to be fooled by 1 game that goes great or terribly. There’s almost no upside in playing. You are guaranteed to not get injured and that the best possible outcome for these guys.
So he made a wise business decision not to risk injury in a meaningless bowl game. Had it been an important bowl game he would certainly play. He has a wife and daughter to think about. Look at Jaylon Smith for example. He was a top 5 lock before badly injuring his knee is a bowl game.
This stuff happens all the time. Be careful about falling in or out of love with a player based on their agent’s advice. Peyton Manning was known for being a choke artist in college.
So he made a wise business decision not to risk injury in a meaningless bowl game. Had it been an important bowl game he would certainly play. He has a wife and daughter to think about. Look at Jaylon Smith for example. He was a top 5 lock before badly injuring his knee is a bowl game.
This is right. It’s a growing list of players doing the same thing.
It’s very smart, too. These exhibition games are completely meaningless and are significantly more risk than reward.
WRs : Kelvin Harmon, K’Neal Harry, Deebo Samuel
TEs: Noah Fant
QBs: Grier
RBs: Justice Hill
OLs: Donell Greene
DLs: Ed Oliver, Rashan Gary
LBs: Germaine Pratt
DBs: Greedy Williams
These are all his high round prospects exercising great advice.
RE: Seems like a guy whe makes business decisions Â
I'd be the last person to criticize anyone skipping a bowl but I do think Grier may be the first big name QB to do so and that's notable.
And again I'm not counting Rosen in this regard because he wanted to play.
I understand why people get upset when players skip the bowl games but it doesn't bother me unless there are concerns about a players love for the game or leadership ability. This is a meaningless bowl game for Grier in which his LT is also not playing.
RE: It’s an impressive list of players skipping the bowls... Â
WRs : Kelvin Harmon, K’Neal Harry, Deebo Samuel
TEs: Noah Fant
QBs: Grier
RBs: Justice Hill
OLs: Donell Greene
DLs: Ed Oliver, Rashan Gary
LBs: Germaine Pratt
DBs: Greedy Williams
These are all his high round prospects exercising great advice.
That list includes four likely top 10 picks in Oliver, Gary, Williams, and Harry.
So he made a wise business decision not to risk injury in a meaningless bowl game. Had it been an important bowl game he would certainly play. He has a wife and daughter to think about. Look at Jaylon Smith for example. He was a top 5 lock before badly injuring his knee is a bowl game.
This x 1,000.
Jaylon Smith lost a lot of money and could easily have lost his entire career. (Not everyone comes back from that kind of injury.)
Grier is skipping a game that has no bearing on anything. Why should he risk his livelihood?
RE: RE: It’s an impressive list of players skipping the bowls... Â
WRs : Kelvin Harmon, K’Neal Harry, Deebo Samuel
TEs: Noah Fant
QBs: Grier
RBs: Justice Hill
OLs: Donell Greene
DLs: Ed Oliver, Rashan Gary
LBs: Germaine Pratt
DBs: Greedy Williams
These are all his high round prospects exercising great advice.
That list includes four likely top 10 picks in Oliver, Gary, Williams, and Harry.
You’re probably in the ball park. And good call on Cajuste also sitting out. He’s a very frustrating LT prospect. I’ve seen him play outstanding, like a bonafide first rounder, but then look like he’s completely unprepared and incapable of maintaining any level of consistency.
So he made a wise business decision not to risk injury in a meaningless bowl game. Had it been an important bowl game he would certainly play. He has a wife and daughter to think about. Look at Jaylon Smith for example. He was a top 5 lock before badly injuring his knee is a bowl game.
This x 1,000.
Jaylon Smith lost a lot of money and could easily have lost his entire career. (Not everyone comes back from that kind of injury.)
Grier is skipping a game that has no bearing on anything. Why should he risk his livelihood?
Isn't a bowl invitation what teams play for all year long?
If it's meaningless why don't the schools say "no thanks"
when they get invited? Okay, okay, $$$$$$.
Getting to a bowl game is a reward for a team.
