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NFT: Taking a sick day: Did I mess up and is it a big deal?

CMicks3110 : 12/7/2018 11:03 am
So, I called in sick from work today.

I told my boss that "I am taking a sick day, I feel a virus coming on, and I have a family member's wedding to go to, so I didn't think I should try to push through it";

I also noted that I would participate in a 9 am call that I am a key stakeholder in on a project we're working on, and would try to make myself available if anything urgent came up during the day.

He replied that "I'm either sick or not sick, and that If i'm taking a sick day because I feel I might get sick soon, he doesn't agree with that"

I should also add as a caveat that I am taking a two week vacation starting the week after next, and he mentioned that in his e-mail back to me.

The bottom line is, I am sick, but if it were not for the fact that I had an extremely busy weekend, I would have pushed through it, because I would have the weekend to rest and recover.

Another note for context, I have been on this team for 6 months, and had a very good mid-year review, but I was new, so I don't think there was a large sample size to critique me on. However, I think I have continued to produce good work, maybe with a hiccup or two here or there, but nothing major, so I don't think I have had any performance problems.

Was I wrong here to call out sick? Should I have powered through? And if I was? If you were my manager is it a big deal?



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Right or wrong doesn't matter at this point, imo.  
Beezer : 12/7/2018 11:06 am : link
Go to a walk-in clinic. If it's a viral thing, get a doc's note. If it's bacterial, etc., get that PLUS prescription meds. Then you're covered with HR, once you turn that in.

My take.
you were not wrong to call in sick  
YAJ2112 : 12/7/2018 11:06 am : link
you were wrong in what you said to your boss. Never give out excessive details like that. A simple, sorry I don't feel well enough to come in today is more than enough info. You're oversharing is what is causing you an issue now.
You're not wrong to call in sick,  
Section331 : 12/7/2018 11:07 am : link
but I wouldn't have said anything about having a busy weekend. Just tell your boss you're sick and be done with it. Your explanation unnecessarily made it sound like you were making excuses.
RE: you were not wrong to call in sick  
Jints in Carolina : 12/7/2018 11:07 am : link
In comment 14208304 YAJ2112 said:
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you were wrong in what you said to your boss. Never give out excessive details like that. A simple, sorry I don't feel well enough to come in today is more than enough info. You're oversharing is what is causing you an issue now.


this times a million

Keep it simple.
Sounds to me that you re not sick enough to stay home  
joeinpa : 12/7/2018 11:07 am : link
You re getting paid to do a job, do it.

If I m your boss, not a very good look for you.
Or what YAJ said.  
Section331 : 12/7/2018 11:07 am : link
.
What you should have said was  
NoPeanutz : 12/7/2018 11:10 am : link
"I am taking a sick day, I feel a virus coming on, and I have a family member's wedding to go to, so I didn't think I should try to push through it" That's it.

If you are entitled to sick days, it's none of your boss's business what kind of sick or how sick you are. He's your boss, not your doctor.

When you overshared details of your private life with him, you invited him to share his take on the company policy with you. You didn't mess up by taking the day off. You messed up by justifying the day off.

That being said, everybody makes mistakes. The best way to move past this is to learn from the past and come back stronger.
/IMHO
what YAJ said  
giants#1 : 12/7/2018 11:10 am : link
if you're sick, then call in sick. Don't say you feel it "coming on" and don't want to risk it with a wedding coming up.
Never give more that the type of absence you are using  
ron mexico : 12/7/2018 11:10 am : link
Its none if their business. My boss details why she will be taking every day off with specifics, dentist appointment etc...and it makes me cringe, fuck that. I tell my team that they don't have to tell me why they are taking off and frankly, I don't want to know.

Also, the way you worded it made you sound like a pussy.
RE: Right or wrong doesn't matter at this point, imo.  
allstarjim : 12/7/2018 11:11 am : link
In comment 14208303 Beezer said:
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Go to a walk-in clinic. If it's a viral thing, get a doc's note. If it's bacterial, etc., get that PLUS prescription meds. Then you're covered with HR, once you turn that in.

My take.


Good advice, but your boss will still know you're just covering your ass.

You definitely screwed up. Not by taking a sick day, but by not just saying you are sick and being done with it. That's why your boss reacted the way he did.

