So, I called in sick from work today.
I told my boss that "I am taking a sick day, I feel a virus coming on, and I have a family member's wedding to go to, so I didn't think I should try to push through it";
I also noted that I would participate in a 9 am call that I am a key stakeholder in on a project we're working on, and would try to make myself available if anything urgent came up during the day.
He replied that "I'm either sick or not sick, and that If i'm taking a sick day because I feel I might get sick soon, he doesn't agree with that"
I should also add as a caveat that I am taking a two week vacation starting the week after next, and he mentioned that in his e-mail back to me.
The bottom line is, I am sick, but if it were not for the fact that I had an extremely busy weekend, I would have pushed through it, because I would have the weekend to rest and recover.
Another note for context, I have been on this team for 6 months, and had a very good mid-year review, but I was new, so I don't think there was a large sample size to critique me on. However, I think I have continued to produce good work, maybe with a hiccup or two here or there, but nothing major, so I don't think I have had any performance problems.
Was I wrong here to call out sick? Should I have powered through? And if I was? If you were my manager is it a big deal?
The whole day before the 2 weeks off thing can raise eyebrows though... I can provide greater detail of why I'm taking time off because of how long I've worked for him, not that anyone wants to hear it, but I wouldn't have 6 months on the job.
People take advantage all the time
If you work you get paid. If you don’t work you shouldn’t get paid
Oh for fucks sake you suck.
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your resume.
this is the beginning of the end of your future with this company.
This....
Yep.
A guy who says he feels something coming on so he can't work isn't a guy you want to depend on for critical projects.
Plus you imply you value your going to a wedding than your job. Bad choice to say to a boss.
Listen, these are your sick days and you're entitled to take them, but your rationale is pretty weak and you certainly never should have told your boss. "I'm skipping work to rest up for a busy social calendar this weekend" reflects poorly on you.
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There shouldn’t be paid sick days
People take advantage all the time
If you work you get paid. If you don’t work you shouldn’t get paid
Oh for fucks sake you suck.
Ok asshole. You should listen to Larry Birds story about his father
He said he watched his father put on his boots one morning to go to work with a broken ankle
His father said to him. You don’t get paid to stay home
Not that I think it should be carried to that extreme but a lot of people take advantage of the system
Larry Bird said that was the best advice he ever had and he took it with him onto the basketball court where he always suited up whether he was in pain or not
More people should have those values
So my response is that You Suck
That depends on your boss. He is who he is, not whoever anyone thinks he should be.
The problem with what you said is you volunteered up info that made you look like you made what they call a "business decision".
The guy on film who could've made the tackle but pulled up so as not to get hurt. You could've gone into work today but for some intangible reasons, you did not.
I don't want to pile on or make you feel bad. I don't think you're in major trouble or anything but it would probably be best for you too keep this in mind moving forward and work your hardest to make up for it.
Don't dwell on the mistake. Try to fix it and learn from it.
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In comment 14208328 CMicks3110 said:
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more pertinently, is it a big deal? Or is it something that will generally be forgotten about over a relatively short period of time. It's not as if this is a pattern.
Ask yourself this.... If it was the other way around and you were the boss, would you forget about it? I know I wouldn't.
I would forget about it if it was a one off.
This. He may be irked for a few days but as long as he proves his worth moving forward and it wasn't a past issue I think this is a non-issue. Unless you work for EY,PWC, Deloitte, or KPMG. When I was at a big 4 they used to make us come to work with the Flu during busy season and they would put us on a floor with other sick people.
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is basically the honeymoon I never got to take because my wife's mother was dying when we got married.
Exactly, its important to you. So you would go. This wedding is important to you, so you would go. Work? Not so much.
IMO this is the post of the thread. Not only because it sums up the situation, but it is exactly what you told your boss and likely reflects how he will think of you from here on out.
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In comment 14208395 Earl the goat said:
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There shouldn’t be paid sick days
People take advantage all the time
If you work you get paid. If you don’t work you shouldn’t get paid
Oh for fucks sake you suck.
Ok asshole. You should listen to Larry Birds story about his father
He said he watched his father put on his boots one morning to go to work with a broken ankle
His father said to him. You don’t get paid to stay home
Not that I think it should be carried to that extreme but a lot of people take advantage of the system
Larry Bird said that was the best advice he ever had and he took it with him onto the basketball court where he always suited up whether he was in pain or not
More people should have those values
So my response is that You Suck
In that sense, Larry gave poor advice.