If one of my team leaders who I've been playing
with all season long bows out of the "reward game", I'm
pissed! Let's presume I've been blocking my ass off all season long so he can be comfortable in a safe pocket to roll up his impressive stats to be considered a high draft pick...imo the least he can do is to continue
to be my teammate for one more game just as I was his
teammate all season long.
Do I understand star players wanting to protect themselves from injury for the draft? Yes, but it's not
something I'd appreciate as a teammate.
It's not a team move.....it's a selfish move.
You want to quit on your teammates to protect yourself?
Fine, but don't expect kudos for it.
Isn't a bowl invitation what teams play for all year long?
If it's meaningless why don't the schools say "no thanks"
when they get invited? Okay, okay, $$$$$$.
Getting to a bowl game is a reward for a team.
If one of my team leaders who I've been playing
with all season long bows out of the "reward game", I'm
pissed! Let's presume I've been blocking my ass off all season long so he can be comfortable in a safe pocket to roll up his impressive stats to be considered a high draft pick...imo the least he can do is to continue
to be my teammate for one more game just as I was his
teammate all season long.
Do I understand star players wanting to protect themselves from injury for the draft? Yes, but it's not
something I'd appreciate as a teammate.
It's not a team move.....it's a selfish move.
You want to quit on your teammates to protect yourself?
Fine, but don't expect kudos for it.
I'm sure if your kid was about to go pro and be a 1st round pick but then suffers a major injury costing him millions of dollars you will just be happy that he played in the meaningless bowl game for his teammates that he will never play with again. Hey at least the university made even more money from your son while he won't see a penny of it!
Isn't a bowl invitation what teams play for all year long?
If it's meaningless why don't the schools say "no thanks"
when they get invited? Okay, okay, $$$$$$.
Getting to a bowl game is a reward for a team.
If one of my team leaders who I've been playing
with all season long bows out of the "reward game", I'm
pissed! Let's presume I've been blocking my ass off all season long so he can be comfortable in a safe pocket to roll up his impressive stats to be considered a high draft pick...imo the least he can do is to continue
to be my teammate for one more game just as I was his
teammate all season long.
Do I understand star players wanting to protect themselves from injury for the draft? Yes, but it's not
something I'd appreciate as a teammate.
It's not a team move.....it's a selfish move.
You want to quit on your teammates to protect yourself?
Fine, but don't expect kudos for it.
Oh, please. It's college football. Another component of the NCAA cartel that exploits its labor to maximize their revenue.
These players should be applauded as they make these business decisions. It's protecting the opportunity to maximize one's earning potential. A chance to make money that could significantly alter someone's family in a very positive way.
If your son was a highly touted draft prospect you'd encourage the same thing - unless your a complete fool.
Played a meaningless senior season. Think it says at least a little to play in a meaningless archaic bowl game that might have made sense before the age of cheap air travel.
on this thread. Ask Jaylon Smith or Willis McGahee or Marcus Lattimore if playing in a meaningless bowl game is a good idea when you're about to make 20 million dollars if you don't get hurt. Grier is 100% doing the right thing.
And he will go #1 overall.( He could have played this season)
If you are not in the top 4 this is the equivalent of a preseason game.
It's a smart call and I am surprised more don't do it.
Expand the playoffs if you want to add value to other games.
Probably having a wife and daughter played into the decision.
Go watch Alex Smith break his leg then tell this kid to risk millions by playing. It's a business afterall
qft
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to lead our team into the future.
Go watch Alex Smith break his leg then tell this kid to risk millions by playing. It's a business afterall
Agreed. I have no problem with him skipping the game.
I get it, but don't think it's going to help him in the long run.
Darnold played against Ohio State.
Rosen lobbied hard to play but UCLA doctors wouldn't let him because of concussion.
Justin Herbert has announced that he will play.
Not that anyone should be criticized for the decision.
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Rosen did. Didn't Sam Darnold? More guys should do it.
Darnold played against Ohio State.
Rosen lobbied hard to play but UCLA doctors wouldn't let him because of concussion.
Justin Herbert has announced that he will play.
Not that anyone should be criticized for the decision.
