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Earl the goat : 12/9/2018 6:51 pm
Will Frank get more playing time tonight ?

Will Kemba have a huge game in front of the hometown crowd ?
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ISO Zo  
Earl the goat : 12/9/2018 6:55 pm : link
Out tonight
My take on how Fizdale has handled everyone’s minutes  
djm : 12/9/2018 6:55 pm : link
I definitely understand it. I think he’d rather play these guys in bunches and see how they resond with a lot of minutes in batches of games rather than play everyone just a little bit every night. It’s impossible to get into a groove if you’re only playing 5-10 min a night. With all these guards on the team it’s impossible to play everyone msjor minutes every single game. Might as well bench the struggling player for a week or so and get someone else a lot of burn then switch it back to the struggling player when the time is right.
This year is all about development and gaining another nice draft pick  
steve in ky : 12/9/2018 6:56 pm : link
Frank should be back in the rotation. He is their best defender and looks to get his teammates involved, which this team needs more of. They need to see if given enough minuets his offense will continue to grow. Why not give him time this season and find out by next?
There was an article out yesterday I think  
adamg : 12/9/2018 6:59 pm : link
That reiterated a point I've been thinking about for a couple weeks now, and it's that when KP comes back, who would be best at PG? Frank is clearly the guy who offers the most potential at point of any of the guys we have especially when KP is on the floor.

(I should say I think it was a Bondy article, so I wasn't looking to plug that. Not a big Bondy guy.)
RE: My take on how Fizdale has handled everyone’s minutes  
Del Shofner : 12/9/2018 7:13 pm : link
In comment 14211483 djm said:
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I definitely understand it. I think he’d rather play these guys in bunches and see how they resond with a lot of minutes in batches of games rather than play everyone just a little bit every night. It’s impossible to get into a groove if you’re only playing 5-10 min a night. With all these guards on the team it’s impossible to play everyone msjor minutes every single game. Might as well bench the struggling player for a week or so and get someone else a lot of burn then switch it back to the struggling player when the time is right.


Agree with this. Took a little getting used but I think it's a valid approach. Everyone he's benched has come back better.
Vonleh was a good signing  
steve in ky : 12/9/2018 7:59 pm : link
He is a good player. He does a lot of things well.
Robinson is a beast  
adamg : 12/9/2018 8:02 pm : link
2 blocks already
Anyone else see clip of Luke Kornet's sister?  
steve in ky : 12/9/2018 8:05 pm : link
She can really shoot the ball!

I can't get it to post but here is the link.
Link - ( New Window )
What move did the Knicks make  
Carl in CT : 12/9/2018 8:06 pm : link
For Trier’s two way contract? Everyone said a move was necessary. I didn’t see one.
RE: What move did the Knicks make  
adamg : 12/9/2018 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14211780 Carl in CT said:
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For Trier’s two way contract? Everyone said a move was necessary. I didn’t see one.


I had read an article that said the 6th was the deadline, so I said that here. Looking online again, there's another article that says the deadline is the 15th. So, I guess that other article was bs.
RE: What move did the Knicks make  
Del Shofner : 12/9/2018 8:10 pm : link
In comment 14211780 Carl in CT said:
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For Trier’s two way contract? Everyone said a move was necessary. I didn’t see one.


I've been wondering that too.
Knox looking much more comfortable.  
bceagle05 : 12/9/2018 8:18 pm : link
Parker schooling Frank.
RE: RE: What move did the Knicks make  
steve in ky : 12/9/2018 8:20 pm : link
In comment 14211785 Del Shofner said:
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For Trier’s two way contract? Everyone said a move was necessary. I didn’t see one.



I've been wondering that too.


I think the date they need to make room on the roster is Dec 15th
Kemba loves the Garden  
B in ALB : 12/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
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Knox looks good  
adamg : 12/9/2018 8:30 pm : link
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RE: Knox looks good  
steve in ky : 12/9/2018 8:46 pm : link
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Yeah it seems like he really used that critical article about him he for some motivation. Many a great athlete used external things to self motivate, it's a good sign he can do that.
Hardaway just plays zero defense  
Earl the goat : 12/9/2018 8:53 pm : link
Dotson needs to get more minutes
Lee is such an awkward fit right now, too.  
bceagle05 : 12/9/2018 8:54 pm : link
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it is absolutely laughable  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 8:57 pm : link
that people think a superstar is coming to this team, laughable
if i am KP  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:01 pm : link
i think long and hard if i really want to resign here, this team is 4 or 5 years away from doing anything...
Only down 25 to a powerhouse  
B in ALB : 12/9/2018 9:02 pm : link
title contending team. They're looking solid.

