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NFT: Knicks Chat: Nets @ Knicks tonight, culture vs culture

nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:42 am
Who cares about wins and losses as long as you have a good culture.

So let the best culture win!!!
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My culture  
chopperhatch : 12/8/2018 1:20 pm : link
Is bigger and girthier than your stupid culture. Just fyi.
RE: My culture  
adamg : 12/8/2018 5:12 pm : link
In comment 14209133 chopperhatch said:
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Is bigger and girthier than your stupid culture. Just fyi.


Are you referring to that gonorrhea culture that's been growing on your junk for the past several years?
Knox getting abused.  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 8:04 pm : link
Welcome to the big leagues, rook.
put hardaway on the bench  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 8:12 pm : link
and the 4 guard lineup was moronic
defense is bad  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 8:15 pm : link
so lets put kanter back in
Did Dotson even get a shot off in 10 minutes or so?  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 8:17 pm : link
Tough with Trier and Timmy out there. I smell four more DNPs in his future.
Clyde and Mike talking lovingly about how  
Beezer : 12/8/2018 8:27 pm : link
Trier is seeing double-teams from teams all over the league now.

That escalated quickly.

Been saying ... Starks 2.0.
so glad hardaway was put back in  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 8:27 pm : link
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RE: Clyde and Mike talking lovingly about how  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 8:28 pm : link
In comment 14209434 Beezer said:
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Trier is seeing double-teams from teams all over the league now.

That escalated quickly.

Been saying ... Starks 2.0.


2 completely different players
Hezonja sucks the big white mint  
B in ALB : 12/8/2018 8:31 pm : link
He's terrible.
Timmy and Enes are like Magic and Kareem out there.  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 8:33 pm : link
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If the goal is to develop  
Dave on the UWS : 12/8/2018 8:45 pm : link
the young players then why is this starting 5 getting so much time. Whether you can win with Mudiay is debatable but Hardaway, Kanter and Hezonja are not and will never be. They don’t play defense or function in a team capacity on offense. 5 min for Knox and Robinson won’t cut it. I know Fiz said the focus isn’t on wins recently but his rotation says otherwise. The only reason I can justify these guys playing is for trade value.
The Knicks play much better when Frank is in the game  
Ira : 12/8/2018 8:46 pm : link
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RE: If the goal is to develop  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 8:50 pm : link
In comment 14209443 Dave on the UWS said:
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the young players then why is this starting 5 getting so much time. Whether you can win with Mudiay is debatable but Hardaway, Kanter and Hezonja are not and will never be. They don’t play defense or function in a team capacity on offense. 5 min for Knox and Robinson won’t cut it. I know Fiz said the focus isn’t on wins recently but his rotation says otherwise. The only reason I can justify these guys playing is for trade value.


because you cant just throw them out there and say go play, they are still the 2nd youngest team in the nba..

Knox was getting pushed around and so was robinson..

Playing them a ton of minutes sounds good in theory, but you cant let them just get bodied and say you are ok go play...
There’s a difference between  
Dave on the UWS : 12/8/2018 8:58 pm : link
a “ton” of minutes and 5 for the half. Barely breaking a sweat is worthless time. They both need 15 t0 20 every night. Some nights they will suck and some they will show promise. These other guys are a complete waste of time.
fizdale is a horrible coach  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:01 pm : link
the zone doesnt fucking work, and you play it against a good shooting 3 point team, it is moronic
RE: There’s a difference between  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:02 pm : link
In comment 14209450 Dave on the UWS said:
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a “ton” of minutes and 5 for the half. Barely breaking a sweat is worthless time. They both need 15 t0 20 every night. Some nights they will suck and some they will show promise. These other guys are a complete waste of time.


they have been getting 15 to 20 a night
This may be the worst  
Dave on the UWS : 12/8/2018 9:03 pm : link
defensive unit I have ever seen. If they are trying to build a culture of defense first ( which was stated in the off season), this is NOT the way to do it.
How about putting Frank  
GMEN46 : 12/8/2018 9:06 pm : link
In and see how the team plays with a good defensive player
16 - consistently?  
Dave on the UWS : 12/8/2018 9:07 pm : link
I haven’t gotten to watch much and I’ve missed some box scores so you may know better than me. Also, do you think Mudiay is aggressive enough? It seems like he’s trying to run the offense, but he has 2 ball stoppers in Hardaway and Kanter. It ain’t gonna work.
I can’t watch  
GMEN46 : 12/8/2018 9:09 pm : link
Kanter and Mario play anymore. Kanter is a fantasy stud but he is so bad defensively.
RE: 16 - consistently?  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:11 pm : link
In comment 14209458 Dave on the UWS said:
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I haven’t gotten to watch much and I’ve missed some box scores so you may know better than me. Also, do you think Mudiay is aggressive enough? It seems like he’s trying to run the offense, but he has 2 ball stoppers in Hardaway and Kanter. It ain’t gonna work.