Herbert might go back to school next year so if he is really undecided then of course he is going to play in the bowl game.
This stuff happens all the time. Be careful about falling in or out of love with a player based on their agent’s advice. Peyton Manning was known for being a choke artist in college.
look for Talent above all else.
This is right. It’s a growing list of players doing the same thing.
It’s very smart, too. These exhibition games are completely meaningless and are significantly more risk than reward.
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Rosen did. Didn't Sam Darnold? More guys should do it.
Darnold played against Ohio State.
Rosen lobbied hard to play but UCLA doctors wouldn't let him because of concussion.
Justin Herbert has announced that he will play.
Not that anyone should be criticized for the decision.
Herbert might go back to school next year so if he is really undecided then of course he is going to play in the bowl game.
I'm quite sure Herbert knows what he is going to do at this point.
I mentioned him because he made an announcement that he was playing the bowl after leaving his last game with a shoulder injury.
I'd be the last person to criticize anyone skipping a bowl but I do think Grier may be the first big name QB to do so and that's notable.
I'd be the last person to criticize anyone skipping a bowl but I do think Grier may be the first big name QB to do so and that's notable.
And again I'm not counting Rosen in this regard because he wanted to play.
TEs: Noah Fant
QBs: Grier
RBs: Justice Hill
OLs: Donell Greene
DLs: Ed Oliver, Rashan Gary
LBs: Germaine Pratt
DBs: Greedy Williams
These are all his high round prospects exercising great advice.
It’s not, and they don’t.
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I'd be the last person to criticize anyone skipping a bowl but I do think Grier may be the first big name QB to do so and that's notable.
And again I'm not counting Rosen in this regard because he wanted to play.
I understand why people get upset when players skip the bowl games but it doesn't bother me unless there are concerns about a players love for the game or leadership ability. This is a meaningless bowl game for Grier in which his LT is also not playing.
TEs: Noah Fant
QBs: Grier
RBs: Justice Hill
OLs: Donell Greene
DLs: Ed Oliver, Rashan Gary
LBs: Germaine Pratt
DBs: Greedy Williams
These are all his high round prospects exercising great advice.
That list includes four likely top 10 picks in Oliver, Gary, Williams, and Harry.
This x 1,000.
Jaylon Smith lost a lot of money and could easily have lost his entire career. (Not everyone comes back from that kind of injury.)
Grier is skipping a game that has no bearing on anything. Why should he risk his livelihood?
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WRs : Kelvin Harmon, K’Neal Harry, Deebo Samuel
TEs: Noah Fant
QBs: Grier
RBs: Justice Hill
OLs: Donell Greene
DLs: Ed Oliver, Rashan Gary
LBs: Germaine Pratt
DBs: Greedy Williams
These are all his high round prospects exercising great advice.
That list includes four likely top 10 picks in Oliver, Gary, Williams, and Harry.
You’re probably in the ball park. And good call on Cajuste also sitting out. He’s a very frustrating LT prospect. I’ve seen him play outstanding, like a bonafide first rounder, but then look like he’s completely unprepared and incapable of maintaining any level of consistency.
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So he made a wise business decision not to risk injury in a meaningless bowl game. Had it been an important bowl game he would certainly play. He has a wife and daughter to think about. Look at Jaylon Smith for example. He was a top 5 lock before badly injuring his knee is a bowl game.
This x 1,000.
Jaylon Smith lost a lot of money and could easily have lost his entire career. (Not everyone comes back from that kind of injury.)
Grier is skipping a game that has no bearing on anything. Why should he risk his livelihood?
Bingo!
This x 1,000.
Jaylon Smith lost a lot of money and could easily have lost his entire career. (Not everyone comes back from that kind of injury.)
Grier is skipping a game that has no bearing on anything. Why should he risk his livelihood?
Jake Butt, too. Guy may have been a first round TE but then crushed his ACL in the Orange Bowl. Slipped all the way to the 5th round.
If it's meaningless why don't the schools say "no thanks"
when they get invited? Okay, okay, $$$$$$.
Getting to a bowl game is a reward for a team.