Kanter and Hardaway are poised to lead this team to a title.
RE: it is absolutely laughable  
bceagle05 : 12/9/2018 9:02 pm : link
In comment 14211887 nygiants16 said:
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that people think a superstar is coming to this team, laughable

I'm more concerned about throwing another $70 million at some third-tier free agent. Just keep tanking - I don't care how KP feels about it either.
RE: if i am KP  
steve in ky : 12/9/2018 9:03 pm : link
In comment 14211898 nygiants16 said:
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i think long and hard if i really want to resign here, this team is 4 or 5 years away from doing anything...


How soon they compete largely depends on if they attract a quality FA and who they get in the upcoming draft.
I would feel  
Jon in NYC : 12/9/2018 9:04 pm : link
better about all this if we didnt insist on giving Kanter, Hezonja and Hardaway minutes.

Just play the 5 dudes who will compete and play defense. Stop switching the rotations and thinking you're tight with all your players. Shit is getting annoying.
RE: RE: if i am KP  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14211903 steve in ky said:
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i think long and hard if i really want to resign here, this team is 4 or 5 years away from doing anything...



How soon they compete largely depends on if they attract a quality FA and who they get in the upcoming draft.


no one is coming here
RE: RE: RE: if i am KP  
Jon in NYC : 12/9/2018 9:06 pm : link
In comment 14211910 nygiants16 said:
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i think long and hard if i really want to resign here, this team is 4 or 5 years away from doing anything...



How soon they compete largely depends on if they attract a quality FA and who they get in the upcoming draft.



no one is coming here


I mean that's obviously wrong.

They may not get Durant, Kyrie or Kemba but they'll get someone.
RE: I would feel  
steve in ky : 12/9/2018 9:07 pm : link
In comment 14211905 Jon in NYC said:
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better about all this if we didnt insist on giving Kanter, Hezonja and Hardaway minutes.

Just play the 5 dudes who will compete and play defense. Stop switching the rotations and thinking you're tight with all your players. Shit is getting annoying.


One thing he has to take into consideration. They would be in constant foul trouble with a couple of them.

Frank with back to back 3's!  
steve in ky : 12/9/2018 9:08 pm : link
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RE: RE: RE: RE: if i am KP  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:09 pm : link
In comment 14211911 Jon in NYC said:
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i think long and hard if i really want to resign here, this team is 4 or 5 years away from doing anything...



How soon they compete largely depends on if they attract a quality FA and who they get in the upcoming draft.



no one is coming here



I mean that's obviously wrong.

They may not get Durant, Kyrie or Kemba but they'll get someone.


who? going to max out middelton? anyone they sign to big money would be stupid unless itnis durant or irving...

Middleton,  
Jon in NYC : 12/9/2018 9:16 pm : link
Vucevic, Scary Terry, Rubio, Tobias Harris.

Just because they don't get a max guy doesn't mean they can't improve. Then the following year Lee and Hardaway are off the books.
I bash Clyde a lot  
bceagle05 : 12/9/2018 9:17 pm : link
but I like what he's saying about defense, or lack thereof. We have no interest whatsoever in competing on that end of the court. Every night teams have 100 points through three quarters.
Youth  
TyreeHelmet : 12/9/2018 9:18 pm : link
Have to remember how young this team is. Games Iike this will happen. Frank is going to be a good nba player though. They need to give him minutes and put the ball in his hands.

- this team could actually use Joakim Noah. He actually fits a major need and could have helped Robinson. I’d rather play him than Kanter.... That stretch made zero sense for many reasons but atleast they made a roster spot for Luke Kornet...

-Kemba is such a great player.
RE: Middleton,  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:18 pm : link
In comment 14211935 Jon in NYC said:
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Vucevic, Scary Terry, Rubio, Tobias Harris.

Just because they don't get a max guy doesn't mean they can't improve. Then the following year Lee and Hardaway are off the books.


you wont cap space, remember they will be going over the cap to sign kp to a max...

and tim has 2 more years after this year not 1 like lee
Knox with 21, Frank with 13.  
bceagle05 : 12/9/2018 9:18 pm : link
Small victories...
RE: Youth  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:19 pm : link
In comment 14211941 TyreeHelmet said:
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Have to remember how young this team is. Games Iike this will happen. Frank is going to be a good nba player though. They need to give him minutes and put the ball in his hands.