If I were you, I'd work pretty hard to get back in his good graces. Perception is important, and if he feels you can't be counted on, it will affect your career at this company. Don't take any more sick days unless it's absolutely necessary.
If it were a trend  
jimvinct : 12/7/2018 11:12 am : link
Then your boss could have a right to be annoyed. However, there have been some nasty things going around.

In October one of my employees came into work sick. It wasn't long after that about half of the department was sick (6-7 people). Including me - a three week long cold. No thanks.

Stay home. Or, go to work and use your boss's pen. Sneeze on his TPS reports too.
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arcarsenal : 12/7/2018 11:12 am : link
Yeah, the only mistake you made is that you gave a lot of unnecessary detail. Don't give him anything to question - just say you are sick/not feeling well and leave it at that.
LOL  
McNally's_Nuts : 12/7/2018 11:14 am : link
are you 7 years old?
RE: RE: Right or wrong doesn't matter at this point, imo.  
ron mexico : 12/7/2018 11:16 am : link
In comment 14208319 allstarjim said:
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In comment 14208303 Beezer said:


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Go to a walk-in clinic. If it's a viral thing, get a doc's note. If it's bacterial, etc., get that PLUS prescription meds. Then you're covered with HR, once you turn that in.

My take.



Good advice, but your boss will still know you're just covering your ass.

You definitely screwed up. Not by taking a sick day, but by not just saying you are sick and being done with it. That's why your boss reacted the way he did.

If I were you, I'd work pretty hard to get back in his good graces. Perception is important, and if he feels you can't be counted on, it will affect your career at this company. Don't take any more sick days unless it's absolutely necessary.


this is terrible advice - looks like you are covering your ass and overcompensating. And who would you turn it into?
ok  
CMicks3110 : 12/7/2018 11:16 am : link
more pertinently, is it a big deal? Or is it something that will generally be forgotten about over a relatively short period of time. It's not as if this is a pattern.
im sick  
Giants86 : 12/7/2018 11:17 am : link
ive been up all night throwing up.

Thats it.

I have been on both sides of this. Bosses hate the long
winded reasons etc.
RE: ok  
Giants86 : 12/7/2018 11:18 am : link
In comment 14208328 CMicks3110 said:
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more pertinently, is it a big deal? Or is it something that will generally be forgotten about over a relatively short period of time. It's not as if this is a pattern.


IT WILL BE FORGOTTEN MONDAY MORNING.
Let it go. You sound like me. LOL enjoy the weekend.
Never explain.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/7/2018 11:19 am : link
You should have just gone with the 'I'm feeling under the weather. I'm taking a sick day.'

You offered up too much details.

Also, if you're sick, take the freaking day. I don't get it with us Americans why we feel the need to 'push through'. You're not doing anybody any favors.
RE: ok  
arcarsenal : 12/7/2018 11:23 am : link
In comment 14208328 CMicks3110 said:
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more pertinently, is it a big deal? Or is it something that will generally be forgotten about over a relatively short period of time. It's not as if this is a pattern.


I'm sure your boss has much more pressing things to worry about. It's not a big deal - just keep it simple next time you take one.
RE: ok  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 12/7/2018 11:23 am : link
In comment 14208328 CMicks3110 said:
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more pertinently, is it a big deal? Or is it something that will generally be forgotten about over a relatively short period of time. It's not as if this is a pattern.


Don't sweat it (figuratively). Enjoy the weekend.
RE: RE: RE: Right or wrong doesn't matter at this point, imo.  
Beezer : 12/7/2018 11:24 am : link
In comment 14208326 ron mexico said:
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In comment 14208319 allstarjim said:


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In comment 14208303 Beezer said:


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Go to a walk-in clinic. If it's a viral thing, get a doc's note. If it's bacterial, etc., get that PLUS prescription meds. Then you're covered with HR, once you turn that in.

My take.



Good advice, but your boss will still know you're just covering your ass.

You definitely screwed up. Not by taking a sick day, but by not just saying you are sick and being done with it. That's why your boss reacted the way he did.

If I were you, I'd work pretty hard to get back in his good graces. Perception is important, and if he feels you can't be counted on, it will affect your career at this company. Don't take any more sick days unless it's absolutely necessary.



this is terrible advice - looks like you are covering your ass and overcompensating. And who would you turn it into?