As for the OP, you should have just said you were sick and been done with it. Too honest, i'd say.
People take advantage all the time
If you work you get paid. If you don’t work you shouldn’t get paid
Earl, I'll jump on your bandwagon, lol. As the previous owner of a small (6 employees) business, I counted on everyone, especially myself, to be at work every day. I had 2 weeks paid vacation for everyone, but didn't guarantee any sick or personal days. I did generally pay them if they were reliable employees and called in sick, but they weren't assured of that, and it had better not become a pattern. And my people almost always showed up for work. If anyone asked about vacation or sick day policy at a job interview, I passed on them.
And yes, you definitely over complicated taking a sick day.
The bottom line is I am sick, i am not violently ill but I'm sick enough where i don't think I would be productive at work in any way, and now I'm a nervous wreck, which is doubly bad because I just wanted to rest.
I clearly overshared, but my intent in oversharing was to indicate that I wanted to be helpful in case there was any urgent issues. I have 6 Sick Days per Year, I used 2, so i had 4 days left. I saved my PTO days for my honeymoon. I haven't done anything I wasn't entitled to do, other than to state something that made me inadvertently look bad, because frankly, I like to please people. I thought it would make me sound more like a team player that I was willing to do stuff even though I was sick.
I got a very good mid-year review. I would hate to think that a supervisor would throw me out with the bathwater over a miscommunication.
Ok asshole. You should listen to Larry Birds story about his father
He said he watched his father put on his boots one morning to go to work with a broken ankle
His father said to him. You don’t get paid to stay home
Not that I think it should be carried to that extreme but a lot of people take advantage of the system
Larry Bird said that was the best advice he ever had and he took it with him onto the basketball court where he always suited up whether he was in pain or not
More people should have those values
So my response is that You Suck
Is that the same Larry Bird's father who was an alcoholic and committed suicide?
The bottom line is I am sick, i am not violently ill but I'm sick enough where i don't think I would be productive at work in any way, and now I'm a nervous wreck, which is doubly bad because I just wanted to rest.
I clearly overshared, but my intent in oversharing was to indicate that I wanted to be helpful in case there was any urgent issues. I have 6 Sick Days per Year, I used 2, so i had 4 days left. I saved my PTO days for my honeymoon. I haven't done anything I wasn't entitled to do, other than to state something that made me inadvertently look bad, because frankly, I like to please people. I thought it would make me sound more like a team player that I was willing to do stuff even though I was sick.
I got a very good mid-year review. I would hate to think that a supervisor would throw me out with the bathwater over a miscommunication.
You're fine. Don't even bring it up with your supervisor when you return. If he brings it up talk to him privately and explain yourself as you did in this post. I think you're over thinking it. Further, soliciting advise from people on an internet board is going to bring out some unsavory responses geared toward making you nervous.
Enjoy the wedding and your weekend.
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Ok asshole. You should listen to Larry Birds story about his father
He said he watched his father put on his boots one morning to go to work with a broken ankle
His father said to him. You don’t get paid to stay home
Not that I think it should be carried to that extreme but a lot of people take advantage of the system
Larry Bird said that was the best advice he ever had and he took it with him onto the basketball court where he always suited up whether he was in pain or not
More people should have those values
So my response is that You Suck
Is that the same Larry Bird's father who was an alcoholic and committed suicide?
LMAO
So many people who have to capability of working remotely should do so when they are sick.
Don't ruin your weekend over it.
What's done is done. Just bounce back from it the best way you know how.
sure, but not something you ever want to tell your boss, even though he likely feels the same way.
Points to a lack of awareness/discretion.
As most of echoed on here, you did not need to go into all the details of why you were sick or your weekend activities, I just find it odd that you would. I could never understand some people I work with who would go into great detail of their "sickness" the following day when they came in. It almost seemed like they were reading off a script. I believe you know you are in the wrong, hence coming on to a message board to poll everyone.
To be honest, you are on the job 6 months, had a great review. I would not worry about it now, because what's done is done. However, you better believe that your supervisor might look at you differently now.
I got a very good mid-year review. I would hate to think that a supervisor would throw me out with the bathwater over a miscommunication.
