FF Saturday - Where I was wrong this year

in my PPR league he's the 6th ranked WR in terms of points.

Thielen
Hill
Brown
Adams
Thomas
Beckham

This league gets bonus points for TD's over 40 yards (and Beckham had two, both passing), but without them he's still #7 and only moves behind Hopkins, still ahead of Julio Jones.

In some time.

I have 2 decisions to make.

WR: Hilton or Golladay (Hilton is banged up, Golladay has PEterson matches up against)
Def/ST: Texans vs Colts or Pitt vs Oak.

Hilton vs Lockett at WR2
Gus Edwards vs Lockett at Flex
Texans D or Giants D

In comment 14209057 pjcas18 said:

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in my PPR league he's the 6th ranked WR in terms of points. Thielen Hill Brown Adams Thomas Beckham This league gets bonus points for TD's over 40 yards (and Beckham had two, both passing), but without them he's still #7 and only moves behind Hopkins, still ahead of Julio Jones.

You would think the 6th WR is no better than a 2nd round pick.

In comment 14209074 allstarjim said:

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In comment 14209057 pjcas18 said: Quote: in my PPR league he's the 6th ranked WR in terms of points. Thielen Hill Brown Adams Thomas Beckham This league gets bonus points for TD's over 40 yards (and Beckham had two, both passing), but without them he's still #7 and only moves behind Hopkins, still ahead of Julio Jones. You would think the 6th WR is no better than a 2nd round pick.

If you add in RB's and TE's (in my league) Beckham is ranked 13th, so I guess technically on the cusp of 1st/2nd round. I don't know any QB's or TE's that were or should have been drafted in the 1st.

Not someone I'd say "see I told you not to draft Beckham.." about.

and by the end of the year Beckham will likely pass Melvin Gordon moving him back into the top 12.

and got laughed at non stop all of draft night. Who is laughing now?

which was poorly received. I nailed that one. I also nailed staying away from Fournette due to his running style, he’s going to be injured every year IMO.

Was taking gronk over hillZ

And miss a game due to suspension? You didn’t know shit, you just guessed correctly. Good job.

There is a zeke or a hunt or a Jacobs back in the day, or a gurley. Those guys run just as hard. They didn’t get hurt. The list goes on and on. Remember when everyone thought shady McCoy was old and done oh say the last five seasons? How’d that turn out? Up until this season he’s been the biggest FF rb steal going.

Old rbs tend to break down. That’s the only gut feeling worth following. The rest of the time you’re guessing.

In comment 14209267 djm said:

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And miss a game due to suspension? You didn’t know shit, you just guessed correctly. Good job.

Need a tissue?

It’s called an educated fucking guess. I’ve been wrong on other players but not with those 2. And it isn’t just guessing, if that was the case it would all be just blind luck which it isn’t.

I have Engram on my team. Was not going to play him tomorrow for a few reasons - emphasis on run game, returning from injury, not getting many targets before injury among them. With OBJ out how likely is he to play more snaps and get more targets? Right now my flex choice is Chargers Justin Jackson. Also have Josh Reynolds. Would you play EE instead?

all had good trade value and you should have dealt them. I had a few of them and dealt them away at some point. Trading is a big part of fantasy football that some people don't use. I am in two leagues a 12 and 14 and finished 1st in both. Draft is a small part of it if you like to trade.

don't reach get trade value.

I needed Beckham this week in the playoffs, now I have to start Golladay.

Only other option would be Keke Coutee. Don't see that happening.

What does Fournette's running style have to do with his injuries? He hurt his hamstring. That has nothing to do with his running style. If you want to knock Fournette cor his injury history then I get it. But knocking him for his running style doesn't make sense to me. What injuries has he had that were from his style of running?

In comment 14209361 robbieballs2003 said:

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What does Fournette's running style have to do with his injuries? He hurt his hamstring. That has nothing to do with his running style. If you want to knock Fournette cor his injury history then I get it. But knocking him for his running style doesn't make sense to me. What injuries has he had that were from his style of running?

How confused are you really?

I simply think he’s injury prone and his violent style of play doesn’t help. He also doesn’t catch passes so all the hits he takes are at the LOS. He’s going to be constantly beat up.

Over David Johnson. First 3 picks were Gurley, Bell, Elliot.

Two dudes in my league laughed and called me a homer for doing so. I'm 12-1 and pretty much killing everyone, so who's laughing now?

I'm in a PPR league. I can use Eckler (vs Bengals), or Josh Gordon (vs Miami). I'm going with Gordon, since Miami always plays the Pats tough and there could be a lot of opportunities for Gordon.

In comment 14209403 Eli Wilson said:

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Over David Johnson. First 3 picks were Gurley, Bell, Elliot. Two dudes in my league laughed and called me a homer for doing so. I'm 12-1 and pretty much killing everyone, so who's laughing now?

This was my biggest error. I wanted to go Barkley at 3 but figured “it’s too good to be true”’and went “safe” with DJ. Wrong....

In my shitty keeper league where I picked last every round. I didn't even try to trade Fournette... just dropped him outright.

is exactly that... he just gets injured too much. Baldwin was a mistake because he was injured in pre-season and my formula says dont draft injured guys unless they are still there at the end of the draft.

I don't like taking chances in the fantasy draft. To me, it is about playing it safe and taking guys who will give you consistent weekly points (not this 24-6-18-4) and guys who stay on the field.... and guys who play on teams that score points. Seems basic until you get all caught up in the moment of the draft, your guy was selected and then a guy who has a popular name is sitting there asking you to draft him.