Eh. Bottom line IS to now cover your ass. Maybe keep the doc's excuse in a back pocket and as others have said, work hard to get back in the good graces. If you're solid, shouldn't take much time. Meanwhile, you have your ass covered. Which, regardless of impressions, at least might say you WERE concerned and received medical attention/direction.

I'd still do it.
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Jim in Fairfax : 12/7/2018 11:24 am : link
Maybe in the coming weeks  
DC Gmen Fan : 12/7/2018 11:25 am : link
offer to take on additional work or do something above and beyond to show your dedication.
RE: ok  
Mad Mike : 12/7/2018 11:26 am : link
In comment 14208328 CMicks3110 said:
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more pertinently, is it a big deal? Or is it something that will generally be forgotten about over a relatively short period of time. It's not as if this is a pattern.

I think that's depends more on the kind of person your boss is than on what you actually did. If someone I work with did that, I might be a bit miffed, but assuming there were no issues with their performance, and no pattern of being out sick, it'd be forgotten immediately. I think any decent person would be that way, hopefully your boss falls in that category.
I'd polish  
pjcas18 : 12/7/2018 11:26 am : link
your resume.

this is the beginning of the end of your future with this company.
Calling in sick so you can make the wedding healthy  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/7/2018 11:27 am : link
sucks for your boss to hear quite honestly. Just an incredibly stupid and immature thing to say. Plus you have two weeks PTO coming up?

You not going on your two week trip if you feel a virus coming on? Riiiight.
The two week trip  
CMicks3110 : 12/7/2018 11:28 am : link
is basically the honeymoon I never got to take because my wife's mother was dying when we got married.
Its not something that will get you fired  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/7/2018 11:29 am : link
but managers keep track of stuff like this.

Could tip the scales on a competitive promotion or desired task, you never know.

The best advice is "Make your managers job easier," those are the people that people want to keep.
and the two weeks PTO  
CMicks3110 : 12/7/2018 11:30 am : link
is saved up because I didn't take any time off during the year. So I don't know what that has to do with anything. We have a certain amount of PTO applied each year, and I didn't use it until now.
RE: I'd polish  
SicilianGMEN : 12/7/2018 11:30 am : link
In comment 14208361 pjcas18 said:
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your resume.

this is the beginning of the end of your future with this company.


This....
RE: The two week trip  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/7/2018 11:30 am : link
In comment 14208363 CMicks3110 said:
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is basically the honeymoon I never got to take because my wife's mother was dying when we got married.


Exactly, its important to you. So you would go. This wedding is important to you, so you would go. Work? Not so much.
I completely  
CMicks3110 : 12/7/2018 11:31 am : link
regret it now and will be miserable the rest of the weekend, quite honestly. The rest I needed is now being lost on complete anxiety.
RE: I completely  
pjcas18 : 12/7/2018 11:32 am : link
In comment 14208370 CMicks3110 said:
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regret it now and will be miserable the rest of the weekend, quite honestly. The rest I needed is now being lost on complete anxiety.


Maybe you should start drinking. It's not like you're working.
You posted this here  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/7/2018 11:32 am : link
because you know the truth. Just face up to it.
Go into work now  
SicilianGMEN : 12/7/2018 11:32 am : link
save your job
There's only one way out of this now  
jcn56 : 12/7/2018 11:33 am : link
and it involves getting a picture of you in a suit vomiting on a wedding cake.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Right or wrong doesn't matter at this point, imo.  
ron mexico : 12/7/2018 11:33 am : link
In comment 14208350 Beezer said:
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In comment 14208326 ron mexico said:


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In comment 14208319 allstarjim said:


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In comment 14208303 Beezer said:


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Go to a walk-in clinic. If it's a viral thing, get a doc's note. If it's bacterial, etc., get that PLUS prescription meds. Then you're covered with HR, once you turn that in.

My take.



Good advice, but your boss will still know you're just covering your ass.

You definitely screwed up. Not by taking a sick day, but by not just saying you are sick and being done with it. That's why your boss reacted the way he did.

If I were you, I'd work pretty hard to get back in his good graces. Perception is important, and if he feels you can't be counted on, it will affect your career at this company. Don't take any more sick days unless it's absolutely necessary.



this is terrible advice - looks like you are covering your ass and overcompensating. And who would you turn it into?