lately it was more consistent until tonight..

i am biased when it comes to mudiay, i wanted him in the draft...

problem is you have 2 ball stoppers in the starting lineup with kanter and hardawsy
can we put knox in with this lineup  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:13 pm : link
and see 5 young kids please
Frank is in!  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 9:13 pm : link
Historically he's been a Net killer, so let's wait til we're down 15.
Here’s another strange point.  
Dave on the UWS : 12/8/2018 9:14 pm : link
In the off season, management said they wanted to get more athletic. They are starting two of the least athletic players I can remember (Kanter and Hezonja). You can’t play a running offense or play defense with those two so what the hell is the organization doing. Makes zero sense.
RE: This may be the worst  
Anakim : 12/8/2018 9:15 pm : link
In comment 14209454 Dave on the UWS said:
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defensive unit I have ever seen. If they are trying to build a culture of defense first ( which was stated in the off season), this is NOT the way to do it.


If only we had a shutdown guy who can guard three positions
Beautiful move by Knox.  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 9:27 pm : link
Wow.
RE: Beautiful move by Knox.  
Anakim : 12/8/2018 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14209475 bceagle05 said:
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Wow.


Followed by another beautiful move
Knox is on fire!  
Anakim : 12/8/2018 9:32 pm : link
And look at that? All with Timmy riding the pine.
Needs to hit some damn free throws though.  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 9:33 pm : link
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These are the 5 guys  
Dave on the UWS : 12/8/2018 9:34 pm : link
Who should be playing together. They are the future
Mitchell Robinson has to be leading the league in fouls, right?  
Anakim : 12/8/2018 9:34 pm : link
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Eeeek  
Anakim : 12/8/2018 9:37 pm : link
Frank tries to play hero and misses
RE: Mitchell Robinson has to be leading the league in fouls, right?  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14209484 Anakim said:
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And goaltends.
These are the 5 guys  
Dave on the UWS : 12/8/2018 9:38 pm : link
Who should be playing together. They are the future
RE: Mitchell Robinson has to be leading the league in fouls, right?  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:38 pm : link
In comment 14209484 Anakim said:
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he just doesnt know positioning yet, he relies to much on his athleticism rather than moving his feet
Big momentum swing when Dotson's layup rimmed out.  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 9:39 pm : link
The extra pass to Knox for the open three was probably the play there.
Can he become a dominant  
xman : 12/8/2018 9:40 pm : link
rebounder?
Sorry about the dbl post  
Dave on the UWS : 12/8/2018 9:41 pm : link
I see intensity, effort on defense and cohesion on offense. I like Ntilikina at point. He needs a lot of work on his shot, but he knows what he’s doing.
Former Pacer Haywoode Workman  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 9:41 pm : link
with a ridiculous call.
hayward workman special  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:42 pm : link
every knick game he officiates he has a bad call
Robinson next to KP  
Dave on the UWS : 12/8/2018 9:43 pm : link
Is going to be something. We just have to be patient.
High schoolers shoot  
dep026 : 12/8/2018 9:44 pm : link
free thriows better. These teams just have very little talent.
funny play defensive players  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:45 pm : link
and the defense gets better
RE: High schoolers shoot  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:46 pm : link
In comment 14209509 dep026 said:
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free thriows better. These teams just have very little talent.


it is not little talent, it is young talent, knicks have 2 19 year olds, a 20 year old, a 21 year old and 23 year old on the court
Both teams missing their best players.  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 9:47 pm : link
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it will never happen but  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:47 pm : link
mudiay, frank, knox, vonleh, robinson would be a fun starting 5 for the rest of the year
Raise your hand  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 9:49 pm : link
if you miss Kanter and Timmy?
RE: Raise your hand  
nygiants16 : 12/8/2018 9:50 pm : link
In comment 14209517 bceagle05 said:
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if you miss Kanter and Timmy?


i will take a plate of crow on my timmy love earlier in the season
He reeled me in a bit, too.  
bceagle05 : 12/8/2018 9:51 pm : link
He's talented, but too many flaws.
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