I found this pretty interesting. They have Jawaan Taylor of Florida as the #1 OT in this class. What they wrote:
"12/8/18: Taylor has been excellent for the Gators in 2018. He has been steady in pass protection and as a tough run blocker. In speaking to team sources after the end of the regular season, multiple teams say they have Taylor as the top offensive line prospect for the 2019 NFL Draft. They feel that Taylor will be the first blocker drafted and could go high in the first round.
Team sources love Taylor's combination of size, movement skills, and strength. Sources feel that 6-foot-5, 340-pounder has an excellent skill set with upside to be a top tackle in the NFL.
Here's what one national scout texted me about Taylor, "I bet you Jawaan Taylor is the first tackle to go in the draft if he comes out. I haven't seen him hardly anywhere from the experts, haha." In speaking to a general manager of a team in need of tackle help, they said that Taylor was their top offensive tackle prospect as well. While it is still early in the 2019 NFL Draft process, entering the offseason portion multiple NFL teams have Taylor as a their top-rated offensive lineman and think he could be a high first-round pick."
Just as surprising is what they wrote about Jonah Williams of Alabama, who they have as the #3 OT in the class, behind Taylor and Greg Little of Ole Miss:
"12/8/18: Williams has played well for Alabama, and some team sources say they have graded Williams as a late first-round pick, while others graded him in the second round. He is a smart blocker who is steady and reliable. Team sources say they are projecting Williams to right tackle or guard, and think he would only be an emergency left tackle who could finish out a game because he's smart, but teams wouldn't want him to start at left tackle in the NFL."
The knock on Williams is that, like Justin Pugh in 2013, while he has excellent technique and feet, he doesn't have the arm length and is lighter and smaller than you'd like in a franchise LT.
The Taylor report took me by surprise. He has experience at both LT and RT and played very well against Brian Burns a couple of weeks back, but the kid is so undisciplined. He commits so many penalties, mainly due to poor technique.
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Danish kid who playedon the same team as me (not the same year though).
He is a Giants fan and when in Denmark he lives 5 minutes from me. Great GREAT character.
Danish kid who playedon the same team as me (not the same year though).
He is a Giants fan and when in Denmark he lives 5 minutes from me. Great GREAT character.
Interesting comment. How did he get to Arkansas? He is highly rated at this point in the process.
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But I am really hoping the Giants draft G Hjalte Froholdt from Arkansas.
Danish kid who playedon the same team as me (not the same year though).
He is a Giants fan and when in Denmark he lives 5 minutes from me. Great GREAT character.
Interesting comment. How did he get to Arkansas? He is highly rated at this point in the process.
He is a beast.
He went to high school as an exchange student in Ohio. It wasn't as a football player but a lot of Danish and European kids go after they finish the public school system here. He had played for fun here in Denmark for my club The Svendborg Admirals (where we as of this moment have kids and adults playing together - not games but practices. I think there are 15 players in total).
Then he was discovered by the IMG academy where he worked his butt off. And he became strong as an ox.
One of my very best friends used to work out with him and he is a former bouncer and power lifter. As a 17 year old kid, Hjalte was outworking my friend in the gym.
Arkansas along with a lot of powerhouse colleges started recruiting him at IMG. I believe Hjalte chose Arkansas because of coach Beliema (sp) and the general atmosphere at the school.
Height: 6-4. Weight: 304.
Projected 40 Time: 5.05.
Projected Round (2019): 1-3.
12/8/18: Jenkins has been a steady blocker in the middle of the Mississippi State offensive line this season. His strong play earned him an invitation to the Senior Bowl.
At the point of attack, Jenkins is quick to the second level and does a nice job of beating defenders to a spot to wall them off. He is quick, agile, and athletic on the inside with the ability to fire to the second level. Jenkins is very effective at double-team combo blocks with guards and is reliable to get gaps open with his double-team skills. In pass protection, Jenkins has a good anchor with the size to handle bull rushes. He may not grade out as a first-round pick, but he could be a good second-day selection who is a plug-and-play starter in the NFL.
8/28/18: According to NFL teams' preseason data provided by team sources, Jenkins checks in at 6-foot-4, 304 pounds. He is said to run the 40 in a quick 5.05 seconds. His arms measure at 34.25 inches, his hands at 10.13 inches, and his wing span at 83.38 inches.
Jenkins is a athletic and quick interior blocker who has been very impressive for the Bulldogs over the past two seasons. Sources who have done some advance work for the 2019 NFL Draft say that Jenkins has impressed them and possesses early-round potential. Jenkins has good size to be a starting center in the NFL, and it will be interesting to see how he handles the change in offense under the new Mississippi State coaching staff.
Solder has been much better recently. He isn't ideal but he is a guy you can win with. I'm okay with drafting a guy who can play LT but he also needs to be able to play RT early on otherwise it is not a good allocation of resources.
