : link
To be clear, I love OBJ being on the team I root for.

I just donít feel the need to claim he s not what he is. A special talent that sometimes creates distractions.

Yes he seems to be a good teammate. Is he selfish, most wide receivers are.

I donít ever remember people questioning his accountability, I donít.

I just donít care about how he s perceived. Sports is my distraction from real life drama, it s fun, if he helps the Giants win, that s what I care about.

Other than the athlete being a danger to society I donít care about their personal lives.
Sone fans really need their athletes to fit  
Ten Ton Hammer : 12/7/2018 9:22 am : link
Into a certain mold.

He also seems to be something of a target. Fox will replay him 100 times if hes yelling or doing something that could be seen as "distracting", but they won't bother highlighting him doing the little things actual selfish players dont do.
joeinpa - that is a great attitude  
ron mexico : 12/7/2018 9:29 am : link
but your blind if you dont think there are people out there who search for and magnify every misstep and ignore all the positives

There was a minor uproar over his comments after the eagles game even though everybody agreed that Shurmur shit the bed with his play calling / game plan
I didn't want to start a thread on this  
Dinger : 12/7/2018 10:01 am : link
but for as much controversy as he MAY raise, for as much grief as he can sometimes cause he is a hell of a player and teammate. Ok so maybe he didn't lay it all out on the onside kick. Even if he had I doubt he would have come up with it. The Bears player was twice his size and was ahead of him to the ball.

what i want to mention isn't his route running or his pass catching or his TD throwing. Its his blocking. And not just down field. I've seen him on more than one occasion 'crash down' (not sure if thats the right term) on the end of the OL and either block or help block the DE or LB after Eli has pointed to him pre-snap to do so. And he's done it with conviction. For a WR and not a very big one, I think he should be proud of the way he blocks. F, make him a TE and move Engram to WR cause ODB is a better blocker than him. I cant remember a receiver willing and able to block in some unconventional areas. Add that to his list of talents.
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arcarsenal : 12/7/2018 10:41 am : link
Supposedly he also spends 300k per offseason on his body and taking care of himself.

Sometimes I think about all the grief this guy has taken and all of the hand-wringing and arguments over him... and it's just hard to believe. You'd think a player this good who is this committed to his craft and this committed to his teammates and winning football games would be almost impossible to criticize. Yet, not only does he get plenty of shit from the outside - he also gets it from fans of the team he plays for.

Just enjoy the fucking guy. He's an incredible talent and he busts his butt to be as good as he can be. He's not resting on his laurels now that he's been paid. We should all want 50 more Odell Beckham's.
Acarsenal  
joeinpa : 12/7/2018 11:08 am : link
Exactly
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ron mexico : 12/7/2018 11:50 am : link
In comment 14208276 arcarsenal said:
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Supposedly he also spends 300k per offseason on his body and taking care of himself.

Sometimes I think about all the grief this guy has taken and all of the hand-wringing and arguments over him... and it's just hard to believe. You'd think a player this good who is this committed to his craft and this committed to his teammates and winning football games would be almost impossible to criticize. Yet, not only does he get plenty of shit from the outside - he also gets it from fans of the team he plays for.

Just enjoy the fucking guy. He's an incredible talent and he busts his butt to be as good as he can be. He's not resting on his laurels now that he's been paid. We should all want 50 more Odell Beckham's.


I know this is going into tin foil hat territory, and this is likely to be interpreted as a stronger stance then I intend it to. but I feel like there may be some underlying homophobia behind people's reaction to him. He doesn't fit their definition of what a football player should be and it bothers them. Just be clear, I'm not saying OBJ is gay. I have no idea or opinion on his sexuality.
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arcarsenal : 12/7/2018 12:34 pm : link
In comment 14208407 ron mexico said:
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In comment 14208276 arcarsenal said:


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Supposedly he also spends 300k per offseason on his body and taking care of himself.

Sometimes I think about all the grief this guy has taken and all of the hand-wringing and arguments over him... and it's just hard to believe. You'd think a player this good who is this committed to his craft and this committed to his teammates and winning football games would be almost impossible to criticize. Yet, not only does he get plenty of shit from the outside - he also gets it from fans of the team he plays for.

Just enjoy the fucking guy. He's an incredible talent and he busts his butt to be as good as he can be. He's not resting on his laurels now that he's been paid. We should all want 50 more Odell Beckham's.



I know this is going into tin foil hat territory, and this is likely to be interpreted as a stronger stance then I intend it to. but I feel like there may be some underlying homophobia behind people's reaction to him. He doesn't fit their definition of what a football player should be and it bothers them. Just be clear, I'm not saying OBJ is gay. I have no idea or opinion on his sexuality.


It's definitely aspects of his persona that bug certain people. Whether it's that or whatever else - I don't know. There have been minor reasons to be miffed in the past.. the bad day he had with Norman 3 years ago, some of the comments made in public, etc.. but in the grand scheme of things, the amount of hand-wringing over this guy relative to his actual transgressions just don't seem to match up.
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JOrthman : 12/7/2018 7:50 pm : link
In comment 14208407 ron mexico said:
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In comment 14208276 arcarsenal said:


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Supposedly he also spends 300k per offseason on his body and taking care of himself.

Sometimes I think about all the grief this guy has taken and all of the hand-wringing and arguments over him... and it's just hard to believe. You'd think a player this good who is this committed to his craft and this committed to his teammates and winning football games would be almost impossible to criticize. Yet, not only does he get plenty of shit from the outside - he also gets it from fans of the team he plays for.

Just enjoy the fucking guy. He's an incredible talent and he busts his butt to be as good as he can be. He's not resting on his laurels now that he's been paid. We should all want 50 more Odell Beckham's.



I know this is going into tin foil hat territory, and this is likely to be interpreted as a stronger stance then I intend it to. but I feel like there may be some underlying homophobia behind people's reaction to him. He doesn't fit their definition of what a football player should be and it bothers them. Just be clear, I'm not saying OBJ is gay. I have no idea or opinion on his sexuality.


I think that is a bit of a reach. There are certain players who are very polarizing. He just gets a lot more scrutiny because he is high profile, he puts everything he does on social media and he's had some big blow ups caught on camera. Some of his blow ups cost us in penalties or fines.
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