Shumur on Lauletta...ouch

was that he always kept abreast of what the press was saying about him and paid too much attention to it. If that's true and he doesn't kick that habit ASAP, he'll have trouble in New York.

That said, I did chuckle at that comment.

it Shurmur that wanted him in the draft?

I like Shurmur but I've been surprised at some of his childish behavior in the media for such an "adult".

Lauletta is a SCRUB who had already shown his ass as a rookie. He has no equity on this team and he's owed nothing.

There is a reason why it took a 40 point lead to get him some time.

And it reinforces the point that Shurmur, on his second coaching job, still hasn't learned how to handle outside criticism.

good at hiding his disdain for our beat. That being said the current beat is historically awful and obviously a frustrating experience to deal with an occupation that has a built in excuse to suck at their job.

The grass isn't always greener.

Although a lot of fans and media-members fail to notice that.

Manning won his 2019 job today.

In comment 14212063 B in ALB said:

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Lauletta is a SCRUB who had already shown his ass as a rookie. He has no equity on this team and he's owed nothing. There is a reason why it took a 40 point lead to get him some time.

It's his player. He's the QB guru. He certainly had input on the draft choice. This passive aggressive nonsense has no place. It's the same sort of shit McAdoo might do. "Hope you got what you wanted" is childish bush league crap.

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You wouldn't know it being that since the arrest, they made Lauletta the #2 QB and gave him more responsibility.

In comment 14212067 Sy'56 said:

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The grass isn't always greener. Although a lot of fans and media-members fail to notice that. Manning won his 2019 job today.

True that Manning won his 2019 job today
It would also be nice if he took a big pay cut so they can sign an offensive lineman to protect his old aging slow body

In comment 14212068 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 14212063 B in ALB said: Quote: Lauletta is a SCRUB who had already shown his ass as a rookie. He has no equity on this team and he's owed nothing. There is a reason why it took a 40 point lead to get him some time. It's his player. He's the QB guru. He certainly had input on the draft choice. This passive aggressive nonsense has no place. It's the same sort of shit McAdoo might do. "Hope you got what you wanted" is childish bush league crap.

He owes Lauletta nothing and is likely blowing off steam because Kyle sucks and the media has been harping on a QB change the entire season.

Eli is the Giants QB at least thru 2019.

I think the honesty and snarky comment is fine. At this point, fuck the beat and their Bullshit attempts to craft stories.

I could care less the guy screwed up during the season and if he can't play than we will draft a QB in the first round. So we will see him on the field soon again.

he selected and he made the #2 QB is a great "told you so" play? Why does the rookie have to eat shit because the "adult" head coach gets his panties in a bunch.

Coaches should never make their own players collateral damage because they can't handle the media.

In fact, he’s a complete jerk off. What a completely unnecessary thing to say about your rookie QB.

Hey Pat. Last time I checked you were the HC. And it’s YOUR responsibility to get players ready to play. And you’re a supposed QB guru.

Lauletta’s performance is just as much a reflection of Shurmur as it on Lauletta.

I like absolutely nothing about this guy. His nickname is supposedly “snake”...to me, for snake in the grass.

Jerk off.

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he selected and he made the #2 QB is a great "told you so" play? Why does the rookie have to eat shit because the "adult" head coach gets his panties in a bunch. Coaches should never make their own players collateral damage because they can't handle the media.

Obviously you hate Shurmur and have an agenda cause you keep attacking him over and over gain cause you don't like how he handles the geniuses in the local media. He is not going anywhere so deal with it.

Essentially, he said that the kid came in at a hand off and play action point in the game and that it's unfair to evaluate him based upon that. He did say he'd have preferred that Lauletta didn't throw the INT, but that was a reasonable comment IMO. The line that Matt referenced was a throw away joke that Shurmur said at the end of his comments on Lauletta, with a smile on his face. He was clearly kidding with the writers, not saying something intentionally disparaging regarding Lauletta.

Just get his name right

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And it reinforces the point that Shurmur, on his second coaching job, still hasn't learned how to handle outside criticism.

Or maybe is shows how fucking stupid the people who keep calling for Eli to be benched for a guy like Lauletta or Webb last year. It also reinforces that he speaks his mind. And if that comment wasn’t bad at all. If you are over 12 and every has a real job

Oh the horror. So now after torally shitting the bed he should lie and say how pleased he was and how he will soon he the next great NYC QB?

And lastly no one here knows how much input Shurmur had on that of any other pick.

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In fact, he’s a complete jerk off. What a completely unnecessary thing to say about your rookie QB. Hey Pat. Last time I checked you were the HC. And it’s YOUR responsibility to get players ready to play. And you’re a supposed QB guru. Lauletta’s performance is just as much a reflection of Shurmur as it on Lauletta. I like absolutely nothing about this guy. His nickname is supposedly “snake”...to me, for snake in the grass. Jerk off.

