With the Cowboys win over the Eagles, the Giants have been eliminated from NFC East contention. But they are still alive in the wild card race. Here is what they need to have happen:
1. Beat TEN, @IND, DAL
2. PHI/WAS Week 17 winner need to lose TWO, while the loser needs to lose ONE. That game is in Washington. In their other two games, WAS plays @JAX and @TEN, while PHI plays @LAR and HOU.
If WAS AND PHI both finish ahead of NYG, the Giants are eliminated. If only one finishes ahead of NYG, NYG needs ALL of the following to occur. If NYG finish ahead of both PHI and WAS, NYG needs THREE of the following to occur:
I. SEA loses ALL from MIN, @ SF, KC, ARI
II. CAR loses TWO from NO, ATL, @NO
III. TB loses ONE from @BAL, @DAL, ATL AND DET loses ONE from @BUF, MIN, @GB**
IV. To satisfy this roman numeral, NYG needs TWO of the following to occur
a. GB loses ONE from @CHI, @NYJ, DET
b. MIN loses THREE from @SEA, MIA, @DET, CHI
c. CHI loses ALL from LAR, GB, @SF, @MIN*
*NYG will only be able to catch CHI if SEA, CAR, PHI, and WAS all don't finish exactly 8-8 as NYG wins head-to-head tiebreaker with CHI but loses three-way ties involving CHI and SEA/CAR/PHI/WAS
**If CHI finishes 8-8 then NYG won't need DET to lose in this scenario as CHI wins head-to-head tiebreaker over DET and NYG would win a three-way tie with CHI and TB.
DAL over PHI (Check!)
SEA over MIN (Tomorrow night!)
CAR loses 2 of 3 to NO, ATL, NO
PHI loses 2 of 3 to LAR, HOU, WAS
MIN loses 2 of 3 to MIA, DET, CHI
GB loses 1 of 3 to CHI, NYJ, DET
NYG beats TEN, IND, and DAL
Giants would travel to CHI for WC game
I'll keep watching regardless.
DAL over PHI (Check!)
SEA over MIN (Tomorrow night!)
CAR loses 2 of 3 to NO, ATL, NO
PHI loses 2 of 3 to LAR, HOU, WAS
MIN loses 2 of 3 to MIA, DET, CHI
GB loses 1 of 3 to CHI, NYJ, DET
NYG beats TEN, IND, and DAL
Giants would travel to CHI for WC game
Better than being mathematically eliminated. At 1-7, never in a million years did I think there would still be playoff scenarios going into week 15.
DAL over PHI (Check!)
SEA over MIN (Tomorrow night!)
CAR loses 2 of 3 to NO, ATL, NO
PHI loses 2 of 3 to LAR, HOU, WAS
MIN loses 2 of 3 to MIA, DET, CHI
GB loses 1 of 3 to CHI, NYJ, DET
NYG beats TEN, IND, and DAL
Giants would travel to CHI for WC game
- Why is TB loss required? If TB finished 8-8 and CAR 7-9, giants could take tiebreak over TB (assuming we move SEA ahead and drop the vikes and other teams out)
- Why is TB loss required? If TB finished 8-8 and CAR 7-9, giants could take tiebreak over TB (assuming we move SEA ahead and drop the vikes and other teams out)
I see TB loss is not required, but it still looks to me that this case is not covered.
Also is it possible that there is a DAL division win, WAS and NYG at 8-8, WAS beats TB on tiebreak head-to-head for 1st spot and then NYG beat TB on tiebreak head-to-head?
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I have to help my daughter with her science project so I'm out of the loop for now. My question is:
- Why is TB loss required? If TB finished 8-8 and CAR 7-9, giants could take tiebreak over TB (assuming we move SEA ahead and drop the vikes and other teams out)
I see TB loss is not required, but it still looks to me that this case is not covered.
Also is it possible that there is a DAL division win, WAS and NYG at 8-8, WAS beats TB on tiebreak head-to-head for 1st spot and then NYG beat TB on tiebreak head-to-head?
Thank you, Ray. A TB loss is required only if DET wins out and creates a three-way tie with DET/TB/NYG. In this case, DET "shields" TB from NYG. DET didn't play TB or NYG, so head-to-head is not applicable. TB would then make it over NYG and DET by having a better conference record.
If we also didn't lose on fucking 63 yard FLUKE we would be IN the playoffs with a Minny loss tomorrow. Fucking sad
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In comment 14212047 ray in arlington said:
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I have to help my daughter with her science project so I'm out of the loop for now. My question is:
- Why is TB loss required? If TB finished 8-8 and CAR 7-9, giants could take tiebreak over TB (assuming we move SEA ahead and drop the vikes and other teams out)
I see TB loss is not required, but it still looks to me that this case is not covered.
Also is it possible that there is a DAL division win, WAS and NYG at 8-8, WAS beats TB on tiebreak head-to-head for 1st spot and then NYG beat TB on tiebreak head-to-head?
Thank you, Ray. A TB loss is required only if DET wins out and creates a three-way tie with DET/TB/NYG. In this case, DET "shields" TB from NYG. DET didn't play TB or NYG, so head-to-head is not applicable. TB would then make it over NYG and DET by having a better conference record.
So that item should be TB loss OR Det loss, right?
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In comment 14212051 ray in arlington said:
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In comment 14212047 ray in arlington said:
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I have to help my daughter with her science project so I'm out of the loop for now. My question is:
- Why is TB loss required? If TB finished 8-8 and CAR 7-9, giants could take tiebreak over TB (assuming we move SEA ahead and drop the vikes and other teams out)
I see TB loss is not required, but it still looks to me that this case is not covered.
Also is it possible that there is a DAL division win, WAS and NYG at 8-8, WAS beats TB on tiebreak head-to-head for 1st spot and then NYG beat TB on tiebreak head-to-head?
Thank you, Ray. A TB loss is required only if DET wins out and creates a three-way tie with DET/TB/NYG. In this case, DET "shields" TB from NYG. DET didn't play TB or NYG, so head-to-head is not applicable. TB would then make it over NYG and DET by having a better conference record.
So that item should be TB loss OR Det loss, right?
Yes that's right. Should be "OR" instead of "AND" as NYG would win a two-way tie over DET on common opponents. Thanks for pointing that out.
CHI wins 1 game.
DET loses 1 game
SEA wins 1 game.
WAS and PHI both finish worse than 8-8.
Then Giants need:
3 MIN losses (if SEA beats MIN, only need 2 more MIN losses)
2 CAR losses
1 GB loss