I do agree that pass rusher is high on the list and definitely a legit possibility for us because of the handful of guys in the draft. If I had to guess at what position we'd take considering the value and our need I would lean toward one of OL, ER, QB.
As for Brown, he is better than what we had out there, but should be replaced.....we still need 3 OLmen.....I don't think we can address all 3, so Brown would be the lesser of the evils......but I wouldn't overpay to keep him....
There are so many holes on offense and defense, they can't all be filled with the proper players......we will still have some bottom feeders out there, and hopefully they can manage to hold their own....
I hope it doesn't have an adverse effect. They did very well last year.
Especially on oline, I would avoid the high ceiling low floor guys with a high pick, probably because I'm once bitten, twice shy with Funeral Flowers. That dude set this team back 5 years.
I'm tired of the versatility argument. Sy last year knocked Hernandez for his lack of versatility. As an organization before DG, we looked for the versatility. But then you are left with a Jack of All Trades - Master of None. Pugh is a perfect example. Adequate at all the positions, but not good at any of them. When drafting a starter, I would prefer a player that only knows his position and will do it well. No scholarships. Hernandez is a perfect example. If you are drafting depth, then you want to look for the versatility. Your depth needs to be able to step into different positions on the line and be adequate. A starter needs to play the position they are drafted for and not be concerned about being able to play other positions.
Diehl was tremendously valuable, could do yeoman's work at LT, although speedy ER's like Ware turned him into a tutnstile.
And versatility is important in today's nfl, why Bellichek values it so highly.
I think Hernandez was really unpolished, and may have fit better as the RG, leaving Omameh for LG. Hernandez has developed as the season has gone on, but he was so unpolished to start with that he really could have developed just as well at RG. As it turned out, Omameh couldn't cut it at RG but appeared to have been a decent LG for Jsx and didn't look bad in OTAs before Hernandez came in.
Oh well!
If I draft a 4-3 DE in the first and he can play DT I am not putting him at DT to get a lesser player at DE. Passing downs are obviously different and maybe it isn't a great argument but I look at Tuck. Tuck should not have ever been a permanent DT just because we had other guys at DE. And Tucm wasn't. He slid over to DT on passing downs which is perfectly fine but that is something the OL cannot do.
Teams like the versatility aspect because like Acorsi said with OTs. If they don't work out you could always try them at guard so it was like hedging your bet. At the same time, ai don't want to be moving a guy around because he failed at a position. To me, technique and balance, and being a heads up player are way more important along the OL than physical traits and potential.
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he has started at both OT and C. He started out at center where he played very well. He could be the long term answer there while also providing excellent versatility as he is believed to be able to play guard as well.
I'm tired of the versatility argument. Sy last year knocked Hernandez for his lack of versatility. As an organization before DG, we looked for the versatility. But then you are left with a Jack of All Trades - Master of None. Pugh is a perfect example. Adequate at all the positions, but not good at any of them. When drafting a starter, I would prefer a player that only knows his position and will do it well. No scholarships. Hernandez is a perfect example. If you are drafting depth, then you want to look for the versatility. Your depth needs to be able to step into different positions on the line and be adequate. A starter needs to play the position they are drafted for and not be concerned about being able to play other positions.
I am in agreement on the jack of all trades master of none argument. That does not apply to Risner and he will be a day two pick not a 1st rounder. Risner has proven that he could be a very good center in the NFL who also has the upside to be a good starting LT or RT. That is huge for the Giants because they could start him out at center with the option of moving him outside in the future IF they wished.
Hell, Barkley has a few negative plays...do we need another RB too?
Nobody has pro bowl players from tackle to tackle. Brown solidified this OL and the only OL urgency is at RT.
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As for Brown, he is better than what we had out there, but should be replaced.....we still need 3 OLmen.....I don't think we can address all 3, so Brown would be the lesser of the evils......but I wouldn't overpay to keep him....
There are so many holes on offense and defense, they can't all be filled with the proper players......we will still have some bottom feeders out there, and hopefully they can manage to hold their own....
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I think Hernandez was really unpolished, and may have fit better as the RG, leaving Omameh for LG. Hernandez has developed as the season has gone on, but he was so unpolished to start with that he really could have developed just as well at RG. As it turned out, Omameh couldn't cut it at RG but appeared to have been a decent LG for Jsx and didn't look bad in OTAs before Hernandez came in.
Oh well!
Did you not watch the Thursday nite game? Makes no difference if Omameh plays RG or LG, he's bad!
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This is ridiculous. Brown wasn’t cut for sucking.
Who said Brown sucks? I said Halapio sucks....
We need a C and RT.....Brown is serviceable.....if you don't believe me, read some of Sy's game summaries....
I agree, I just don't think there will be an OL with a high enough grade. I think the 1st round pick will be either a pass rusher, QB, or CB.
Yes. Day 1 starter at LG. Never played anywhere else. Don't try and make him fit a preconceived stereotype. He is a LG. Played nothing but LG. And should only play LG going forward.