Eh. Bottom line IS to now cover your ass. Maybe keep the doc's excuse in a back pocket and as others have said, work hard to get back in the good graces. If you're solid, shouldn't take much time. Meanwhile, you have your ass covered. Which, regardless of impressions, at least might say you WERE concerned and received medical attention/direction.

I'd still do it.


no one is going to ask for verification that you were sick. If they get to the point where they want to fire you a doctors note is not going to help. Just makes you look more desperate and like you are covering up. Why would you go to that trouble given how you previously described your ailment?

If an employee handed my that stuff I would ask him what he expects me to do with that and my opinion of him would drop even further for wasting even more time on the subject.

Just go back to work and pretend like it didn't happen.
The responses here are pretty good  
aimrocky : 12/7/2018 11:38 am : link
on a serious note, don't sweat it... I bet it'll be forgotten sooner rather than later. I'm more amazed that people still bust stones over this. I guess it all depends on your reputation, but my team knows that I'm pretty lenient with time off, as long as they get their job done and don't abuse my leniency. As soon as their performance slips, that leniency goes out the window.
Don't lose sleep over it.  
DC Gmen Fan : 12/7/2018 11:38 am : link
seriously. Just do a good job when you're there.
This is the problem with society and the government rules  
Earl the goat : 12/7/2018 11:43 am : link
There shouldn’t be paid sick days
People take advantage all the time
If you work you get paid. If you don’t work you shouldn’t get paid
This is why I switched my business  
Snifflenick : 12/7/2018 11:45 am : link
to PTO. I did not want to categorize time off (sick days, personal days etc). Bosses look carefully at those who are the most dedicated and take ownership of their position.
RE: This is the problem with society and the government rules  
DC Gmen Fan : 12/7/2018 11:45 am : link
In comment 14208395 Earl the goat said:
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There shouldn’t be paid sick days
People take advantage all the time
If you work you get paid. If you don’t work you shouldn’t get paid


Meh not sure I agree with that. Someone comes to work with the flu for fear of not getting paid, gives it to you, now you get punished? Doesn't seem right.
RE: RE: you were not wrong to call in sick  
BillKo : 12/7/2018 11:46 am : link
In comment 14208306 Jints in Carolina said:
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In comment 14208304 YAJ2112 said:


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you were wrong in what you said to your boss. Never give out excessive details like that. A simple, sorry I don't feel well enough to come in today is more than enough info. You're oversharing is what is causing you an issue now.



this times a million

Keep it simple.


Definitely. Not feeling well, can't make it in today........done.
i'd be pissed if I was your boss  
UConn4523 : 12/7/2018 11:50 am : link
you are sick or you aren't, I agree with him. Just keep it simple moving forward. Telling your boss you feel like you are getting sick was a very poor decision.
RE: ok  
Eman11 : 12/7/2018 11:51 am : link
In comment 14208328 CMicks3110 said:
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more pertinently, is it a big deal? Or is it something that will generally be forgotten about over a relatively short period of time. It's not as if this is a pattern.


Ask yourself this.... If it was the other way around and you were the boss, would you forget about it? I know I wouldn't.
RE: RE: ok  
ron mexico : 12/7/2018 11:56 am : link
In comment 14208408 Eman11 said:
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In comment 14208328 CMicks3110 said:


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more pertinently, is it a big deal? Or is it something that will generally be forgotten about over a relatively short period of time. It's not as if this is a pattern.



Ask yourself this.... If it was the other way around and you were the boss, would you forget about it? I know I wouldn't.


I would forget about it if it was a one off.

RE: This is the problem with society and the government rules  
LakeGeorgeGiant : 12/7/2018 11:57 am : link
In comment 14208395 Earl the goat said:
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There shouldn’t be paid sick days
People take advantage all the time
If you work you get paid. If you don’t work you shouldn’t get paid


And here is today's winner for dumbfuck post of the day.
Are you injured  
Motley Two : 12/7/2018 11:57 am : link
or are you hurt?
immedialtely after i called in sick over the years  
gtt350 : 12/7/2018 11:59 am : link
I would do the twist after hanging up
The only mistake you made  
djm : 12/7/2018 11:59 am : link
Was in believing your boss has a soul and isn’t a blood sucking, over stressed, life sucking asshole. Treat your mgr as the enemy. Disclose NOTHING. Rinse repeat.

Ahh corporate America.
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