I see another of the knucklehead head crew who wants Shurmur fired cause he is a meanie. He is not going anywhere since he turned the team around so you have to deal with it too or go root for another team.

We'll see more of Laudetta. The tone of Schumur's remarks about him, though, do not bode well for his future with the team.

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good at hiding his disdain for our beat. That being said the current beat is historically awful and obviously a frustrating experience to deal with an occupation that has a built in excuse to suck at their job.

Shurmur needs to give up that battle. He will not beat the beat until he has a trophy.

The love and devotion for a scrub qb is surprising.

Meant Lauletta,.

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I see another of the knucklehead head crew who wants Shurmur fired cause he is a meanie. He is not going anywhere since he turned the team around so you have to deal with it too or go root for another team.

Good one.

Remind me if Belichick has ever said anything like this.

And when Parcells would take a shot at a player - like when he called Terry Glenn “she” - at least he had the stature and stripes to do the it.

Shurmur is in no position to have an act. Especially an act where he thinks he’s got some kind of coaching gravitas.

This will give him a shot to make the team next year.

You're taking this totally out of context.

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Manning won his 2019 job today.

Why? Because we beat a decimated team “led” by Mark Sanchez?

Using this game as some important benchmark for next year is beyond bizarre.

He could be implying that he wasn’t ready and thanks to them he was forced by the owners to Play him before he was ready.

Worst of all time. I cannot even begin to imagine what the press conferences would have been like had these jokers been on the beat during the Parcells years.

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In comment 14212064 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: And it reinforces the point that Shurmur, on his second coaching job, still hasn't learned how to handle outside criticism. Or maybe is shows how fucking stupid the people who keep calling for Eli to be benched for a guy like Lauletta or Webb last year. It also reinforces that he speaks his mind. And if that comment wasn’t bad at all. If you are over 12 and every has a real job Oh the horror. So now after torally shitting the bed he should lie and say how pleased he was and how he will soon he the next great NYC QB? And lastly no one here knows how much input Shurmur had on that of any other pick.

Oh please. "Speaks his mind".Because it's so well received when other people associated with this team speak their mind.

No, he doesn't have to say how pleased he was. It's literally his job to protect his own players. Not to act like a knucklehead fan on a message board. Whatever criticism he has for Lauletta should happen in the locker room. Maybe Shurmur should take a class from Eli on how to handle questions, because I know how he would've handled it. Certainly better than this.

Even if I don’t thinking’s Lauletta has one. He basically said what all of us saw: he’s not ready now. I’m sure Shurmur already knew that because of a years worth of practice, but all the geniuses in the fan base and the media thought being thrown into a game would be the difference.

It’s also ironic to say Shumur hasn’t earned the right. Like Lauletta has earned the right for significant playing time?

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In comment 14212067 Sy'56 said: Quote: Manning won his 2019 job today. Why? Because we beat a decimated team “led” by Mark Sanchez? Using this game as some important benchmark for next year is beyond bizarre.

I didn't realize Sanchez played defense. What the fuck does Sanchez have to do with Eli's performance

Why should I be surprised that bw is taking another pointless shot at Eli and the Giants? Tell me, did your Redskins raise the bar again today?

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In comment 14212064 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: And it reinforces the point that Shurmur, on his second coaching job, still hasn't learned how to handle outside criticism. Or maybe is shows how fucking stupid the people who keep calling for Eli to be benched for a guy like Lauletta or Webb last year. It also reinforces that he speaks his mind. And if that comment wasn’t bad at all. If you are over 12 and every has a real job Oh the horror. So now after torally shitting the bed he should lie and say how pleased he was and how he will soon he the next great NYC QB? And lastly no one here knows how much input Shurmur had on that of any other pick.

Yep.

I’d be willing to bet the same people critical of Shurmur’s comments are the same ones who wanted a healthy dose of Lauletta and Webb when the team was losing.

Lauletta gets shoved up their ass and they have to find something to double down on.

especially about his assessment of Lauletta and his potential. Shurmur imo more likely commenting on the constant chatter about whether Lauletta would see the field.

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I didn't realize Sanchez played defense. What the fuck does Sanchez have to do with Eli's performance Why should I be surprised that bw is taking another pointless shot at Eli and the Giants? Tell me, did your Redskins raise the bar again today?

Where am I taking a shot at Eli?

I’m merely pointing out we beat a team that is very bad right now. And we shouldn’t use it as significant benchmark for the season.

As far as beating the Skins today who are decimated with injuries good for the GMEN. Their are no apologies in the NFL. The Giants are currently a team trying to learn how to win games and build a winning culture in the locker room. Enough said.
Next week is a big test for them against the Titans.

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The grass isn't always greener. Although a lot of fans and media-members fail to notice that. Manning won his 2019 job today.