If one of my team leaders who I've been playing
with all season long bows out of the "reward game", I'm
pissed! Let's presume I've been blocking my ass off all season long so he can be comfortable in a safe pocket to roll up his impressive stats to be considered a high draft pick...imo the least he can do is to continue
to be my teammate for one more game just as I was his
teammate all season long.
Do I understand star players wanting to protect themselves from injury for the draft? Yes, but it's not
something I'd appreciate as a teammate.
It's not a team move.....it's a selfish move.
You want to quit on your teammates to protect yourself?
Fine, but don't expect kudos for it.
If it's meaningless why don't the schools say "no thanks"
when they get invited? Okay, okay, $$$$$$.
Getting to a bowl game is a reward for a team.
If one of my team leaders who I've been playing
with all season long bows out of the "reward game", I'm
pissed! Let's presume I've been blocking my ass off all season long so he can be comfortable in a safe pocket to roll up his impressive stats to be considered a high draft pick...imo the least he can do is to continue
to be my teammate for one more game just as I was his
teammate all season long.
Do I understand star players wanting to protect themselves from injury for the draft? Yes, but it's not
something I'd appreciate as a teammate.
It's not a team move.....it's a selfish move.
You want to quit on your teammates to protect yourself?
Fine, but don't expect kudos for it.
I'm sure if your kid was about to go pro and be a 1st round pick but then suffers a major injury costing him millions of dollars you will just be happy that he played in the meaningless bowl game for his teammates that he will never play with again. Hey at least the university made even more money from your son while he won't see a penny of it!
Who said he's scared?
What a dumb comment.
If it's meaningless why don't the schools say "no thanks"
when they get invited? Okay, okay, $$$$$$.
Getting to a bowl game is a reward for a team.
If one of my team leaders who I've been playing
with all season long bows out of the "reward game", I'm
pissed! Let's presume I've been blocking my ass off all season long so he can be comfortable in a safe pocket to roll up his impressive stats to be considered a high draft pick...imo the least he can do is to continue
to be my teammate for one more game just as I was his
teammate all season long.
Do I understand star players wanting to protect themselves from injury for the draft? Yes, but it's not
something I'd appreciate as a teammate.
It's not a team move.....it's a selfish move.
You want to quit on your teammates to protect yourself?
Fine, but don't expect kudos for it.
Oh, please. It's college football. Another component of the NCAA cartel that exploits its labor to maximize their revenue.
These players should be applauded as they make these business decisions. It's protecting the opportunity to maximize one's earning potential. A chance to make money that could significantly alter someone's family in a very positive way.
If your son was a highly touted draft prospect you'd encourage the same thing - unless your a complete fool.
Who would you compare Grier to? Is Derek Carr a fair comp?
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Kid makes the right decision, and people here think he’s afraid to play a team?
Who said he's scared?
What a dumb comment.
The OP did.
Try to keep up, B.
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Kid makes the right decision, and people here think he’s afraid to play a team?
Who said he's scared?
What a dumb comment.
The OP did.
Try to keep up, B.
My scared comment had nothing to do with getting hurt... but not playing a big 12 defense 😂
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In comment 14209334 GiantGolfer said:
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Kid makes the right decision, and people here think he’s afraid to play a team?
Who said he's scared?
What a dumb comment.
The OP did.
Try to keep up, B.
You posted that there are multiple people on this thread claiming he's scared. That's simply not true.
Try to be honest that your post was horseshit, Golf.
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In comment 14209339 B in ALB said:
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In comment 14209334 GiantGolfer said:
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Kid makes the right decision, and people here think he’s afraid to play a team?
Who said he's scared?
What a dumb comment.
The OP did.
Try to keep up, B.
You posted that there are multiple people on this thread claiming he's scared. That's simply not true.
Try to be honest that your post was horseshit, Golf.
Sorry, I should’ve said “OP”, instead of “people”. Thanks for the correcting my mistake.
Thread is still fucking dumb.
If you are not in the top 4 this is the equivalent of a preseason game.
It's a smart call and I am surprised more don't do it.
Expand the playoffs if you want to add value to other games.
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