In comment 14209057 pjcas18 said:

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in my PPR league he's the 6th ranked WR in terms of points. Thielen Hill Brown Adams Thomas Beckham This league gets bonus points for TD's over 40 yards (and Beckham had two, both passing), but without them he's still #7 and only moves behind Hopkins, still ahead of Julio Jones.

Yes I was right about OBJ up until this point. As someone else pointed out, there are a lot of RBs getting picked ahead of him too. His point production to this point says round 2. All could change by the end of the year and what matters most at this point is how he produces in the fantasy playoffs.

I completely agree. I generally stay away from most injury prone player or guys I deem “high risk”.

In comment 14209413 EricJ said:

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In comment 14209057 pjcas18 said: Quote: in my PPR league he's the 6th ranked WR in terms of points. Thielen Hill Brown Adams Thomas Beckham This league gets bonus points for TD's over 40 yards (and Beckham had two, both passing), but without them he's still #7 and only moves behind Hopkins, still ahead of Julio Jones. Yes I was right about OBJ up until this point. As someone else pointed out, there are a lot of RBs getting picked ahead of him too. His point production to this point says round 2. All could change by the end of the year and what matters most at this point is how he produces in the fantasy playoffs.

LOL, Ok, so you had James Conner, Tyreek Hill and Adam Thielen ranked ahead of Beckham and in the 1st round?

Because if you didn't then you were wrong with whoever you did pick there.

nothing like a monday morning quarterback.

Beckham hasn't even been great, but in my PPR league (to this point) he's been the 6th ranked WR and 13 ranked non-QB.

Claim victory on your Fournette prediction or whoever it was, claiming victory on Beckham makes you seem desperate.

In comment 14209451 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 14209413 EricJ said: Quote: In comment 14209057 pjcas18 said: Quote: in my PPR league he's the 6th ranked WR in terms of points. Thielen Hill Brown Adams Thomas Beckham This league gets bonus points for TD's over 40 yards (and Beckham had two, both passing), but without them he's still #7 and only moves behind Hopkins, still ahead of Julio Jones. Yes I was right about OBJ up until this point. As someone else pointed out, there are a lot of RBs getting picked ahead of him too. His point production to this point says round 2. All could change by the end of the year and what matters most at this point is how he produces in the fantasy playoffs. LOL, Ok, so you had James Conner, Tyreek Hill and Adam Thielen ranked ahead of Beckham and in the 1st round? Because if you didn't then you were wrong with whoever you did pick there. nothing like a monday morning quarterback. Beckham hasn't even been great, but in my PPR league (to this point) he's been the 6th ranked WR and 13 ranked non-QB. Claim victory on your Fournette prediction or whoever it was, claiming victory on Beckham makes you seem desperate.

no... I did not have those guys before him. Who knows who is going to to be the surprises. I just did not think this offensive line was going to protect Eli enough for OBJ to be a top 10 fantasy producer. It also is not monday morning QB because I said it before the season.

Hey man, I started the thread naming all of the things I was wrong about. I call out ONE thing where I was correct and you are calling BS on it? How about this...
I dont have OBJ in a single league that I am in. I had an opportunity to draft him three times and chose not to. One of those leagues Dep is in as well and he chose Barkley before OBJ and Barkley had never played a down in the league.

FYI... the year before this there was a discussion about drafting OBJ in the top 5 and I said I would not do it. At that time, it was because there was so much hype about our offense. Engram, Marshall, etc and my concern was his share of the ball. Now, Marshall turned out to be shit and if OBJ did not get hurt, he probably would have crushed it because he would have been the only option in our offense.

either and I did draft Barkley, not sure how that's relevant.

I do have Beckham in a keeper league where I kept him for a 4th round pick (picked him up off waivers last year after he was IR'd), but if I had a 1st round pick near the end of round 1 I very possibly would have picked Beckham and it would have proved to be a good pick.

In my two non-keeper leagues Beckham went 11th and 10th.

My only point was your White prediction was worth praising, saying Beckham wasn't 1st round worthy, not so much. Obviously now that he's missing Sunday it's up in the air, but he was on pace to be the solidly in the top 12 non-QB's. which means you would have been wrong to avoid him.

In comment 14209312 12aob said:

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I have Engram on my team. Was not going to play him tomorrow for a few reasons - emphasis on run game, returning from injury, not getting many targets before injury among them. With OBJ out how likely is he to play more snaps and get more targets? Right now my flex choice is Chargers Justin Jackson. Also have Josh Reynolds. Would you play EE instead?

I'm in a PPR keeper league. This year I kept Goff, Kamara, and Engram. They cost me a 9th, 10th, & 11th round pick this year in that order. I wound up cutting Engram a few weeks ago, and went with Herndon. With OBJ out, and EE full practice, I dropped Herndon for EE this week. Hope I'm right, need points this week, as my teams scoring is down the past 3 weeks, just in time for the playoffs.

In comment 14209580 pjcas18 said:

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but he was on pace to be the solidly in the top 12 non-QB's. which means you would have been wrong to avoid him.

Very true but I was purely basing it on results so far and pointed out that things could change by the time the season ends. It is basically looking at it as "if the season ended today". That's all..

At TE this week with Beckham out.

I still need advice. Pitt v Oak. Or Hou. V. Ind. this choice may make or break my playoff win.

In comment 14209634 beatrixkiddo said:

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At TE this week with Beckham out. I still need advice. Pitt v Oak. Or Hou. V. Ind. this choice may make or break my playoff win.

You really need to ask?