Good. Then we'll be right back here next year when this team stinks, and we wonder why - again - we can't get a damn QB to win some games. Beating Mullens, Fitzpatrick, Daniel, and Sanchez should do nothing to win anyone a job.

the media about a 4th round project who has the same odds of being another Tom Brady as all the other Tom Bradys we’ve seen during the past 20 years.

And he considers it incredibly insulting personally ... as though some news reporter knows better than he does about his decision to cast his own future on Eli Manning.

to prove a point.

Watch the actual press conference. I don't think Shurmur was taking a dig at Lauletta, I just think he was addressing the idea that the media was thirsting to see Lauletta play, and he was like, "So you finally got a look." He could have phrased it better so it didn't seem like a diss, but his tone and the off-hand way he said it didn't seem to imply any nasty critique to me.

I know it's easy to poke holes at a struggling coach, but if Shurmur really was as petty with the players as some try to make him out to be, then why is this locker room still pulling together under him? You'd think we'd know the difference after what we saw in 2017.

Somehow the coach has the Giants playing winning football. It is time to wait and see if he can keep it going.

rather than quoting one sentence.
https://www.giants.com/video/pat-shurmur-recaps-giants-win-over-washington - ( New Window )

Shurmur is right. Shurmur was basically saying "Now you can shut the heck up and let me coach the team, thanks!"

Media hasn't shut up about Lauletta for weeks, it's gotta be irritating to constantly field the questions. If you listen to Boomer and Gio on WFAN, every morning for the last 8 weeks Gio has said "Oh my god, why haven't they played Lauletta yet!!!"

You would think they might of gotten the clue that

a. he's simply not prepared/ready
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b. he isn't impressing coaching staff, maybe expect him to be a bust

..by the fact that he wasn't even active when media was clamoring for him.

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Essentially, he said that the kid came in at a hand off and play action point in the game and that it's unfair to evaluate him based upon that. He did say he'd have preferred that Lauletta didn't throw the INT, but that was a reasonable comment IMO. The line that Matt referenced was a throw away joke that Shurmur said at the end of his comments on Lauletta, with a smile on his face. He was clearly kidding with the writers, not saying something intentionally disparaging regarding Lauletta.

This. And Sheppard didn’t come back to the ball. That pick wasn’t all on lauletta

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In comment 14212067 Sy'56 said: Quote: The grass isn't always greener. Although a lot of fans and media-members fail to notice that. Manning won his 2019 job today. True that Manning won his 2019 job today It would also be nice if he took a big pay cut so they can sign an offensive lineman to protect his old aging slow body

You don't want him to take a paycut. In the NFL that basically comes from a reztructure, which will rdsult in a salary reduction, but convert it to guaranteed money. The good part is that gets amortuzed. The bad news is that means the contract is essentially extended. We don't want that in this case. If Manning is on the team, he will be playing out his final year on his existing contract.

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In comment 14212067 Sy'56 said: Quote: The grass isn't always greener. Although a lot of fans and media-members fail to notice that. Manning won his 2019 job today. Good. Then we'll be right back here next year when this team stinks, and we wonder why - again - we can't get a damn QB to win some games. Beating Mullens, Fitzpatrick, Daniel, and Sanchez should do nothing to win anyone a job.

Did any of those people you mentioned play defense? Has anyone else put up 40 points in 3 quarters against Washington? The Bear's defense just held the mighty rams to 6 point, none in the second half. Eli put up 30 against them.

They only took a QB for show and a chance especially in the 4th round

And how does anybody here know if Shurmur had input ......let me tell you Parcells didn’t have much input that’s why he said I need to shop for the groceries

And Like Sy said Eli won his 2019 job yesterday ...... I wouldn’t be surprised if Shurmur asks the Giants to draft his son next year ......

I especially like the comment that Blames Shurmur for KL's crappy play.

Hopefully the coach doesn't get as upset with folks misspelling his name....

NFL world was calling for Eli to be benched and to see what Lauletta has. Lauletta has a less than one percent chance of being the guy after this. Imagine putting him to a game from the jump? How about we start him against Dallas week 17 if the game means something to Dallas to see what he has?

He would be a blue white streak on the turf and benched or hurt after his third pick/fumble.

It was asinine to call for him when he is not the guy now and likely never will be.

Also, agree Eli is coming back next year and frankly I am for it. Make a fucking run at it, the team is getting better.

Also, to hell with the media, if you win you can say whatever you want, it is very simple and I ignore all things about what a coach says to these journalists, I use the term loosely, who are looking to destroy if needed to get attention. I understand it is their job, but if the Giants win Shurmur can go up there and sing karaoke and no one will care. If they lose he can be the most candid and diplomatic and he will be run out of town. Sports are simple like that.

Lauletta looked horrible, should a long term conclusion be drawn from that alone, no. But, he is not the messiah who must be seen and worth benching Eli for. Particularly when Shurmur needs to win for his own job. He knows who gives him the best chance.