Only a very spiteful, immature manager would do this. If you are good at your job, work hard and produce value, your job should be safe. But writing a post like this.. people who are really good/work hard at their jobs don't write this post imo. They know they are secure.
Maybe you should start drinking. It's not like you're working.
I'd listen to him Cmick, he's in pre law.
In comment 14208547 bigbluehoya said:
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Don't we all work to live and not live to work?
sure, but not something you ever want to tell your boss, even though he likely feels the same way.
Points to a lack of awareness/discretion.
Your boss will forget it by start of next week because an employee missing a day just isn't that a big of a deal. The only reason he wrote what he did in the email is you basically flaunted taking the day off in his face.
You not going on your two week trip if you feel a virus coming on? Riiiight.
I hate employees like you. No offense.
To the sh*t list, you go!
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sucks for your boss to hear quite honestly. Just an incredibly stupid and immature thing to say. Plus you have two weeks PTO coming up?
You not going on your two week trip if you feel a virus coming on? Riiiight.
I hate employees like you. No offense.
To the sh*t list, you go!
should mention that i agree with Jim.
That being said, I'm reading between the lines here. This sounds like you are unsure of the relationship with your boss. Aside from the written review, which means absolutely nothing how is your work life ? Are they leaning on you ? Is your work getting criticized ? Does this company have some horrible culture in which taking sick days at all is frowned upon unless you have one foot in the grave ?
The fact you even posted this tells me that you have a poor work situation. You need to ask yourself that. Long term you don't want to be in a situation where you have to ask a football board if its okay to take a sick day.
I never understood why other bosses get so anal about missing a day...big effin deal, tomorrow's another day. Honestly, some people think they're their day to day work activity is life or death...guess what?...ITS NOT!
Working is just a means to the end, work to live, don't live to work!
I don't want any of my reports to come to work sick, stay home!! I don't want to get sick from you. (and to be honest, if you're not really sick, couldn't care less...as long as you don't post a picture of yourself on the beach or in the bar and someone sees it and it comes back to me)
Don't follow up and explain things. You're only going to dig a bigger hole. Just move on and learn from this and the next time you're sick, just call in sick and omit the rest of the excuse.
If you are dedicated, meet your deadlines, and exceed expectations throughout the year, no one will remember this.
What’s done is done work hard the next week before your vacation and when you’re back and this will be a minor speed bump. But If your boss shows future examples of such snappiness you may want to brush off your CV
no reason to bring math into, now you're really going to piss people off.
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There shouldn’t be paid sick days
People take advantage all the time
If you work you get paid. If you don’t work you shouldn’t get paid
Earl, I'll jump on your bandwagon, lol. As the previous owner of a small (6 employees) business, I counted on everyone, especially myself, to be at work every day. I had 2 weeks paid vacation for everyone, but didn't guarantee any sick or personal days. I did generally pay them if they were reliable employees and called in sick, but they weren't assured of that, and it had better not become a pattern. And my people almost always showed up for work. If anyone asked about vacation or sick day policy at a job interview, I passed on them.
You passed on anyone asking about vacation time?
You may have lost some good people potentially.
People deserve (and should know beforehand) what the policy is, including sick time.
Anyone ever quit after they found about your policy? lol
People take advantage all the time
If you work you get paid. If you don’t work you shouldn’t get paid
Poor Earl isn't smart enough to have a career that includes benefits at his job. Everyone take it easy on him - it's not like he has an EAP at his disposal.
This sounds incredibly fake. You love everyone you work with just doesn't sound real, not in a big company. You are either incredibly naive or a complete pushover that's just too agreeable.
And where you are off is common sense. Nothing else. Just suck up a vitamin C tablet and work today. Really thats what should have happened. Or just called in sick without this bogus guilt laden explanation.
You re body of work will speak for itself
I never understood why other bosses get so anal about missing a day...big effin deal, tomorrow's another day. Honestly, some people think they're their day to day work activity is life or death...guess what?...ITS NOT!
Working is just a means to the end, work to live, don't live to work!
I don't want any of my reports to come to work sick, stay home!! I don't want to get sick from you. (and to be honest, if you're not really sick, couldn't care less...as long as you don't post a picture of yourself on the beach or in the bar and someone sees it and it comes back to me)
Hope you're not an ER doc.
Whatev's, if I get there I get there, if I don't no biggie.