- this team could actually use Joakim Noah. He actually fits a major need and could have helped Robinson. I’d rather play him than Kanter.... That stretch made zero sense for many reasons but atleast they made a roster spot for Luke Kornet...

-Kemba is such a great player.


they stretch him because perry and mills are delusional
Frank!  
bceagle05 : 12/9/2018 9:20 pm : link
On fire!!!
frank going off  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:20 pm : link
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I think Kemba would come here in a heartbeat  
Vanzetti : 12/9/2018 9:21 pm : link
if they offer him the max but most people don't want to do that because of his age

but i think 16 is right about KD
and jon my plan  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:22 pm : link
forgo free agency, trade kanter for a bad contract to get extra picks...

resign vonleh and mudiay and kp, add this yesrs first..

just let the young kids grow together, forget this stupid dream of signing a max guy
RE: I think Kemba would come here in a heartbeat  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14211952 Vanzetti said:
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if they offer him the max but most people don't want to do that because of his age

but i think 16 is right about KD


he is only 28, i would take kemba in a second but he is not passing up the max from charlotte
RE: and jon my plan  
Jon in NYC : 12/9/2018 9:23 pm : link
In comment 14211954 nygiants16 said:
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forgo free agency, trade kanter for a bad contract to get extra picks...

resign vonleh and mudiay and kp, add this yesrs first..

just let the young kids grow together, forget this stupid dream of signing a max guy


I mean yeah, that is plan B if you don't get a max. Don't go spend dumb money on dumb players, but you're gonna have a hard time convincing me that Scary Terry at like 4 years 50 mil is a bad deal.
Sounds like Trevor Ariza is headed to the Lakers  
Anakim : 12/9/2018 9:24 pm : link
Lakers just looking for a team that will take on KCP
RE: RE: and jon my plan  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:26 pm : link
In comment 14211963 Jon in NYC said:
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forgo free agency, trade kanter for a bad contract to get extra picks...

resign vonleh and mudiay and kp, add this yesrs first..

just let the young kids grow together, forget this stupid dream of signing a max guy



I mean yeah, that is plan B if you don't get a max. Don't go spend dumb money on dumb players, but you're gonna have a hard time convincing me that Scary Terry at like 4 years 50 mil is a bad deal.


he is getting more than that, there is going to be a lot of money out there
Ronnie Baker sighting.  
bceagle05 : 12/9/2018 9:27 pm : link
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RE: RE: Middleton,  
Mike in NJ : 12/9/2018 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14211942 nygiants16 said:
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Vucevic, Scary Terry, Rubio, Tobias Harris.

Just because they don't get a max guy doesn't mean they can't improve. Then the following year Lee and Hardaway are off the books.



you wont cap space, remember they will be going over the cap to sign kp to a max...

and tim has 2 more years after this year not 1 like lee


They are only going over the cap to sign Porzingis if they add someone else this summer first. As of now, summer of 2020 the only guys they will have on the books is Ntilikina, Knox, Robinson, whoever we draft this year, Porzingis (assuming we resign him) and Hardaway on an expiring deal. They definitely will have the ability to make another run at a max in 2020 if they strike out this year.
RE: RE: RE: Middleton,  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:30 pm : link
In comment 14211983 Mike in NJ said:
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Vucevic, Scary Terry, Rubio, Tobias Harris.

Just because they don't get a max guy doesn't mean they can't improve. Then the following year Lee and Hardaway are off the books.



you wont cap space, remember they will be going over the cap to sign kp to a max...

and tim has 2 more years after this year not 1 like lee



They are only going over the cap to sign Porzingis if they add someone else this summer first. As of now, summer of 2020 the only guys they will have on the books is Ntilikina, Knox, Robinson, whoever we draft this year, Porzingis (assuming we resign him) and Hardaway on an expiring deal. They definitely will have the ability to make another run at a max in 2020 if they strike out this year.


in jon's scenario you would be signing someone
that charge on frank  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:31 pm : link
was an absolute joke
for the love of god just play the young guys  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:39 pm : link
kanter and hezonja are useless and play zero defense...
A couple of weeks the trade rumors are going to start  
Earl the goat : 12/9/2018 9:40 pm : link
Looks like Millsap is out for the year
He’s got a 30 million dollar team option for next year
Denver has been playing great and needs to replace his production
So just some ideas
Kanter and Lee for Millsap and Porter ???

Hardaway and Baker for Ryan Anderson and Bridges ???

In either case there will be trades coming for Knicks prior to deadline

i am going to guess  
nygiants16 : 12/9/2018 9:45 pm : link
Knox starts the next game?
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